Playing the Devil's Advocate

ER is iconic because he put paid to the lie that women want men who are rich. Plus it helps that he documented his life and didn’t have the “hurr durr” Chad Thundercock lack of vocabulary (women want intelligent men, amirite?).

It turns out that women want men rich enough to keep spending on them BUT not talk about a return on investment …
and intelligent enough to show off to their friends BUT not to win arguments against her.

With the quick way they’ve wiped off his “Day of Retribution” video (I managed to save it, whew), Youtube and Google are now creating the culture that is mentioned in Warhammer 40,000, http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Edict_of_Obliteration
An Edict of Obliteration, also known as a Damnatio Memoriae, a High Gothic phrase meaning “condemnation of memory,” is the policy of the deliberate destruction of icons and other symbols or monuments pertaining to an individual, usually of the Imperial elite, who has been declared Excommunicate Traitoris by the Emperor of Mankind (before he was interred within the Golden Throne), the High Lords of Terra or the Inquisition. An Edict of Obliteration is a frequent component of major political or religious changes within the Imperium. The term encompasses the more specific destruction of images of a member of the Imperial elite after his death or overthrow. The result of an Edict of Obliteration is to have the offending individual effectively erased from Imperial history.

The purpose of an Edict of Obliteration is to preserve the honour of the Emperor by removing every trace of the person from the life of the Imperium, as if he or she had never existed. In a galaxy-spanning empire that stresses fealty and loyalty to the Emperor in return for advancement, acclaim and spiritual salvation for its elites, this is perhaps one of the most severe punishments. This is especially true for those Imperial Adepta that directly serve the Emperor, such as the Ecclesiarchy, the Inquisition, and the members of the Imperial military forces like the Space Marines and the Imperial Guard.

Where in this case, substitute “Feminism” for “Emperor”.

I will leave this here.

Do you want a rebuttal from me P Ray, I don’t think you understand autism/aspergers, as your post shows its very true that woman often make the first move but men have to be able to spot and read the body language, someone like ER could never see flirting or hints of sexual interest, thats why he’s never getting any

thats the key point about autism they always miss a large % of human interaction

So IMO ER isn’t a true incel, his main failure with women is because of his autism

Helpful reminder of the sequence that Elliot probably went through approaching for a date:
As Deme said “You won’t find the story I’m going to tell you in the history books. That makes you disbelieve my words. But remember: Not everything that is written down is true, and not everything true is written.”

1.He approaches while man-breathing air that I, as a woman, could have breathed. This is a major Ooof if ever there was one.

2.He man-speaks with his man-mouth to assault my ears with with his sonic phallus and I am reminded that according to the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics that there is probably a parallel universe where he is raping me right now. This is very threatening and a complete yikes.

3.After non-consensually man-existing long enough for me to reject him he leaves and for a moment I feel a sense of relief, but then I cry and cry and cry. I know he is out there making other women go through the same horrible ordeal I did and this is a 100% unadulterated I can’t even.

This is a good quote, reminds me of the saying: “A banker is a fellow who lends you his umbrella when the sun is shining, but wants it back the minute it begins to rain.”–Mark Twain.
In the same vein, a lot of people give advice about “how to make a better personailty” but forget that other people have to accept your better personality – it is a two way street.

And here’s the comment:
TLDR for this post: “just work on your social skills” is virtually meaningless and is relevant for at most 2% of the population. Read on for detailed analysis as to why.

From tons of anecdotal evidence, it seems like women want men to have some of these 4 traits:

– Be in the top 10% of height (i.e. 6 feet or taller)
– Be in the top 10% of wealth (i.e. roughly 1 million dollars or more in total wealth and/or annual income exceeding $120k or so – but Stacies prefer the former over the latter, which is why I’m hopeless)
– Be in the top 20% of looks (this is shooting upwards as time goes on and as hypergamy becomes more widespread)
– Be in the top 20% of social skills (“social skills” can be helpful but only if you’re born incredibly good at them or you work on them to the extent that you are better at them than most other men – ie top comedians, etc)

To simplify things, let’s assume all of these traits have no correlation (i.e. men who are above 6 feet aren’t more likely to be wealthy, good looking people aren’t more likely to have good social skills). This is an oversimplification – there are studies showing taller men make more $, but let’s just pretend that isn’t true to make the math easier.

Men who have all 4 of the above traits make up 0.1*0.1*0.2*0.2 = 0.04% of the population, or 1 in 2500 men. These men are the “Slayers”. Stacies would murder their own blood relatives to get a chance to be on their cock.

Men who have 3 of the above 4 traits make up 2*(0.1*0.2*0.1 + 0.2*0.1*0.2) = 1.2% of the population. These men are “Chads”. Stacies will fuck them on the first date, no questions asked, will just get on their knees and suck their dick.

Men who have only 2 of each of the above 4 traits are Chad-lites. They make up (0.1*0.2)*2+(0.1*0.1)+(0.2*0.2) – (the 1.2% who are chads)=~8% of the population. Stacies will fuck them, but they’ll at least wait until the second or third date to maintain some small semblance of propriety. Let me go into a bit of detail on Chadlites.

Remember when Aziz Ansari got in trouble for making moves on a Stacy that he was on a date with? His mistake was that he’s only a Chadlite, but he was going for first date sex like a Chad. Think about it: Aziz clearly has only 2 of the 4 traits: wealth (from being a successful comedian) and social skills (he’s clearly comfortable talking to people as a comedian, and he hangs out with lots of celebrity friends). He obviously doesn’t have height or looks. So he’s a mere Chadlite – the Stacy was pissed that he was going for first date sex like a Chad. In her mind Aziz didn’t have the status for that as a mere Chadlite. In her mind, a Chadlite would have to wine and dine her for 2 or 3 dates before she slept with him, whereas if Aziz was a true Chad (i.e. if he was over 6 feet or if he didn’t have a goblin face) she absolutely would’ve been all over his dick on date number 1.

You have different types of Chadlites too – the looksonly Chadlite (i.e. top 10% height + top 20% looks) who ends up divorced multiple times from Stacies who only wanted him for the tingles and got upset with his lack of income potential later, the smalltime Romeo Chadlite (top 20% social skills + either height or looks) who is usually some small town gym teacher or something who all the single moms want to fuck and who cheats on his wife with them, or the Silicon Valley entrepreneur / Wall Street Chadlite (learned top 20% social skills from the networking with investors, plus top 10% wealth).

This last type, the Silicon Valley / Wall Street Chadlite, is the only type who benefits from working on their social skills. If you have a wealthy normie who is making good money, and he works on his social skills, then he can ascend from normie to Chadlite. That’s pretty much the only people who benefit from working on their social skills. For other people it totally isn’t relevant:
People who already have 2 out of 4 traits without social skills are already Chadlites, and often aren’t interested in putting in the work to ascend to true Chad-dom (they can already have sex once a month or every other month with a different Stacy if they want, they don’t care to get to a level of having sex with a new Stacy every week and may be into other interests at that point). That said, the small percentage of people who are already Chadlite but are missing the social skills aspect are the ones who PUA companies tout as “huge success stories” when in reality, those people were doing decently with women as Chadlites even before PUA.
A normie who has only height or looks can move into Chadlite territory by working on his social skills – but let’s not forget that normie already had height or looks! So saying “just work on your social skills” is irrelevant unless you had the height or looks in the first place – which only confirms the blackpill!
That leaves only the normies with wealth and nothing else – no looks or height. For a normie like that who has top 10% wealth but no looks or social skills, yes, working on his social skills can make him go from a normie to a Chadlite – especially if that normie decides to run “big city moneybags game” and leaves his expensive area to look for easy pussy in economically depressed parts of the country. When guys like this learn some social skills, they run an evolved UberBetaBuxx game – they start to build up a small rotation of Stacies they fuck regularly, and sometimes they even have the Stacies sign contracts promising that they’re on birth control so they don’t have to be responsible for kids, etc. It’s like a BetaBuxx game w/ less betaness because they’re learning the social skills to sleep around with multiple Stacies.
In other words, for all intensive purposes, working on your social skills is only relevant if you ALREADY have top 10% wealth and DON’T have looks or height. Then it’s worth working on your social skills to make the giant leap from normie to Chadlite.

As for men who have only one of the 4 traits (height, looks, wealth, or social skills), they are your average cucked husband. Stacy finds these guys attractive enough to sleep with only after a month or so of dating.

For the normies with only wealth, they end up betabuxxing.
The normies with only looks or height end up marrying their high school sweetheart who cucks him with Tyrone or Chaddam or Chang or Chadpreet as soon as he gets a beer belly or puts on a little bit too much weight (because she “needs excitement and to feel sexy”). In the case of Chang or Chaddam or Chadpreet, there’s a decent chance he runs big city moneybags game on her (I’ve seen corporate tech job Stacies talking about this more than you might think – secretary Stacy who married her high school sweetheart starts sugaring on the side for a wealthy Chang/Chaddam/Chadpreet she met at some bullshit tech conference in order to have some “excitement” and to experience “the life she deserves”).
The normie with only social skills gets cucked the worst – he usually ends up with Stacies who are bipolar or have other mental issues, and she cheats on him mere weeks after meeting him. The worst mentally unstable cock carousel Stacies go for the social skills only normies – and it makes sense. The Stacy who goes for Mr. Betabuxx is making a sane, exceedingly logical and rational (though incredibly cold hearted decision). The Stacy who goes for Mr. Looks or Mr. Height is responding to her biological impulses, which are their own form of fucked up rationality. But the Stacy who goes for social skills is going for neither, and is making a decision based on a completely irrational, unnatural form of status. How fucked up must that Stacy be?
Men who have only one of the 4 traits and are normies make up (0.1+0.2+0.1+0.2)-(the 9% that are Chads or Chadlites)=roughly 51% of the general population. They end up living typical cucked normie lives.

The remaining 40% of the population is incel. Many of them don’t know they are incels but they are. They think they are normies. They think they just haven’t “found the right girl”. Or that they just need to “work on their social skills”. They delude themselves into believing that when they work on their social skills, they will ascend to Chadlitedom (they’re not so crazy as to think they can become Chad). But the reality is, even after working their ass off on social skills, they just end up a cucked normie at best. I can already see IncelTears types saying “a-ha! but what if you get wealthy and get good social skills. then you can ascend to chadlite-dom. silly inkwell, don’t you see there is a way?”

To which the obvious response is, “Borderline delusional inceltears soyboy, do you not realize how hard it is for an average person to build wealth in the current economy? It takes years of dedicated focused study to get a high paying white collar job, and even then, it takes a roughly above average intelligence which many people don’t have. Even if they do have the intelligence, many people in this country don’t have the opportunities to pursue the education needed for these jobs. You expect someone to do all of that, AND work on their social skills, which can be incredibly hard to develop, particularly for people with certain social anxieties and mental health challenges? Forget what I said about borderline delusional, you are completely off the deep end if you think everyone can just up and accomplish that in a year or so.”

When someone tells an incel to work on their social skills, they’re telling him to work his ass off, facing rejection and social humiliation, all so that he can become an average cucked normie. You would think that no sane incel would be willing to take that proposition…

But it’s shocking to me how many do, working their asses off to get just wealthy enough to betabux or just socially skilled enough to date the most awful unstable Stacies.

When I swallowed the blackpill, at least I recognized these truths.
Spread the blackpill. 40% of the country is incel, but so many of them don’t know it yet.

Remember, MIT economist Peter Temin has said “Escaping Poverty Requires Almost 20 Years With Nearly Nothing Going Wrong.”