Yellow Fever in Comouter Science/STEM
Yellow Fever in Comouter Science/STEM
I have noticed that in STEM fields, especially computer science, there is a hugely disproportionate amount of yellow fever. Sorry if this is anecdotal
For example, my dad is an electrical engineer. My hapa friend's dad is an astronomer. Another hapa friend's dad is a software engineer. Another one is a chemical engineer. I dont know a single hapa's dad who isn't in STEM.
At my university, there are two white guys in the computer science department who have told me about how they want to marry Asian women, period.
I think this can be attributed to the social ineptitude and general sexual undesirability of a lot of the white engineering-type men. This causes them to turn towards fetishizing the Asian women who have low standards for these men. In addition, I think it's likely that being in a well-paid field attracts Asian women better than it would a woman from a different race.
Has anyone had similar experiences? Any alternate explanations?
(Sorry if the formatting is wrong--I'm on my phone)
I can attest to that. Im an AF and it was always in the STEM classes the the creepiest white guy would harrass me.
In one of my classes, this balding nerdy white guy would always wait for me to find a seat, then he would immediatedialy take a seat next to me. He did this everyday - waited for me to arrive to class, then when I sat down he finally took a seat...and it was always next to me. During class he would proceed to check me out. Glancing my body up and down. It was sooo uncomfortable. I started wearing pants and long coats in hot weather, but that didn't stop him from staring at me with this creepy smile the entire time during class. I tried moving seats as the lecture started,but after a few minutes, he got up and came to sit near me. Ugh, he was soo creepy. I found out his name one day and googled him I found his facebook, and surprise surprise .....he was a married man to a Vietnamese women.
Another time in chemistry class, there was anther creepy white guy. Only I didnt know he has yellow fever at first. it was the first day of class so i didnt know anyone. As we came to take our seats, a normal seeming white guy sat next to me. Whoever we sat next to ended being our lab partners. He became soo disgusting after getting to work with him. In one lab project, I was sitting down, very careful doing some chemistry experiment. So I couldnt move much. He then stood up and then had his crotch near the side of my face. I couldnt move because I was holding something in place. When i was done, I glanced my eyes over to the side (as his crotch was still there) and saw he had a huge boner. I stood up and saw he had a creepy smile on his face. Disgusting. And surprise surprise....I later find out he has a Thai girlfiend he is planning to marry soon.
I wonder if all the GF and wives of these creepy Yellow fever men know they are replaceable with any other desparate white whoreshipping AF.
Ive had so many of these experiences I just cant find myself attracted to white guys without being reminded of these disgusting experiences.
I wonder if all the GF and wives of these creepy Yellow fever men know they are replaceable with any other desparate white whoreshipping AF.
They're probably very aware. However they aren't gonna say anything.
Do you ever go to an Asian restaurant and get seated next to / in the sight of a WMAF couple and end up getting gawked at by the man the whole time you're eating? It's the worst. Hell, sometimes they even have their children with them. I can't even eat sometimes, because I get grossed out at the idea of the white guy getting aroused over how I slurp noodles.
Those Asian women with White men are aware that White men sees them as easily disposable women.I mean I had White men staring at me,checking me out in front of their Asian girlfriends for the 10th time in America. If I have no self respect, I would just hado easily throw myself at those White men like their Asian girlfriends.
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You realize if these guys weren't into asian women they'd be doing the same shit to other girls right? This isn't because they had yellow fever it's because they are guys and many guys are pervy and it makes them stupid. I don't blame you for being disgusted though, that last guy is fucked up you should have slapped him. I'm getting sick just reading your comment.
However I hate how it's awful to stereotype asian women but its perfectly fine to stereotype all men who happen to be attracted to Asian beauty the same way. It's incredible hypocrisy. I'm dating an Asian women right now and I can promise you she's not replaceable and I don't see her as just another asian women I see her and know her as an individual and I love her for that. I certainly wouldn't want to be around let alone date an Asian women like you who just assumes I'm some creepy dude because I happened to have dated asian women before and because you've had some bad experiences with guys who look similiar to me on the past.
Then you stereotype all asian women who date white men as desperate and white worshiping. The hypocrisy is unbelievable. My GF's previous boyfriend was asian BTW.
For the record don't date white guys fine whatever but don't assume we are all freaking the same. I want to be looked at as an indivudal just as much as you do.
Not an AF, but man, it's bad enough when they do that alone, but even worse when the guy is already dating or married to an AF. They should just be satisfied they're with an AF already -- no need to continue being creepy.
Out of curiosity, did either of these guys also shows signs of being white supremacists or seem like they were alt-rightish?
Yep. Asian women are the ideal women for men with low confidence in their sexual ability, too. Whether it be having a small dick, inability to maintain an erection, poor stamina, general sexual awkwardness or whatever. These guys feel that white women will judge them for this, but because Asian women are automatically inferior, these Asian women will hold nothing against these guys for these problems...since, you know, they're WHITE
It's like, this issue is occasionally mentioned here, but honestly, I think it is far more of a driving force than people think
Also, sexual orientation confusion, seems to be a reason for some to seek out Asian women.
https://www.villagevoice.com/2010/05/05/whats-with-closeted-gay-men-and-asian-women/
Are you saying that all men who go for asian women have low confidence and all of the things you listed or are you saying just some?
Guys in CS like computers. Guys on computers all the time watches a lot of anime and porn. these guys end up liking young looking asian girls because of it.
yeah most cs people have an obsession with japan/asia. It's also probably cause so many video games are from there and what cs major has never played games growing up.
I married an engineer but he dated multiple races before me. We were more compatible as far as equal education levels and personalities. I don't think me being half Asian had anything to do with it. His coworkers married within their race mostly.
A lot of AFs say this same thing: "I've dated plenty of AMs" or other races.
In the case of your husband, he dated other races before you — were they desirable, though? One of the main bases for the ideas discussed here is that a number of WMs who date/marry AFs do so to avoid dealing with what they felt was rejection from other races (usually WFs).
The IT, CS, CE, and maybe EE majors also have tons of weaboos and channers, and I'm sure that contributes a lot.
True, you don't see 'Chads' like NFL quarterbacks with yellow fever.
I've noticed this as well. Saw it all the time at the university I went to.
Has it occurred to you people that Asian females are often highly educated, intelligent and funny? To male geeks, they are the perfect match.
If you're an Asian girl (or any girl) who majors in STEM at university, you're gonna be attracting a lot of male geek attention.
Funny? Lol, you're funny. No, I've never heard of Asian girls having a sense of humor. They are more boring robots. And the only humor comes from how robotic they are.
I see a lot of stem majors date within their race over here. Albeit, I can't hate anyone's taste but okay looking white nerdy girls are definitely eating it up.
Sadly doesn't work both ways...
I think I know maybe one guy not sure if he had yellow fever. He was from cali and he had a cs degree and was married to a asian woman. I'm a CS major as well but a lot of the guys at my university are students from India or other asian ethicities taking these stem courses so I never really encountered guys like that at my school.
Why do people think the only reason a white man would go for an Asian women is because he can't get other women? I find that offensive to Asian women as if they aren't beautiful in their own way and have to resort to dating other women's rejects.....that's basically assuming that everyone has the same taste which couldn't be further from the truth. Also what explains the fact that nerdy white men normally go for Asian women is the fact that people with similar IQ's normally end up together. Nerdy white men normally have high IQ's and normally Asian women do too.
It's amazing how the more we scrutinize stereotyping as a soceity the more we make in the process.
So how would you describe the average white man in the US? Since you're white yourself, I'd expect the answer to be unbiased. /s
White american males are fat too hon 😙, so it's only fitting that white american females would be as well. If anything, I think males are proportionally fatter as females (even rural white Americans) are much more likely to diet and pay more attention to calorie intake, yet few people mention males when talking about 'landwhales' - the irony. But even so, there are still plenty of fit white American women - my cousin snagged one. Hell, California is the world leader of "clean eating", yoga routines, 'gluten free' and vegan up your ass and so on (poor almonds, you don't waste these precious on liters and liters of chalky almond milk...but that's another story).
Besides you know...weight can be lost. Race, on the other hand, can't be changed and your children will know it. And all of the features you characterized your white woman with, you will find in your Asian spouse (once the knot is tied for good). It's a losing game.
The superior desirability of the Asian woman over any other is something I have only witnessed expressed in your nerdy STEM group, so it's an interesting odd bit of data. As I too was enrolled in STEM before changing majors I know your type very well. There are nerdy but normal guys working in STEM, and then there's your type. Borderline autistic, low empathy, inferiority/superiority complex, into Asian girls bc they seem to accept you (also bc of weeaboosity), socially maladjusted, sometimes an autogynephile (becomes trans) or with other weird kinks. Oh, and into the singularity, cryogenics, etc etc. Basically you are a less famous, less rich Wachowski with a racial-based Tourette syndrome and, if you excuse me, these are not the genes I want to see expressed in the next generation.
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you know how sometimes hapas ended up looking more asian than white, and ended up becoming very bitter and angry about it?
Well just for background so there's this chinese hapa guy in my dorm, his white dad apparently divorced his mom when he was young, but he constantly name drops and talks about him and how great he is. anyways moving on
So he's (probs about 5'6, 145 lbs) started to talk trash about me a while back (canadian of SEA pacific islander melanesian ethnic origin, i'm about 6' 225 lbs) about how i can't really claim to be asian due to my dark skin and semi afro hair. But now recently he has escalated into passive agressive action like "bumping" into me while i'm carrying something or fake gossiping where he sits a couple of feet away, turn his back away and started chatting loudly talking trash oh so obviously about me.
It's hard because everyone on my floor is pretty much asian/chinese themselves and even my RA is also a hapa (she's nice though) still i don't know what to do. This is the first time i experienced racism from a fellow asian and i don't know what to do. please advise
Hi guys, I’m a white lady having a baby with a Japanese man. He’s picked a Japanese name that we both like and have gotten used to.
My concern is that, living in the US, is our baby fitting in with others as a kid and some day with employment, the discrimination he may face with a non-English name.
Do you guys think it’s better to go with a “English” name, or do you think having a Non-English name in the US shouldn’t be too much of a hindrance? Sorry if I’m being offensive, I truly don’t mean to be. I posted once here before and really appreciated all your honest opinions, it was really helpful and I still refer to it sometimes.
Thank you
Edit: I love this community, you guys are so nice and helpful. Thanks for letting me ask questions about your experiences.
I'm one of the rare Korean dad white mom hapas, and I grew up with a bit of a discomfort/rejection of my Korean side. Let me explain. My dad and I don't really have a close relationship, he doesn't really talk unless he has something to criticize, and he's one of those aggressive grade pushers. My mom on the other hand was a lot more talkative and kind, but she would always tell me that's how traditional Korean men are (which I guess was true to an extent, but nowadays that's changed mostly). She really didn't do this with the intent of making me reject my Korean side, that's just the explanation she thought was most accurate. Since I was pretty young with all of this going on, I kinda assumed Korean culture to be really unloving and something I didn't want to be a part of. I guess from all this plus their subsequent divorce, I've always been a little uneasy/tense around Asians (guys in particular because of my dad). And it's made me almost embarrassed to partake in anything Korean. Like I can't even practice speaking the language with my grandma when my dad is present (it's a mental roadblock that doesn't have an objectively good explanation). I think last summer over quarantine is when I took an interst in the culture. I even asked my grandma for a Korean name (which I thought was a little cringe, but I know I shouldn't feel that way). I guess I did this to fill the boredom/void of quarantine. Since then I've taken more interest in Korean culture, I've gotten over that uneasiness towards Asians, and my dad has been much nicer to me in the past year, so I guess the story ends better than it started. I was just wondering if others have had similar experiences or if I'm the odd one out. Thanks
My family is Sicillian ( mixed with west asia and North Africa ethnically. While technically that is asian, I mean eastern asia ). My father was white, Mediterranean ( possibly ), and Japanese, but he left before I was even born ( he wanted to ab0rt me ). I have other eastern asian relatives, one of which I grew up with, but we’re not the same ethnicity, and they live very far away, so there’s a disconnect. I preserve some parts of that culture and it’s important to me, but i feel very glaringly that it‘s not mine.
My mom was dating people a few months back, and at one point she was talking to a Chinese guy. For a second, I imagined this whole life where my family didn’t say my food smelt. Where I could watch movies that meant alot to me with someone and know we were both feeling the same thing. For a moment, I imagined that I wasn’t the only thing preserving my culture within myself.
Dont get me wrong, I love my families’ culture, and already we‘re very mixed ethnically. It’s just that I love all my identities, and I feel so out of place celebrating it alone. In fact, I feel like I’m embarrassing my mom or she’s ashamed. But in the end, I think my mom only goes for white looking men, and I never saw him on her phone after the first time. I’m scared to talk to her about it because again, i feel like I’m embarassing her.
Is it wrong for me to feel this way? I don’t hate my close family it’s just hard to feel alienated in my own home, and I constantly feel like I need to hide myself. I already feel like I have to erase myself for my friends and the rest of the world, I wish at least I was more comfortable at home. The thought of not feeling that way makes me want to cry.
Something else that interested me was getting an adoptive uncle/aunt who lived close, because I’d never considered this and saw it in a tiktok. But I’m just overcome with this fear that my family will judge me for it, make uncomfortable comments, and i revert back. Or that no one will accept me. But when I imagine all my identities in my family together, i feel home. I don’t want to battle with this shame and loneliness anymore, and the thought I have to do it alone hurts even more.
Hi friends! I'm half Taiwanese and half white (Canada), and am now living in Toronto for university.
I know this is a tricky subject. I am fully aware of the process of trying to de-colonize North American and European ("western") culture and government. I am in full support of those efforts and I try to educate myself on them. However! Since moving into an apartment with some friends in September, I've experienced a lot of comments made towards white+asian relationships and "colonization."
For example! I started dating my boyfriend almost a year ago, and I was met with a lot of jokes about me being "colonized" by a white man. Haha funny at first, and I can take a joke, but sentiments like these have started becoming more frequent. Like when my friends discussed their new bumble match, who is wasian, and once realizing that he has a white dad and asian mom, commented "ahhh, colonization!" And nothing else! As I, a wasian, sat right in front of them. Or when the idea of yellow fever will come up– which I! obviously find gross! and troublesome!– and it will be discussed with vagueness and no nuance, and when I try to express how I feel about these subjects, my roommates will just sorta have glossed-over eyes and move onto something else. An example of this would be my roommates basically making a comment about how all white men who go to teach in asia are gross and are sexpats (now, obviously, I KNOW there are MANY of them, I've met MANY of them) but it's like! Hey! That's a problem but also a HUGE generalization about a very tricky topic! And I have personal attachment to this issue! Why are you not listening to me!
Once again, I know they are often joking. I know they're not meant to be serious. But it's like, you know, I know these people, and I fully know that despite their jokey delivery, there is actual honest belief to what they are saying. Has anyone else experienced comments like this? What are your thoughts? I'm honestly just ranting + am curious as to what other halfies think about this!
These Indian kids used to call me Buffalo fried rice and rice muncher. I didn’t think much of it until I got older and realized it was kinda fucked up.
So, I kind of feel bad or bitter for not ending up looking super white. When I see other hapa girls who claim to be half Asian and half white but look almost completely white, I always think "oh man, they won the genetic lottery" or "damn wish that was me". And when I was a child I always wanted to dye my hair blonde, and I tried using eyelid tapes, contact lenses and all of those "watch this video to get blue eyes" sort of crap. Am I the only one? I don't know if it's internal racism that has got me feeling this way, probably. My brother just always get complimented by my Asian relatives on how white he looks, and I also want that kind of validation from them. What should I do to heal or change from this?
Do you have black hair and brown eyes ?
My (white) mom and I started watching it together the other week. Coincidentally, we only really like Anna Shay who so far is the only hapa. What are all of your thoughts? Do any of you watch it with your family?
I think he married my mom because she was "exotic". When as a middle-aged adult I met my aunt, she said right off how "the blend" or "the mix" or some damn thing we are, looked so attractive. Bunch'a white-worshipers on that side but these are people born in the 1930s. No one in the US knows what a Tatar is (West Asian group, Russians know who they are) so I think my mom tried to pass off as Jewish, using words like kosher and dreck etc. I did a DNA test. I'm not even a tiny fraction Jewish.
When we kids started popping out, well, the oldest was a bookworm and stayed in but the rest of us loved to go out in the sun and now my dad's got all these brown kids running around him adoringly.
We moved to Hawaii partially, I think, because mixed families are part of the norm there. But ....
I remember my dad saying things like "There are 6 ways a Japanese person can smile, and 3 of them mean they'll kill you". We had Japanese stuff around the house and flew carp on Boy's Day but for all of us. Dad tried, but the only Asian food I can remember him eating was some cheap kal bi once.
Dad was a middle-class WASP who went to an Ivy. But he never wanted to apply himself hard. He did computer programming but he wanted to do, like, a week's work in one 24-hour burst then "crash". Mom wanted him to be constant and dependable, a thing I've learned whites associate with "suckers" and I certainly learned to never associate with him.
He played around, a ton. He talked about "stews" (stewardesses) and somehow he managed to go to places like Phuket, in the 1970s. He wasn't going there for the bird-watching...
I think he honestly thought he could park Mom and us in Hawaii and somehow relatives (we had a grand-aunt there with some money and California relatives) and he could go out and gallivant around.
My parents never formally divorced because that would mean my dad would have to be responsible and pay child support. I'm not saying my mom was perfect (she acquired a total lazy leech of a white boyfriend) but at least she kept us together until we were 18.
My dad settled down in his later years with a girlfriend who I think was Hawaiian-Chinese. I think she actually cared about him and that's a good thing because ... she supported him! Apparently all Dear Old Dad could do past his 40s or so was sit around and complain about not being able to get a job. Geez! He was a decent carpenter, he could have done handyman work. He could have collected cans. Anything.
This sub has been very helpful and enlightening to me and I want to thank you all.
Long story short, my BF (native Chinese) and I (white) are pondering having kids (in the future!) but I hear so many heartbreaking stories of hapa people suffering in childhood and in life in general. If we are ever to have children, I would like to be as informed and ready as possible to be the mother of a Eurasian child. For context, we would like to live in the US and/or in China.
A question for everybody - what made your experience tolerable? If you could be 're-born', how would you like your parents to raise you better? What did you wish other people/your extended family/your parents knew about you and your siblings？ Anything else I should know? Any resources, studies, documentaries etc?
Our second option is to adopt mono-ethnic passing children, but the BF yearns for a kid of his own....
I'm from the US (WM), and my wife is Swedish by citizen (born in Thailand, both parents Thai). We've lived in Denmark for the past 2 years, but I received a job offer in the US and we are in the midst of a move.
I was curious if anyone has made this move and whether they noticed any differences? We are also planning on having kids in the next couple years and I'm looking to hear of people experiences growing up in the US being HAHW. My wife has experienced some xenophobia in Denmark already, and I'm nervous it'll be much worse in the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeEiA2lwVco
This trailer and the story of this family reminds me of home. It's just absolutely scary that the father refuses to comply and help look for the mother when she is missing. As I read more about this case, this type of condescending attitude from the father to Ellie is very eerily similar to how my father had neglected me, and I say this as a fellow WMAF hapa.
This airsoft video came up in my recommended and I saw this girl and was like damn is she hapa ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm_wPKopDto
her Instagram is linked in the youtube video
I don't want to make false assumptions but her PFP on Instagram looks to be a picture of her as a baby and in that picture, she's very tan and looks much more Asian.
Id say its fair to assume she has had plastic surgery especially because of her pale white skin tone
Im hapa and when I was a baby I was pale white now that I'm older I'm a bit more tan.
If shes fully asian there's no way she went from being naturally brown/tan to magically white as an adult just my 2 cents
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