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Opened 1 week ago by Ben Hayward@benhayward.ben
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Explore if rewards algorithm was changed

@jotto141

Were there any dev changes on November 24th that could have changed the amount of tokens we are rewarding? Users are asking me and I know @nicholas Lewis has asked for a response here a few times. Would appreciate it if a dev could take a quick look today or tomorrow if you have a free minute.

Edited 1 week ago by Jack Ottman

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  • Mark Edworthy
    Mark Edworthy @medworthy · 1 week ago

    Since around November 21st it seems that the daily totals have dropped significantly (when compared to the previous corresponding contribution score percentages and amounts). I am submitting both my contribution and transaction ledgers (for the dates November 8th to December 8th). Whilst there are no identical amounts (based on contribution score percentages and amounts, and the transaction totals), there is a noticeable disparity shown when comparing amount between November 8th to (approximately) November 20th and November 21st to December 8th (as an example, compare the records for November 9th, November 10th and November 24th, as well as November 18th and November 26th).

    * Contribution Ledge (For Dates November 8th to December 8th)
    contribution-log_20191209

    * Transaction Ledger (For Dates November 8th to December 8th)
    transactions-log_20191209

    Edited by Mark Edworthy 1 week ago
  • Ben Hayward
    Ben Hayward @benhayward.ben · 1 week ago
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    Thanks for sharing @medworthy. This is being investigated and I'll keep you informed.

  • Ben Hayward
    Ben Hayward @benhayward.ben · 6 days ago
    Developer

    From what I can gather nothing in this area has changed, but it does fluctuate depending on your contribution to the site those days and everybody else's.

    Is the pattern shown above still occurring?

  • Ben Hayward @benhayward.ben added Triage::Questions scoped label 6 days ago

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  • Mark Edworthy
    Mark Edworthy @medworthy · 4 days ago

    @benhayward.ben,
    As I have demonstrated above, I accounted for the contribution percentage score and the amount totals. Reviewing the above screenshots (which provides accurate data as provided by the framework), there is an obvious disparity between amounts prior to November 21st when compared to figures provided after this date.

    To further demonstrate this, I compared the amounts that I received yesterday (December 16th) with similar numbers for both November 15th and November 13th (especially note the similarities between December 16th and November 13th). On these dates, I received a total contribution score of 26 (equating to: Dec 16th: 0.027502%, Nov 15th: 0.022006%, Nov 13th: 0.021929% of the full contribution percentage of those days). However, when comparing the amounts, December 16th token amount is just under half (49.93%) when compared to the previous two amounts.

    Screenshot_20191217_195552-2

    Edited by Mark Edworthy 4 days ago
  • Luculent
    Luculent @luculent · 4 days ago

    Last I heard, one of the admins posted someplace, that they had turned off the 2X multiplier...that it was a bonus and no longer being offered.

    Check with Nick; a post he answered in H&S about 3 weeks ago or whatever.

    Well my rewards have been cut in 1/2 ever since anyway

    Edited by Luculent 4 days ago
  • Ben Hayward
    Ben Hayward @benhayward.ben · 4 days ago
    Developer

    I see, I spoke with our CTO about it, this is indeed the case. The line of code that determines the amount rewards given out is here and has not been changed in a year.

    https://gitlab.com/minds/engine/blame/master/Core/Rewards/Contributions/Manager.php#L160

  • Mark Edworthy
    Mark Edworthy @medworthy · 1 day ago

    @benhayward.ben
    I am a bit confused here, has there been a change in policy and therefore, has line 160 of Manager.php ignored?

    There also seems to be some confusion within Minds Inc. Both yourself, @jotto141 (the COO) and @javanick (administrator) were not made fully aware of any changes regarding the reward system during the last month.

    Finally, if there has been a change in policy (which affects all users) then why wasn't there any (easily to find) notifications provided to the users (via a pinned H&S post or blog article)?

  • Luculent
    Luculent @luculent · 21 hours ago

    Take it for what its worth:

    The fact that there is even the slightest ambiguity here just truly exemplifies the 'open source' nature of Minds.

    This site is plagued with the lack of documentation, and the failure to communicate to its userbase.

    You should consider that @xander-miller

    Edited by Luculent 21 hours ago
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