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-A lot of outlets (I'm looking at you, Ukrainian news outlets) are reporting this photo as definitely real. Nope! -Original source of first photo suspended on Twitter; he said he got it from a local on WhatsApp -Would be massive development if verified, but so far, nothing solid
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Summary / tl;dr: -We have two photos of the Tor missile fragment, both showing the same object/place -Photos are allegedly in Parand, likely in a residential area & not necessarily near the crash site -Photos were allegedly sent by locals on WhatsApp -Not yet geolocated/verified
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The third picture is just the first one, but rotated, put through a color filter, and cropped.https://twitter.com/wimdows/status/1215288422421671936…
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Dozens are people are pointing this out, but these irrigation canal/barrier things are *everywhere* around this area. That's like pointing out that there's a paved road or rock near the crash site, just like in the pic with the rocket part.https://twitter.com/arshia006/status/1215267336934117376…
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Well, this is getting a bit more interesting! Definitely seems like the same part and location, with the plastic/matte food tray (?) moved a bit. Some very minute details match up, as seen here. I thought this photo was old/recycled, but now I'm unsure. https://twitter.com/Liberalist_30/status/1215215162161975298 …pic.twitter.com/to5pjmrZTV
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Aric Toler Retweeted
One underrated internet story is the election causing hordes of maga people who know fuck all about the internet to struggle their way on to social media en massepic.twitter.com/ie780TnHZm
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Ashkan DMed me and said that it was taken in Parand, in front of an apartment.
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This is probably just him falling for a really bad ransomware attempt, but I'd rather think that Shaq hates the NYT op-ed sectionpic.twitter.com/kxwi7rbRou
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The Epstein suicide / "suicide" of airline disasters
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Supposedly in Shahriar (north of the crash site/airport), so start digging around there.https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1214975437278973952…
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(Personally: I am leaning towards this being a recycled photo, taken from Telegram or Whatsapp and previous taken in a different incident/country. The source is not at all trustworthy)
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Until we hear more from
@AshkanMonfared_ on where he got the photo from, best chance to verify the photo is through the concrete irrigation barriers, and (outside chance) this piece of trash. I guess a plastic food container? Can probably figure out the brand from the design.pic.twitter.com/g53PLPkKrfShow this thread -
In particular,
@666_mancer gathered a ton of photos/videos back in 2015 of used Tor-M missiles in eastern Ukraine, without any matches to this one (though they obviously look very similar)https://donetsksite.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/zrk-tor-panzir/…Show this thread -
For what it's worth, I've tried a ton of ways to reverse search images to find this same photo but no luck so far. It could be geolocated (theoretically) from the details in the photo, or seen in other imagery / videos (e.g. drone footage of the crash site?)
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Not sure where Ashkan got the photo from, but this is the patient zero for the Twitter shares. An old tweet from
@666_mancer (found by@Liberalist_30) shows a similar fragment from a missile used in 2015 in Donetsk. Again, no clue where orig pic came from.https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/651263285870858240…Show this thread -
This is the original source of the photo being passed around, it was allegedly found near the PS752 flight. Speculation that it's a Tor-M (Russian air defense system used by Iran https://sputniknews.com/russia/2007020760358702/ …) https://twitter.com/AshkanMonfared_/status/1214956002455375872 …
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(This photo has been confirmed as real, you can ignore all of the boring verification/geolocation talk below unless you want to dig around some yourself)
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Gut-wrenching to see the anticipated arrival on Flightaware, with an imaginary trajectory about to 'arrive' in Boryspil.pic.twitter.com/6zCGCvACdW
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(Obviously, it's very possible there was just a real technical error, either from some bizarre indirect factor related to last night's events or a cosmic coincidence. But it's hard to wrap my mind around this being a completely random technical issue for a new Boeing plane)
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If (a very, very big if) Iran did shoot down this plane on accident, hopefully they quickly take responsibility and not drag this out. Both Russia (MH17) and America (655) have had some issues with that, and especially with MH17, it's a serious emotional toll on victims' families
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New crash photos showing it actually in town -- likely in eastern/southeastern Parand (see 35.485220, 50.956283 -ish)https://twitter.com/Aviation_NewsTW/status/1214773387593043968…
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This one seems to fit much more nicely with the color and with nearby paths that could match the camera positionhttps://twitter.com/weberupp/status/1214773673783185408…
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Biggest issue is trying to figure out a path/road that the photo was taken from with this perspective of the roof, any ideas?pic.twitter.com/LSmYiY6qZu
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A few people have sent me this spot -- looks promisinghttps://www.google.com/maps/@35.5054511,50.9490784,391m/data=!3m1!1e3…
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(Unrelated, but neat snap here of a flight during takeoff with the motion captured)pic.twitter.com/22ncbRdj0Y
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This industrial park is the most promising on first glance, but a total mess to figure out the right onehttps://www.google.com/maps/@35.4466051,51.0001867,2455m/data=!3m1!1e3…
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No clue on the date of that Gmaps layer, so check Google Earth as well for what may be a newer image.
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If you want to look, zoom and scourhttps://www.google.com/maps/@35.4888504,50.9218427,6879m/data=!3m1!1e3…
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Unconfirmed photo of the crash site outside of Tehran. Could geolocate it to confirm, especially with the blue-roofed building. Last ping was in vicinity of 35.501609, 50.925865 headed northwest, so search around that radius. Direct link to orig resolution https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENu3eVqWkAE2wrC?format=jpg&name=orig …pic.twitter.com/9jrARPY1vy
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Aric Toler Retweeted
This appears to be a video of the Ukranian passenger airplane that crashed just outside of Tehran International. This doesn't look good.pic.twitter.com/bgHEkTAmBt
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"Technical issues" Yeeeeeah. Well, it happened after takeoff (Tehran --> Kyiv)
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Ukraine Air 752 (PS752) https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AUI752 …https://twitter.com/Tasnimnews_EN/status/1214750185177407488…
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Aric Toler Retweeted
President Trump lies with a passion — it’s a pathology, writes
@JeremyScahill. But here’s an uncomfortable truth: Donald Trump probably represents the best hope that we’ve had since 9/11 to actually end some of these forever wars. https://interc.pt/2TN82g2 pic.twitter.com/PzU0OXGOKTTrump Is a Liar — but He May Be Our Best Hope to End U.S. Forever WarsThe mere possibility of ending some of these forever wars is worth our time and effort even if Donald Trump is the president. -
Sorry, I only trust people who use Yahoo Answers, like Bill Mitchellpic.twitter.com/EtIcPoHAGl
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Some happy news instead of Iran horror: in honor of Duncan Hunter resigning from Congress today, the best and only thing to read about him, via
@ashleyfeinberg --https://splinternews.com/what-is-rep-duncan-hunter-up-to-on-the-world-wide-web-1794000224… -
An interesting trend that jumps out here is how important the medium of investigation is in Russia, for a million different reasons that include the rise in citizen activism, low cost of digital publishing, and necessity from carousel of media outlets being hijacked/seized.
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Really neat piece from
@Alexey__Kovalev surveying the evolution of Russian investigative journalism over the last decade, from some Livejournal blogger named Navalny, to (not to brag)@bellingcat/@the_ins_ru digital investigations, to new Telegram channelshttps://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/01/07/from-the-blogosphere-to-telegram…Show this thread -
Really interesting piece here on Yandex's facial recognition capabilities. I also added an extra update to my now dreadfully out-of-date SearchFace (which morphed into FindClone) guide, if you're curious: https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/how-tos/2019/02/19/using-the-new-russian-facial-recognition-site-searchface-ru/ …https://twitter.com/nelson/status/1214627014138720256…