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-update- 2019.11.08The most up to date information on video playback and export is always available in the manual of Reaper. (thank you JamesPeters for pointing out the flaws in the previous version of this post) Last edited by airon; 11-08-2019 at 12:53 AM. Reason: osx x64 additions |
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good post. + 1 for making it sticky
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Regarding the ffmpeg 64bit new builds, I haven't been able to use them in Reaper even with all the files in the bin folder (Win7 x64 - Reaper v4beta10 x64), I've tested a few times with a different combination of files and nothing, although I've seen on other threads people reporting good results. Last edited by joaobgb; 06-24-2011 at 08:41 AM. |
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Place FFmeg.dylib in same directory as your REAPER.app See screenshot for example - my folder also includes libmp3lame.dylib for mp3 encoding +1 for making this a sticky. Along with the lame mp3 codec and SWS extensions, this seems important info for REAPER newbies. |
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Should be a sticky or wiki
Airon, did you ever find reaper slowly eating your memory when playing back h.264 files on reaper 32bit but win 7 64? |
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-edit- First impression. Yes, the memory consumption steadily grows. The video specs: Code:
Length: 25:31.843 Video: 1920x1080@30.00fps, Aspect=1.00, Decoding format=YV12 Audio: 44100Hz 2ch 16bps Using FFmpeg DLL decoder v52.61.0 (--enable-shared --disable-static --enable-memalign-hack --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- --cc=ccache-i686-mingw32-gcc --arch=i686 --target-os=mingw32 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-avisynth --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-bzlib --enable-libgsm --enable-libfaad --enable-pthreads --enable-libvorbis --enable-libtheora --enable-libspeex --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libxvid --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libx264 --enable-libopencore_amrwb --enable-libopencore_amrnb) Video: h264, yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 6994 kb/s Audio: aac, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 253 kb/s -edit- Full video has played. RAM compsumption grew by 50 MB over the course of playback at a steady burst of a little here and some there. It was not entirely continous. After a while of having stopped playback, RAM consumption fell by around 20 MB, and has so far remained steady. Reinitiating playback has RAM usage jumping by an instant 10 MB, and a few seconds later by another 10 MB. I started playback from the start and the RAM consumption is continuing to climb in the same fashion so far.
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A few of us are having issues using ProRes files. I get black screen in Win7-64 Reaper-X64. Someone else has reported the same thing on OSX 32 B11 and 12.
It's such a standard format now...needs Reaper attention. thanks...BB |
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Thanks for testing Airon, this has been a pain for me. The short film I'm currently doing is only 15 mins long but I can barely get through it twice before running out on reaper 32bit but in win7 64bit.
I didn't want to so the 64bit because of plugins and hardware controllers and we can't firewall the video window. Also the codecs I installed from your thread for the none ffmpeg decoding manage to steal the main outs on my lynx sound card so the front speakers don't work anymore so that's no go so far too Hope it gets looked at as it use to work. Quote:
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Friendly bump. Time to check this functionality again gents.
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i have a project that use a WMV file that loads & works on R3 but is jumpy on R4 (& eats more CPU allot more!)
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Transcode that sucker and keep the audio separate. It doesn't take long and saves you lots of headache.
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Airon,
Thank you for the posts. I had been following this thread from y'day. But it took some time to figure it out. This time I'll post about QT/MOV/MP4 exports as I work with them mostly. In this Format with only H.264 codec is shown. Is it like that? I conducted a series of import export tests with AAC,16 bit, 24 bit, diff resolutions etc.I rarely deal with serious video exports. To be open I don't know much about the video quality settings.Anyways whatever videos I exported from Reaper played back fine in QT,VLC and Win7 media players. But it was jerky when I imported it back to Reaper. Found out that the playback is smooth if the 'use OS video decoding instead of FFmpeg when possible' is enabled in preferences. But the sound is a bit late than the video !! It is V4x64 RC3 here. I used Aegiscorp free ffmpeg ,Win7 pro 64bit. i7 2600K. Couldn't notice a problem in playback and seeking. Sorry, I can't download your 60 FPS video right now. |
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Keep the sound separate and convert your H264 video to Quicktime MJPEGA(50-75% quality) or PhotoJPEG(medium to high quality). This will make it much easier for you.
Use the MPEG Streamclip tool from squared5.com to convert your clip and export your audio. That's the safest way right now. If you have the means, Quicktime Prores Proxy is good too for high resolution video(720p and higher) but you may need FinalCutPro to produce that. However, I haven't tested that with Reaper yet. It is great for Protools and since Protools is happy with Quicktime MJPEGA and PhotoJPEG, I figure it's good with Reaper too.
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Hey Airon,
Thank you . MPEG Streamclip seems to be very useful. Which (all) could be the most CPU efficient video format(s) to score music? - preferably less size,fast seeking and at least moderate clarity. Is there anything like that |
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H264 Quicktime files are great for delivery via the net or a USB stick. You then just convert the file for your own use. That's the way I get most of my video files when I edit and mix tv shows. H264 video will steal a lot of CPU time. That is its most negative aspect, and most of the time the picture departments do not create H264 Quicktime files that are useful in Protools, Reaper or Nuendo. You almost always need to convert them or you'll get a less responsive system that use uses more CPU for video, cutting back on what you can do with audio, which is what you're paid to do. So, delivery can be done with H264 compressed files. Working with them is a nightmare.
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Edit : Is Reaper's video engine QT? |
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No, Reaper plays video in two ways, either with what the system provides, which on Windows are the Video For Windows codecs and Direct Show stuff, or the FFMPEG playback libraries.
The safe route is to use Quicktime MJPEG A, which MPEG Streamclip has aboslutely no problem creating. You do need to have Quicktime installed, so MPEG Streamclip can use it. Test your workflows before you commit. Don't wait until you NEED to have it work.
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Just a real quick note that I much appreciate Airon's post by putting all the video related info together, can we make this a sticky? In fact, I've been thinking whether it would be useful to have a separate subforum for post production where we can swap tips / workflows / discuss issues etc.
Really useful, it's stuff that confuses me the whole time and I'm always running around looking for info and asking the same questions again whenever there's video mayhem. |
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Sticky !!!!!!!!
Airon,thanks a loooooot !! |
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Updated.
OSX 64-bit and 32-bit links and where to install information added, as confirmed in this thread.
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Updated with news of improvements that lets users now use the latest Zeranoe 32-bit or 64-bit shared FFMPEG DLLs.
Please keep in mind that this only works with the latest Reaper v4.03pre7 and up, which is still only available via the Pre-Release forum. Has anyone found newer OSX builds of the FFMPEG shared libraries ?
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Airon,
Thank you very much.
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Can anybody help me with video rendering. I have a dv clip synced with audio recorded separately, it plays ok in reaper but when I export it as any format mpeg, avi etc. the audio is out of sync and the video looks like is on fast speed( Charlie Chaplin movie style).
I have the latest Zeranoe FFMPEG codecs I've tried with Aegiscorp build too but no luck . I'm on win7 64 bit I've tried with a portable installation version of reaper 32 bit but it behaves the same way. Any suggestions ?! |
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Check out the movie properties with another media player like VLC or MPC or Windows Media Player and see if the frame rate matches what you used.
Is the DV video a Quicktime ? Could you post the Item Source Properties (CTRL+F2 for selected item is the default) of the item containing the video ? What settings in the render dialog window did you use ? A screenshot would suffice.
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Hi there,
I've been trying to get video working in REAPER for a project I'm currently working on. I'm keen to use a non-GOP codec for editing and have been trying to get Avid's DNxHD codec to work with no luck. I'm running REAPER 64bit on Win7 x64. I've got the KLite Codec Pack installed as well as the Zeranoe FFMPEG .dll files in the REAPER's top directory. I'm using REAPER 4.02, so would this issue be fixed by trying 4.03? Currently REAPER builds the peaks file and then all I get is a blank screen. I've managed to get an H.264/.mp4 working fine and a Motion JPEG-A/.mov file working fine. It would be great to get DNxHD working as it seems to be a popular format used for editing in post. Thanks for all/any help, Tim. |
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I found the problem, it was the buffer setting from my Rme soundcard, it was on maximum because I've worked on a very demanding project before exporting the videos. Anyway I think it's a strange behavior, it's not normal to get out of sync and have a scrambled video just because the buffer was set at 4048.Not sure is related with the soundcard drivers, I don't see any relation between the buffer and the video output.
Maybe you should check it with other soundcards . Tnx for your support . |
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There is another bug within Reapers video playback engine, which is struggling me for a long time now. Go to a certain frame, let's say frame 24 and start playback. You can cleary see that playback starts at frame 23. This should get fixed. |
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But do report this in the bug issue tracker. Be sure to include as much detail about the video, your card, your driver version as possible.
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I'll look into it for some details.
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After examining the black video output issue, it's not the zeranoe build all alone. It was a rather complex situation in my project file, directly accessing the audio track of avi-files. I don't think it's worth to be explained detail.
From my experience you can safely use zeranoe's build with video files in quicktime motion jpeg format. Sorry for shooting out too fast on this one Apart from that, it seems to be reproduceable that reaper while starting playback shows one frame before the actual starting point. I'm gonna post some info on that in "v4.10rc2 - September 23 2011". |
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Hello again,
I now can view a .mov file encoded using the rather excellent DNxHD codec in REAPER, but it will only work on the 32bit version. I still get a black screen when using the 64bit version. Can anyone suggest why this would be? Cheers, Tim. |
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What other non-GOP alternatives are there? If DNxHD is going to be awkward and MJPEG/PJEG look awful it would be good to try something else.
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Quicktime is not available as a 64-bit version for 64-bit Windows systems, and FFMPEG cannot decode the DNxHD codec.
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There are the smallest-file-size Prores formats, but the same problem there persists until Apple puts out a 64-bit version of Quicktime for Windows.
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Airon, thanks for clarifying this for me, it was beginning to become quite a headache.
I must say that it is quite annoying though. The results I'e experienced using DNxHD are fantastic, and it seems widely used in post production. To only be able to use in 32bit operation is a real limitation, especially when scoring to picture. Thanks, Tim. |
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