500 EUR / day contract gigs
500 EUR / day contract gigs
I'm getting e-mails from several staffing agencies offering me contract jobs around Europe for 3-12 months, mostly in Germany, the Netherlands and the UK, where they often promise rates around 500 EUR / day , sometimes even way more.
Do you have any experience with these? Are the rates legit? What's the catch?
They’re just contractor jobs, there isn’t really a catch other than that you don’t get any perks of being an employee. (Maybe you do in some places idk)
Be careful of accepting any employee perks.
In the UK you could be caught under disguised employment regulations - IR35.
If you act like an employee, you could be liable to pay tax as an employee, on top of your corporation tax as a company.
Not sure on other EU countries.
How's the treatment of these contractors? Do they expect them to be "rock stars" or just regular engineers (that they can fire at will, unlike employees)?
Where I live (Sweden) those rates are really low for a contractor. So don't forget to account for employer taxes to fully understand how much you'll be getting
How common are contractor offers in Sweden and what are the rates and taxes on that?
The catch is that that rate is before taxes etc. That rate is what they are billing the company you are working for. So 500 EUR/day is kinda low
No, you are mistaking contract work for consultancy. A contract for €500 a day is paying you as a business/sole trader. You are the company. Obviously it is before taxes, as are any salaries posted in those countries.
Contractor dutchie frontend dev here. €600 per day excluding VAT is more normal. €640 and up is in real nice territory, meaning you can take 4 months off per year if need be.
There's not really a catch, if your leads are real is up to you to find out, I guess it's normal to get those emails if you're in other parts of EU and have a good amount of years in work experience logged on your LinkedIn. The catch is, yeah less to no social security. But in my case I find the increase in actual money more than makes up for that.
Contractors usually cost 80-180€ an hour, so 500/day is not a lot.
Don't forget that you have to pay taxes/insurance/pension on this income (depending on where you are from) and other expenses (a hotel on remote jobs for example)
180e in which country? This is extremely high! In belgium the highest you may get as an embedded software engineer with many years of experience (15+) is 700e/day
Contractors usually cost 80-180€ an hour,
Keep dreaming. 180E an hour for an independent contractor in software development is completely unheard of. 120 is the highest I've seen here in NL, for VERY senior roles.
In Germany, in a high col area, my company pays around 600€/day for experienced c# devs. Once we had one for 350€/day on a remote position, he where from the ukraine.
Are the rates legit?
Sure. Depending on your experience they're on the low side. I'm a contractor, also NL, and my current rate is 92.5 an hour.
What's the catch?
That you're a company so you don't get unemployment, pension, etc.
Keep in mind that these recruiters often put 10-25 euro's an hour on top of that rate. So it's best to go direct so you get all the money instead of a bunch of recruiters getting paid 10 or more an hour for doing literally nothing.
€500 is low and you end up screawing yourself. Don't fall into the trap of shady recruiters. You need to take good care of yourself and your health.
Hi. Which agencies are these? I get nothing but contract opportunities only in the UK. I am struggling to find any in Netherlands or Germany for android mobile engineering
Sent you a PM. I don't want to promote them here.
500 Euro per day is on the lower end but alright. If the project suits you, go for it. But make sure you talk to a tax expert before doing so, as there might be pitfalls depending on which countries are involved. Make sure you have proper health insurance etc.
Do you have a uni degree? How many years of experience do you have?
The rates may be realistic, but don't move to a different country based on vague promises in an email. Have you done contracting work before? It's usually well-paid, but sometimes you will get the duff jobs that permanent staff don't want to do, and you may not end up working with nice tech.
If you pay 40% taxes that's about 80k. I don't know if that's good or not. I'm not even from EU I just did the math.
If you pay 40% taxes that's about 80k.
40% is too high. If he's be Dutch he'd end up with about 99k (assuming 1600 billable hours a year), more if he'x an expat that falls under the 30% ruling.
Just want to share my story, i finish my degree at 29 just this year and I have a lot of offers on the table, I have a github with several projects I did in my degree and a good linkedin profile with a proffesional photo.
Never give up really, i was depressed for so many years, changing majors, traveling....
but finally I made it
Good luck, you can do it!!
Hi guys. I joined a firm in London on their technology apprenticeship scheme in September. I did some training which finished in late October but I haven't been able to find any projects or work to join and just sitting here twiddling my thumbs essentially.
I have used this opportunity to learn some new skills but honestly no one wants an apprentice with zero technical experience on their team.
It's pretty disheartening, especially for my first proper job and I've started looking for other jobs. I guess what I would like to know boils down to 2 things.
Does anyone have any advice about how a person with zero experience can even go about approaching managers about any work I could do?
When applying for other jobs what reason can I put for leaving the firm? Not sure if it's a good idea to shit on my previous company on an application lol.
So I live in Manchester at the moment, and am weighing up my options on the mainland, specifically Amsterdam and Berlin.
Berlin seems to have the edge when it comes to salary - cost of living ratio, and it's probably a little better suited to me for cultural activities, too. However, my reading suggests that Germany is a difficult place to live if you don't speak the language, in large part due to the amount of bureaucracy and perhaps slightly fewer English speakers?
Now, let me say that I definitely intend to learn the local language wherever I end up, but I'm concerned that I may struggle to get by whilst I'm still learning, and so Amsterdam might represent the easiest option in this regard.
Is this a sensible analysis, or is there less of a difference than I am imagining?
I would like to work and live in Australia, my passion is surfing so I dont know how this can be possible.
How SE are treated there? Holidays are like in Europe or is like more a USA system.
Any information will be welcome.
Thanks
I've recently graduated with a BEng in CS from a Russel group university but I have no experience or placements/internships, a dead GitHub, no references, and due to depression took an extra 2½ years to finish my degree.
I've applied to around 20 jobs so far but understandably heard nothing back from any of them. What can I do to improve my employability?
I am a EU national, PhD graduate and 1 year work experience in Asia Pacific region. My current field is AI, NLP and Speech. I am strongly considering relocating to Europe or UK, and began sending my CV around. While I managed to get a lot of recruiters calls for AI related roles, and I have a couple of interviews scheduled (all for jobs based in London), I have been unable so far to pass even the CV screening or get a single recruiter call for whatever concerns finance (Fintech companies and startups, quant, etc).
I know many former colleagues and acquaintances who actually managed to did the switch in no time, but it seems I have been keeping hitting walls so far. I would therefore like to ask any suggestions in order to raise my chances to land an entry level position. Unfortunately I cannot post my CV in public, but I would be able to discuss it privately.
So I'll soon be a CS graduate and was wondering what the likelihood of working remotely is, as it's my dream to live somewhere like Spain while working somewhere like the UK.
Also, which jobs or companies tend to be more flexible with remote working?
Hello good people of reddit,
This is probably going to be a log post so bear with me. I'll try and keep it as concise as possible.
I was hoping to get some suggestions regarding good universities in Europe for MS in Data Science, Machine Learning, or AI, that are open to students with a non-CS background (or at least doesn't require a bachelors in CS as a prerequisite).
Here's a brief background of myself. I have graduated in Mechanical Engineering in June 2019 from India. I took up some electives during my undergrad pertaining to Data Structures, C programming, Python Programming and Data Mining. Besides that, I completed certified online courses in Python programming, a couple of courses in Data Science on EdX, Machine Learning MOOC by Prof. Andrew Ng (Stanford University), and the Deeplearning specialization by deeplearning.ai, on coursera.
I have undergone a 2 month internship in mid October, where I briefly worked on Convolution Neural Nets(CNN's), and a bit of medical image pre-processing.
Besides the two month internship I have no work experience as I was focusing on the ML and DL courses. I am currently in the process of finding a job/internship in a related field hoping to gain some more profession experience and also with the hope of filling the gap year.
I am aiming for Fall 2021, for an MS in DS/ML/AI. During my limited research regarding universities in Europe, a large number of them required some background in CS, while some require that a few courses have been undertaken during undergrad.
My questions are as follows:
- I was wondering how open European universities are in accepting a non-CS student into a DS/ML/AI program?
- What are some good universities/programs that you could suggest, given my background, especially a non-CS background?
- Any other tips and suggestions would be most welcome
For all of you who have come this far and taken out time to reply, here's a cookie.
I'm moving from Germany to Sweden (Malmö) and I will be working in IT (senior position sysadmin/network). I have an MSc and 4 and half years of work experience.
I received an offer of 42k SEK (before taxes). Do you think this is bad, decent/accurate or a good offer considering the area of work, city and assuming I have very good references :)) What would you consider a 'very good' offer for someone with these qualifications?
Thanks in advance for all your input.
I recently took a job that has extremely bad practice everywhere. All devs are leaving, except grads. I am looking to move on however I have served less than one year at each of the last 3 jobs (including this one).
I am worried that only serving 9 months on each of the last couple of jobs will make me look bad. I moved one for relocating to my wife's city and another because of unusually long working hours. I would prefer to stay in a role for a couple of years than job hop, but am conscious that employers may not believe this.
I don't want to bad mouth this company by describing their practices when asked why am I moving on, however, I want to get across how serious the situation is. I don't know how to do this, any advice on how to tackle this question?
Hi all, I was just offered a position as a graduate developer in south London for September and was curious what people think as I don’t know much about the tech job market in London.
My background: I’m studying at a lesser known uni which ranks around 50 for Computer Science in the UK. I should be graduating with a first and I have 10 months experience from an internship I did.
The company is in the FTSE 100 and deals in collecting and selling data/analytics to other companies. The starting salary is £34k which I was told would be reviewed yearly alongside reviews for promotions; I’d be working with .NET/C#
Is this offer good? Reviews of the company seem decent with the only reoccurring issue brought up being office politics.
Edit: the location is around the Epsom/Mitcham area so kind of on the border of London and Surrey
So looking for iOS developer jobs in Barcelona what salary should I expect with this kind of experience?
I was thinking: 40k minimum seeing the demand and the salaries that some offers have.
Giving a bit more background, I have experience since 2016 with iOS and developed some apps I have in the Appstore that are good.
I have a Computer Science degree.
And related to iOS development I'm working for a startup to develop a product from ground to production and everything related to the App (an iPad app, a TodayWidget and an Apple Watch app).
And for half a year or a bit more i've been working as a "Mobile Engineer" continuing with the iOS work I have to do with the Android app to develop some features and solve some bugs that had to be done and make the experience as equal as possible with the two apps.
Thinking of moving there after living in Netherlands for five years. Most of my experience has been in C++.
Hi everyone!
I've received offers from Facebook London (TC 100k£) & Spotify Stockholm(TC 857K SEK). Role at Spotify is much more aligned with personal expectations + had great fit with the team. Facebook is FANG, so can open the door to many opportunities later on, but reputation has gotten downhill over past couple of years.
Any thoughts so as to
• life in Sweden v. London (I don't live in either cities atm)?
• Spotify v. Facebook?
• Potential future opportunities with one or the other?
• Offers: is compensation competitive + can I live well in both locations with this salary?
Thanks!
Background: I am a backend developer with 7 years experience, currently based in Bonn (Germany), working for a big enterprise for last 1 year. But as in many big enterprises, work here is a bit boring and not at all challenging. I also find the city a bit too laid back (no offense Bonn residents).
I am considering targeting some of the exciting and not too big companies in Berlin and London. What are some of the companies, I could target? Also, what is the salary range I could ask for? I am currently thinking 75-80k EUR for Berlin and 80-85k GBP for London.
My current list includes:
DeliveryHero
N26
Zalando
Omio
Transferwise
Skyscanner
Deliveroo
I've been wanting to move to Norway for the last few years since I've started university.
Now i've got my degree, im wondering, how do I actually make myself competitve while applying for jobs? I'd be perfectly fine looking outside Oslo if that boosts my chances (I've even had my eye on Tromsø)
Ideally I want to get in before the Transition Period ends in December so im kinda working on a limted time frame (looking on the Norway immigration site, they're gonna have a special residence permit Brits can apply for).
I feel like the language barrier could be the main issue at the moment. Would it be worth applying to ads in Norwegian if I only speak English?
I realise I graduated at the worst possible time, but I want to at least try and make this work.
Hi guys,
Never really saw a lot of topics about the tech division in IB.
Do you know how difficult it is to get a job there? Is it in any way on pair with big N? What is the pay and how long are the hours?
I am a Scala developer and work in Madrid. Talking with colleagues, everyone seems to agree that there is a hard to cross line around the 60k mark in purely Java/Scala programming skills and that in order to cross it you either have to go into management or freelance.
Do you feel this is true? How is it in your country?
Hi, everybody!
I've been working in the Embedded aerospace domain for a couple of years, dealing with low-level (drivers) to high-level software (machine learning algorithms) for satellites, testing included.
I would like to have some suggestions from you as my company would like me to do training/workshops around Europe this year, to expand my knowledge.
Unfortunately I can't find anything interesting on the web; does anyone have any knowledge of events or courses that could be useful for me?
Thanks
I'm a 3rd year university student and have started applying to internships. I've been Googling' "Summer 2020 Computer Science Internships" and filling in the ones that I find interesting but I just seem to be filling in the same information, again and again. I'm wonder if theres better methods of seaching and filling in and if anybody has advice on getting one in UK/EU.
Keeping it short. Job hopping. I am 2 years into career, currently in my second job, hopping into 3rd. My reasons are partially monetary (employers just don't bump salary much with responsibilities and effort) so I find employer who will. Not my fault, just the system in London IT world. However, a bigger reason for me is that I simply get bored of work. I know what to do, it gets less challenging, sometimes mindless and since I do not have much energy to study on my own, I realise that my work time must be fully productive and occupied to not fall behind.
During my interview adventures, early last year, I met a young guy who was a senior engineer 4 years into career at well-known fintech in London. He said he never stays in a job longer than 18 months because of what I wrote in first paragraph. He makes exceptions when he is promoted and recognised but all companies so far dropped the ball on that.
I am pretty young still, but am I right in assuming that job hopping is the way to go? I almost always get asked about my short stint of 9 months in graduate job, but never get asked about 1.5 year at current company. Does it mean one can stay for a year-1.5 and be able to explain it away not raising too may flags? I also honestly having attended dozens of interviews have never got seriously in trouble about me interviewing. It felt like they like me, and if I can solve their leetcode mediums, they are happy to give me an offer.
What is your experience? I realise one day I might want to go to exec level (coding in 40s is just not what I see doing) but it requires levelling up at a company for a few years. I guess job hopping is the way to find where it is. Anyone else have ideas?
I'm a computer science student at a non Russel group university, ultimately my plans are to move from the UK but I need some sort of work experience to even be desirable.
My CV isn't terrible since I have worked on a number of personal projects including a open source one that's used daily by 75k+ people and it has my github on it.
I'm not giving up on getting a 12 month placement or a 3 month one but I need to consider if I dont get one and what is the best possible thing for me to do?
As per the title just curious to hear if anybody has made the switch to Data Scientist from a previous, related, field and what their experience was like. Specifically :
What were you doing before?
What did you do to up skill yourself?
How did your new salary / position compare to your previous?
I have a Bachelor's in CS and 3 years of experience in mainly Angular/TS and ASP.NET Core/C#. I've gotten an offer of 45K SEK per month before taxes. Isn't this on the lower side for Stockholm?
I'm in the final year of my degree now and I'm looking to secure a job in time for for when I finish my final exams.
I keep hearing from this sub and other related circles that 25k is ridiculously low for London and 30k isn't much better. However, doing a search for junior and graduate developer positions on Indeed, it seems that 25k jobs are a lot more common and quite a notable number push as low as 22k. 30k jobs are out there but in far fewer numbers than the 22-25k jobs.
Looking around on Glassdoor and CWJobs, both report the average salary for a junior web developer in London to be around 24-27k.
As it stands, I currently have no job experience but have a reasonable amount of personal experience with the Node.js ecosystem and React/Vue, so I'm demonstrating this on my CV in the form of projects. My uni isn't really a top uni and isn't a Russell Group either, but within the top 25 so I guess you could call it average.
Realistically, what would be a reasonable amount for someone with this type of profile (or otherwise) to expect in terms of salary?
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