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FatMike901
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I don't see why a raw copy tool like this or others would need to write to the source drive..  it only reads the source and writes to the destination. as far as I know. I could be wrong though. 

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Jimmy T.
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I bet this will get added into the slideshow soon.

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RoguePacket
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Keyphrase is "forensic clone".  Aside from the forensic linux distros mentioned in your other thread, check—

CRU's product line has the aforementioned write block devices desired.

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MustBeLucky
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FatMike901 wrote:

I don't see why a raw copy tool like this or others would need to write to the source drive..  it only reads the source and writes to the destination. as far as I know. I could be wrong though. 

I'm with you on this one but in another thread someone freaked me out by telling me i should make sure the solution had "write protection".

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FatMike901
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MustBeLucky wrote:

FatMike901 wrote:



Developer: 

License terms: Freeware

The tool creates a sector-by-sector copy of all areas of the hard drive (MBR, boot records, all partitions as well as space in between). HDD Raw Copy does not care about the operating system on the drive – it could be Windows, Linux, Mac, or any other OS with any number of partitions (including hidden ones). Bad sectors are skipped by the tool.

In addition, HDD Raw Copy can create an exact raw (dd) or compressed image of the entire media (including service data such as MBR, Boot records, etc). Again, all filesystems (even hidden) are supported.



You're providing some great information here. Do you know if this tool has "write protection"? (i.e. does not change original at all)

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FatMike901
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When you are considering making an image for any Forensic Related work. Consider Write Blockers before proceeding further with Software related tools like "HDDRawCopy"

"DD Rescue" 
One Tool that has automatic write blocking to disk & which works in DOS is 
"Media Tools Pro" which can try number of times for bad blocks & do reverse imaging.

MustBeLucky wrote:

The problem:

One of our computer's security has been compromised by someone. I know they created themselves an account but not much else, as I have not been snooping around as I want to protect the "evidence".

So in order for me to start doing forensics, I need to clone the drive. There are two requirements here: 1) The solution does not affect any data on the clone or the original. 2) The solution must also clone "empty" space from the original drive to the new clone. (want to be able to recover any deleted items)

I have been looking into clonezilla, but am afraid that the default settings do not meet the requirements. Can someone provide a solution with the appropriate settings to meet the requirements?


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RoguePacket
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MustBeLucky wrote:

....someone freaked me out ....


For shame!


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FatMike901
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http://www.osforensics.com/tools/create-disk-images.html

OSFClone is a free, self-booting solution which enables you to create or clone exact raw disk images quickly andindependent of the installed operating system. In addition to raw disk images, OSFClone also supports imaging drives to the open Advance Forensics Format (AFF). AFF is an open and extensible format to store disk images and associated metadata. An open standard enables investigators to quickly and efficiently use their preferred tools for drive analysis. After creating or cloning a disk image, you can mount the image with PassMark OSFMount before conducting analysis withPassMark OSForensics™.

OSFClone creates a forensic image of a disk, preserving any unused sectors, slack space, file fragmentation and undeleted file records from the original hard disk. Boot into OSFClone and create disk clones of FAT, NTFS and USB-connected drives! OSFClone can be booted from CD/DVD drives, or from USB flash drives.

OSFClone can create disk images in the dc3dd format. The dc3dd format is ideal for computer forensics due to its increased level of reporting for progress and errors, and ability to hash files on-the-fly.

Verify that a disk clone is identical to the source drive, by using OSFClone to compare the MD5 or SHA1 hash between the clone and the source drive. After image creation, you can choose from a range of compression options to reduce the size of the newly created image, increasing portability and saving disk space.

Use OSFClone to save forensic meta-data (such as case number, evidence number, examiner name, description and checksum) for cloned or created images.

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FatMike901
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http://www.datadev.com/hard-drive-forensics-eraser-data-security-erase-overwrite-data-recovery-lab-p...





PSIClone™ Hand-Held Hard Drive Cloning, Imaging & Erasing Tool

Available on GSA Contract GS-02F-0111P
Price $1,999.00 Delivered

The PSIClone™ Hard Drive Cloning & Imaging Tool is a hand-held data recovery lab that clones, images, erases and verifies computer hard drives.

The PSIClone™ is the product of 27 years of expertise in the data recovery field by a team of engineers who specialize in including ‘unrecoverable’ data recovery hardware and software solutions. Designed by the best data recovery engineers in the business, the PSIClone is the device chosen by forensic investigators to reconsruct "unrecoverable" data.

  • Provides a built-in write blocker to protect the integrity of the data on the source drive.
  • The disk cloning function creates a forensic copy of the source drive.
  • Includes MD5 hash calculation.
  • Drive imaging creates a file or set of files representing the entire structure and file system of a source drive.
  • Creates image files of 700 MB, 1 GB or 2GB depending on user preferences.
  • Formats the destination drive with a FAT32 file system so files can be used with other PC based forensic tools.
  • User-configurable error handling capabilities offer unique options when working with troubled drives
  • Built-in, non-destructive HDD diagnostics tool helps to identify drive issues quickly.
  • Saves custom configurations in non-volatile memory
  • Automatically detects and uses maximum drive transfer capability
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    Randon Brown
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    Randon Brown

    Clonezilla is your friend.

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    MustBeLucky
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    RoguePacket wrote:

    MustBeLucky wrote:

    ....someone freaked me out ....


    For shame!


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    LOL.. The IT world, where paranoia rules

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    Jeff1792
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    MustBeLucky wrote:

    Jeff1792 wrote:

    You can not clone to a DVD and retain empty space.  You need a disk the exact size or larger.

    You want a byte by byte clone so clonezilla or P.I.N.G. are good options.  They use Linux dd command which does exactly that.

     I am cloning to an external hard drive. Do you know if the defaults on clonezilla use dd first? (i think it has a couple of different protocols it tries). Does it provide write protection? (wont change original disc) and can it find "empty" space?
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    Someone above mentioned clonezilla only gets used space.  I would need to confirm that so can't answer your question fully.

    Does it provide write protection?  -  No coning software will mess with the original disk.

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    Jeff1792
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    Jeff1792

    Jeff1792 wrote:

    MustBeLucky wrote:

     I am cloning to an external hard drive. Do you know if the defaults on clonezilla use dd first? (i think it has a couple of different protocols it tries). Does it provide write protection? (wont change original disc) and can it find "empty" space?

    Someone above mentioned clonezilla only gets used space.  I would need to confirm that so can't answer your question fully.

    Does it provide write protection?  -  No coning software will mess with the original disk.

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    Website posts:

    

    • Based on Partclone (default), Partimage (optional), ntfsclone (optional), or dd to image or clone a partition. However, Clonezilla, containing some other programs, can save and restore not only partitions, but also a whole disk.
    Looks like you need to choose dd option
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    FatMike901
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    i can feel my spice meter going up, someone mark me down for best answer dang it!

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    FatMike901
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    I wouldn't use clonezilla for forensics, it's not designed for it. 

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    FatMike901
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    FatMike901

    OSFclone looks like a good bet

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    MustBeLucky
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    FatMike901 wrote:

    OSFclone looks like a good bet

    Thanks for all the replies. After the information you posted on it i agree with you. Looking into it more now. Ill let you know how it goes.

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    GregBriggs
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    If you check the Symantec website you can probably get a 30 day trial of Ghost. I know they do that with Backup exec

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    Jeff1792
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    "Boot into OSFClone and create disk clones of FAT, NTFS and USB-connected drives! "

    From a forensic point of view you're missing a large portion of the IT world.  No Linux servers in your shop?

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    DragonsRule
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    Jeff1792 wrote:


    Does it provide write protection?  -  No coning software will mess with the original disk.

    Unfortunately you can't be 100% sure of this.  There is a whole market out there for forensic tools which guarantee write blocking the source.  If you use something else and end up dealing with a lawyer they'll point out your lack of write blocking and your cloning could be considered tampering.  Of course, if going to court is a concern you probably shouldn't be doing this on your own anyway.
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    CrimsonKidA
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    Norton Ghost will do it bit-for-bit. I've cloned many HDDs successfully with it. AND you can use it for free with Hiren's boot disc. Be aware, some (not me, I could care less) consider Hiren's "warez," thus possibly unscrupulous. But if you're not a fearful sheep, proceed. 

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    Brian3049
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    To answer one of the questions that I saw, no clonezilla does not use dd first.  If my memory is correct it will only use dd as one of the last methods as it's slow and clonezilla is targeted towards speed over forensics. 

    Many / most / all of the options proposed appear to do what you're looking for, the key thing is to ensure that you're mounting the source file-system as read only and that you're using a "dumb" cloning backend like DD (one that does raw copying without attempting to save space / speed up the process)

    Good Luck
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    MustBeLucky
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    Just to let everyone know, I decided to use OSFClone. 

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    Steven (StorageCraft)
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    Michael,

    Glad you found a solution (and a "best answer").  I just wanted to mention that you can do a hot image of a system using ShadowProtect IT Edition on a USB key.  This solution has more functionality than you need (e.g. advanced partition utilities, hardware independent restore, VirtualBoot, etc.) but it does make for an awesome tool for any IT Pro's key chain.

    Cheers!

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