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bevar 10-14-2009 09:21 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
Where did "Lucky Pierre" go? I figured he would have this thread up to 5 pages by now...riddled with insults...innuendo and false bravado.

Hmmmm...I guess he surrendered. ;)

Beave

Dan M 10-14-2009 09:29 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 


ORIGINAL: bevar

Where did ''Lucky Pierre'' go? I figured he would have this thread up to 5 pages by now...riddled with insults...innuendo and false bravado.

Hmmmm...I guess he surrendered. ;)

Beave
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FILE IFR 10-14-2009 09:58 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 

I'm glad I'm Italian :D

Woketman 10-15-2009 06:13 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
I'm glad I'm a pollack!!!

LGM Graphix 10-15-2009 09:45 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
I'm glad I'm not a moderator anymore ;)

Gordon Mc 10-15-2009 09:49 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 


ORIGINAL: LGM Graphix

I'm glad I'm not a moderator anymore ;)
Touche !

David Gladwin 10-15-2009 09:57 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 

[quote]
you come back name calling and used a poorly designed and manufactured propane hand grenade that was a complete commercial failure (another typical French characteristic) as your comeback to the thread?


[quote]


If you are talking about the JPX 260 engine you are talking complete and utter rubbish. It was certainly no hand grenade

The JPX engines were made to the highest engineering standards (as those of us who visited the factory in Vibraye and know Jacques Buchoux ) , and if operated correctly were a very good engine indeed , development of other liquid fuelled engines, basically the KJ66 overtook them and as they were not capable of being developed to similar standards of thrust and performance as that edesign, JPX ceased manufacture. Their precision engineering capability was then used for things such as components for F1 engines and aerospace.

Jerry Jackman's engine was, as far as I know, never developed although it did fly succesfully and is widely believed to be the first.

Many of us had GREAT success with JPX engines and my T260 is being offered to the Science Museum in London, a great example of pioneering engineering in model aviation.

Regards,

David Gladwin.

RUFTER 10-15-2009 10:01 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 


ORIGINAL: Strykaas

Great wine gives wings...

In France was also the first flight of an rc jet powered by 4 turbine engines, 4 x jpx t240...


[link]http://bugpat.chez.com/video/Concorde.zip[/link]

Can you also remember how long the thing lasted? I have allready seen some nice big-plane-crashes, but the Concorde is still one of my favorites. 8th of 18th flight I can't remember...
10 seconds or so after take-off, all propane tanks full= biggest fireball in the history of model jet crashes!

AndyAndrews 10-15-2009 10:07 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 


ORIGINAL: RUFTER



ORIGINAL: Strykaas

Great wine gives wings...

In France was also the first flight of an rc jet powered by 4 turbine engines, 4 x jpx t240...


[link]http://bugpat.chez.com/video/Concorde.zip[/link]

Can you also remember how long the thing lasted? I have allready seen some nice big-plane-crashes, but the Concorde is still one of my favorites. 8th of 18th flight I can't remember...
10 seconds or so after take-off, all propane tanks full= biggest fireball in the history of model jet crashes!
is there any footage of that? Man that is one beautiful bird. I hate to hear that its gone.

RUFTER 10-15-2009 10:30 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
There is footage, but I don't know it's on the web.

Peter Ritters from PR Medien & Hobby has it on his "Crash Action 4" DVD.

Try to image the bird taking off from a gras strip with way too little speed, once airborne the pilot keeps it stick UP, desperate to get some altitude. The plane goes 85 degrees high-Alpha for a few seconds, flips over one time and plummits to its death in the woods...

gooseF22 10-15-2009 10:57 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
The Wren sold in the USA are Assembled and tailored by Ron Ballard in his Wren USA shop. Good ole indiana farm boy building outstanding motors.. [8D]

bevar 10-15-2009 10:59 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
David,

Auto museums throughout the world are full of Ford Edsels too. I was responding to Sasses retort. JPX-260? Where did that come from Mate?

Cheers,

Beave





ORIGINAL: David Gladwin


If you are talking about the JPX 260 engine you are talking complete and utter rubbish. It was certainly no hand grenade

The JPX engines were made to the highest engineering standards (as those of us who visited the factory in Vibraye and know Jacques Buchoux ) , and if operated correctly were a very good engine indeed , development of other liquid fuelled engines, basically the KJ66 overtook them and as they were not capable of being developed to similar standards of thrust and performance as that edesign, JPX ceased manufacture. Their precision engineering capability was then used for things such as components for F1 engines and aerospace.

Jerry Jackman's engine was, as far as I know, never developed although it did fly succesfully and is widely believed to be the first.

Many of us had GREAT success with JPX engines and my T260 is being offered to the Science Museum in London, a great example of pioneering engineering in model aviation.

Regards,

David Gladwin.

erbroens 10-15-2009 11:27 AM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
Strikaas, why you want to know why no turbine is made in the USA? RCU is a tool of exchange of information and friendship and it is not any good for trading insults or venting frustration.

I would suggest you to concentrate in buying a turbine of any brand you want from whatever country that suits your technical needs.. and later share your pictures, stories or questions about this subject with us, as we are glad to read about them.


Best regards, Enrique.

ravill 10-15-2009 12:16 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 


ORIGINAL: Dan M



ORIGINAL: bevar

Where did ''Lucky Pierre'' go? I figured he would have this thread up to 5 pages by now...riddled with insults...innuendo and false bravado.

Hmmmm...I guess he surrendered. ;)

Beave
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That is TOOO funny!!! http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...smiley1146.gif

Raf

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dw_crash 10-15-2009 01:41 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
Gents,

JDE makes a 14 lb, 54mm class engine called the Hawk 14. It is 100% made in California. Oops, the ECU is made in another state. But still all American. It features some neat innovations like a brushless starter motor. It can spin the engine nearly to idle RPM.

JDE also has a Hawk 16 and a 66mm turbine in the works.

DW_Crash

Strykaas 10-15-2009 01:41 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
http://www.natigoodbeats.com/wp-cont..._surrender.jpg

DPKII 10-15-2009 02:57 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
"Gents,

JDE makes a 14 lb, 54mm class engine called the Hawk 14. It is 100% made in California. Oops, the ECU is made in another state. But still all American. It features some neat innovations like a brushless starter motor. It can spin the engine nearly to idle RPM.

JDE also has a Hawk 16 and a 66mm turbine in the works.

DW_Crash"



Yes, and the turbine wheels and NGV are cast to US Aerospace standards. There is also a Hawk 12lb.

David

ravill 10-15-2009 04:32 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
Oops, you're right! Dennis Fuente is a super nice guy and JDE is made right here in the bay area!!

Raf

PaulD 10-15-2009 06:36 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 


ORIGINAL: LGM Graphix

I'm glad I'm not a moderator anymore ;)
Chicken! [sm=bananahead.gif][sm=punching.gif]

Gordon Mc 10-15-2009 06:53 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 


ORIGINAL: PaulD



ORIGINAL: LGM Graphix

I'm glad I'm not a moderator anymore ;)
Chicken! [sm=bananahead.gif][sm=punching.gif]
Hey Jeremy ... sounds like we have a volunteer !! ;)

bevar 10-15-2009 08:35 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
Well...I'll admit you do have a good sense of humor.

Nicely done.

Beave :D



Shok 10-15-2009 09:07 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 



ok now that was funny

Countryboy 10-15-2009 10:40 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
Take solace in knowing that it was one of your fellow countrymen that put the USA jet community on it's butt with his JPX powered Byron F-16 demo at the 1992 Top Gun event.



bevar 10-15-2009 10:47 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
Details!!! Details!!! This blood thirsty lot demands the details!!!



ORIGINAL: Countryboy

Take solace in knowing that it was one of your fellow countrymen that put the USA jet community on it's butt with his JPX powered Byron F-16 demo at the 1992 Top Gun event.



Countryboy 10-15-2009 10:53 PM

RE: Why no turbine made in USA
 
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...n8854260/pg_3/

And I believe I have the video of it around here somewhere.


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