Vanster unstable admin

FierceG Friday at 8:48 PM

  1. Tom

    Tom Catmin Admin

    121
    694
    505
    So wise of you to start answering to the advice I gave you in a neutral form with an insult. Keep it up.
    Also please be so kind to explain where I am a hypocrite.
    A quick tip: if you provide the evidence right away or at least remember (write down/whatever) the map, the date/time, the score when the issue occurred, you can reduce the amount of time you need to find the proof from "dozens of hours" to approximately 5 minutes. You don't need to have Einstein's IQ to understand this. You don't even have to record videos or anything like that - the time, the map and, if possible, the exact or approximate score or even stage would do.
    If you are too lazy to remember that information or deal with the issue right away by providing the information about the proof at once, why do you come here crying that it's so hard to make a proper report? Why do others manage to do that?
    Why would anyone go to the server and wait for Vanster to do the "shit" you're telling us he does? How long will it take us to wait? I bet it would be more than "dozens of hours" or even one eternity because he might never do this again – in this case your report will stay unproven.
    I've seen Vanster playing and his actions have never disturbed me. Also it's not my job to keep an eye on other admins, I'm not a Senior.
     
    !-ZRampagewarriorZ-! and Exodus like this.
  2. Firdavs

    Firdavs BIGBOSS Member

    26
    7
    163
    you rarely play at all
    as above Fierc said
    you have to play constantly to see
    with your own eyes on it
     
    FierceG likes this.
  3. Tom

    Tom Catmin Admin

    121
    694
    505
    As I have said, I've seen Vanster playing and haven't found anything disturbing in his actions.
    What do you mean by "constantly"? 24 hours per day and 7 days per week? We both know that's not possible, right?
    Or should I ask Vanster when he connects so I can connect to watch his actions? How my spectating him now would tell me about his actually breaking rules and abusing in the past? Because "he does it every day"?
     
    !-ZRampagewarriorZ-! likes this.
  4. D3J4de

    D3J4de Weebmin Senior Admin

    419
    1,077
    755
    We had a lengthy discussion about this together with some higher-ups today and yesterday. There was certainly some level of "interfering with the gameplay too much" issue, which we talked out and warned Vanster about. Other than that we decided there was no need for further punishment, as Vanster does still do his "admin job" well for the most part and he is still very active member of our team.

    Admin critique is always welcome, and people do mistakes every now and then. Attacking personally however is not okay at any cost, even if you are bringing up a real argument or report.
     
    Lighty, !-ZRampagewarriorZ-! and jenz like this.
  5. FierceG

    FierceG Renowned User Member

    110
    317
    363
    Reminder that majority of personal attacks in this thread are aimed on me ;)
     
  6. Bomec's name is Leny

    Bomec's name is Leny User Member

    18
    18
    133
    If the critize are open , I would like to speak to you in a private message as requested since the beginning of my ban. thx dejade
     
  7. D3J4de

    D3J4de Weebmin Senior Admin

    419
    1,077
    755
    https://unloze.com/forums/unban-appeals.33/
    Here to help you on right section
     
  8. Bomec's name is Leny

    Bomec's name is Leny User Member

    18
    18
    133
    No, the right section is to talk to you in PM no ? Explain your self and explain my self before this.
     
  9. D3J4de

    D3J4de Weebmin Senior Admin

    419
    1,077
    755
    After how you decided to shit-talk me for extended period I have zero interest in talking with you in private. You can write an unban appeal, we will review it then.
     
    Tendub_, bAka and jenz like this.
  10. Middy

    Middy Awoo Fgt VIP

    224
    377
    470
    My comment is retarded. Is that the best you've got to say to my post, which clearly, you didn't bother to actually read?

    I merely said there were two general possible outcomes of becoming an administrator here. We've seen plenty of this crap before. It has happened before. It will always happen, we'll always have the chill and cool admins who carry out their duties in accordance, and the ones that let it get to their heads. It's got nothing to do with A, B or C being in charge in an upper stance. At the end of the day they are all still just administrators, they can be replaced if acting poorly, because it'll always cause a certain amount of trouble/drama. Read carefully next time you accuse me of spouting retarded shit, like you obviously seem to be a pro at doing.

    Fact is, you had a point in all this banter and whining, but you spoiled it all by bringing it out in a wrong way.

    And as far as personal insults go, I'm just speaking what I'm seeing, which is a manchild whining at a video game. So if you say I'm immature, prove me wrong, prove everyone wrong. Stop whining. And I mean, yeah it was around the time you left eze that you started behaving poorly, it is unfortunate, but it is how you've been portraying yourself.

    Are you going to whine some more perhaps and tell me I'm harassing, insulting you personally, so you look like a victim? When you're the one who literally asked for this, with this ridiculous exposing post? Honestly, anyone could have done a better thread on Vanster than you, cause this was just childish.

    Maybe I'm just wasting my time here talking to you in specific with this post, or maybe you'll grow the fuck up. Though I doubt that, with that reply of yours, eesh. Fucking yikes.
     
  11. FierceG

    FierceG Renowned User Member

    110
    317
    363
    After thinking a bit about this it baffles me. You confirm the existence of Vansters' admin abuse so there is no denying in it anymore. How do these dicussions go anyway? Probably listening a lot to what Vanster has to say.
    Look, when reading his replies Vanster shows no remorse whatsoever of his behavior past months. Ruining sessions for people with unnecessary bans/ebans/gags/mutes, forcing maps, forcing rtv's, making maps unnominatable, etc. So people just have to suck this all up?
    How you think the average unloze player feels when you aren't willing to sanction your own admins while admitting there is a problem, while you hand out bans so easily to regular players?
     
  12. D3J4de

    D3J4de Weebmin Senior Admin

    419
    1,077
    755
    Maybe I was not clear enough, but we did warn him, which is already some level of punishment. If he does something again in short period which is not befitting of admin, he will very likely be demoted. We however believe that he can learn and get the better feeling on the correlation between admins and the gameplay.

    And this hopefully allows you to see him in better light and maybe not be so hateful towards him. Same other way around towards you. Too much shit-talk in this thread from both admin and normal player sides.
     
    Last edited: Today at 12:06 AM
  13. Tendub_

    Tendub_ Admin Admin

    45
    79
    298
    ctrl+f "sorry" 0 results
     
  14. christo

    christo Active User

    27
    3
    33
    Ye, I got the 2-week ban for a yek by our most hated and biggest fagmin.. can you guess.. do you think you got it?? *drum roll* NEEOOOONNN! congrats you guessed it! the most irrelevant and most homosexual individual out here in this community.

    but wait! there's more! almost forgot I got a permanent eban. That's right ladies and gentlemen. permanent. You can delete this when you see it neon since it makes you oh so angry. Angry doggy.
     
    Last edited: 2 minutes ago
  15. BlackyDragon

    BlackyDragon User Member

    21
    7
    213
    spicy comments boys keep them up
     
  16. ruo

    ruo User Retired Admin VIP

    21
    12
    268
    anyone wanna play mario kart
     
    christo likes this.
  17. christo

    christo Active User

    27
    3
    33
    You down Ruo?
     
  18. ruo

    ruo User Retired Admin VIP

    21
    12
    268
    yo whats your friends code
     
  19. zeo

    zeo User Member

    14
    6
    33
    heard ruo's name irl is wario
     
    christo likes this.
  20. christo

    christo Active User

    27
    3
    33
    136082495


    whos your character? I got mario this time bruh.

    Blacky, Zeo you in on this?
     
-->