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Aris Roussinos
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Aris RoussinosVerified account

@arisroussinos

War reporter turned IR PhD student, aspiring shepherd. Interests: nationalism, ethnic conflict & revolution in theory & practice. Author of REBELS (2014)

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  1. Aris Roussinos‏Verified account @arisroussinos 14h14 hours ago

    Aris Roussinos Retweeted Shadi Hamid

    Which Syrians? Very few supporters of either Assad or the PYD would relish rule by the warlords now in control of much of northern Syria, which is what this policy amounts to. Comparisons between Syria & Libya are almost meaningless in any case: the faultlines are so differenthttps://twitter.com/shadihamid/status/1216779646173425664…

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    Shadi HamidVerified account @shadihamid
    Yes, we hear people talking about how bad Libya is (understandably). Yet for Syrians, a Libya scenario would have have a Godsend. Most importantly it would have saved lives and given them a fighting chance, something they might not have again for decades to come https://twitter.com/tahabito/status/1216749506051612672 …
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  2. Shadi Hamid‏Verified account @shadihamid 14h14 hours ago
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    Libya scenario in the sense of having direct US military action against Assad. By Libya scenario, I'm referring to the intervention but also the aftermath of intervention, as I lay out here in more detail:https://www.vox.com/2016/4/5/11363288/libya-intervention-success…

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  3. Aris Roussinos‏Verified account @arisroussinos 14h14 hours ago
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    I’ve read it- at the time as well- and disagree with your argument for multiple reasons

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  4. Shadi Hamid‏Verified account @shadihamid 14h14 hours ago
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    well, that's fine. we don't need to agree :) but that's what I mean by Libya scenario

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    Aris Roussinos‏Verified account @arisroussinos
    Replying to @shadihamid

    Who would you have replaced Assad with in this scenario? How would you have prevented the ethnic & sectarian divisions which Syria possesses but Libya does not spiralling into a post-intervention conflict which the US would now own?

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      2. Shadi Hamid‏Verified account @shadihamid 13h13 hours ago
        Replying to @arisroussinos

        Syria already has ethnic and sectarian divisions. It's unclear to me why "preventing" them would have needed to be a goal of US policy

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      3. Aris Roussinos‏Verified account @arisroussinos 13h13 hours ago
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        If you reread the question, the goal would be preventing those pre-existing divisions spiralling into an ethnic/sectarian conflict after the US has assumed responsibility for the country

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      2. Rasha Al Aqeedi‏Verified account @RashaAlAqeedi 13h13 hours ago
        Replying to @arisroussinos @shadihamid

        Likely someone he hadn't yet killed?

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      3. Aris Roussinos‏Verified account @arisroussinos 13h13 hours ago
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        Very obviously, the question means "what government imposed by US force of arms would be sufficiently regarded as legitimate by opponents of the rebels (not solely supporters of the regime) to avoid continued conflict the US would be obliged to quell?"

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      2. Shadi Hamid‏Verified account @shadihamid 13h13 hours ago
        Replying to @arisroussinos

        A number of us wrote quite a bit about this at the time. I don't mean to be dismissive, but there's just no way I can answer this in a tweet or two. But we did have answers (whether they would have satisfied everyone is a different issue)

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      3. Aris Roussinos‏Verified account @arisroussinos 13h13 hours ago
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        If you could point me towards those answers, I'd be very grateful

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      2. Yousuf‏ @604yousuf 12h12 hours ago
        Replying to @arisroussinos @shadihamid

        The problem in Syria wasn't ethnic & sectarian divisions it was the fact that the Assad regime had the instruments of death & destruction and a free hand to use them. Barrel bombs, Sednaya, CW of course, starvation sieges, targeting hospitals and rescue workers, etc.

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      3. Yousuf‏ @604yousuf 12h12 hours ago
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        Also let's not pretend that ethnic & sectarian divisions haven't occurred even with the regime in place. This idea of the regime holding the country together is a ludicrous fantasy. One of the first things the regime did was invite Hezbollat & Iran to come save it.

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      2. Reza Afshar‏ @RezaMac 10h10 hours ago
        Replying to @arisroussinos @shadihamid

        It’s not about “replacing” Assad. The goal of intervention - by that, I mean regular retaliatory strikes against military assets as a deterrence to continued killing of civilians - would have been to stop the killing of civilians. After that, context of peace talks etc changes.

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