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社怪学者。博士。だらだらツイートしています。 転載禁止。「占いをまとう少女たち」(青弓社)アイコンは頂き物。だからツイート消すってば。

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    1. おきさやか(Sayaka OKI)‏ @okisayaka 4h4 hours ago

      国内のHPVワクチンの現状と課題 感染症医の視点(忽那賢志) - Y!ニュース https://news.yahoo.co.jp/byline/kutsunasatoshi/20191023-00147409/ … 男性の接種への議論が少なすぎること、あと子宮頸癌経験者としては、基本的に議論が繊細でないというか、推進派が「親や医療者の安心感」レベルでの議論しかして無いってのが騒動の根幹にあると思う

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    2. おきさやか(Sayaka OKI)‏ @okisayaka 4h4 hours ago

      医療者の始点(大量観察)だと、「複数回試行して失敗(発病)回数が劇的に減る→大成功」だけど、発病する個人目線だとずっとロシアンルーレット、「結局注射しても検診でガンになる人はなる、しかも割合が少なくなるほど他の人と体験の共有難しいし、運の悪さを余計に感じて辛い」の感想になる。

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    3. おきさやか(Sayaka OKI)‏ @okisayaka 4h4 hours ago

      つまり賭けの見え方が全然立場で違う。この辺まで踏み込まないといい議論できない

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      MizuhoH‏ @_keroko 3h3 hours ago
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      はじめまして。そういう指摘をすると医療関係者からすごく怒られるし、果てはネットストーカーにあいます。なかには副反応「被害者」に高額整体師を勧める医療者もいるのですが、それを指摘したら総攻撃にあいました。そのくらい推進派が雑です。

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        2. おきさやか(Sayaka OKI)‏ @okisayaka 13m13 minutes ago
          Replying to @_keroko

          予防接種は立場の違いで違うゲームになってしまう、の議論は18世紀のダランベールも言っているのですが科学思想史における再評価は二十世紀末です。別の系統でもリスク論、科学技術論では既に認識されてる論点のはずですが、地域や分野によってはまだ対応が遅れてるかもしれません。

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        3. おきさやか(Sayaka OKI)‏ @okisayaka 7m7 minutes ago
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          医療者も普通はよく理解しているはずですが、例外もあるのかもしれません。たとえばガンの治療法の選択と生存率のような話をする場合、「この数字はあなたの話ではないし、あなたにとっては生きるか死ぬかの問題なので無理には勧めない」のような一言をちゃんと入れる医師はそれなりにいるのですよね

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