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A Feast for Crows (A Song of Ice and Fire, #4)
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Hey everyone, George RR Martin here. I thought I'd take some time off from planning my intricate and complex storylines (spoiler alert: everyone has sex with everyone and then kills each other) to introduce A Feast for Crows, the long-awaited fourth installment in my epic fantasy series! You guys are in for a treat, this one is awesome.
So the last book was quite a ride, huh? There was that craziness that was the Weddings of Death, Tyrion killed his father, , Jon Snow finally got cool and is now Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, Arya continued to be a tiny BAMF, Bran looked like he was finally moving towards a real plot, and Daenerys decided to temporarily shelve her whole unleash-the-dogs-of-war plan and be a queen for a while. Also I made Christmas come early for Madeline when I killed off Catelyn Stark, only to bring all her hopes and dreams crashing down when it turned out that Catelyn is a zombie now and will never die. Hee hee hee.
Anyway, with all that cool stuff, you probably thought that this book was going to be made of awesome, what with all the fallout from the stuff I described above. And it will be, but unfortunately my attention to detail and complex storylines finally came back to bite me in the ass, and it turns out I couldn't devote an entire book to all the plots I started in the last book. So I divided them into two volumes, and saved all the cool people for Book Five. Want to read about Jon Snow, Daenerys, and Tyrion? Too fucking bad.
Don't worry though, this means we get to meet lots of fun new characters, like Theon's crazy uncles and a lot of random people from Dorne. They each get just one chapter, of course, because they only exist so I can have a perspective to show all these events from (my changing single-character viewpoint structure has also begun to bite me in the ass, unfortunately) and you'll probably never see them again, but that's what makes it fun!
It's not all bad, at least - Arya's still here, even though she's not doing much murdering or really much of anything. This is where Arya learns how to be more awesome, so she can wreck everyone's shit later - or maybe not, because in the last chapter we see her in, she's just gone blind. Is it temporary, or permanent? You'll just have to buy the next book and find out (maybe)!
And hey, I gave you guys some Cersei chapters, finally. And yes, she's just as much of a psycho bitch as you always suspected. You're welcome. Also Jaime chapters - bet you didn't think he would turn out to be one of the only decent characters in the series, huh? (of course, if he's becoming one of the good guys, that means I'll probably murder him soon) And there are more Samwell Tarly chapters! Everyone loves reading about Sam, right? Guys? Guys? Where are you going?
Don't worry, the next book will be all about Tyrion and Daenerys and Bran (look, it's going to pay off soon, I swear. Really guys, he's going to be interesting eventually.) and all the other cool characters that I totally ignored in this book and that you really wanted to read about. As for all the character-based cliffhangers I established in this book, will they be resolved in the next volume? Probably not! I am George RR Martin, and I demand your money and your tears!
PS: Quit bitching at me to write faster. You'll get your books when I say you get them, and not a day sooner. Don't push me, or the next volume published will be titled A Siege of Tears and it'll be nothing but Jon Snow, Bran Stark, and Samwell Tarly sitting around and thinking about how inadequate they are. Do not test me on this, nerds.
So the last book was quite a ride, huh? There was that craziness that was the Weddings of Death, Tyrion killed his father, , Jon Snow finally got cool and is now Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, Arya continued to be a tiny BAMF, Bran looked like he was finally moving towards a real plot, and Daenerys decided to temporarily shelve her whole unleash-the-dogs-of-war plan and be a queen for a while. Also I made Christmas come early for Madeline when I killed off Catelyn Stark, only to bring all her hopes and dreams crashing down when it turned out that Catelyn is a zombie now and will never die. Hee hee hee.
Anyway, with all that cool stuff, you probably thought that this book was going to be made of awesome, what with all the fallout from the stuff I described above. And it will be, but unfortunately my attention to detail and complex storylines finally came back to bite me in the ass, and it turns out I couldn't devote an entire book to all the plots I started in the last book. So I divided them into two volumes, and saved all the cool people for Book Five. Want to read about Jon Snow, Daenerys, and Tyrion? Too fucking bad.
Don't worry though, this means we get to meet lots of fun new characters, like Theon's crazy uncles and a lot of random people from Dorne. They each get just one chapter, of course, because they only exist so I can have a perspective to show all these events from (my changing single-character viewpoint structure has also begun to bite me in the ass, unfortunately) and you'll probably never see them again, but that's what makes it fun!
It's not all bad, at least - Arya's still here, even though she's not doing much murdering or really much of anything. This is where Arya learns how to be more awesome, so she can wreck everyone's shit later - or maybe not, because in the last chapter we see her in, she's just gone blind. Is it temporary, or permanent? You'll just have to buy the next book and find out (maybe)!
And hey, I gave you guys some Cersei chapters, finally. And yes, she's just as much of a psycho bitch as you always suspected. You're welcome. Also Jaime chapters - bet you didn't think he would turn out to be one of the only decent characters in the series, huh? (of course, if he's becoming one of the good guys, that means I'll probably murder him soon) And there are more Samwell Tarly chapters! Everyone loves reading about Sam, right? Guys? Guys? Where are you going?
Don't worry, the next book will be all about Tyrion and Daenerys and Bran (look, it's going to pay off soon, I swear. Really guys, he's going to be interesting eventually.) and all the other cool characters that I totally ignored in this book and that you really wanted to read about. As for all the character-based cliffhangers I established in this book, will they be resolved in the next volume? Probably not! I am George RR Martin, and I demand your money and your tears!
PS: Quit bitching at me to write faster. You'll get your books when I say you get them, and not a day sooner. Don't push me, or the next volume published will be titled A Siege of Tears and it'll be nothing but Jon Snow, Bran Stark, and Samwell Tarly sitting around and thinking about how inadequate they are. Do not test me on this, nerds.
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Reading Progress
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June 1, 2012
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June 15, 2012
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June 15, 2012
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6.6%
"AND THE CERSEI CHAPTERS BEGIN! I've been waiting three books to get inside her head, and let me tell you, folks: it's violent and paranoid in there, and I am loving it."
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June 17, 2012
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"Oh my god, Petyr: either you want to fuck Sansa or you want to be her dad. PICK ONE, YOU CANNOT DO BOTH."
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June 19, 2012
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"Characters I do not give a crap about: any of the Greyjoys, everyone from Dorne. People I love reading about: Tyrion, Daenerys. Guess who's glaringly absent from this book? This is bullshit, Martin."
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June 19, 2012
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"Characters I do not give a crap about: any of the Greyjoys, everyone from Dorne. People I love reading about: Tyrion, Daenerys. Guess who's glaringly absent from this book? This is bullshit, Martin."
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June 21, 2012
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"So Sansa is still stuck with Petyr, who has told her to use the alias Alayne so no one will figure out who she is (and, y'know, save her from the creepy murderer because that would be just terrible), and now the chapters from Sansa's perspective are titled "Alayne." Somehow, out of everything that has happened to Sansa so far, this saddens me the most."
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June 22, 2012
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""If [Cersei] had only married Rhaegar as the gods intended, he would never have looked twice at the wolf girl." There's one for you, Jon-Snow's-parents-were-Lyanna-and-Rhaegar conspiracy theorists."
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June 23, 2012
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"Arya just drank some potion, and the last sentence of the chapter goes, "When she woke up in the morning, she was blind." I flipped ahead, and there are NO MORE ARYA CHAPTERS in this book. GOD DAMN YOU MARTIN."
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June 25, 2012
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"Even a little thing like "being dead" cannot stop Catelyn Stark from completely misreading a situation and doing something to "help" that actually makes everything much, much worse. I hate more than any of the real villains in this series."
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I've hears this book such bad compared to the previous ones. do you agree?
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It's not any less exciting or violent than the others (although so far there's a sad lack of sudden, awesome plot twists - it's early, though); my big problem is that there are a lot of new characters and narrators, which meant that some of the well-established narrators are conspicuously absent. The lack of Daenerys and Tyrion is starting to annoy me, and although Jon Snow was never my favorite character, he was just starting to get cool at the end of the last book and there was the possibility of some good plots coming up for him. But is he in this book? Nope, instead I have to read about Samwell fucking Tarly and it sucks.
spoiler alert: everyone has sex with everyone and then kills each other
Dammit, Madeline, I was meaning to read this series and now you've ruined it for me.
Dammit, Madeline, I was meaning to read this series and now you've ruined it for me.
Lol, love it. For some reason even though I only ever made it about a hundred pages into the first book (it wasn't that bad, I just didn't really feel like joining them all on this grand epic adventure at the time), I've become rather fond of reading less-than-glowing reviews here on goodreads. Yours got me a-grinning. Has Martin even declared which book will be the last?
According to the Wikipedia page, there are supposed to be seven books in all (but that could change, because the series was originally supposed to be just a trilogy and also I refuse to believe that Martin can bring everything to a satisfying conclusion in just three more books)
If he lives that long! Have you seen pictures of him? If ever there was a man on his way to a coronary it's Martin.
I think that the weird character split for books four and five was a huge mistake - in fact, I think both books suffer for it.
Sherry wrote: "If he lives that long! Have you seen pictures of him? If ever there was a man on his way to a coronary it's Martin."
Hah hah hah, he's gonna pull a Jordan on all of you! wait and seeeee!
Hah hah hah, he's gonna pull a Jordan on all of you! wait and seeeee!
Exactly, James - I get why he didn't want to include Tyrion in Book 4, because it was kind of cool that the other characters had no idea what he was up to, and neither did I - but would it have killed him to throw us a few Daenerys chapters? And there were way too many Greyjoys in this book.
i thought the dorne plot was kind of interesting (not so much the greyjoys). i don't know how you are going to feel about book 5. it is all of what you want and more of what you don't. and more of what you want in a way that you don't.
The Dorne stuff got better as it progressed, but I just got frustrated with how he apparently thought it was necessary to use a new character for each chapter, even though it was all taking place in basically the same location and concerning the same events. In the earlier books he'd always found clever ways to make sure his narrators saw all the important stuff, but in this book it was like he suddenly got tired of it and took the easy way out by just creating new perspectives and discarding them after one chapter.
"Even a little thing like "being dead" cannot stop Catelyn Stark from completely misreading a situation and doing something to "help" that actually makes everything much, much worse." hahahaha great!
There are no words to properly describe how much I hate Catelyn Stark. Like Regina George, she's a life ruiner. She ruins people's lives.
Thank you so much for this review. I haven't laughed so much for a very long time :-D
I'm stuck somewhere in the middle of this tome and you just nailed it. Especially the part about Catelyn Stark - I think she is just there to punish us readers.
I'm stuck somewhere in the middle of this tome and you just nailed it. Especially the part about Catelyn Stark - I think she is just there to punish us readers.
This was my favorite of the 5 books I think. It's hard pressed to choose between this one or book 5. Anyway, I like this review as much as I liked the book. Waiting for book 6 so maybe I'll reread the first 5. Who knows
People give this book a lot of bad rap, but he set the book 6 up for some really good events to take place plus he really fleshed out parts of the world he had been neglecting. I think it's incredibly short-sighted to think that Dorne and the Greyjoy's were just boring little tidbits that didn't needed to be added. In fact, I think he set it up nicely for a war of 6 queens to eventually take place between: Cersi, Margery, Sansa, Asha, Arianne, and Daenerys. I think that would be pretty badass
Right, but if we're getting ready for a war of queens, do we really need chapters about three different Greyjoy men who are, essentially, all the same character anyway?
And let's be real - if Marten's endgame is "war of six queens" it's not going to happen until Book Ten, if we're lucky. Marten doesn't exactly burn through his plots quickly.
And let's be real - if Marten's endgame is "war of six queens" it's not going to happen until Book Ten, if we're lucky. Marten doesn't exactly burn through his plots quickly.
lol true I agree that it would've been simpler if he had just picked one Greyjoy and stuck with that perspective (sometimes the plot gets stretched too thin), but I don't think their storyline is disposable in the grand scheme of things. For instance, Daenerys needs to cross the Narrow Sea and it just so happens that the Greyjoys are sending one of the biggest fleets in Westeros to go find her. I think it's all going to tie in down the road. He just had to set the pieces up in this book.
Your review had me laughing out loud! You address every complaint I have with this book! I found A Feast for Crows to be largely disappointing. Although most of the chapters were mind numbing and completely uneventful, a few earned redemption by serving noteworthy morsels in the final paragraphs. Cersei's ironic reversal of fortune was this novel's only saving grace.
This had me laughing my ass off. Just finished the book today and couldn't believe all the unfinished business. I'm not even going to read book 5 for awhile because I'm so let down by this book.
This had me laughing my ass off. Just finished the book today and couldn't believe all the unfinished business. I'm not even going to read book 5 for awhile because I'm so let down by this book.
So the measure of a book of this calibre is how cool a character is or epic plot points coming to a head? Glad to see you're reading this for all the right reasons. Oh, yeah and a character like Sam making a transition from craven to coming into his own rite, punching out another Black Brother when he becomes a turncloak, stumbling across a secret sect within the Citadel that's all for getting Daenarys back to Westeros... Yes all this development that makes the character at the end of this book unrecognizable from the fat craven who arrived at the Wall in Book 1... So boring and sucky.
So the measure of a book of this calibre is how cool a character is or epic plot points coming to a head? Glad to see you're reading this for all the right reasons.
Yes. No one ever reads books because they have excellent characters and good plotting. You got me there.
Yes. No one ever reads books because they have excellent characters and good plotting. You got me there.
You had me laughing so hard with this review.. Absolutely spot on. I loved books 1-3 but this is the book when I stopped reading (particularly when there's absolutely no sign of the end of the series)
Hahaha, you've pretty much said all the things that I wanted to say and hence saved me the trouble. Thanks pal! BTW, I also hate Catelyn as much as you do, from nearly the very beginning.
I actually started liking Catelyn more once I saw her portrayal on the show - the actress who plays her does a fantastic job, and I think I understand the character a lot better. I think I like the tv version of Catelyn better because we can watch her, and don't have to be inside her head.
This review is my exact thoughts while reading this book. I'm only half way through and am having so much trouble getting through it, though I flew through the other ones.
"Want to read about Jon Snow, Danaerys, and Tyrion? Too fucking bad." HONESTLY THOUGH.
"Want to read about Jon Snow, Danaerys, and Tyrion? Too fucking bad." HONESTLY THOUGH.