my game on steam early access and iOS
Posted 5 years agohttp://store.steampowered.com//app/384990
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gon.....016271917?mt=8
This is what I've been working on lately. I thought you guys might be interested. Linux, OSX and Android versions are coming soon. The main arcade game is finished, but I plan to add more detail to the setting and VR support, as well as crush unforeseen bugs before the real PC release. If the game interests you and you want to help find issues to fix before the final release, purchase it and post feedback in the steam community. I'll appreciate it!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gon.....016271917?mt=8
This is what I've been working on lately. I thought you guys might be interested. Linux, OSX and Android versions are coming soon. The main arcade game is finished, but I plan to add more detail to the setting and VR support, as well as crush unforeseen bugs before the real PC release. If the game interests you and you want to help find issues to fix before the final release, purchase it and post feedback in the steam community. I'll appreciate it!
Ante-throw con.
Posted 5 years agoI'll be there, of course. Just not off the roof or convention center, please.
Questions?
Questions?
Support my new game on Steam Greenlight!
Posted 5 years agohttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...../?id=446233677
I'm working on a game that I feel most of you will find interesting! It's based on
gonechoo's comic and features music and sounds by
jeschke. It needs some more traffic and votes if it's going to be Greenlit. I'd like to ask you guys to not feed the trolls in the comments if you are going to comment. The characters do eat each other, but this is not a vore game, so try not to focus on that in the comments or people will dismiss it as a fetish game, downvote it, and make this all a waste of time. Getting through to such a toxic community with a classic arcade game featuring cartoon animals is pretty tough, it seems, and I can't get by on furry votes alone, so I need to put on a professional face. Every little bit helps, though. Adding the game to your favorites and watching it will help get it out there, as well, since your friends will see it on their Greenlight homepage.
I'm working on a game that I feel most of you will find interesting! It's based on
Weasyl! Elder Scrolls Online! FWA!
Posted 5 years agoWeasyl!
https://www.weasyl.com/~ante
I'm just as active on Weasyl as I am on here. There really is no reason not to be, considering there is a simple crossposter addon for chrome that makes posting here and there pretty simple. I've supported them for a long time, considering feature-wise, stability-wise, ethics-wise, and now actually-being-owned-by-furries-wise, they're better then FA. The only issue is FA has way more users and people are afraid to switch over. Why not use both, though? It's not hard! Somebody even made a neat site that finds people you watch on FA on Weasyl. These addons make it pretty simple to use both FA and Weasyl at the same time. Links below!
Chrome crossposter addon: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/.....kfdaenjc?hl=en
FA Exodus Helper: http://kobitate.com/fa-exodus-helper/
Elder Scrolls Online!
I'm still playing! I know, right? IT'S NOT EVEN SKYRIM SO HOW CAN IT BE GOOD!? Anyway, you can play without a subscription now, so it seems a lot of people have started to pick it up. If you're one of those people, speak up here or add me on there. My username is @antecoyote on there. I'm happy to help out new players and stuff! I also have a guild that, for the longest time, has been pretty empty. It's an Aldmeri Dominion guild called "AldMURRY FURminion", and while currently it's mostly friends, I wouldn't mind turning it into a small network of furries who play the game. You don't have to play on AD to be in the guild, but you won't be able to do PvE content with most of us. We will gladly engage in battles to the death with you in Cyrodiil, though!
Furry Weekend Atlanta!
I'm going! I probably won't be green! Ante is my travel fursuit now, so look for a boring brown coyote with a giant nose and dorky glasses. I'd kinda like to meet new people this year, so poke me if you are going.
https://www.weasyl.com/~ante
I'm just as active on Weasyl as I am on here. There really is no reason not to be, considering there is a simple crossposter addon for chrome that makes posting here and there pretty simple. I've supported them for a long time, considering feature-wise, stability-wise, ethics-wise, and now actually-being-owned-by-furries-wise, they're better then FA. The only issue is FA has way more users and people are afraid to switch over. Why not use both, though? It's not hard! Somebody even made a neat site that finds people you watch on FA on Weasyl. These addons make it pretty simple to use both FA and Weasyl at the same time. Links below!
Chrome crossposter addon: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/.....kfdaenjc?hl=en
FA Exodus Helper: http://kobitate.com/fa-exodus-helper/
Elder Scrolls Online!
I'm still playing! I know, right? IT'S NOT EVEN SKYRIM SO HOW CAN IT BE GOOD!? Anyway, you can play without a subscription now, so it seems a lot of people have started to pick it up. If you're one of those people, speak up here or add me on there. My username is @antecoyote on there. I'm happy to help out new players and stuff! I also have a guild that, for the longest time, has been pretty empty. It's an Aldmeri Dominion guild called "AldMURRY FURminion", and while currently it's mostly friends, I wouldn't mind turning it into a small network of furries who play the game. You don't have to play on AD to be in the guild, but you won't be able to do PvE content with most of us. We will gladly engage in battles to the death with you in Cyrodiil, though!
Furry Weekend Atlanta!
I'm going! I probably won't be green! Ante is my travel fursuit now, so look for a boring brown coyote with a giant nose and dorky glasses. I'd kinda like to meet new people this year, so poke me if you are going.
Anthro New England!
Posted 5 years agoI'll be there! Who else will be?
Play Second Life? Used to play? Come check out my vore sims!
Posted 5 years agoI'm just taking a moment to plug the vore-centric sims I run in Second Life for anyone who is interested, or may want to hop back on to check them out. The sims are Erebus and Erebus Hills. Erebus is a very active sim with a sandbox, mall, land rentals and SLVC, Second Life's longest-running vore club, which has just received a very nice redesign by
nines. Erebus is a rental-centric sim I built from the ground up to be a just plain nice furry/vore friendly community for people to live, since rentals were in such demand in the main sim. Currently, there isn't enough demand for rentals, but I'll get to that in a sec. Anyway, SLVC and Second Life in general have changed quite a bit over the years, and it's free, so if you're looking for a place to check out where people won't care about your weird interests, check it out. There is nothing to lose.
As a creative type, I really enjoy Second Life, since I can upload my own models and textures or just build with prims. Currently I've been walking around wearing the Ante model I've been posting on here recently. If you make and sell products in SL, we have a mall where you can sell them. Spaces are L$50 a week, which comes out to about 20 cents. Most people will make more then that in one sale, and the mall is right in the middle of our busy sandbox, so you'll get a lot of eyes on your products.
If you want to check out SLVC and Erebus and have SL installed, click here:
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondli.....ebus/190/66/26
Now, for the rentals. Our rental sim, Erebus Hills, recently had a lot of renters suddenly take off who were renting quite a bit of space. I think they were all friends and once one left, it was just a domino effect. Probably more then half of the sim is still rented, but my rentals are cheap. They only really cover the cost of running the sim if almost every parcel is rented. It isn't a money making effort for me- I just want it to pay for itself and, honestly, I can't afford to pick up any slack, so I'm going to have to shut it down if more of it doesn't get rented. If you are currently renting in some mass-market, flat, ugly, square island rental sim surrounded by obnoxious Barbie Dreamhouses and neighbors that blind you from across the sim with their bling particles, consider moving to my sim! I promise I'll renting from me will be a more personal experience, I try to keep the sim looking nice and lag-free, and you'll be surrounded by your peers: mostly furries interested in vore. My prices aren't designed to make me money- they are designed not to lose me too much money, so my rent is considerably cheaper then more business-oriented rental sims. All I want to do is give people a nice place to be themselves, and the demand is much greater then one sim can hold, but not great enough for 2. If things aren't looking up by the end of the month, I'll have to announce shutting the sim down and my renters will probably have to move to one of those horrible, expensive rental sims where neighbors have no respect for each other. So if you've been looking for a place or know somebody who has, we're your place! We have plenty of 1024 square meter parcels available that are perfect for small houses. It's a common parcel size, so there are plenty of prefab houses for sale that fit them. The price for those is L$350 a week, or about $1.40. We also have one large parcel available which would be good for a large prefab house or even a public club or hangout. Speaking of hangouts, the sim has thick walkways and a long, open space beach on a boardwalk, so it's fairly nice looking compared to those sims that rent every last inch of space and cram people together like sardines (can you tell I don't like how most rental sims conduct business?).
Oh, and if you're worried about renting in the sim and having it shut down right under you, if I do decide to shut the sim down, all rent from that moment on will be refunded. If I fill just a few parcels, I'll be fine, though. I just rented a large one, and that makes a big difference.
If you're interested in renting in Erebus Hills and have SL installed, click here to check it out:
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondli.....lls/125/128/34
Sorry for the long pitch! I hope to see some new faces around. It's a fun place to hang out, at least for me. If it's not your bag, that's fine. It's free to check out, though.
As a creative type, I really enjoy Second Life, since I can upload my own models and textures or just build with prims. Currently I've been walking around wearing the Ante model I've been posting on here recently. If you make and sell products in SL, we have a mall where you can sell them. Spaces are L$50 a week, which comes out to about 20 cents. Most people will make more then that in one sale, and the mall is right in the middle of our busy sandbox, so you'll get a lot of eyes on your products.
If you want to check out SLVC and Erebus and have SL installed, click here:
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondli.....ebus/190/66/26
Now, for the rentals. Our rental sim, Erebus Hills, recently had a lot of renters suddenly take off who were renting quite a bit of space. I think they were all friends and once one left, it was just a domino effect. Probably more then half of the sim is still rented, but my rentals are cheap. They only really cover the cost of running the sim if almost every parcel is rented. It isn't a money making effort for me- I just want it to pay for itself and, honestly, I can't afford to pick up any slack, so I'm going to have to shut it down if more of it doesn't get rented. If you are currently renting in some mass-market, flat, ugly, square island rental sim surrounded by obnoxious Barbie Dreamhouses and neighbors that blind you from across the sim with their bling particles, consider moving to my sim! I promise I'll renting from me will be a more personal experience, I try to keep the sim looking nice and lag-free, and you'll be surrounded by your peers: mostly furries interested in vore. My prices aren't designed to make me money- they are designed not to lose me too much money, so my rent is considerably cheaper then more business-oriented rental sims. All I want to do is give people a nice place to be themselves, and the demand is much greater then one sim can hold, but not great enough for 2. If things aren't looking up by the end of the month, I'll have to announce shutting the sim down and my renters will probably have to move to one of those horrible, expensive rental sims where neighbors have no respect for each other. So if you've been looking for a place or know somebody who has, we're your place! We have plenty of 1024 square meter parcels available that are perfect for small houses. It's a common parcel size, so there are plenty of prefab houses for sale that fit them. The price for those is L$350 a week, or about $1.40. We also have one large parcel available which would be good for a large prefab house or even a public club or hangout. Speaking of hangouts, the sim has thick walkways and a long, open space beach on a boardwalk, so it's fairly nice looking compared to those sims that rent every last inch of space and cram people together like sardines (can you tell I don't like how most rental sims conduct business?).
Oh, and if you're worried about renting in the sim and having it shut down right under you, if I do decide to shut the sim down, all rent from that moment on will be refunded. If I fill just a few parcels, I'll be fine, though. I just rented a large one, and that makes a big difference.
If you're interested in renting in Erebus Hills and have SL installed, click here to check it out:
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondli.....lls/125/128/34
Sorry for the long pitch! I hope to see some new faces around. It's a fun place to hang out, at least for me. If it's not your bag, that's fine. It's free to check out, though.
A reminder that I do take donations through PayPal!
Posted 5 years agoThis is just a reminder that I do take donations to support myself as I work on these animations I've been doing. While they are fun to do for a time, my interest is pretty spent by the time I'm getting around to finishing them, and they do take an incredibly long time to do alone, since I do all modeling, animation, sound composition and interactivity scripting alone. Even on commissions and auctions, I'm not exactly making out like a bandit when it comes to the time I put into these animations. So please, if you enjoy what I make and can spare some cash to support me while I create them, donations would be greatly appreciated because while the ideas that pop into my head are fun, the execution takes a very long time and it is fairly tiring.
The Byron vs Jym animation should be finished soon. I only need to work on the sound and setting at this point. That can still take a while, though. After that, I need to get a new game out, hope it becomes the next Flappy Bird, pay off my debts and make dumb vore animations for the rest of my life. Until then, I can't make more vore animations if I can't pay my bills. My game sales have fallen off a cliff this year.
Also, shout out to those of you who have donated in the past. There have been some very generous people out there over the years and a few people who chipped in what they could. Thanks to all of you!
If you do want to donate, you can do so here: http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc.....=P4RSZMGQ9HGV4
That's the page for donations from the Byron vs Ernst animation, but it'll work just fine here.
The Byron vs Jym animation should be finished soon. I only need to work on the sound and setting at this point. That can still take a while, though. After that, I need to get a new game out, hope it becomes the next Flappy Bird, pay off my debts and make dumb vore animations for the rest of my life. Until then, I can't make more vore animations if I can't pay my bills. My game sales have fallen off a cliff this year.
Also, shout out to those of you who have donated in the past. There have been some very generous people out there over the years and a few people who chipped in what they could. Thanks to all of you!
If you do want to donate, you can do so here: http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc.....=P4RSZMGQ9HGV4
That's the page for donations from the Byron vs Ernst animation, but it'll work just fine here.
The Furpocalypse is upon us.
Posted 5 years agoAnyone else going to Furpocalypse this weekend? I'll be there with my new Ante suit and my Canine 2 People Interspecies Communicator, so we can talk about stuff! :D
What kind of vore animations would you want to see?
Posted 5 years agoWhat sort of vore animations would you like to see? What do you like to see in a vore animation? What kind of predators do you like? What sort of size difference? Any weird little quirks you like to see? I'm not looking for super specific scene ideas. I'm just wondering what I could do to make something that would appeal to the most people possible.
Rainfurest!
Posted 5 years agoI'll be there, and I'll have my new suit with me. Who am I going to see? :D
Keep an eye out for this pretty coyote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/05sr4ihtq.....04.44.jpg?dl=0
Keep an eye out for this pretty coyote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/05sr4ihtq.....04.44.jpg?dl=0
Would you donate to a patreon run by me?
Posted 6 years agoI've been considering making a patreon, but with how long the things I make take, I'm not sure it'd be worth it, or get enough supporters. Vore is kind of a niche thing, I'm not incredibly popular in the vore community, and I feel people won't want to donate very much per animation, even though they do take a ton of time to produce. I guess there is a semi-crowdfunding aspect to it where I can promise certain content based on total donations, which might get people donating, but I dunno! Currently, not many people donate. There have been a few very generous donations from certain people and just as few smaller donations. Ideally, I'd like to get more small donations straight through paypal. That would help me support myself while I spend time making these things. I'd also like to work on some larger projects and even games, but I can't justify it currently. I could charge for such a game, but I highly doubt I'd be making much more then I would from donations, since my audience is pretty small.
So I asks ya: Would you support a patreon run by me? If so, how much would you be willing to donate per animation? Be honest. I'm not going to go through the effort if it isn't going to be worth it. I want to keep making these types of animations, but I have to eat too, you know?
Bonus question: Would you buy vore-related games in the visual novel or point and click adventure genre? How much would you pay for such a game based on a 4 hour play time? Would you be at all interested in a story surrounding your vore, or would you prefer to get straight to the devouring? What sort of vore games would you pay for?
I'm trying to find a balance between my workload and being able to support myself. I do want to keep providing this sort of content, but it's so much work. If I can find something enough people would be happy to pay for, we'll all be happy. Yes, even the people who don't want to pay for it. Don't lie. You'll just pirate it and be just as happy as everyone else. DRM is a waste of time and I'll never use it. As long as I have enough happy customers, I'm good. If I was in this for the money, I'd target a larger market with plain old furry porn. :D
So I asks ya: Would you support a patreon run by me? If so, how much would you be willing to donate per animation? Be honest. I'm not going to go through the effort if it isn't going to be worth it. I want to keep making these types of animations, but I have to eat too, you know?
Bonus question: Would you buy vore-related games in the visual novel or point and click adventure genre? How much would you pay for such a game based on a 4 hour play time? Would you be at all interested in a story surrounding your vore, or would you prefer to get straight to the devouring? What sort of vore games would you pay for?
I'm trying to find a balance between my workload and being able to support myself. I do want to keep providing this sort of content, but it's so much work. If I can find something enough people would be happy to pay for, we'll all be happy. Yes, even the people who don't want to pay for it. Don't lie. You'll just pirate it and be just as happy as everyone else. DRM is a waste of time and I'll never use it. As long as I have enough happy customers, I'm good. If I was in this for the money, I'd target a larger market with plain old furry porn. :D
YCH interactive vore animation. 4 days left to bid!
Posted 6 years agoThe end of the auction is fast approaching. If you're interested, it's time to start bidding. It's better for the bidding to taper off before the end then to have the auction push into overtime by all bidding at the last minute! If you're not interested in bidding, I'd appreciate it if you helped get the word out. I don't do these often, so I want to make sure as many interested people know about it as possible. These interactive animations are made possible by the generous bidders on these auctions. I understand these end up and even start out of many peoples' price range, so you don't need to remind me. On the plus side, anyone can enjoy these animations after they are complete even if they don't involve their own characters and the more they go for, the more I'll make. If they don't net me at least minimum wage, I can't really afford to bother, unfortunately.
For all the details, check the description here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14257372/
For all the details, check the description here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14257372/
YCH interactive micro vore animation!
Posted 7 years agohttp://www.furaffinity.net/view/14257372/
I'm doing another YCH auction, since I could really use the cash and I kinda want to do something with a POV for use with Oculus Rift. If micro vore is your thing, or you know somebody who may be interested, check it out and spread the word. :D
I'm doing another YCH auction, since I could really use the cash and I kinda want to do something with a POV for use with Oculus Rift. If micro vore is your thing, or you know somebody who may be interested, check it out and spread the word. :D
My Oculus Rift DK2 has shipped
Posted 6 years ago:3
Oculus Rift Vore. What would you like to see?
Posted 6 years agoIt's approaching the time when my Oculus Rift DK2 will be shipping, and I thought that maybe I should start considering what I should do with it. I'll be making a Rift-capable version of my lion vore POV for sure (in fact, I already have, but I can't test it yet!), but I'd also like to make something new as well, but WHAT!? :O
What would you stick your actual face into a Rift in order to stick your virtual face into? Byron? A snake? A scary huge macro? A semi-huge anthro? Of course I'm not promising that I'll do what you ask for, so please don't get your hopes up. I just want to see what sort of things people want to see. This sort of feedback will hopefully allow me to make something that most people will enjoy.
Edit: macro/micro vore may be an interesting thing to witness through VR. I may do that. This also allows for something like being fed to a pet snake after being shrunken. That could be neat as well.
What would you stick your actual face into a Rift in order to stick your virtual face into? Byron? A snake? A scary huge macro? A semi-huge anthro? Of course I'm not promising that I'll do what you ask for, so please don't get your hopes up. I just want to see what sort of things people want to see. This sort of feedback will hopefully allow me to make something that most people will enjoy.
Edit: macro/micro vore may be an interesting thing to witness through VR. I may do that. This also allows for something like being fed to a pet snake after being shrunken. That could be neat as well.
Anthrocon!
Posted 6 years agoI'll be there! :D I'm kinda just winging it this year. If you have any questions, go ahead and ask and I'll answer it!
Anyone play ESO? I'm looking for friends and guild members!
Posted 6 years agoIs anyone here playing Elder Scrolls Online? I'm playing Aldmeri Dominion on the US mega servers. If you want to add me, my username is antecoyote. If you'd like to join my guild, AldMURRY FURminion (harr harr), leave a comment here with your username and I'll invite you. We don't have many people in the guild right now. It's mostly just friends of mine who are playing. A few more people and we'll have a bank. We'll need 50 to get a guild store, but hey, it's possible! We just need to get some momentum going.
The game isn't technically out yet. I think it's releasing 2 days from now. People who purchase it from Bethesda can play it early, and I believe pre-purchases and pre-orders still allow you to kick the Elder Scrolls lore squarely in the balls and play as any race in any alliance. Khajiit and Argonians working together, MASS HYSTERIA! But yeah, we're all pretty friendly and open to new people. :D
The game isn't technically out yet. I think it's releasing 2 days from now. People who purchase it from Bethesda can play it early, and I believe pre-purchases and pre-orders still allow you to kick the Elder Scrolls lore squarely in the balls and play as any race in any alliance. Khajiit and Argonians working together, MASS HYSTERIA! But yeah, we're all pretty friendly and open to new people. :D
I pre-ordered the 2nd developer version of the Oculus Rift
Posted 6 years agoUh oh.
FWA! I'll be there!
Posted 6 years agoHey guys! I'll be at FWA! :D I'll be getting there on Thursday and leaving on Monday! I'll be bringing my fursuit! I'm staying in the main hotel! I'm wondering who else will be there!
So, who am I going to see? :D
So, who am I going to see? :D
If you've been wondering anything about me, ask here!
Posted 6 years agoPeople have been assuming a lot about me or relying on second-hand information and I think it's been confusing to everyone, including myself! Luckily for you all I'm a real, actual person who can answer questions and will do so here! If you've been wondering how I do what I do, what I use, when I do it, etc., just ask! I'm very transparent about my work and I don't mind answering any questions about it, or about myself. Personal questions are also welcome. I'll probably answer most of them. Probably!
YCH auction: 3D interactive vore animation
Posted 6 years agoI'm doing a YCH auction and it's a doozy. If you want to be eaten by Byron in an interactive 3D animation, you can find out more about how you can make that happen here:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12742860/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12742860/
I do have a Weasyl, by the way.
Posted 6 years agoOn your way out, I'd just like to mention that I have a weasyl and I pretty much cross post everything there. If you want to crosspost there the super easy practically cheating way, check out this Chrome plugin: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/.....kfdaenjc?hl=en
Gee, I sure hope this new FA layout is worth pissing so many people off!
https://www.weasyl.com/~ante
Gee, I sure hope this new FA layout is worth pissing so many people off!
https://www.weasyl.com/~ante
Help pick FurFright's successor's name!
Posted 6 years agoThey pulled the name voting. Things just got way too hardcore. You can still donate and help out the con, though. :D
If you want to donate a bit to get the deposit for the con space paid for, you can find info on how to do that here. They only need a little more, but they need it soon if they want to get this con going for 2014. Every little bit helps!: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5312493/
If you want to donate a bit to get the deposit for the con space paid for, you can find info on how to do that here. They only need a little more, but they need it soon if they want to get this con going for 2014. Every little bit helps!: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5312493/
Oh snap, I have 1000 watchers and nobody told me.
Posted 6 years agoWell, whoever 1000 was going to be, you missed out. I was going to have a huge party for you. Oh well. Anyway, thanks all of you! 7000 more and I can test some junk for FA, so please, if you could all get 7 of your friends to watch me...
Hmm, that probably won't work. Who wants to make $1111?
Hmm, that probably won't work. Who wants to make $1111?
MFF!
Posted 6 years agoI was going to go to this great con in Chicago, arriving on Thursday and leaving on Monday, staying with Scurrow, Johann, Pepper, Spruce and Ichabod, but now I'm just going "MFF!" because I am being swallowed because apparently that's what happens to coyote people here on the internet. And man, that really sucks because I probably would have had a lot of fun at MFF, considering like EVERYBODY is going and it was going to be nuts and I was going to bring my suit and pretend to be not a coyote for a while (or a lemur), and it'd be cool since it's winter and all cold outside and not all sweaty like some other big cons. Whatever this is that's eating me, it's dang hot in here, and dark.
Well, it would have been fun, but I doubt I'll be making it now that I'm being swallowed and junk. Maybe in some alternate dimension where I'm some kind of weird creature with no fur or tail that doesn't have to worry so much about being devoured suddenly on a Friday night, I'll actually show up and it'll be really fun, but not me, because I'm being eaten. Fuck. (GULP) ACK! W-well anyway, if you're going, just yell really loud at this thing's stomach in a comment, I'd like to know who I would have seen had I been more lucky! (GULP) MFF! (BURP)
Well, it would have been fun, but I doubt I'll be making it now that I'm being swallowed and junk. Maybe in some alternate dimension where I'm some kind of weird creature with no fur or tail that doesn't have to worry so much about being devoured suddenly on a Friday night, I'll actually show up and it'll be really fun, but not me, because I'm being eaten. Fuck. (GULP) ACK! W-well anyway, if you're going, just yell really loud at this thing's stomach in a comment, I'd like to know who I would have seen had I been more lucky! (GULP) MFF! (BURP)