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INTERNET PEOPLE NEED HOTPOCKETS AND A HOLOCAUST

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9a2b9c (1) No.9861113>>9861124 >>9861140 >>9861396 >>9861401 >>9861467 >>9861630 >>9861683 >>9861801 >>9861915 >>9861995 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

General Van Riper.

Made the Navy look like a bitch in war game exercisers circa 2002.

Used guerrilla tactics, low tech techniques(light signals, messengers) to launch a surprise attack on the navy, fucking their shit up. Van Riper crippled most of the fleet.

Pentagon cried like a bitch and reset the exercise limiting Van Riper, and tying his hands. Turning the exercise into a demonstration of high tech jew defense toys.

Discuss ways the US military could be fucked up in unforeseen ways.

dadcbc (1) No.9861124>>9861150 >>9861163 >>9861380

>>9861113 (OP)

Bet he dreams of dying for Israel too.


1296e4 (2) No.9861140>>9861375

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>>9861113 (OP)

>Discuss ways the US military could be fucked up in unforeseen ways.

A handful of commandos travelling alone in civilian clothes shooting up transformers outside of major cities. Particularly those with significant nigger populations.


757a82 (1) No.9861141

Oh yeah, I remember this guy. Fucked shit up with classic tactics and basically showed how incompetent the average military person was


9fd06d (2) No.9861150>>9861380

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1296e4 (2) No.9861163>>9861199 >>9861208 >>9862002

>>9861124

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Van_Riper

>He later served in Egypt, Israel, Lebanon and Okinawa.


9fd06d (2) No.9861199>>9861380

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>>9861163

ZOG bot cristians with their whole 'muh chosen people' truly the blackest of cancers.


cdecc0 (1) No.9861208>>9861380

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a11d51 (1) No.9861210>>9861215 >>9861468

Weren't his communications (by motorcycle iirc) instant? Kinda a big deal.

Either way, loading up a ton of 'fishing' boats with missiles and zerging out on the navy was a pretty cool idea. Everyone was laughing at Iran a few years ago when they had a bunch of little run-and-gun boats, but it's pretty evident that they paid attention to this exercise.


f3a8a9 (1) No.9861215

>>9861210

They were Motorcycle couriers driving up to a land line phone and simply calling another courier.

Completely logical and practical for the defending power, which is what Red Team was acting as.


dad6cf (1) No.9861276

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Interesting thread and a good idea OP, I was just talking about the cable guy cap today.


1f4f62 (1) No.9861291>>9861530

Almost everything the military pours its money into these days seems geared towards attacking civilians with little to no knowledge or experience. This is a good example of what happens when overpriced turkey tech is pit against the real deal. I was genuinely upset when the Comanche project was scrapped, that was a platform that would strike fear into another world power. But no, more shitty drone bullshit instead.


375ce0 (1) No.9861302

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>low tech techniques (light signals)


ef805f (1) No.9861318>>9861359

So the pentagon is fucking with our technique of not doing things by the book?


dab332 (1) No.9861359>>9861468 >>9862024

>>9861318

The Pentagon's current warfighting doctrine has significant issues dealing with insurgents and asymmetric warfare.

A dedicated ragtag group could launch a devastating surprise attack on the world's foremost naval power with nothing more than motorcycles, laser pointers, and motorboats.

This was essentially the Tribes:Ascend match between /v/ and reddit on a grand scale. The Pentagon's fancy equipment ultimately failed when faced with people who knew what they were doing.


5c8382 (1) No.9861365>>9862730

I hope this guy's on Trump's radar. He's one of the few old school guys left that knows his shit.


06bf91 (6) No.9861375>>9862318

>>9861140

This cap gets me every time. Its amazing how easy it would be to fuck up a major city. If i recall correctly one anon expanded on this cap by saying something like, do everything in that post but if you were a genuine terrorist you could cripple a city that is only accesible via bridges by literally placing live explosives and cutting off transportation in and out. All they have then are ships and air support which is obviously slower and far more costly. Normies dont realize how easy it is to destroy modern life if some angry people wanted to.


a389f1 (1) No.9861380

>>9861124

>>9861150

>>9861199

>>9861208

We should teach godwads and biblethumpers about the Kenites.


acd6ed (12) No.9861396>>9861400 >>9861405 >>9861440 >>9861468 >>9861591 >>9862685

>>9861113 (OP)

/k/ hates this guy, so he's probably pretty good.


06bf91 (6) No.9861400>>9861415

>>9861396

For what fucking reason? Being good at warfare?


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861401>>9862415

>>9861113 (OP)

Did you miss the yemen thread? Houthi militia sank us destroyers in the Persian gulf with shoulder launched missiles. Total blackout in media, and they are still at it fucking saudi Arabia's shit up.


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861405>>9861415

>>9861396

Sauce needed


acd6ed (12) No.9861415>>9861426 >>9861440 >>9861458 >>9861469 >>9861491 >>9861683 >>9862685

>>9861400

>>9861405

They think he cheated. The whole "instantaneous motorbikes" thing. But they also ride lockheed's dick whenever somebody criticizes the pace and expense of the F-35 project. They have serious pro-murica biases.


06bf91 (6) No.9861426>>9861458 >>9862123

>>9861415

Kek, i havent been on /k/ for quite some time but if thats true theyre a bunch of fags for defending the f-35 project. Nothing has been a bigger screwup than that entire project and further proves that this defense budget needs to be cut. God ive managed to somehow open every thread on here that really rustles my jimmies tonight.


d9ee93 (2) No.9861440>>9861458 >>9861492

>>9861415

>>9861396

Which /k/? 8 or 4?


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861458>>9861485 >>9861492 >>9861493 >>9861591

>>9861415

>>9861426

>>9861440

You're a liar and a fool. 8/k is some of the most redpilled and knowledgeable people on the internet, they would only ever defend the f35 in ironic shitposting. 4/k attracts a lot more of the same crowd, difference being they have grown enough to rate paid shills who bait with Lockmart flame wars. But that's a few shills on a fbi honeypot.

If anyone criticizes this general they do so out of autistic detail minding, but /k/ always is keen on asymmetric warfare and our monolithic jew tech army being vulnerable. Kys


7995ff (1) No.9861467

>>9861113 (OP)

>Discuss ways the US military could be fucked up in unforeseen ways.

Anything that interferes with our superior tech will probably cripple us


8532f9 (1) No.9861468

>>9861210

Russia specifically designed much of their military plans this way, also. They are completely justified in worrying about ZOG loose-cannon bullshit, obviously.

>>9861359

Combat priors worth anything will tell you the same, even on an individual scale–the warrior is more important than the gear or weapons systems. A real warrior IS a fucking weapons system. And underestimating anyone who ever was a jarhead or especially SOCOM is a great way to get very dead, very fast.

>>9861396

/k/ has some issues, for sure. There are a lot of autistic posers in there, or at least there were a few years ago when I looked. I never went back.


bbea89 (4) No.9861469>>9861487

>>9861415

his strategies required a lot of impossible shit to happen and also were way out of accordance with what was supposed to be wargamed.

He basically did a "I'm goku I win forever" in a game of pretend.


06bf91 (6) No.9861485>>9861496 >>9861502

>>9861458

Dont quote me in there nigger i said if its true than theyre fags. Im still waiting for some type of confirmation if they actually posted that bullshit.

Topic derailing aside, i really want to know if any anons have any information on vulnerable the electric grid is. I heard it was extremely easy to cause a cascading failure with power lines but have not looked much else into it


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861487

>>9861469

We've fought every war since korea with the same impossible set of conditions

> win hearts and minds

> train the afghanis to be real soldiers

> win a respectful war in the jungles of Vietnam

> defend aircraft carriers from submarines


b2c0d6 (1) No.9861491>>9861621

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>>9861415

>They think he cheated

"in a war game

Fucking what? How? By actually shooting people with live ammunition? You can't cheat at war, for fucks sake.


acd6ed (12) No.9861492>>9861507 >>9861528 >>9861555 >>9862685

>>9861440

>>9861458

I usually use 4/k/ pls no bully, only 4 board I use because 8/k/ is too slow. But pro F-35 bias exists on both.


edae8c (2) No.9861493

>>9861458

he probably means half/k/ not full/k/


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861496>>9861514

>>9861485

Some shitposters in texas knocked out power with a sniper attack a few years ago. Just set up a few hundred yards away and blasted at the transformer station until shit fucked up. The power company's defense was to cover it up.


e64785 (1) No.9861502

>>9861485

I figured I'd go out with some thermite and crash a major point on the grid one day. Take EBT out for a weekend. For teh lulz.

Any FBI want to sponsor me? Gas doesn't grow on trees you know.


edae8c (2) No.9861506

reminder that termite is basically rust + aluminum


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861507

>>9861492

Shills all of them. If there exists 8k f35 posts I tell you it's shitposting, I live there. The f35 is a shitheap. Any slightly opinion to the contrary is usually based out of jealousy towards people who called it years ago. The hipster thing to do for k faglords is to be "edgy" by calling you a spreyfag, even though Pierre sorry has yet to be proven wrong


06bf91 (6) No.9861514>>9861535 >>9861549

>>9861496

Hahahah holy fucking shit this story is so funny

>Newly reported details about a 52-minute sniper attack on a central California electrical substation last year are raising concerns from Capitol Hill and beyond, amid questions over whether it was the work of terrorists.

>52 minutes

how the literal fuck does no one NOT notice a god damn sniper shooting at a transformer for 52 fucking minutes.

>The April 16, 2013, attack had not been widely publicized until The Wall Street Journal reported new details in a story on Wednesday. The attack reportedly started when at least one person entered an underground vault to cut telephone cables, and attackers fired more than 100 shots into Pacific Gas & Electric’s Metcalf transmission substation, knocking out 17 transformers. Electric officials were able to avert a blackout, but it took 27 days to repair the damage.

27 days to repair some live action shitposting. Absolutely amazing


d9ee93 (2) No.9861528>>9861550 >>9862332

>>9861492

4/k/

>quantity of posts

>dildoes

>dildo bayonets

>homosexuality

>lolbergs

>leftists

>namefags

>furries

>bad information if not outright lies

>noguns

>drama

8/k/

>quality posts

>slavs

>helpful posters

>camaraderie

>vodka

>picking 4/k/


27f060 (3) No.9861530

>>9861291

>Almost everything the military pours its money into these days seems geared towards attacking civilians with little to no knowledge or experience.

It seems that way because that's exactly what it is. The primary enemies of the jewish US military are White civilians in the US and Western Europe and bad goyim ragheads in territory Saudi Arabia doesn't administer.


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861535

>>9861514

Yes it was ca that sounds better. Also as far as I remember there were witnesses and they saw bullets sparking as they passed through a chain link fence. I guess the police just took that long to show up. Must have been a remote location, then by the time cops get there the troops melt away.


acd6ed (12) No.9861549>>9861577 >>9862770

>>9861514

Suppose you are a power company worker. Something goes wrong, you drive out to investigate. You get within a few hundred meters and start hearing rifle fire. What do?

You're a glorified electrician, not a soldier. If I were in that situation, I wouldn't get anywhere near the place. The snipers probably were able to hang around that long because nobody had the inclination to stop them.

The power of insurgent snipers is truly frightening. It's also a largely memetic phenomena, the technology for insurgent sniping has existed for over a century but strategic and tactical elements of insurgent sniping have only been realized in the past two or three decades. The technology is simple, the real innovation is in the ideas. For instance using vehicles as sniping platforms was practically unheard of before the IRA started doing it. Iraqis picked up the technique and used it against Americans, and it was used in America by the Beltway Snipers. The technology is stupid simple, it's a disturbingly effective tactic, but few have done it yet because the trick is the idea. Another example, the German's tried insurgent sniping after WWII and failed abysmally. They had the idea but none of the tactics.


acd6ed (12) No.9861550

>>9861528

Man I just like the flamewars.


a65fd4 (2) No.9861555>>9861562

>>9861492

>pro F-35 bias on 8/k/

What?


acd6ed (12) No.9861562>>9861566 >>9861584

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>>9861555

IIRC somebody called me an idiot on 8/k/ once for saying the F-35 is a gross fatty.


a65fd4 (2) No.9861566>>9861591

>>9861562

It was probably a leaf. Just disregard all leafposts and you'll be fine.


06bf91 (6) No.9861577>>9861597 >>9861613

>>9861549

Yes thats a good point, most power stations ive driven past in my life are typically surrounded by chain link fences and are easily scalable. Im amazed we dont hear more about direct attacks to them. Perhaps its more complicated than i think it is. Then again, some dudes sat around sniping a station for 52 minutes so it cant be that hard


bbea89 (4) No.9861584

>>9861562

so one guy did it once and that means the whole board is sucking f35 dick?

Man I wish retards like you stayed on cuckchan


235e54 (2) No.9861591>>9861611 >>9862369

>>9861396

>/k/ hates this guy

/k/ here, and no

>>9861458

> they would only ever defend the f35 in ironic shitposting

>>9861566

>It was probably a leaf. Just disregard all leafposts and you'll be fine.

this


9a2671 (1) No.9861597

>>9861577

Most people who actually know how this shit works and have personal experience with it are still white Americans. Mexicans might dig the hole but they have no fucking clue what's going on in there. Believe me.


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861611>>9861635

>>9861591

Why did you quote me, was that ironic shitposting?


acd6ed (12) No.9861613

>>9861577

>Perhaps its more complicated than i think it is. Then again, some dudes sat around sniping a station for 52 minutes so it cant be that hard

It's pretty fucking easy, if you have any idea of what to aim at. And for knowledge that basic, the internet pretty much has you covered. You won't find much telling you what to shoot, but information about what different pieces of equipment are for and the basics of how they work? That's all out there and you don't need a college degree to wrap your mind around it. Apply that knowledge and a little bit of IQ elbow grease and you know all you need to.


94e51b (1) No.9861621>>9861645 >>9861660

>>9861491

No they're saying that the motorbike communications shouldn't have been considered instant, and there's a case to be made there.

Still, it's grasping at straws, the bigger issue obviously being that even with realistic motorbike speeds you can destroy the strongest navy on the planet with a bunch of hajis and a dream.


5356e2 (1) No.9861630>>9861733

>>9861113 (OP)

Just google "4th Generation Warfare" and read the relevant book by William S Lind.

In short: the US military is incapable of fighting a bunch of niggers.


235e54 (2) No.9861635>>9861646

>>9861611

Lurk more, nigger


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861645>>9861676

>>9861621

We've had other failures. The f22, trotted out all the time to show that were not possing away all our money, got whipped by Germans in previous gen fighters. I think the wargame was fought over the alaskan territory. Basically the raptor can't turn for shit and jerry just got lock after lock. I think the Germans were flying old merican models too, which would have been sprey work.


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861646


bbea89 (4) No.9861660>>9861746 >>9862371 >>9862625

>>9861621

It was more than just that.

>There is no such thing as unlimited resources, although it would perhaps be more accurate to say that even unlimited resources can't always be marshaled where and when you want them. For example, it would've been pretty tough for Van Riper to cook up another several hundred boats filled with people willing to suicide-rush an enemy navy. The computer simulation being run also failed to account for the fact that people learn pattern recognition pretty damn fast in a fight. The first "pleasure boat" that makes a beeline for your destroyer might be a fluke. A second one? OK, that's weird. A third one, and every subsequent boat, is going to be blown out of the water at max range. The computer simply assumed that all of them hit. EDIT: Other "hacks" by Van Riper included Moskit missile launchers from said pleasure boats (this is literally impossible in the real world given the size and weight of the Sunburn/Moskit model) and instant message delivery by undetectable motorcycle couriers. Van Riper was exploiting the computer's limitations just as much as he was "fighting" the U.S. navy.

>Foreknowledge of an enemy attack is fairly unlikely. Anyone can be a strategic genius when he/she knows where the enemy is going to be and when.

>An opponent with detailed knowledge of the American military is equally unlikely. Van Riper had run both the Marine War College and National War College, and he knew what the U.S. navy could and could not do to the hilt. This is not to say that these weaknesses do not exist (see discussion below), but it does mean that Van Riper's success would be almost impossible for a person without his experience to duplicate.

>Van Riper wasn't well-placed to win Millennium Challenge even allowing for his initial victory. He had thrown just about everything he had into that initial attack, and no real country (with the possible exception of China, or Russia if you're willing to include a lot of rusting Soviet-era weaponry) has thousands of missiles ready to replace the salvo he'd fired off. The gamers among us will be familiar with the term "zerg rush," and that's a pretty accurate descriptor for what Van Riper had done.

>The exact set of circumstances under which the "rules" of the game were changed are pretty ill-defined, and it's entirely possible that what Van Riper wanted to do was at odds with what Millennium Challenge was actually intended to do. Millennium Challenge essentially scripted a potential Persian Gulf invasion, and the attack he mounted bears no resemblance to the military proclivities of any nation in the region. As a matter of fact, it's a lot more like an insurgent force (again, see below). That's great if you want to stage a few spectacular attacks, but not so great if your ultimate aim is to win.


989dfa (1) No.9861668

What if (((certain people))) heading up the military actually want its tactical doctrines and preparedness to be unsuited to counteracting guerrilla warfare for some possible future intent?


bbea89 (4) No.9861676>>9861723 >>9861912

>>9861645

said wargame required visual confirmation before any weapon usage. f22 designed to operate well outside of that range.

Why are you such a fucking cuck? Really can't be bothered to research if the liberal media jerking each other off over a story about the US losing in a wargame might not actually be truthful. It's like you get off on it.


1935dc (1) No.9861683

>>9861415

>>9861113 (OP)

I think I saw this in star trek, when Kurt beat takeshi's challenge, the jew leaders got pissy.


7cf4c7 (11) No.9861723

>>9861676

Admitted spreyfag it's true. But back to rigged games, the f35 also "won" war games with bvr locks that assume

1. Awacs support

2. 100 percent positive ids, ie no ff

3. Target planes could not evade missile

Why would you think doubting zogs grip on reality to be cucking?


acd6ed (12) No.9861733>>9861742

>>9861630

>William S Lind

Lind is right about the rise of 4GW, but wrong about what the response needs to be. The only sane response to 4GW is arming the public and going full on RWDS. 4GW against the muslims is an ethnic conflict and we can only win if we treat it as such.

Lind proposes the opposite. He suggests integrating our troops with the locals. He's trash tier in his proposed response to 4GW.


27f060 (3) No.9861742>>9861753

>>9861733

The resources that sit under Muslim feet are more valuable than you are to the jews that Lind works for. It's far easier and both more profitable/palatable to run up a huge bill for White taxpayers servicing an occupation and accepting the deaths of stupid White ZOGbots who still don't get it.


acd6ed (12) No.9861746>>9861955

>>9861660

>An opponent with detailed knowledge of the American military is equally unlikely. Van Riper had run both the Marine War College and National War College, and he knew what the U.S. navy could and could not do to the hilt.

Objections like this really just prove the USN are being sore losers. They knew Van Riper's experience before the wargame began. They only bitched about it afterwards when they lost.


acd6ed (12) No.9861753>>9861759

>>9861742

Hence why I say his proposed response to 4GW is trash tier.


27f060 (3) No.9861759>>9861796

>>9861753

His proposed response is the only way anyone in the US military is ever going to look at it, regardless of how trash it is to you or I.


acd6ed (12) No.9861796

>>9861759

Instead of giving ATGMs to muslims, they need to start giving them to Americans. But that will never happen because they're zogbots.


d11271 (2) No.9861801

>>9861113 (OP)

Take out email. You have no idea how much the military is full of faggots that wouldn't be able to function without excel spreadsheets, powerpoint presentations, and emails about every fucking single little thing.

US mil is full of yes men thought would be lost puppies without their micro managing chain of command telling them exactly what to do and how to do it.


7bbdca (2) No.9861912

>>9861676

My sides thats fucking retarded. Its like when you didnt put a gun on the Phantom becauae "lol who's ever going to need guns in current year"


9659a7 (2) No.9861915

>>9861113 (OP)

I admit it was a good idea for the commanding officer to "refloat"/reset the exercise, given the logistical & monetary expenditure involved.

However, it should have been acknowledged that victory occurred under the scenario rules, and the "reset rules" should not have disallowed his legitimate asymmetric tactics but rather encouraged USN assets to expect this approach.


455243 (4) No.9861955>>9861967 >>9861978 >>9862338

>>9861746

>Metagaming is a legitimate strategy

No. Deliberately exploiting the artificial and abstract limitations of a game entered into in good faith by the other parties is not a legitimate strategy when the intent of the exercise is to approximate real-world conditions.


7bbdca (2) No.9861967>>9862030 >>9862735

>>9861955

If you kill your enemy, they win.


acd6ed (12) No.9861978>>9862016 >>9862030 >>9862735

>>9861955

>Van Riper won, and that was against the rules


b2ae88 (1) No.9861995>>9862016 >>9862092

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>>9861113 (OP)

SO THATS WHENSHIT WENT BAD THANKS OP


a5fdf9 (1) No.9862002

>>9861163

Well, in fairness, he couldn't control were he was deployed. Might as well say he dreams of dying for Japan and Egypt if that's your parameters for wanting to die for Israel.


e31ad1 (1) No.9862016

>>9861995

>pic related

Please post more and spoil it to not derail the thread.

>>9861978

The anon you're replying to is not entirely wrong, his actions while being good would be equivalent to bending reality IRL.


9516f0 (1) No.9862024

>>9861359

Putting too much faith in military tech s always a mistake, WW2 is testament to that.

>Oh wow you got 15 tank kills with 1 tiger tank? pretty cool fritz

>too bad we got a bunch of 7-34's in treblinka behind your lines, still cool tank bro, cya in berlin


455243 (4) No.9862030>>9862083 >>9862234 >>9862338

>>9861967

>>9861978

Winning by exploiting artificial limitations defeats the entire point of the exercise. If you would have to alter reality for your strategy in the simulation to become viable in the real world then you're simply playing to break the game and shit on everyone else, who entered the game in good faith.


6c463f (1) No.9862083>>9862200

>>9862030

>rules in war

>crying about zerg rushing

>ITS NOT FAIR HE'S A MASTER AND HE'S PLAYING WITH HIS A-GAME

and my personal favorite

>people learn pattern recognition in a fight

that why some boxers/mma keep getting hit with the same strike/combo/feint for 5 fucking round straight?

Not everyone thinks clearly under attack


014e38 (1) No.9862092

>>9861995

That would be like banging skinny pam on archer. I so want some.


91fd5d (1) No.9862123>>9862150

>>9861426

>F-35

Can you think of any better way to cover up funding of a black project, than pretending to blow it all on the F-35, every fucking year, saying it needs more money?


21921e (1) No.9862150

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>>9862123

So is the F-35 a nigger project? It needs always mo' money for dem project and shieet nigguh and bix nooding the US tax payers away from their money for a unreliable plane, probably because it has all the time chimps out in its internal parts.


ae51e5 (1) No.9862200

>>9862083

>rules in war

>rules in reality

so, I teleport behind you and unleash my katana.

I win.

nothing persenel, kid


d11271 (2) No.9862234>>9862271 >>9862343 >>9862404

>>9862030

>War

>Murder

>Cheating isn't allowed

>Good faith

Airsoft fag detected. Some cuck-tier logic you got there. Obvious you've never been in a firefight. There is no such thing as cheating.


9659a7 (2) No.9862271>>9862341 >>9862404

>>9862234

>There is no such thing as cheating.

…especially when Van Riper never did anything that could have been considered "cheating" outside of "not following the prescribed script that dictates total USN victory".

The Japanese "cheated" at Pearl Harbor far beyond what Van Riper ever did. Protip: we never got those sunken ships at pearl harbor back as a "refloat".


1cc126 (1) No.9862318>>9862751

>>9861375

The US power grid is divided into three networks. Just three, and they are woefully outdated considering their purposes. A terrorist cell could hit the Pacific or the Atlantic network and it would be guaranteed that over 100,000,000 would be without power for the foreseeable future. And if they took into consideration what time of the year it was, they could really rack up casualties. No hospitals, no shelters, no food stores, no nothing. Mid summer of mid winter would mean thousands dead with minimal effort.

Like many other things we've come to learn, it sounds crazy at first, but the more you look into it, the more you realize it's as real as can be short of slapping you across the face. I used to laugh or shake my head when I would hear people talking about "muh power grid failure" or "muh infrastructure," but I'll be God damned if it isn't a justifiable fear. The only difference between us and Mexico is we do small touch ups so that something looks pretty before it crumbles and fails miserably.

A foreign army would be overkill. 1,000 dedicated, talented extremists could lay low this entire nation inside a month


1f2527 (1) No.9862332

>>9861528

>Not crossposting

It let's you see what they're shilling easier. Plus a lot if shills post a thread on X on both at similar times.


492f6c (2) No.9862338>>9862404

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>>9862030

>>9861955

One can perhaps argue that the simulation itself was flawed and thus allowed Riper to win.

However, that would imply that the US tech isn't so high tech.


6f60f4 (1) No.9862341>>9862358

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>>9862271

Aircraft carriers are fundamental in naval warfare. Had any of the US aircraft carriers been docked & sunk at Pearl Harbor during the attack, the war in the Pacific would have most certainly played out much more in favour of the Japanese.


0ecab6 (1) No.9862343

>>9862234

Think about it this way: If I'm using a computer model to design a bridge, and I rely on a bug that lets me ignore gravity, are the other engineers just being sore losers when they reject my design?


492f6c (2) No.9862358

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>>9862341

>current year + 2

>using giant floating metal coffins


edbff8 (1) No.9862369

>>9861591

>Just disregard all leafposts and you'll be fine.

I dunno the QTDDTOT dude seems to be generally on the ball when it comes to stuff.


3be6c5 (2) No.9862371>>9862404

>>9861660

1. The US navy is not going to fire on pleasure boats without presidential approval unless they are attacked first. Their bureaucracy would slow them down.

2. Motorcycle couriers using payphones aren't undetectable. They are merely something the navy would not be looking for and not expecting so they would likely not notice them.

3. Foreknowledge is not hard when US navy movements are hardly a secret.

4. There are a lot of pissed off vets and some of them have enough military experience and knowledge to do something like this


455243 (4) No.9862404>>9862429

>>9862234

I never said that he cheated, I said he exploited the rules in a way that made the exercise pointless. When the point of an exercise is to approximate a real-life scenario, exploiting the limits of the game to perform actions at odds with reality is self-defeating.

>>9862271

>The Japanese "cheated" at Pearl Harbor far beyond what Van Riper ever did.

>Not knowing that the US was aware of an impending attack on Pearl Harbor weeks before it happened but that the information was deliberately withheld from the Navy by the Roosevelt administration

Wew. At any rate, the Japs didn't break the laws of physics when they attacked Pearl Harbor so I don't know what you're going on about.

>>9862338

Not really. Arbitrary rules and abstractions have to exist at some point or another and where those exist they will be exploited. Obviously any simulation could be better, but deliberately exploiting the rules when everyone else is acting in good faith generally does very little except waste time and money while opening tickets on whatever rules you exploited.

>>9862371

>1. The US navy is not going to fire on pleasure boats without presidential approval unless they are attacked first. Their bureaucracy would slow them down.

You mean the pleasure boats mounting four and a half ton tube-launched missiles the size of telephone poles?

>2. Motorcycle couriers using payphones aren't undetectable. They are merely something the navy would not be looking for and not expecting so they would likely not notice them.

They were undetectable in the simulation, which was the point of that statement.

>3. Foreknowledge is not hard when US navy movements are hardly a secret.

Depends on the level of detail you're talking about; obviously things like fleet movements are no secret but the insight of someone who has spent their entire adult life studying the US brand of naval warfare is not something that's come by easily.

>4. There are a lot of pissed off vets and some of them have enough military experience and knowledge to do something like this

Where, in the Persian Gulf?


0467fa (1) No.9862415

>>9861401

>Houthi militia sank us destroyers in the Persian gulf with shoulder launched missiles

wow didn't know the sand niggers rocked the navy like that


3be6c5 (2) No.9862429>>9862490

>>9862404

There is nothing stopping the boats from using other weapons.

There is also no reason a vet needs combat experience to plan an attack like this

Finally, if the enemy is not looking for something and does not suspect it then it might as well be invisible.


455243 (4) No.9862490

>>9862429

>There is nothing stopping the boats from using other weapons.

Yes, weapons that would be an order of magnitude less effective than a $1,300,000 supersonic STS missile.

>There is also no reason a vet needs combat experience to plan an attack like this

Again: which vets? All of the disgruntled ex-SEALs hanging out in Iran waiting for the chance to jump in a privately-owned speedboat and pull a ramjet the size of a small whale out of hammerspace like he was Bugs Bunny?

>Finally, if the enemy is not looking for something and does not suspect it then it might as well be invisible.

The possibility of them detecting it was literally zero. That's far beyond "may as well" because even if it they were directly informed of these communications (or hell, even the intent to use this means of communication) and allocated resources towards detecting and stopping them, they could still do nothing to those ends within the simulation.


17e4eb (1) No.9862625

>>9861660

>the attack he mounted bears no resemblance to the military proclivities of any nation in the region. As a matter of fact, it's a lot more like an insurgent force

Isn't this how we won the Revolutionary War against the strongest army in the war? Why is this seen as a bad thing?


bcd761 (1) No.9862626

Please crowdsource my next paper

t. Stratfor


fbc34f (1) No.9862659

The only group of people that doesn't have enough problems.


40eec0 (2) No.9862685

>>9861396

>>9861415

>>9861492

You mean the same half/k/ that bans discussion on gun control on the grounds of not having anything to do with guns? Yeah, I don't think you can exactly equate full/k/ to cuckchan


bde972 (1) No.9862730

>>9861365

>tfw no Modern Blitzkrieg


18a2b6 (1) No.9862735>>9862790

>>9861967

>>9861978

>you can destroy entire armies by spamming chariots in Rome Total War, therefore chariots dominated the battlefields of antiquity


e80747 (1) No.9862751

>>9862318

>talented extremists could lay low this entire nation inside a month

you vastly underestimate the time anon

>Large power transformers are essential critical infrastructure to the electric grid, and are huge, weighing up to 820,000 pounds. If large power transformers are destroyed by a geomagnetic disturbance (GMD) electromagnetic pulse (EMP), cyber-attack, sabotage, severe weather, floods, or simply old age, parts or all of the electric grid could be down in a region for 6 months to 2 years.

http://energyskeptic.com/2015/power-transformers-that-take-up-to-2-years-to-build/


d76b3e (1) No.9862770

>>9861549

>For instance using vehicles as sniping platforms was practically unheard of before the IRA started doing it.

What is the benefit of this?


40eec0 (2) No.9862790

>>9862735

>one side concentrates almost entirely on bombardment

>other side decides to take advantage of this by keeping their ground forces as close to the enemy's civilian population as possible to discourage them from simply bombarding everything

>"b-but he used an unfair strategy that doesn't allow me to indiscriminately bomb everything, this should be against the rules"

Just because technology has advanced doesn't mean that resorting to older methods and weaponry doesn't work in real life. If anything, it creates a niche just waiting to be taken advantage of. For example in Ukraine during the protests people used weapons used almost exclusively by peasantry from the Middle Ages due to how useful they were against shields.


9cd744 (1) No.9862792

So after watching an episode of codys lab where he makes a copper-aluminium pipe bomb, I was thinking of how easy it would be to blow up a whole line section of telephone poles. I wouldn't do it, ever, but it's surprising how easy it would be to, in a night blow or cut down a few and cut power off to a few sections of a small city. But now with the LPTs I'm very blown away. I drive around my area a bit to and from work, and I see the transformers and power supplies a lot. They're really open and easy to access. I'm just imagining how easy it would be to build some high explosives combined with some napalm to cripple the city.

Considering we house and provide entertainment for a sizeable military base, sometimes I'm tempted to cause a mini happening. I would never do it, burnt break power for a few weeks/months and starve out 80K plus people, would be interesting, especially considering, that because of big block stores, there arnt really any other options for food in the surrounding counties.

I should form a disaster preparedness group in town. In case any bad guys also plan to do what I would never do.

I would never commit an act of treason or terrorism against my Home Country.




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