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[–] 26123157? points 18 points points (+18|-0) ago
It's the church equivalent of being an independent voter. Not affiliated with any particular party/denomination but instead committed to the truth.
[–] 26123259? points 3 points points (+3|-0) ago
Good analogy.
I would add that this is necessary politically. Even tho there are denominations, for the most part we all agree that we are first and foremost, Christians. No need for Trump to be a specific denomination while in his position.
[–] 26123173? points 2 points points (+2|-0) ago
I love your explanation! 🙏
[–] 26123369? points 1 point point (+1|-0) ago
Religion or "Church Denomination" Has been the root of most wars and problems in this world. Not claiming a denomination makes sense to me. Since most religions are corrupt. Many evils hide behind the veil of religion.
[–] 26123203? [S] points 1 point point (+1|-0) ago
So basically it's all about the scripture? He can go to any church he wants, but he doesn't even necessarily have to go to church, so long as he follows the book?
[–] 26127182? points 1 point point (+1|-0) ago
It's more about a relationship with Christ and redemption through his sacrifice for our sin. "Following the book" is a logical byproduct that flows out of reconciliation with God through Christ. Most dondenom Christians agree on the central doctrine but may hold different views on style, application, or things like spiritual gifts and end times things.
[–] 26124449? points 1 point point (+1|-0) ago
Exactly how it's to be done in the first place.
"Let no man deceive you"
[–] 26123671? ago
Exactly. He could visit a different church every day, hear different people speak.
[–] 26123479? ago
Are you shilling here? He just told you nondenominational isn't a denomination. It means it's not your business. He's said before that his "faith is very personal".
[–] 26123144? points 6 points points (+6|-0) ago
Less dogma, more living faith.
[–] 26123678? points 1 point point (+1|-0) ago
There's nothing wrong with dogma per se, just so long as the dogma is veridical. 2+2 = 4 is also dogma, lest we forget. Though it also means this:
God's existence is a mathematical theorem within standard physics. Standard physics is the known laws of physics, viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics. This theorem has been given in the form of physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology. These aforestated known physical laws have been confirmed by every experiment conducted to date. Hence, the only way to avoid Tipler's Omega Point Theorem is to reject empirical science. As Prof. Stephen Hawking wrote, "one cannot really argue with a mathematical theorem." (From p. 67 of Stephen Hawking, The Illustrated A Brief History of Time [New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1996; 1st ed., 1988].)
Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology has been extensively peer-reviewed and published in a number of the world's leading physics and science journals, such as Reports on Progress in Physics (the leading journal of the Institute of Physics, Britain's main professional organization for physicists), Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society (one of the world's leading astrophysics journals), the International Journal of Theoretical Physics (a journal that Nobel Prize in Physics winner Richard Feynman also published in), and Physics Letters, among other journals.
Prof. Tipler's Ph.D. is in the field of Global General Relativity, which is the field created by Profs. Stephen Hawking and Roger Penrose during the formulation of their Singularity Theorems in the 1960s. Global General Relativity is General Relativity applied on the scale of the entire universe as a whole, and is the most elite and rarefied field of physics. Tipler is also an expert in quantum field theory (i.e., Quantum Mechanics combined with special-relativistic particle physics) and computer theory.
For much more on Prof. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology and the details on how it uniquely conforms to, and precisely matches, the cosmology described in the New Testament, see my following article, which also addresses the societal implications of the Omega Point cosmology:
Additionally, in the below resource are different sections which contain some helpful notes and commentary by me pertaining to multimedia wherein Prof. Tipler explains the Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE).
Also, to here point out, Profs. Hawking and Penrose's aforementioned Singularity Theorems are themselves completely valid proofs of God's existence in the First Cause aspect of Him.
Further, due to Liouville's Theorem in complex analysis, it doesn't matter what form of physics one resorts to, as any physically-realistic cosmology (e.g., one capable of incorporating Quantum Mechanics, since the complex number field is intrinsic to the mathematical formulations of Quantum Mechanics) must begin at an initial singularity and end at a final singularity. (As Barrow and Tipler wrote, "Initial and final cosmological curvature singularities are required to avoid a universal action singularity." See John D. Barrow and Frank J. Tipler, "Action principles in nature", Nature, Vol. 331, No. 6151 [Jan. 7, 1988], pp. 31-34; see also Frank J. Tipler, "The Structure of the Classical Cosmological Singularity", in Origin and Early History of the Universe: Proceedings of the 26th Liège International Astrophyscial Colloquium, July 1-4, 1986 [Cointe-Ougree, Belgium: Universite de Liege, Institut d'Astrophysique, 1987], pp. 339-359; "Discussion", pp. 360-361.)
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For the historical reliability of Jesus Christ's bodily resurrection and the untenability of theories which deny his resurrection, see:
For more on the historicity of Jesus Christ's resurrection, see William Lane Craig, Reasonable Faith: Christian Truth and Apologetics (Wheaton, Ill.: Crossway Books, 3rd ed., 2008), Ch. 8: "The Resurrection of Jesus", pp. 333-404, particularly pp. 360 ff.
Regarding the Christ myth theory, virtually all the items which the Christ myth theorists claim as facts which show the parallels of Christianity with earlier pagan religions are completely fabricated modern claims that can't be found in the historical record. For an excellent discussion on this, see the following video:
The above video is an interview of James Patrick Holding (editor of Shattering the Christ Myth: Did Jesus Not Exist? [Maitland, Fla.: Xulon Press, 2008], amazon.com/dp/1606472712 ) by Dr. Craig Johnson on the topic of the Christ myth theory. See also the below resources regarding the Christ myth theory on J. P. Holding's website:
"Were Bible stories and characters stolen from pagan myths?", Tekton Education and Apologetics Ministry, www.tektonics.org/copycathub.html , web.archive.org/web/20190111041306/www.tektonics.org/copycathub.html .
"Did Jesus exist?", op. cit., www.tektonics.org/jesusexisthub.html , web.archive.org/web/20190611232716/www.tektonics.org/jesusexisthub.html .
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The below is an excellent lecture by neuroscientist Dr. Sam Harris, one of the main leaders of the New Atheist movement, at a June 2016 TED (Technology, Entertainment, Design) conference.
As Dr. Harris points out, unless there is something literally magic about the operations of the brain, then it is a purely physical process that can be replicated via advanced-enough technology. Harris further points out that given any rate of progress, it is inevitable that superintelligent godlike machines will one day be constructed. So Harris believes in the existence of gods, it's just that he knows--as do I--that they exist in the future; and the not-so-distant future, at that. Therefore we come to the ironic insight that materialistic atheism, consistently applied, unavoidably results in theism. Consistent scientific atheism turns out to be theism.
[–] 26168042? ago
Hi, 26126611?. You wrote:
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stephen hawking is deep state.
Next...
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Prof. Stephen Hawking certainly was deeply inculcated into the extreme anti-Christianity of the collectivists and their globalist-oligarchy controllers. Which is why he spent the rest of his entire life attempting to get around his own standard-physics proofs of God's existence with such non-empirical attempts at physics as String Theory. Hawking's own worst enemy in life was himself.
Unfortunately, most modern physicists have been all too willing to abandon the laws of physics if it produces results that they're uncomfortable with, i.e., in reference to religion. It's the antagonism for religion on the part of the scientific community which greatly held up the acceptance of the Big Bang (for some 40 years), due to said scientific community's displeasure with it confirming the traditional theological position of creatio ex nihilo, and also because no laws of physics can apply to the singularity itself: i.e., quite literally, the singularity is supernatural, in the sense that no form of physics can apply to it, since physical values are at infinity at the singularity, and so it is not possible to perform arithmetical operations on them; and in the sense that the singularity is beyond creation, as it is not a part of spacetime, but rather is the boundary of space and time.
In Prof. Hawking's book coauthored with physicist Dr. Leonard Mlodinow and published in 2010, Hawking uses the String Theory extension M-Theory to argue that God's existence isn't necessary, although M-Theory has no observational evidence confirming it.
With String Theory and other nonempirical physics, the physics community is reverting back to the epistemological methodology of Aristotelianism, which held to physical theories based upon a priori philosophical ideals. One of the a priori ideals held by many present-day physicists is that God cannot exist, and so if rejecting the existence of God requires rejecting empirical science, then so be it.
For details on this rejection of physical law by physicists if it conflicts with their distaste for religion, see Sec. 5: "The Big Bang", pp. 28 ff. of my above-cited "Physics of God" article.
The evolutionary psychological reason for the above-described bizarre behavior of physicists rejecting physical law when it demonstrates God's existence is due to the naturally-evolved Jaynesian gods of old--i.e., the demons--seeking to distance people from genuine knowledge of God so that the demons may instead falsely present themselves as God. Among many permutations of this, it often manifests as various forms of etatism: the state becomes God. Demons are quite real, they however exist as naturally-evolved Minskian agent subset programs operating on the wet-computer of the human brain. For more on this, see my following article:
[–] 26126611? ago
stephen hawking is deep state.
Next...
[–] 26125573? ago
Wow, where did you copy that chapter from?
[–] 26123376? points 4 points points (+4|-0) ago
It means that Donald J. Trump has shed the dogma that was passed down to him through his family and he is now purely focused in his fellowship with Jesus Christ and in accordance with guidance from the Holy Spirit, free from reliance on self proclaimed authority figures and free from golden thrones and silly hats.
[–] 26126622? points 1 point point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
I agree, our relationship with God needs to be something we work on, without all the rituals.
Do we know which Bible DJT reads?
I remember seeing a video about one passed down through his family, perhaps that is the translation he still uses.
I will have to look .
[–] 26123508? ago
Eloquent. Well said.
[–] 26123080? points 3 points points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
For a non-denominational Christian like myself, the Bible (God) is the authority. Leadership of denominations are targeted by the enemy, and from the top down groups of people can be led astray.
Christ has one body, the church, of which he is the head.
Colossians 1:18a
King James Bible
And he is the head of the body, the church
[–] 26123679? ago
The Bible isn't God. It's a book. There's a difference.
[–] 26126963? ago
In the beginning was the word...
Remember the rest?
[–] 26125721? ago (edited ago)
In the beginning the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Everything made was made through Him, nothing made was made without Him. John 1:1
Jesus is God in human flesh. Jesus is the living Word. Jesus on earth showed men God they could relate to and displayed Devine qualities consistent with the written Word used by Jews and others.
Jesus fulfilled and complimented prophesies about Himself and others. Jesus proved the Written word is itself Devine when read/recited/thought of/handled/etc.
[–] 26123233? [S] ago
Ahh that makes sense. Thanks anon!
What about the holy Trinity? Does the play into it at all as well?
[–] 26126989? ago
Doctrines are a way in which Satan divides the church.
Let God, through studying His word and prayer, answer those questions.
[–] 26125904? ago (edited ago)
Jesus is God creator, God Spirit that indwells believers and God in human flesh. A concept that is difficult to deal with but in believers is internalized using Jesus words, human scribes word and the living Spirit inside.
[–] 26123656? ago
I'm not sure what you mean. I was going to post a scripture verse about the relative positions of the Father and Son and came across this page with different opinions and many verses posted, so choose what helps you understand, since
2Tim. 3
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
https://www.quora.com/Which-Bible-verses-prove-that-there-is-no-Holy-Trinity
More verses that discuss where the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost/Ruach comes in are here. https://www.cepher.net/blog.aspx?post=5422
You can enhance your understanding of scripture by praying for understanding, and by meditating/chewing on it.
God has meaning in scripture, at various depths and facets. It is supernatural. Reading it can lead you to understanding and correction.
Denominations have leaders that interpret, or
put their spin on what comes from the one source.
In countries where Christians are heavily persecuted, they don't have time for denominations. You are a Christian or you aren't.
[–] 26123106? ago
^ This.
[–] 26123295? ago
Agreed. Denominations and churches are run by committees.
A camel is a horse designed by a committee.
Christ, and Christianity is about YOUR individual relationship with God.
[–] 26123141? points 2 points points (+2|-0) ago
Don’t over think it. The man believes in God and isn’t scared of saying it for fear of losing a vote. Take your socialist-marxist ass out of here.
[–] 26123147? points 2 points points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
When I asked my father, which version of God I was supposed to believe in, he said I wasnt baptised or christened, so I could choose for myself.
I know more about theology than anyone I know.
I know about ancient religions and ones that started last month.
I have become a student of the phenomenon of shared belief systems.
This drives you away from the churches, as they chase agendas, it does not however, necessarily exclude one from faith.
[–] 26123218? [S] ago
What if you were baptized as a child? How do you switch? Or can you? I think I share Trumps sentiment, I don't even need a church. Just the book is good enough for me.
[–] 26123204? ago
Faith is faithfulness to God. Just like a husband and wife are to be faithful to each other and keep their marriage vows, we are to keep the Ten Commandments.
[–] 26123206? [S] ago
I'm not socialist, I'm literally just asking because I don't understand what it means is all.
[–] 26123194? points 1 point point (+1|-0) ago
A true Christian puts faith only in God and not a denomination.
[–] 26123182? points 1 point point (+1|-0) ago
It means that he doesn’t want to offend anyone or say what he believes except in Christ.. So he’s saying Christian period.
[–] 26123143? points 1 point point (+1|-0) ago
Non-denominationalism is less "high-churchy" than Presbyterianism. In my area, the Presbyterians are pretty liberal.