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==Weapon==

I've been anaylzing the trailer and am wondering about her weapon. In the poster she appears to be armed only with an M6, but in the trailer I spot a rifle of some sort on her back. From several angles (1:07, 1:10, 1:24) it looks like she has an assault rifle (based off the stock structure) but from 1:23, based off the barrel (which is notably shorter than an MA5 and bears resmemblence to the M7's barrel), this notion is contradicted. Perhaps a carbine variant of the MA5 or an M7 with an elongated and modified stock? Someone else care to take look at it and tell me what they think?

[[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 05:59, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

:As in the MA5K variant?

:[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/5/59/MA5K.JPG] or [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/archive/5/59/20080830204114!MA5K.JPG]

:If this is the weapon you saw it may add some credibility to the Noble team/Spartan III argument as it is the S-3's trademark weapon. --[[User talk:CiaoGamer|CiaoGamer]] 10:35, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

::Just looked at the trailer, it does look like a MA5K to me. --[[User talk:CiaoGamer|CiaoGamer]] 10:41, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

== Kelly ==

After watching the trailer I have noticed Kat,looks like Kelly in the Halo Legends episode "the package". what do you think ?--[[User talk:Heroicpotatoe|Heroicpotatoe]] 21:18, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

::I guess a little, but how is that relevent?[[User:Sith Venator|Sith-venator Wavingstrider]] [[File:ODST Crest.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|Commlink]]) 21:21, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

True, she was with other Spartans --[[User talk:Heroicpotatoe|Heroicpotatoe]] 21:25, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's impossible

for her to be kelly. Just look at her number:320. Spartan II's only went up to about 150. She is either class 2 or a spartan III.[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|FatalSnipe117]] 14:54, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't make sense for her to be Kelly. All the Spartan IIs are in their forties when Reach takes place. Kat is twenty two. Also, Kat has black hair, Kelly's is red.

[[User:Jun Liesel|Jun Liesel]] ([[User talk:Jun Liesel|talk]]) 22:12, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

== Voice Change? ==

it seems like Kat's voice changed from the reach announcement trailer to the most recent ViDoc, she had a Scandinavian accent in the announcement trailer, but seems to have a more american accent in the ViDoc, should we note this on the article? [[Special:Contributions/66.59.49.88|66.59.49.88]] 18:36, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

:I wasn't under that impression at all. She sounded exactly the same. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|'''Halo-343''']] [[User talk:Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] 19:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

It still seems different to me... [[Special:Contributions/66.59.49.88|66.59.49.88]] 19:33, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

==Pegasi Delta==

It's interesting how Jorge mentioned specifically about Noble Six surviving Pegasi Delta, yet Kat is also from Beta Company. That seems to indicate that she was removed from Beta Company before the Pegasi Delta mission. What do you think? Worthy of noting in the Trivia section? --[[User talk:Jimmy-San|Jimmy-San]] 18:18, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

This page does not include all of the available info. Kurt's transmission to Mendez from the Reach Project Page states that Kat took part in Operation: CARTWHEEL, the mission before TORPEDO, where she lost her arm. She was not sent with the rest of Beta Company. Also, Jorge was making an inside joke probably referring to how Noble 6 "was sent" and "survived" when in actual fact that was not the case. [[User talk:Littlestag|Littlestag]] 21:08, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Not to be a noob but why do I have no "edit" option for Kat's page? I want to add the material I posted above and for obvious reasons I cant. Help would be appreciated. Alternatively add it yourself. [[User talk:Littlestag|Littlestag]] 21:41, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

== Hackers ==

Anyone noticed that Catherine bears a striking resemblance to the 1995 Angelina Jolie? She's supposedly a exellent hacker, and I'm wondering if it isn't a referance to

http://zenithofhotness.com/images/angelina-jolie/hackers.jpg

== Deliever Hope Trailer ==

According to the new [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_082710# Bungie Weekly Update] the latest live trailer, ''Deliever Hope'' is before the events of ''Halo: Reach'', and it is during this battle that Kat loses her arm while the original Noble Six sacrifices himself to destroy a Covenant Convette. I would put this on her page, but yeah....--[[User talk:Juubi no Ryuu|Juubi no Ryuu]] 02:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

It was actually a cruiser, mostly likely CCS class. [[User talk:Sierra 003|Sierra 003]] 22:27, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

How do you know Thom was the original Noble Six? The only known original members of Noble Team are Carter and Kat.

There were only two noble six's. Thom and then noble six.

== Ideas for Trivia... ==

- Kat was the first Spartan to talk in the E3 2009: Reveal Trailer. Making her voice the first "Halo: Reach" Spartan voice ever heard.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14276699/halo-project/videos/haloreach_spc_rewindtheater.html

(Something like that)

thanks!

[[user:The Unbalanced Warrior|The Unbalanced Warrior]] 04:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

==Trivia==

Based on her accent as heard thus far, Kat may be of Russian or Scandanavian descent.

== Deliver Hope trailer ==

Does anyone know who plays her in the Deliver Hope trailer? [[User:LiLLiPaDDy|LiLLiPaDDy]] [[User talk:LiLLiPaDDy|~True tears are never seen, only hidden~]] 11:07, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

:A man/stunt-actor.- [[User:Subtank|5əb'7aŋk]]([[User talk:Subtank|7alk]]) 11:14, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

::Actually, Bungie made sure a woman played her to make it as realistic as possible. So yeah, some woman. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|'''Halo-343''']] [[User talk:Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] 11:17, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

:::*sigh*- [[User:Subtank|5əb'7aŋk]]([[User talk:Subtank|7alk]]) 11:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

::::[http://yfrog.com/muvrjnj We have a conspiracy on our hands!] - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|'''Halo-343''']] [[User talk:Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] 21:42, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

:::::Shape-shifter! ''*gasp*'' - [[User:Subtank|5əb'7aŋk]]([[User talk:Subtank|7alk]]) 21:44, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

sigh she is canonlogicy a woman so stop saying she is a man, and i swear i'll freakin' kill anyone else who says she is a shape shifter.

1. Sign your posts.

2. They're talking about her "Deliver Hope" actor, not her. We all know she is a woman.

3. The death threat was really unnecessary. [[User:Tgor365|'''Tgor''']][[User talk:Tgor365|'''365''']] 22:40, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Wow dude, grow a sense of humor. No one really thinks she's a shapeshifter or a guy. Everyone just calm down, have yourself a fish biscuit, and we'll get through this. [[User:FatalSnipe117|'''Que''']] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|'''Sera''']], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|'''Sera''']] 22:59, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

uh fish biscuit i'll have a chicken biscuit instead and yes the death threat was necessary i was trying to make a point to these morons. --[[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 19:07, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

:Leave that to the admins, why don't you. It's their job to make threats, with bans, not death, mind you.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|Fairfieldfencer]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|FFF]] 21:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Fairfield. Speaking of admins "God like65",you do know that the "morons" that you threatened were administators? They were joking around with each other and you threatened them. I assure you that both of them know that Kat is a female (which wasn't even what they were discussing). [[User:Tgor365|'''Tgor''']][[User talk:Tgor365|'''365''']] 21:49, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

woops sorry guys. --[[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 19:35, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

==Death==

Any of you guys mind putting up the details of her death? She dies running after getting out of an elevator and gets sniped from a Phantom that shot through a hole in the damaged building.

My question is, what weapon was she killed with; in Reach, the Covenant don't have any one-shot sniper weapons. My thought is perhaps a prototype Beam Rifle. [[User talk:Sierra 003|Sierra 003]] 02:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

:Actually, the beam rifle existed at least as early as 2531. It doesn't appear in ''Reach'', but it does exist in canon at that time. Either she was killed by a short burst from a focus rifle or she was killed by a beam rifle, which, of course, is not usable in-game. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson]] 03:06, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

:Neither. Her shields were down due to the nuclear energy from the glassing. She got shot in the head with a needle rifle. [[User:FatalSnipe117|'''Que''']] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|'''Sera''']], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|'''Sera''']] 04:28, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

:Pretty sure her shields would still be up. Their shields would have been recharging by that time, or we would have seen crackling energy around her when they went down. I'm pretty sure she was shot by a needle rifle. [[User talk:WisdomThumbs|WisdomThumbs]] 01:03, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

:actually she shut off her shields because she thought they where safe and in the cutscene her shields didn't flare up when she got hit by the glass shards which they would have if she had her shields turned on. [[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 01:25, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

::But why would she shut off the shields? To save energy or something? Didn't she know she was in hostile territory? I read on YouTube that her shields were down due to an EMP, but that didn't make a lot of sense to me either. Update: in https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Kat-from-Halo-Reach-die-so-easily a user wrote "after the EMP of the Covenant plasma bombardment her shield took a long time to come back online", so maybe there was an EMP effect of the large explosion that was happening. Maybe EMPs make the armor recharge/come-back-online way slower than normal. However, when is an EMP ever mentioned or referenced in this part of the game? Text "emp" is not on this page: https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/New_Alexandria_(level). --[[User:User000name|User000name]] ([[User talk:User000name|talk]]) 06:35, January 16, 2020 (UTC)

:: Update 2: Her death is also explained in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8d4z5Zg_Bc --[[User:User000name|User000name]] ([[User talk:User000name|talk]]) 21:04, January 23, 2020 (UTC)

==Sentence Update==

''Kat's death was attributed due to her fatal lack of situational awareness. '''Like the lost of her right arm''', Kat underestimated the gravity of her situation and failed to initiated her armor's shielding system.''

Sentence could use some reworking. [[User talk:JustinSaneV2|JustinSaneV2]] 17:34, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

:-That part of the game was just to add emomtion, it was not well done nor well lthought out either. None of that scene makes sense. Nuclear Radiation and Vaccum of Space are not very different, and neither was the electromagnetism nor radiation that went out from the slipspace makeshift bomb, even if nuclear explosion might give a slightly bigger amount in shorter time. Nevertheless if the radiation is enough to overload her shields, which are to say the most important part of the armor, and most likely the most protected part, then her visor, and communications would have gone down as well just like the slipsspace bomb took down the SAT image, and as we know the visors of ODST and Spartan helmets aren't clear glass they are complicated pieces of technology designed to acquire images and feed them back on the other side of the visor.

:So in other words, if her shield went down, she would have been blind since her visor would not work, deaf for communication systems are certainly not as reinforced as shield pieces so she could not hear anything outside her helmet, and mute, because she could not talk on the way down of the elevator.

:In the end it was bad story telling, the best way to kill someone so talented, is from a pop shot, but the execution of such idea was very poorly done by Bungie. Is like saying, a nuclear explosion fries the systems of every military hardware within its radius but leaves intact and working a video camera and a walkie talkie... just doesn't make sense.

:Good idea, poor execution.

:[[User talk:Spartas Maximus|Spartas Maximus]] 20:32, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shields go down all the time, after they get shot enough. The power was still there, just not the shield, or else they would have been unable to move the suit at all.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 20:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I got the feeling that Kat was meant to be helmetless at the time. However it may have been too graphic and affected the rating. It doesn't make sense, shield or no, to me as the armour should be tough enough to take/deflect a needle shard.

It would make more sense that the radiation would have disabled her shields similar to a plasma pistol shot and left the other systams working. if there was enough radiation to permenetly damage her armor, then she, Jun, and Carter would likely have been hurt by the radiaiton blast as they weren't wearing their helmets during most of the scene. Orginally planning on her not wearing a helmet during the scene is a good thought because, if I'm not mistaken, according to the books, Spartan helmets can take headshots. [[User:Johnskee218|Johnskee218]] ([[User talk:Johnskee218|talk]]) 18:26, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

== Sniper ==

The page says that the sniper that shot her was an Elite. After seeing the cutscene a few times I couldn't tell what shot her. I'm not saying it wasn't an Elite, just wondering if someone can prove it. Also, if it was, what rank of Elite was it, just out of curiosity. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:00, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

:It's extrapolation. Elites are typically the ones who hold Needle Rifles.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 15:03, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

::Fair enough, and I'd much rather it have been an Elite than a Skirmisher :P [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

The shape of the silhouette appears to be an Elite and the armor glow is gold, like that of a General.

:-- [[User:Donut THX 1138|Donut THX 1138]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |Comm]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> 22:45, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

:I think it was a Zealot. I watched the scene also. My confirmed opinion is a Zealot. The Magenta color and blue outline in my view. -- TheRookie09

I've reviewed the cutscene a few times over. It's a Field Marshall that kills Kat-true, the helmet's Zealot-like (it's hard to tell a difference from that distance), but there's clearly Field Marshall shoulders present. [[User talk:Daget Sparrow|Capt. Daget J. Sparrow]] 05:54, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

== Rank ==

Nows its really confusing, Kat, Kurt and Fhajad are Lieutenant Commanders and since Kat is under Carter's command. That must mean Carter is the highest ranked SPARTAN being Commander. Am I right? [[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:Phoenix Marathon|'''  SPARTAN-A110  ''']][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Talk Archive|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Phoenix Marathon|  contribs  ]][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Guestbook|  guestbook  ]] 13:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

:Yes. Carter bears the rank of Commander. The [[Noble Team]] page already says that. Or, am I reading your sentence wrongly? I don't get what you mean. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 11:07, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

== Her arm ==

Is it possible to get Kat's arm in the armory? And if so how?[[User talk:Crushinator|Crushinator]] 04:16, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

:Yes, I've seen some people who have it, pretty sure it's Lt. Colonel but I'm only a Captian right now, so I'm not sure. Also I think you can get it for either arm, but don't quote me on that. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 10:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

::Not sure about the unlock, but yes you can get it. It's a chest piece called Assault/Sapper [R]. I'm Lt. Colonel and it is not unlocked for me yet so once again, I'm unsure. [[User talk:SomethingDifferent|SomethingDifferent]] 11:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

:::Bungie said that other armour systems and gametypes will be released in October.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|Fore]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|run]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|ner]]''''' 21:23, September 28, 2010 (UTC)''

:::

:::As of this time (10/10/12) The only way to get the arm is by modding.It may be available at a later rank but it doesn't unlock at LTC [[User talk:X Aikou x|X Aikou x]] 05:03, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

:::I have it; you can get the arm with the Breacher armor at LTC. -- [[User:Griever0311]]

:::Then why have none of my friends gotten it yet? [[User talk:X Aikou x|X Aikou x]] 05:08, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

:::Im only WOG3 but I think its possible

:::: If you don't believe me, look me up - my gamertag's Griever0311; I can show it to you, along with some other guys on my Friends. -- [[User:Griever0311]]

:::: I'm not doubting just posing a legitimate question.My buddy is a LTC1 and can't get it for some reason. [[User talk:X Aikou x|X Aikou x]] 05:17, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

::::Umm... I think I bought the regular Breacher armor first, so that might be it. -- [[User:Griever0311]]

::::Ah thank you.I'll have to tell him next time hes on. [[User talk:X Aikou x|X Aikou x]] 05:20, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

== Kat Shielded at death? ==

I know it sounds crazy, but is there a slight possibility that Catherine was still shielded? It might have been a graphics error but unless I am much mistaken, Kat's helmet is intact after her death. As it was a Needle Rifle round from an Sangheili <big>'''''CAMPER'''''</big>, Wouldn't there be a hole in her helmet? [[User:The Halfblood|Teh]] [[User_talk:The Halfblood|Halfblud]]

:[[:File:HaloReach - KatDeath.png|Did you even try reading the article?]]- [[User:Subtank|5əb'7aŋk]]([[User talk:Subtank|7alk]]) 20:59, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

::That is one gruesome image. [[User:Lucario of the Gods|Lucario of the Gods]] ([[User talk:Lucario of the Gods|talk]] 21:04, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

:::<nowiki>*Weeps*</nowiki> [[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 21:06, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

:::<nowiki>*jumps off a cliff for not looking*</nowiki> [[User:The Halfblood|The]] [[User_talk:The Halfblood|Halfbluud]]

:::There was a big hole in her helmet

== Kat's Armor Color ==

I'm trying to get a carbon copy (or as close as I can at Lt. Colonel) of Kat through the armory, but I just can't seem to get the colors right. Which one is it? [[User:KickButtUnggoy|Kick]][[User talk:KickButtUnggoy|Butt]][[Unggoy]] 17:23, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

:My brother's been trying to do that too, and he can't quite get it either. It seems to be somewhere in between Cyan and Ice, and I'd say Ice is the closer of the two. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 09:07, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

== "First glassing" ==

Thought I'd provide some insight into why I removed that trivia bit about Reach being the first glassing she'd ever witnessed. While some seem to interpret it as the first glassing she's ever seen, I thought it was a mood-lightening remark about the situation, literally meaning it's the first time she's been on the ground during a glassing. In addition, assuming she refers to never ''seeing'' a planet get glassed doesn't make much sense, as at this point, only a small area - New Alexandria - is getting glassed, instead of the whole planet. As glassing small patches of land one by one over a span of few weeks seems to be common practice for the Covenant, I find it unlikely Kat would've never seen something like that take place. Thus, it can be assumed she is referring to ''experiencing'' a glassing, not seeing one. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|Contribs]]) 15:27, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

:<s>Me too. I actually thought that line was referring to the first glassing on Reach by '''THE COVENANT''' but I agree that's it's heavily unlikely Kat could have never seen a glassing yet, seeing how involved she was during the Deliver Hope battle.</s> [[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 15:34, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Tuckerscreator, Kat must have been referring to the fact that this is the very time when Reach starts to get glassed. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 07:42, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

:I re-checked the script, Lemon. She was indeed talking about herself experiencing a glassing.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 01:21, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

:Well, kat isn't as experinced as any of the other spartans on Reach, so she probablly would'nt have seen a glassing.

== KIA'd for the world to see ==

In the final cutscene of the level New Alexandria, civilians in the radiation bunker witness the death of Kat. Is this the very first time non-UNSC or Army forces witness the death of a Spartan? As far as I know, [[ONI Directive 930]] applies to SPARTAN-IIIs as well, as [[Kurt-051]] listed Holly and Danté as MIA in [[Ghosts of Onyx]]. With these civilians watching a Spartan fall, surely the directive must have been compromised. 

Maybe these civilians were sworn to secrecy? Given the fact that Noble Team stayed in the radiation bunker with them for a full 3 days, the Spartans could have brainwashed the civvies. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 07:55, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Would the Spartans have had access to the necessary 'tools', though? A very good point you made there, but the number of civilians in the bunker wasn't exactly large, and the chances they made it off Reach aren't exactly stellar, given that Six saw the evac transports leave after 'Exodus' (and no civilians are with them when they call for the Pelican later on in the cutscene). Or maybe the civilians were, in fact, sworn to secrecy. We may never know. Someone could write to Bungie about it.[[User talk:Unnamed Individual|Unnamed Individual]] 15:47, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

:Were there civilians in the bunker? Didn't see them anywhere. That civilian dialogue subtitled was from people outside, when Carter shuts the door you clearly see that no one else has entered.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 01:24, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

:"Assuming there were civilians in the bunker, I very much doubt their "delusions" would be much of an issue. What happened on Reach was tragic, and sent many people over the edge. All they saw was a soldier, in unusual armor similar to SPI armor and Cyclops armor known to be deployed, getting killed. Mitigating circumstances would make it awfully hard for someone witnessing such large scale destruction to reliably state what they saw. As well, three days in a bunker with everything around you being destroyed is an awfully long time for those not trained for it. Post-traumatic stress disorder can easily describe such an event happening, or rather, not at all." More or less how ONI would address such... allegations. Furthermore, after such devastation... people get lost. And others, require close monitoring. [[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 01:44, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

::There were civilians in the bunker; they are present when Kat's body gets dragged in. They were already inside the radiation bunker before the Spartans entered. Some lines, like 'close the door, faster!', are said by them. Another point is that Noble Team ''did'' wear Mark V MJOLNIR armor, for your information. I'm not sure if this is of any importance, but it proves that civilians witnessed Kat getting killed. Apart from that, even more frightening than brainwashing is having to stay in a bunker with a possibly rotting corpse for 72 hours. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 04:12, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

:::I think there might be some over-analyzation here. Considering it's in the middle of a giant, civilization-spanning conflict with the very future of the species hanging in the balance, what a couple of civilians might claim is likely to be glossed over by humanity-at-large. Playing devil's advocate, though, it's not like anything can ever be ENTIRELY hushed up, anyway. I'd hope that the entirety of the UNSC would be smarter than to believe something so patently full of sh*t as "These two platoons of personnel NEVER die no matter how many times they're shot in the head or bombed."

PS: There's nothing scary about chilling around a dead body. It's dead, what's it gonna do? -- [[User:Griever0311]]

It's scary because Spartans the best the UNSC can pit against the Covenant. If these guys are brought down- if visceral proof is presented to a civilian that a Spartan has been brought down (anyone looking out from the bunker would have seen the shot and Kat's death), then the civilian will be doing three things: breathing, wetting their pants, and thinking, "I don't stand half a chance."[[User talk:Unnamed Individual|Unnamed Individual]] 04:31, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how the "invincible superman" myth could play out anyway. It doesn't matter HOW good you are at your job, random stuff happens in combat and people die, even guys that are completely sh*t-hot, like Spartans. Look at modern forces. Yeah, MARSOC, SEALS, SAS, and SBS are outstanding performers in the field, but they die just as easily as you and I do when they get shot. Apparantly that fact was forgotten over the intervening 500+ years in the Haloverse. -- [[User:Griever0311]]

Spartans have a lot more between them and harm than modern Special Forces. At the very most, modern soldiers have Kevlar body armor (unless you've got a JSLIST or EOD suit on) and any cover they've got. Spartans, on the other hand, have inches of titanium, energy shielding, a crystalline shock-absorbing layer, near-unbreakable bones, and greater muscle density than pretty much any human. Spartans are pretty much as close to invulnerable as anyone gets, being as they are less human (in a sense) than most humans, so it's not just skill standing between than whatever's out to kill them. That said, it is a bit far-fetched that people believe that they NEVER die, but the aspect of luck is pared down in Spartans, since they can actually TAKE a lot of battle damage, as opposed to avoiding it. It's easier to believe 'Spartans never die' than 'SEALs never die', but you've got a point- that they NEVER die is a real stretch.[[User talk:Unnamed Individual|Unnamed Individual]] 04:53, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I'm saying. Someone out there, somewhere, would have to say "Hmm...", when they see the casualty list full of nothing but MIA and WIA after the operation that resulted in 8 gazillion UNSC deaths and a melted planet. -- [[User:Griever0311]]

Actually, LemonSoup, I was just saying that it would actually be easy for ONI to write the entire incident off. While it all very clearly happened in front of them, there is nothing that can actually verify this to anyone else. All we have is the word of a few people. ONI could spin it that it wasn't what they thought. We know they were using MARK V armor, but it's clear that the SPARTANs can customize it, so their appearance wouldn't be consistent. And brainwashing may not even be necessary. Imagine witnessing the death of a SPARTAN, figures you were told could defeat any foe without fail. Then other SPARTANs tell you of the directive and ask you to keep quiet, if only to continue the hope. Another possibility is that there isn't anything worth mentioning. I doubt people would consistently check the reports for the death of a SPARTAN, too busy looking at the Fall of Reach. Thus, no discrepancy would be noticed. Who's to say the directive was still active after the Fall of Reach, anyway? Greatest military installation destroyed? Yeah, morale will have dropped anyway. As for the whole "They're going to die no matter what", there were only 30 of them (at least, with Halsey's statement suggesting more). While their deaths would be rather huge, there wouldn't be too many people to notice. All ONI would have to do is show their continued success without any actual details, which the SPARTANS were more than able to show. A death would occur, but ONI could gloss over that fact. That's the point, add morale. And in situations of huge tragedies, such as being systematically exterminated by a collection of alien races, humans are more likely to drop logical reasoning to hang on to hope.[[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 04:58, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

: Yes, I agree with you. I'm sure that the directive was declared false after the war, and ONI was at that moment trying to save Reach rather than uphold their directive. However, Bungie has yet to mention anything about this incident. Maybe we should let them care to explain? And Griever0311, do you think that the thoughts you are voicing out have never crossed my mind before? You need not exaggerate so much to prove your point. I did weigh the facts before considering this was something we should note. By the way, my question is still unanswered. Based on information in books and games, is Kat the first Spartan to be killed in the presence of non-UNSC or Army personnel? If it is, then we can add it to the trivia. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 08:46, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

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: The Spartans Never Die idea was created as a morale lifter. The idea was quite simply that if the civillians thought they had these invincible uber-soldiers fighting for them that they'd be alright. Also, it's entirely possible that Noble just killed the civilians to keep them quiet, after all, Spartans were created originally to deal with the insurrection. -This message by Spriggs077, a.k.a. [[User:spriggs077|Awesome]] [[User Talk:Spriggs077|Faic!]] 22:16, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

: Why is everyone assuming that any of those civilians made it off Reach alive, anyway? Given how late in the battle that mission takes place, there's a good chance that any off-world transport they might have theoretically found would have been shot down during any attempt at escaping the planet. [[User:DefiantHeretic13|DefiantHeretic13]] ([[User talk:DefiantHeretic13|talk]]) 09:52, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

==But Assaults better!==

Has anyone noticed that Kat usually prefers to use her magnum sidearm as a primary and assault rifle as a secondary? Why would she do that? Better for her fake arm? THE MAN OF QUESTIONS IS INFURIATED! [[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 00:47, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

:It seems that you are very perplexed indeed. It's just her preference, I suppose. She's also not a very aggressive front-line Spartan, even though she's part of Noble Team. Kat is more like an incredibly intelligent technician rather than a Spartan. And while you raved and ranted so passionately, you did bring up an important point- high recoil could have had negative effects on her robotic arm, thus she used a pistol instead of a rifle. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 04:23, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

::The pistol would have a higher impulse than the the assault rifle, so that's out. Simple answer? The pistol's Kat's signature weapon; everyone else has one, that's hers. -- [[User:Griever0311]]

:Everyone on Noble Team has fairly powerful weapons: Jorge and his Machine Gun, Jun and his Sniper Rifle, Emile and his Shotgun, and Carter with his DMR. Now Kat has the Magnum, just as powerful as the DMR, but lacks the range and overall damage output. Having another member with the DMR would be odd, and they needed another weapon that could be versatile, so they gave her the Assault Rifle. However, the Assault Rifle, while have pretty solid damage output, has no headshot abilities and stopping power. So she defaults to the magnum, and falls back on the Assault Rifle in various situations. Also, everyone else uses the Assault Rifle... >.> [[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 05:38, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

::Sure.[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 14:55, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

:What have you got against pistols? Try killing eight grunts on heroic with one clip of an assault rifle. Personally, I think it's just her preference, but it can't be denied that the pistol is a powerful weapon in the right hands. Just like a noob can't use a shotgun to save their life, even though it's a power weapon, maybe Kat's combat performance would be compromised by using anything else. Also, I think the DMR may be Six's weapon-of-choice, as he is seen in several cutscenes with one even though he may not have been using one at the time. Of course, the whole player-is-six thing makes that unlikely but still. -This message by Spriggs077, a.k.a. [[User:spriggs077|Awesome]] [[User Talk:Spriggs077|Faic!]] 22:20, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

::I've got nothing gainst the pistol. It just seems to make more sense to use an assault rifle against mobs of aliens than a pistol.[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 16:21, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

:As RoadtoDawn said, everyone on Noble Team has their own signature weapon and style such as Jorge being the more sensitive to civilians and has his machine gun, Jun is the insensitive sniper, Emile is the bloodthirsty shotgunner, Carter is the serious leader with his DMR even Noble Six is given the Assault Rifle as his primary weapon and Kat is the technician who like to use the pistol. She probably likes to be precise by using the pistol since it has the headshot capabilities and scope to provide one shot kills. Bungie probably still wanted to give everybody a signature weapon.[[User:Rok198|Rok198]] 03:33, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

::Noble Six's signature weapon is the MA37 because his specialty is assault. Another reason why is because the assault rifle is the most iconic weapon of the ''Halo'' series.

::I guess Bungie wanted each Noble member to have their own preferred weapon. And so, Kat uses the M6G {{UF sig}}

== Kat Dialogue ==

While browsing most downloaded films, I came across a Kat film which the description said that she giggles and says sorry. I watched this and it is true. I read on this article that she laughs at killing moa, but I guess Bungie didn't actually cut it. Did anyone else experience this? [[User talk:Color10|Color10]] 01:58, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

:They didn't cut her giggle, they just made it so that she doesn't do it when a Moa is killed. '''''[[User:Spartan-055|Captain Baird]]''''' '''[[User talk:Spartan-055|Comm-Link]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/Spartan-055|Service Record]]'' 02:08, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

:So you could mod it in?[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 16:23, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

== Gallery Image Issue ==

With the picture of Kat being killed, it is poor quality and the armor on Noble 6 has been customized. If I I'm assuming correctly, Halowiki follows the same ideals for Noble 6 in that the player is Noble 6. Therefore, that image alienates that ideal. Candidate for deletion?--[[User talk:DarkreaperSW|DarkreaperSW]] 16:37, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

If you can find a new picture, I'll support you.

== B-Company Note ==

Since Kat and Six are both from B-company, isn't it at all possible that the two already knew each other before Noble team, or at least be aware of the other's existence? There's a pretty high likelihood of the two at least meeting at one stage. -This message by Spriggs077, a.k.a. [[User:spriggs077|Awesome]] [[User Talk:Spriggs077|Faic!]] 22:23, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

in my option she's the least helpful AI in the game butthead4

I agree. Sometimes I even try to kill her.[[User talk:Luke-049|Luke-049]] 19:47, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I actually prefer to have Kat rather than Emile who stays in the back of the room with a short range shotgun and Jun has some friendly fire issues and Carter only appears twice when he isnt on a completely scripted path and always stays farther back than everyone else and fires less while Jorge and Kat actually shoot at targets while not hurting you and helping you get kills. So I prefer Kat over everyone but Jorge.

== Carter and Kat ==

I heard from numerous websites (even bungie) that carter and kat had a sexual relationship. anyone want to verify this?[[User talk:Luke-049|Master Chief]] 19:12, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hey you forgot to sign that post btw. I was wondering that to... i had someone say it could've just been a strong comradery, but I thought they just would'nt be able to have a relationship anyway, since their augmentations I think are supposed to suppress sexual drive. But I have my Kat and Carter holding eachother, just to keep me thinking ;) [[User talk:Dagoth11|Dagoth11]] 18:58, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

I doubt this. I remember reading somewhere (i forgot where but i think it was Halo: First Strike) that the SPARTANs had their sex drives completely diminished by some hormone during their augmentation. However, this is only for SPARTAN-II's. I would imagine that they kept this policy active though, I mean it would make more sense as a fall back and to ensure that non of the SPARTANs could get into OVERLY emotional relationship with one another.[[User talk:Mrbear420|Mrbear420]] 11:43, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

What about buck and dare?[[User talk:Luke-049|Master Chief]] 19:12, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Buck and Dare aren't SPARTANS :P. [[User:Serithi|Serithi]] 12:08, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I ain't no psychiatrist, but adding 2+2 together (I.e. Carter & Kat's over friendliness, Carter being quite depressive in The Package, slight flirting is LNOS?), I'd guess that they were together at some point. {{SUBST:Hlfbld Sig}} 00:07, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

but still, speculation, but what I'm thinking is, to maintain humanity side of UNSC, they made the sexual drive '''lesser, not gone completely''', so maybe, the have GF-BF relationship [[User:HeroSpartan777|HeroSpartan777]] ([[User talk:HeroSpartan777|talk]]) 15:01, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

I hate how cat was killed off so early, I also hate how short halo games have become lately, If this was my last game of a trilogy I would have pulled all the cards and even Hired help from other (and at times), better developers.

If I had made halo reach It would have been far better.(read more for MY Idea of what should have happened)

First, I would have made the characters more friendly and open with each other as( I know they are socially awkward becuase they are spartans but Kat and Carter had known each other for a LONG time so at least they should have been friends/friendly/talkative)ALL of the characters die and 9 out of 10 people felt literally nothing for any of the characters, also kat should not have been the one with a robo/prosthetic arm, I think Carter or jun were the best candidates, also I know it's never been seen in halo game before but there should have been a cool-down level or area you could go after each mission(unless another mission would immidatley follow) where you could bond and "hang out" with the other members of noble team(with a lowered or no gun of course) aswell as random conversation between members and random soldiers whom's subject should usually(60% or above) be connected with whatever mission or activity you had recently done, and cat, I think she should have had a backstory or something where if you approached her in the "hang out" time/area she would show you pictures on a tac-pad of her home planet(also after a certain mission I think you should be able to do activities with her or other members, like chess with cat, a race with emile, sniping challenge with jun, armor customising with carter(that would actually show up and stay during missions)and maybe vehicle specialising with jorge.

Plus more dialogue, I love that Russian accent of kat's XD

and I think that you should be able to customise your character's face, at or near the end (if you are a male character) I think kat should be smiling towards you alot and talking freely about her likes and dislike about life/being a(s) spartan and just becuase we don't want to make it to much like mass effect, you should be able to chose a few things you should be able to say, but not freely or all the time.

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==Weapon==

I've been anaylzing the trailer and am wondering about her weapon.  In the poster she appears to be armed only with an M6, but in the trailer I spot a rifle of some sort on her back.  From several angles (1:07, 1:10, 1:24) it looks like she has an assault rifle (based off the stock structure) but from 1:23, based off the barrel (which is notably shorter than an MA5 and bears resmemblence to the M7's barrel), this notion is contradicted.  Perhaps a carbine variant of the MA5 or an M7 with an elongated and modified stock?  Someone else care to take look at it and tell me what they think?

[[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 05:59, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

:As in the MA5K variant?
:[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/5/59/MA5K.JPG] or [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/archive/5/59/20080830204114!MA5K.JPG]
:If this is the weapon you saw it may add some credibility to the Noble team/Spartan III argument as it is the S-3's trademark weapon. --[[User talk:CiaoGamer|CiaoGamer]] 10:35, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
::Just looked at the trailer, it does look like a MA5K to me. --[[User talk:CiaoGamer|CiaoGamer]] 10:41, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

== Kelly ==

After watching the trailer I have noticed Kat,looks like Kelly in the Halo Legends episode "the package". what do you think ?--[[User talk:Heroicpotatoe|Heroicpotatoe]] 21:18, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
::I guess a little, but how is that relevent?[[User:Sith Venator|Sith-venator Wavingstrider]] [[File:ODST Crest.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|Commlink]]) 21:21, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
True, she was with other Spartans --[[User talk:Heroicpotatoe|Heroicpotatoe]] 21:25, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's impossible
for her to be kelly. Just look at her number:320. Spartan II's only went up to about 150. She is either class 2 or a spartan III.[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|FatalSnipe117]] 14:54, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't make sense for her to be Kelly. All the Spartan IIs are in their forties when Reach takes place. Kat is twenty two. Also, Kat has black hair, Kelly's is red.

[[User:Jun Liesel|Jun Liesel]] ([[User talk:Jun Liesel|talk]]) 22:12, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

== Voice Change? ==

it seems like Kat's voice changed from the reach announcement trailer to the most recent ViDoc, she had a Scandinavian accent in the announcement trailer, but seems to have a more american accent in the ViDoc, should we note this on the article? [[Special:Contributions/66.59.49.88|66.59.49.88]] 18:36, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

:I wasn't under that impression at all. She sounded exactly the same. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|'''Halo-343''']] [[User talk:Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] 19:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

It still seems different to me... [[Special:Contributions/66.59.49.88|66.59.49.88]] 19:33, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

==Pegasi Delta==

It's interesting how Jorge mentioned specifically about Noble Six surviving Pegasi Delta, yet Kat is also from Beta Company. That seems to indicate that she was removed from Beta Company before the Pegasi Delta mission. What do you think? Worthy of noting in the Trivia section? --[[User talk:Jimmy-San|Jimmy-San]] 18:18, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

This page does not include all of the available info. Kurt's transmission to Mendez from the Reach Project Page states that Kat took part in Operation: CARTWHEEL, the mission before TORPEDO, where she lost her arm. She was not sent with the rest of Beta Company. Also, Jorge was making an inside joke probably referring to how Noble 6 "was sent" and "survived" when in actual fact that was not the case. [[User talk:Littlestag|Littlestag]] 21:08, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Not to be a noob but why do I have no "edit" option for Kat's page? I want to add the material I posted above and for obvious reasons I cant. Help would be appreciated. Alternatively add it yourself. [[User talk:Littlestag|Littlestag]] 21:41, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

== Hackers ==

Anyone noticed that Catherine bears a striking resemblance to the 1995 Angelina Jolie? She's supposedly a exellent hacker, and I'm wondering if it isn't a referance to

http://zenithofhotness.com/images/angelina-jolie/hackers.jpg

== Deliever Hope Trailer ==

According to the new [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_082710# Bungie Weekly Update] the latest live trailer, ''Deliever Hope'' is before the events of ''Halo: Reach'', and it is during this battle that Kat loses her arm while the original Noble Six sacrifices himself to destroy a Covenant Convette. I would put this on her page, but yeah....--[[User talk:Juubi no Ryuu|Juubi no Ryuu]] 02:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

It was actually a cruiser, mostly likely CCS class. [[User talk:Sierra 003|Sierra 003]] 22:27, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

How do you know Thom was the original Noble Six? The only known original members of Noble Team are Carter and Kat.

There were only two noble six's. Thom and then noble six.

== Ideas for Trivia... ==

- Kat was the first Spartan to talk in the E3 2009: Reveal Trailer. Making her voice the first "Halo: Reach" Spartan voice ever heard.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14276699/halo-project/videos/haloreach_spc_rewindtheater.html

(Something like that)

thanks!

[[user:The Unbalanced Warrior|The Unbalanced Warrior]] 04:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

==Trivia==
Based on her accent as heard thus far, Kat may be of Russian or Scandanavian descent.

== Deliver Hope trailer ==

Does anyone know who plays her in the Deliver Hope trailer? [[User:LiLLiPaDDy|LiLLiPaDDy]] [[User talk:LiLLiPaDDy|~True tears are never seen, only hidden~]] 11:07, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

:A man/stunt-actor.- [[User:Subtank|5əb'7aŋk]]([[User talk:Subtank|7alk]]) 11:14, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

::Actually, Bungie made sure a woman played her to make it as realistic as possible. So yeah, some woman. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|'''Halo-343''']] [[User talk:Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] 11:17, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

:::*sigh*- [[User:Subtank|5əb'7aŋk]]([[User talk:Subtank|7alk]]) 11:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

::::[http://yfrog.com/muvrjnj We have a conspiracy on our hands!] - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|'''Halo-343''']] [[User talk:Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki>]] 21:42, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

:::::Shape-shifter! ''*gasp*'' - [[User:Subtank|5əb'7aŋk]]([[User talk:Subtank|7alk]]) 21:44, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

sigh she is canonlogicy a woman so stop saying she is a man, and i swear i'll freakin' kill anyone else who says she is a shape shifter.
 1. Sign your posts.
 2. They're talking about her "Deliver Hope" actor, not her. We all know she is a woman.
 3. The death threat was really unnecessary. [[User:Tgor365|'''Tgor''']][[User talk:Tgor365|'''365''']] 22:40, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Wow dude, grow a sense of humor. No one really thinks she's a shapeshifter or a guy. Everyone just calm down, have yourself a fish biscuit, and we'll get through this. [[User:FatalSnipe117|'''Que''']] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|'''Sera''']], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|'''Sera''']] 22:59, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

uh fish biscuit i'll have a chicken biscuit instead and yes the death threat was necessary i was trying to make a point to these morons. --[[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 19:07, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
:Leave that to the admins, why don't you. It's their job to make threats, with bans, not death, mind you.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|Fairfieldfencer]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|FFF]] 21:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Fairfield. Speaking of admins "God like65",you do know that the "morons" that you threatened were administators? They were joking around with each other and you threatened them. I assure you that both of them know that Kat is a female (which wasn't even what they were discussing). [[User:Tgor365|'''Tgor''']][[User talk:Tgor365|'''365''']] 21:49, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

woops sorry guys. --[[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 19:35, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

==Death==
Any of you guys mind putting up the details of her death? She dies running after getting out of an elevator and gets sniped from a Phantom that shot through a hole in the damaged building.

My question is, what weapon was she killed with; in Reach, the Covenant don't have any one-shot sniper weapons. My thought is perhaps a prototype Beam Rifle. [[User talk:Sierra 003|Sierra 003]] 02:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

:Actually, the beam rifle existed at least as early as 2531. It doesn't appear in ''Reach'', but it does exist in canon at that time. Either she was killed by a short burst from a focus rifle or she was killed by a beam rifle, which, of course, is not usable in-game. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 03:06, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
:Neither. Her shields were down due to the nuclear energy from the glassing. She got shot in the head with a needle rifle. [[User:FatalSnipe117|'''Que''']] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|'''Sera''']], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|'''Sera''']] 04:28, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
:Pretty sure her shields would still be up. Their shields would have been recharging by that time, or we would have seen crackling energy around her when they went down. I'm pretty sure she was shot by a needle rifle. [[User talk:WisdomThumbs|WisdomThumbs]] 01:03, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
:actually she shut off her shields because she thought they where safe and in the cutscene her shields didn't flare up when she got hit by the glass shards which they would have if she had her shields turned on. [[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 01:25, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
::But why would she shut off the shields? To save energy or something? Didn't she know she was in hostile territory? I read on YouTube that her shields were down due to an EMP, but that didn't make a lot of sense to me either. Update: in https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Kat-from-Halo-Reach-die-so-easily a user wrote "after the EMP of the Covenant plasma bombardment her shield took a long time to come back online", so maybe there was an EMP effect of the large explosion that was happening. Maybe EMPs make the armor recharge/come-back-online way slower than normal. However, when is an EMP ever mentioned or referenced in this part of the game? Text "emp" is not on this page: https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/New_Alexandria_(level). --[[User:User000name|User000name]] ([[User talk:User000name|talk]]) 06:35, January 16, 2020 (UTC)
:: Update 2: Her death is also explained in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8d4z5Zg_Bc --[[User:User000name|User000name]] ([[User talk:User000name|talk]]) 21:04, January 23, 2020 (UTC)

==Sentence Update==

''Kat's death was attributed due to her fatal lack of situational awareness. '''Like the lost of her right arm''', Kat underestimated the gravity of her situation and failed to initiated her armor's shielding system.''

Sentence could use some reworking. [[User talk:JustinSaneV2|JustinSaneV2]] 17:34, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

:-That part of the game was just to add emomtion, it was not well done nor well lthought out either. None of that scene makes sense. Nuclear Radiation and Vaccum of Space are not very different, and neither was the electromagnetism nor radiation that went out from the slipspace makeshift bomb, even if nuclear explosion might give a slightly bigger amount in shorter time. Nevertheless if the radiation is enough to overload her shields, which are to say the most important part of the armor, and most likely the most protected part, then her visor, and communications would have gone down as well just like the slipsspace bomb took down the SAT image, and as we know the visors of ODST and Spartan helmets aren't clear glass they are complicated pieces of technology designed to acquire images and feed them back on the other side of the visor.
:So in other words, if her shield went down, she would have been blind since her visor would not work, deaf for communication systems are certainly not as reinforced as shield pieces so she could not hear anything outside her helmet, and mute, because she could not talk on the way down of the elevator.
:In the end it was bad story telling, the best way to kill someone so talented, is from a pop shot, but the execution of such idea was very poorly done by Bungie. Is like saying, a nuclear explosion fries the systems of every military hardware within its radius but leaves intact and working a video camera and a walkie talkie... just doesn't make sense.
:Good idea, poor execution.
:[[User talk:Spartas Maximus|Spartas Maximus]] 20:32, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Shields go down all the time, after they get shot enough. The power was still there, just not the shield, or else they would have been unable to move the suit at all.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 20:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I got the feeling that Kat was meant to be helmetless at the time. However it may have been too graphic and affected the rating. It doesn't make sense, shield or no, to me as the armour should be tough enough to take/deflect a needle shard.

It would make more sense that the radiation would have disabled her shields similar to a plasma pistol shot and left the other systams working. if there was enough radiation to permenetly damage her armor, then she, Jun, and Carter would likely have been hurt by the radiaiton blast as they weren't wearing their helmets during most of the scene. Orginally planning on her not wearing a helmet during the scene is a good thought because, if I'm not mistaken, according to the books, Spartan helmets can take headshots. [[User:Johnskee218|Johnskee218]] ([[User talk:Johnskee218|talk]]) 18:26, August 29, 2012 (UTC)

== Sniper ==

The page says that the sniper that shot her was an Elite. After seeing the cutscene a few times I couldn't tell what shot her. I'm not saying it wasn't an Elite, just wondering if someone can prove it. Also, if it was, what rank of Elite was it, just out of curiosity. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:00, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

:It's extrapolation. Elites are typically the ones who hold Needle Rifles.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 15:03, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

::Fair enough, and I'd much rather it have been an Elite than a Skirmisher :P [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:41, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

The shape of the silhouette appears to be an Elite and the armor glow is gold, like that of a General.
:-- [[User:Donut THX 1138|Donut THX 1138]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |Comm]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> 22:45, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
:I think it was a Zealot. I watched the scene also. My confirmed opinion is a Zealot. The Magenta color and blue outline in my view. -- TheRookie09

I've reviewed the cutscene a few times over. It's a Field Marshall that kills Kat-true, the helmet's Zealot-like (it's hard to tell a difference from that distance), but there's clearly Field Marshall shoulders present. [[User talk:Daget Sparrow|Capt. Daget J. Sparrow]] 05:54, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

== Rank ==

Nows its really confusing, Kat, Kurt and Fhajad are Lieutenant Commanders and since Kat is under Carter's command. That must mean Carter is the highest ranked SPARTAN being Commander. Am I right? [[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:Phoenix Marathon|'''&nbsp;&nbsp;SPARTAN-A110&nbsp;&nbsp;''']][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Talk Archive|&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;]][[Special:Contributions/Phoenix Marathon|&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;]][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Guestbook|&nbsp;&nbsp;guestbook&nbsp;&nbsp;]] 13:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Carter bears the rank of Commander. The [[Noble Team]] page already says that. Or, am I reading your sentence wrongly? I don't get what you mean. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 11:07, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

== Her arm ==

Is it possible to get Kat's arm in the armory? And if so how?[[User talk:Crushinator|Crushinator]] 04:16, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

:Yes, I've seen some people who have it, pretty sure it's Lt. Colonel but I'm only a Captian right now, so I'm not sure. Also I think you can get it for either arm, but don't quote me on that. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 10:35, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

::Not sure about the unlock, but yes you can get it. It's a chest piece called Assault/Sapper [R]. I'm Lt. Colonel and it is not unlocked for me yet so once again, I'm unsure. [[User talk:SomethingDifferent|SomethingDifferent]] 11:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

:::Bungie said that other armour systems and gametypes will be released in October.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|Fore]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|run]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|ner]]''''' 21:23, September 28, 2010 (UTC)''
:::
:::As of this time (10/10/12) The only way to get the arm is by modding.It may be available at a later rank but it doesn't unlock at LTC [[User talk:X Aikou x|X Aikou x]] 05:03, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
:::I have it; you can get the arm with the Breacher armor at LTC. -- [[User:Griever0311]]
:::Then why have none of my friends gotten it yet? [[User talk:X Aikou x|X Aikou x]] 05:08, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
:::Im only WOG3 but I think its possible
:::: If you don't believe me, look me up - my gamertag's Griever0311; I can show it to you, along with some other guys on my Friends. -- [[User:Griever0311]]
:::: I'm not doubting just posing a legitimate question.My buddy is a LTC1 and can't get it for some reason. [[User talk:X Aikou x|X Aikou x]] 05:17, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
::::Umm... I think I bought the regular Breacher armor first, so that might be it. -- [[User:Griever0311]]
::::Ah thank you.I'll have to tell him next time hes on. [[User talk:X Aikou x|X Aikou x]] 05:20, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

== Kat Shielded at death? ==

I know it sounds crazy, but is there a slight possibility that Catherine was still shielded? It might have been a graphics error but unless I am much mistaken, Kat's helmet is intact after her death. As it was a Needle Rifle round from an Sangheili <big>'''''CAMPER'''''</big>, Wouldn't there be a hole in her helmet? [[User:The Halfblood|Teh]] [[User_talk:The Halfblood|Halfblud]]

:[[:File:HaloReach - KatDeath.png|Did you even try reading the article?]]- [[User:Subtank|5əb'7aŋk]]([[User talk:Subtank|7alk]]) 20:59, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

::That is one gruesome image. [[User:Lucario of the Gods|Lucario of the Gods]] ([[User talk:Lucario of the Gods|talk]] 21:04, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

:::<nowiki>*Weeps*</nowiki> [[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 21:06, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>*jumps off a cliff for not looking*</nowiki> [[User:The Halfblood|The]] [[User_talk:The Halfblood|Halfbluud]]
:::There was a big hole in her helmet

== Kat's Armor Color ==

I'm trying to get a carbon copy (or as close as I can at Lt. Colonel) of Kat through the armory, but I just can't seem to get the colors right. Which one is it? [[User:KickButtUnggoy|Kick]][[User talk:KickButtUnggoy|Butt]][[Unggoy]] 17:23, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

:My brother's been trying to do that too, and he can't quite get it either. It seems to be somewhere in between Cyan and Ice, and I'd say Ice is the closer of the two. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 09:07, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

== "First glassing" ==

Thought I'd provide some insight into why I removed that trivia bit about Reach being the first glassing she'd ever witnessed. While some seem to interpret it as the first glassing she's ever seen, I thought it was a mood-lightening remark about the situation, literally meaning it's the first time she's been on the ground during a glassing. In addition, assuming she refers to never ''seeing'' a planet get glassed doesn't make much sense, as at this point, only a small area - New Alexandria - is getting glassed, instead of the whole planet. As glassing small patches of land one by one over a span of few weeks seems to be common practice for the Covenant, I find it unlikely Kat would've never seen something like that take place. Thus, it can be assumed she is referring to ''experiencing'' a glassing, not seeing one. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|Contribs]]) 15:27, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

:<s>Me too. I actually thought that line was referring to the first glassing on Reach by '''THE COVENANT''' but I agree that's it's heavily unlikely Kat could have never seen a glassing yet, seeing how involved she was during the Deliver Hope battle.</s> [[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 15:34, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Tuckerscreator, Kat must have been referring to the fact that this is the very time when Reach starts to get glassed. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 07:42, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

:I re-checked the script, Lemon. She was indeed talking about herself experiencing a glassing.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 01:21, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
:Well, kat isn't as experinced as any of the other spartans on Reach, so she probablly would'nt have seen a glassing.

== KIA'd for the world to see ==

In the final cutscene of the level New Alexandria, civilians in the radiation bunker witness the death of Kat. Is this the very first time non-UNSC or Army forces witness the death of a Spartan? As far as I know, [[ONI Directive 930]] applies to SPARTAN-IIIs as well, as [[Kurt-051]] listed Holly and Danté as MIA in [[Ghosts of Onyx]]. With these civilians watching a Spartan fall, surely the directive must have been compromised. 
Maybe these civilians were sworn to secrecy? Given the fact that Noble Team stayed in the radiation bunker with them for a full 3 days, the Spartans could have brainwashed the civvies. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 07:55, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Would the Spartans have had access to the necessary 'tools', though? A very good point you made there, but the number of civilians in the bunker wasn't exactly large, and the chances they made it off Reach aren't exactly stellar, given that Six saw the evac transports leave after 'Exodus' (and no civilians are with them when they call for the Pelican later on in the cutscene). Or maybe the civilians were, in fact, sworn to secrecy. We may never know. Someone could write to Bungie about it.[[User talk:Unnamed Individual|Unnamed Individual]] 15:47, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

:Were there civilians in the bunker? Didn't see them anywhere. That civilian dialogue subtitled was from people outside, when Carter shuts the door you clearly see that no one else has entered.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''''Tuckerscreator''''']]([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|stalk]]) 01:24, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

:"Assuming there were civilians in the bunker, I very much doubt their "delusions" would be much of an issue. What happened on Reach was tragic, and sent many people over the edge. All they saw was a soldier, in unusual armor similar to SPI armor and Cyclops armor known to be deployed, getting killed. Mitigating circumstances would make it awfully hard for someone witnessing such large scale destruction to reliably state what they saw. As well, three days in a bunker with everything around you being destroyed is an awfully long time for those not trained for it. Post-traumatic stress disorder can easily describe such an event happening, or rather, not at all." More or less how ONI would address such... allegations. Furthermore, after such devastation... people get lost. And others, require close monitoring. [[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 01:44, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

::There were civilians in the bunker; they are present when Kat's body gets dragged in. They were already inside the radiation bunker before the Spartans entered. Some lines, like 'close the door, faster!', are said by them. Another point is that Noble Team ''did'' wear Mark V MJOLNIR armor, for your information. I'm not sure if this is of any importance, but it proves that civilians witnessed Kat getting killed. Apart from that, even more frightening than brainwashing is having to stay in a bunker with a possibly rotting corpse for 72 hours. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 04:12, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

:::I think there might be some over-analyzation here. Considering it's in the middle of a giant, civilization-spanning conflict with the very future of the species hanging in the balance, what a couple of civilians might claim is likely to be glossed over by humanity-at-large. Playing devil's advocate, though, it's not like anything can ever be ENTIRELY hushed up, anyway. I'd hope that the entirety of the UNSC would be smarter than to believe something so patently full of sh*t as "These two platoons of personnel NEVER die no matter how many times they're shot in the head or bombed."

PS: There's nothing scary about chilling around a dead body. It's dead, what's it gonna do? -- [[User:Griever0311]]

It's scary because Spartans the best the UNSC can pit against the Covenant. If these guys are brought down- if visceral proof is presented to a civilian that a Spartan has been brought down (anyone looking out from the bunker would have seen the shot and Kat's death), then the civilian will be doing three things: breathing, wetting their pants, and thinking, "I don't stand half a chance."[[User talk:Unnamed Individual|Unnamed Individual]] 04:31, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how the "invincible superman" myth could play out anyway. It doesn't matter HOW good you are at your job, random stuff happens in combat and people die, even guys that are completely sh*t-hot, like Spartans. Look at modern forces. Yeah, MARSOC, SEALS, SAS, and SBS are outstanding performers in the field, but they die just as easily as you and I do when they get shot. Apparantly that fact was forgotten over the intervening 500+ years in the Haloverse. -- [[User:Griever0311]]

Spartans have a lot more between them and harm than modern Special Forces. At the very most, modern soldiers have Kevlar body armor (unless you've got a JSLIST or EOD suit on) and any cover they've got. Spartans, on the other hand, have inches of titanium, energy shielding, a crystalline shock-absorbing layer, near-unbreakable bones, and greater muscle density than pretty much any human. Spartans are pretty much as close to invulnerable as anyone gets, being as they are less human (in a sense) than most humans, so it's not just skill standing between than whatever's out to kill them. That said, it is a bit far-fetched that people believe that they NEVER die, but the aspect of luck is pared down in Spartans, since they can actually TAKE a lot of battle damage, as opposed to avoiding it. It's easier to believe 'Spartans never die' than 'SEALs never die', but you've got a point- that they NEVER die is a real stretch.[[User talk:Unnamed Individual|Unnamed Individual]] 04:53, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I'm saying. Someone out there, somewhere, would have to say "Hmm...", when they see the casualty list full of nothing but MIA and WIA after the operation that resulted in 8 gazillion UNSC deaths and a melted planet. -- [[User:Griever0311]]

Actually, LemonSoup, I was just saying that it would actually be easy for ONI to write the entire incident off. While it all very clearly happened in front of them, there is nothing that can actually verify this to anyone else. All we have is the word of a few people. ONI could spin it that it wasn't what they thought. We know they were using MARK V armor, but it's clear that the SPARTANs can customize it, so their appearance wouldn't be consistent. And brainwashing may not even be necessary. Imagine witnessing the death of a SPARTAN, figures you were told could defeat any foe without fail. Then other SPARTANs tell you of the directive and ask you to keep quiet, if only to continue the hope. Another possibility is that there isn't anything worth mentioning. I doubt people would consistently check the reports for the death of a SPARTAN, too busy looking at the Fall of Reach. Thus, no discrepancy would be noticed. Who's to say the directive was still active after the Fall of Reach, anyway? Greatest military installation destroyed? Yeah, morale will have dropped anyway. As for the whole "They're going to die no matter what", there were only 30 of them (at least, with Halsey's statement suggesting more). While their deaths would be rather huge, there wouldn't be too many people to notice. All ONI would have to do is show their continued success without any actual details, which the SPARTANS were more than able to show. A death would occur, but ONI could gloss over that fact. That's the point, add morale. And in situations of huge tragedies, such as being systematically exterminated by a collection of alien races, humans are more likely to drop logical reasoning to hang on to hope.[[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 04:58, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

: Yes, I agree with you. I'm sure that the directive was declared false after the war, and ONI was at that moment trying to save Reach rather than uphold their directive. However, Bungie has yet to mention anything about this incident. Maybe we should let them care to explain? And Griever0311, do you think that the thoughts you are voicing out have never crossed my mind before? You need not exaggerate so much to prove your point. I did weigh the facts before considering this was something we should note. By the way, my question is still unanswered. Based on information in books and games, is Kat the first Spartan to be killed in the presence of non-UNSC or Army personnel? If it is, then we can add it to the trivia. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 08:46, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
:
: The Spartans Never Die idea was created as a morale lifter. The idea was quite simply that if the civillians thought they had these invincible uber-soldiers fighting for them that they'd be alright. Also, it's entirely possible that Noble just killed the civilians to keep them quiet, after all, Spartans were created originally to deal with the insurrection. -This message by Spriggs077, a.k.a. [[User:spriggs077|Awesome]] [[User Talk:Spriggs077|Faic!]] 22:16, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

: Why is everyone assuming that any of those civilians made it off Reach alive, anyway?  Given how late in the battle that mission takes place, there's a good chance that any off-world transport they might have theoretically found would have been shot down during any attempt at escaping the planet. [[User:DefiantHeretic13|DefiantHeretic13]] ([[User talk:DefiantHeretic13|talk]]) 09:52, September 19, 2014 (UTC)

==But Assaults better!==
Has anyone noticed that Kat usually prefers to use her magnum sidearm as a primary and assault rifle as a secondary? Why would she do that? Better for her fake arm? THE MAN OF QUESTIONS IS INFURIATED! [[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 00:47, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

:It seems that you are very perplexed indeed. It's just her preference, I suppose. She's also not a very aggressive front-line Spartan, even though she's part of Noble Team. Kat is more like an incredibly intelligent technician rather than a Spartan. And while you raved and ranted so passionately, you did bring up an important point- high recoil could have had negative effects on her robotic arm, thus she used a pistol instead of a rifle. --[[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]][[User:SolidLemonsoup|'''Mmm... Jackal Stew''']] 04:23, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

::The pistol would have a higher impulse than the the assault rifle, so that's out. Simple answer? The pistol's Kat's signature weapon; everyone else has one, that's hers. -- [[User:Griever0311]]

:Everyone on Noble Team has fairly powerful weapons: Jorge and his Machine Gun, Jun and his Sniper Rifle, Emile and his Shotgun, and Carter with his DMR. Now Kat has the Magnum, just as powerful as the DMR, but lacks the range and overall damage output. Having another member with the DMR would be odd, and they needed another weapon that could be versatile, so they gave her the Assault Rifle. However, the Assault Rifle, while have pretty solid damage output, has no headshot abilities and stopping power. So she defaults to the magnum, and falls back on the Assault Rifle in various situations. Also, everyone else uses the Assault Rifle... >.> [[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 05:38, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

::Sure.[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 14:55, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

:What have you got against pistols? Try killing eight grunts on heroic with one clip of an assault rifle. Personally, I think it's just her preference, but it can't be denied that the pistol is a powerful weapon in the right hands. Just like a noob can't use a shotgun to save their life, even though it's a power weapon, maybe Kat's combat performance would be compromised by using anything else. Also, I think the DMR may be Six's weapon-of-choice, as he is seen in several cutscenes with one even though he may not have been using one at the time. Of course, the whole player-is-six thing makes that unlikely but still. -This message by Spriggs077, a.k.a. [[User:spriggs077|Awesome]] [[User Talk:Spriggs077|Faic!]] 22:20, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

::I've got nothing gainst the pistol. It just seems to make more sense to use an assault rifle against mobs of aliens than a pistol.[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 16:21, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

:As RoadtoDawn said, everyone on Noble Team has their own signature weapon and style such as Jorge being the more sensitive to civilians and has his machine gun, Jun is the insensitive sniper, Emile is the bloodthirsty shotgunner, Carter is the serious leader with his DMR even Noble Six is given the Assault Rifle as his primary weapon and Kat is the technician who like to use the pistol. She probably likes to be precise by using the pistol since it has the headshot capabilities and scope to provide one shot kills. Bungie probably still wanted to give everybody a signature weapon.[[User:Rok198|Rok198]] 03:33, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

::Noble Six's signature weapon is the MA37 because his specialty is assault. Another reason why is because the assault rifle is the most iconic weapon of the ''Halo'' series.

::I guess Bungie wanted each Noble member to have their own preferred weapon. And so, Kat uses the M6G {{UF sig}}

== Kat Dialogue ==

While browsing most downloaded films, I came across a Kat film which the description said that she giggles and says sorry. I watched this and it is true. I read on this article that she laughs at killing moa, but I guess Bungie didn't actually cut it. Did anyone else experience this? [[User talk:Color10|Color10]] 01:58, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

:They didn't cut her giggle, they just made it so that she doesn't do it when a Moa is killed. '''''[[User:Spartan-055|Captain Baird]]''''' '''[[User talk:Spartan-055|Comm-Link]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/Spartan-055|Service Record]]'' 02:08, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
:So you could mod it in?[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 16:23, April 17, 2011 (UTC)

== Gallery Image Issue ==

With the picture of Kat being killed, it is poor quality and the armor on Noble 6 has been customized. If I I'm assuming correctly, Halowiki follows the same ideals for Noble 6 in that the player is Noble 6. Therefore, that image alienates that ideal. Candidate for deletion?--[[User talk:DarkreaperSW|DarkreaperSW]] 16:37, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

If you can find a new picture, I'll support you.

== B-Company Note ==

Since Kat and Six are both from B-company, isn't it at all possible that the two already knew each other before Noble team, or at least be aware of the other's existence? There's a pretty high likelihood of the two at least meeting at one stage. -This message by Spriggs077, a.k.a. [[User:spriggs077|Awesome]] [[User Talk:Spriggs077|Faic!]] 22:23, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

in my option she's the least helpful AI in the game butthead4

I agree. Sometimes I even try to kill her.[[User talk:Luke-049|Luke-049]] 19:47, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

I actually prefer to have Kat rather than Emile who stays in the back of the room with a short range shotgun and Jun has some friendly fire issues and Carter only appears twice when he isnt on a completely scripted path and always stays farther back than everyone else and fires less while Jorge and Kat actually shoot at targets while not hurting you and helping you get kills. So I prefer Kat over everyone but Jorge.

== Carter and Kat ==

I heard from numerous websites (even bungie) that carter and kat had a sexual relationship. anyone want to verify this?[[User talk:Luke-049|Master Chief]] 19:12, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Hey you forgot to sign that post btw. I was wondering that to... i had someone say it could've just been a strong comradery, but I thought they just would'nt be able to have a relationship anyway, since their augmentations I think are supposed to suppress sexual drive. But I have my Kat and Carter holding eachother, just to keep me thinking ;) [[User talk:Dagoth11|Dagoth11]] 18:58, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

I doubt this. I remember reading somewhere (i forgot where but i think it was Halo: First Strike) that the SPARTANs had their sex drives completely diminished by some hormone during their augmentation. However, this is only for SPARTAN-II's. I would imagine that they kept this policy active though, I mean it would make more sense as a fall back and to ensure that non of the SPARTANs could get into OVERLY emotional relationship with one another.[[User talk:Mrbear420|Mrbear420]] 11:43, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

What about buck and dare?[[User talk:Luke-049|Master Chief]] 19:12, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Buck and Dare aren't SPARTANS :P. [[User:Serithi|Serithi]] 12:08, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

I ain't no psychiatrist, but adding 2+2 together (I.e. Carter & Kat's over friendliness, Carter being quite depressive in The Package, slight flirting is LNOS?), I'd guess that they were together at some point. {{SUBST:Hlfbld Sig}} 00:07, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

but still, speculation, but what I'm thinking is, to maintain humanity side of UNSC, they made the sexual drive '''lesser, not gone completely''', so maybe, the have GF-BF relationship [[User:HeroSpartan777|HeroSpartan777]] ([[User talk:HeroSpartan777|talk]]) 15:01, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

I hate how cat was killed off so early, I also hate how short halo games have become lately, If this was my last game of a trilogy I would have pulled all the cards and even Hired help from other (and at times), better developers.

If I had made halo reach It would have been far better.(read more for MY Idea of what should have happened)

First, I would have made the characters more friendly and open with each other as( I know they are socially awkward becuase they are spartans but Kat and Carter had known each other for a LONG time so at least they should have been friends/friendly/talkative)ALL of the characters die and 9 out of 10 people felt literally nothing for any of the characters, also kat should not have been the one with a robo/prosthetic arm, I think Carter or jun were the best candidates, also I know it's never been seen in halo game before but there should have been a cool-down level or area you could go after each mission(unless another mission would immidatley follow) where you could bond and "hang out" with the other members of noble team(with a lowered or no gun of course) aswell as random conversation between members and random soldiers whom's subject should usually(60% or above) be connected with whatever mission or activity you had recently done, and cat, I think she should have had a backstory or something where if you approached her in the "hang out" time/area she would show you pictures on a tac-pad of her home planet(also after a certain mission I think you should be able to do activities with her or other members, like chess with cat, a race with emile, sniping challenge with jun, armor customising with carter(that would actually show up and stay during missions)and maybe vehicle specialising with jorge.

Plus more dialogue, I love that Russian accent of kat's XD

and I think that you should be able to customise your character's face, at or near the end (if you are a male character) I think kat should be smiling towards you alot and talking freely about her likes and dislike about life/being a(s) spartan and just becuase we don't want to make it to much like mass effect, you should be able to chose a few things you should be able to say, but not freely or all the time.

  
http://halo.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Catherine-B320--->==Weapon== I've been anaylzing the trailer and am wondering about her weapon.  In the poster she appears to be armed only with an M6, but in the trailer I spot a rifle of some sort on her back.  From several angles (1:07, 1:10, 1:24) it looks like she has an assault rifle (based off the stock structure) but from 1:23, based off the barrel (which is notably shorter than an MA5 and bears resmemblence to the M7's barrel), this notion is contradicted.  Perhaps a carbine variant of the MA5 or an M7 with an elongated and modified stock?  Someone else care to take look at it and tell me what they think? [[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 05:59, December 14, 2009 (UTC) :As in the MA5K variant?:[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/5/59/MA5K.JPG] or [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/archive/5/59/20080830204114!MA5K.JPG]:If this is the weapon you saw it may add some credibility to the Noble team/Spartan III argument as it is the S-3's trademark weapon. --[[User talk:CiaoGamer|CiaoGamer]] 10:35, December 14, 2009 (UTC)::Just looked at the trailer, it does look like a MA5K to me. --[[User talk:CiaoGamer|CiaoGamer]] 10:41, December 14, 2009 (UTC) == Kelly == After watching the trailer I have noticed Kat,looks like Kelly in the Halo Legends episode "the package". what do you think ?--[[User talk:Heroicpotatoe|Heroicpotatoe]] 21:18, December 16, 2009 (UTC)::I guess a little, but how is that relevent?[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:ODST Crest.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 21:21, December 16, 2009 (UTC)True, she was with other Spartans --[[User talk:Heroicpotatoe|Heroicpotatoe]] 21:25, December 16, 2009 (UTC) I think it's impossiblefor her to be kelly. Just look at her number:320. Spartan II's only went up to about 150. She is either class 2 or a spartan III.[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|FatalSnipe117]] 14:54, December 28, 2009 (UTC)   It doesn't make sense for her to be Kelly. All the Spartan IIs are in their forties when Reach takes place. Kat is twenty two. Also, Kat has black hair, Kelly's is red. [[User:Jun Liesel|Jun Liesel]] ([[User talk:Jun Liesel|talk]]) 22:12, August 12, 2013 (UTC) == Voice Change? == it seems like Kat's voice changed from the reach announcement trailer to the most recent ViDoc, she had a Scandinavian accent in the announcement trailer, but seems to have a more american accent in the ViDoc, should we note this on the article? [[Special:Contributions/66.59.49.88|66.59.49.88]] 18:36, March 4, 2010 (UTC) :I wasn't under that impression at all. She sounded exactly the same. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 19:29, March 4, 2010 (UTC) It still seems different to me... [[Special:Contributions/66.59.49.88|66.59.49.88]] 19:33, March 5, 2010 (UTC) ==Pegasi Delta== It's interesting how Jorge mentioned specifically about Noble Six surviving Pegasi Delta, yet Kat is also from Beta Company. That seems to indicate that she was removed from Beta Company before the Pegasi Delta mission. What do you think? Worthy of noting in the Trivia section? --[[User talk:Jimmy-San|Jimmy-San]] 18:18, May 1, 2010 (UTC) This page does not include all of the available info. Kurt's transmission to Mendez from the Reach Project Page states that Kat took part in Operation: CARTWHEEL, the mission before TORPEDO, where she lost her arm. She was not sent with the rest of Beta Company. Also, Jorge was making an inside joke probably referring to how Noble 6 "was sent" and "survived" when in actual fact that was not the case. [[User talk:Littlestag|Littlestag]] 21:08, July 12, 2010 (UTC) Not to be a noob but why do I have no "edit" option for Kat's page? I want to add the material I posted above and for obvious reasons I cant. Help would be appreciated. Alternatively add it yourself. [[User talk:Littlestag|Littlestag]] 21:41, July 12, 2010 (UTC) == Hackers == Anyone noticed that Catherine bears a striking resemblance to the 1995 Angelina Jolie? She's supposedly a exellent hacker, and I'm wondering if it isn't a referance to  http://zenithofhotness.com/images/angelina-jolie/hackers.jpg == Deliever Hope Trailer == According to the new [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_082710# Bungie Weekly Update] the latest live trailer, ''Deliever Hope'' is before the events of ''Halo: Reach'', and it is during this battle that Kat loses her arm while the original Noble Six sacrifices himself to destroy a Covenant Convette. I would put this on her page, but yeah....--[[User talk:Juubi no Ryuu|Juubi no Ryuu]] 02:22, August 28, 2010 (UTC) It was actually a cruiser, mostly likely CCS class. [[User talk:Sierra 003|Sierra 003]] 22:27, September 2, 2010 (UTC) How do you know Thom was the original Noble Six? The only known original members of Noble Team are Carter and Kat. There were only two noble six's. Thom and then noble six. == Ideas for Trivia... ==    - Kat was the first Spartan to talk in the E3 2009: Reveal Trailer. Making her voice the first "Halo: Reach" Spartan voice ever heard. http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14276699/halo-project/videos/haloreach_spc_rewindtheater.html (Something like that) thanks! [[user:The Unbalanced Warrior|The Unbalanced Warrior]] 04:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC) ==Trivia==Based on her accent as heard thus far, Kat may be of Russian or Scandanavian descent. == Deliver Hope trailer == Does anyone know who plays her in the Deliver Hope trailer? [[User:LiLLiPaDDy|<span style="color:purple">LiLLiPaDDy</span>]] [[User talk:LiLLiPaDDy|<span style="color:blue">~True tears are never seen, only hidden~</span>]] 11:07, September 5, 2010 (UTC) :A man/stunt-actor.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 11:14, September 5, 2010 (UTC) ::Actually, Bungie made sure a woman played her to make it as realistic as possible. So yeah, some woman. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 11:17, September 5, 2010 (UTC) :::*sigh*- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 11:23, September 5, 2010 (UTC) ::::[http://yfrog.com/muvrjnj We have a conspiracy on our hands!] - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 21:42, September 6, 2010 (UTC) :::::Shape-shifter! ''*gasp*'' - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:44, September 6, 2010 (UTC) sigh she is canonlogicy a woman so stop saying she is a man, and i swear i'll freakin' kill anyone else who says she is a shape shifter.     1. Sign your posts.     2. They're talking about her "Deliver Hope" actor, not her. We all know she is a woman.     3. The death threat was really unnecessary. [[User:Tgor365|<span style="color:red">'''Tgor'''</span>]][[User talk:Tgor365|<span style="color:blue">'''365'''</span>]] 22:40, September 6, 2010 (UTC) Wow dude, grow a sense of humor. No one really thinks she's a shapeshifter or a guy. Everyone just calm down, have yourself a fish biscuit, and we'll get through this. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:purple">'''Que'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:red">'''Sera'''</span>]], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:orange">'''Sera'''</span>]] 22:59, September 6, 2010 (UTC) uh fish biscuit i'll have a chicken biscuit instead and yes the death threat was necessary i was trying to make a point to these morons. --[[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 19:07, September 11, 2010 (UTC):Leave that to the admins, why don't you. It's their job to make threats, with bans, not death, mind you.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 21:37, September 11, 2010 (UTC)Thank you Fairfield. Speaking of admins "God like65",you do know that the "morons" that you threatened were administators? They were joking around with each other and you threatened them. I assure you that both of them know that Kat is a female (which wasn't even what they were discussing). [[User:Tgor365|<span style="color:red">'''Tgor'''</span>]][[User talk:Tgor365|<span style="color:blue">'''365'''</span>]] 21:49, September 11, 2010 (UTC) woops sorry guys. --[[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 19:35, September 12, 2010 (UTC) ==Death==Any of you guys mind putting up the details of her death? She dies running after getting out of an elevator and gets sniped from a Phantom that shot through a hole in the damaged building. My question is, what weapon was she killed with; in Reach, the Covenant don't have any one-shot sniper weapons. My thought is perhaps a prototype Beam Rifle. [[User talk:Sierra 003|Sierra 003]] 02:55, September 15, 2010 (UTC) :Actually, the beam rifle existed at least as early as 2531. It doesn't appear in ''Reach'', but it does exist in canon at that time. Either she was killed by a short burst from a focus rifle or she was killed by a beam rifle, which, of course, is not usable in-game. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 03:06, September 15, 2010 (UTC):Neither. Her shields were down due to the nuclear energy from the glassing. She got shot in the head with a needle rifle. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:purple">'''Que'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:red">'''Sera'''</span>]], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:orange">'''Sera'''</span>]] 04:28, September 15, 2010 (UTC):Pretty sure her shields would still be up. Their shields would have been recharging by that time, or we would have seen crackling energy around her when they went down. I'm pretty sure she was shot by a needle rifle. [[User talk:WisdomThumbs|WisdomThumbs]] 01:03, October 4, 2010 (UTC):actually she shut off her shields because she thought they where safe and in the cutscene her shields didn't flare up when she got hit by the glass shards which they would have if she had her shields turned on. [[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 01:25, October 7, 2010 (UTC)::But why would she shut off the shields? To save energy or something? Didn't she know she was in hostile territory? I read on YouTube that her shields were down due to an EMP, but that didn't make a lot of sense to me either. Update: in https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Kat-from-Halo-Reach-die-so-easily a user wrote "after the EMP of the Covenant plasma bombardment her shield took a long time to come back online", so maybe there was an EMP effect of the large explosion that was happening. Maybe EMPs make the armor recharge/come-back-online way slower than normal. However, when is an EMP ever mentioned or referenced in this part of the game? Text "emp" is not on this page: https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/New_Alexandria_(level). --[[User:User000name|User000name]] ([[User talk:User000name|talk]]) 06:35, January 16, 2020 (UTC):: Update 2: Her death is also explained in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8d4z5Zg_Bc --[[User:User000name|User000name]] ([[User talk:User000name|talk]]) 21:04, January 23, 2020 (UTC) ==Sentence Update== ''Kat's death was attributed due to her fatal lack of situational awareness. '''Like the lost of her right arm''', Kat underestimated the gravity of her situation and failed to initiated her armor's shielding system.''

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