/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

>>10004003

Just a coincidence :^)

Meh, it's probably a good way to lower the welfare budget.

>>10004003

If it's directed at abo communities it is definitely a win. Abos blow every cent on booze and other crap; I'd rather not subsidise their vices. But then the same could be said for all welfare dependents, really.

>>10004003

oh shut up you dumbarse cash fag.

the government can steal your wealth sixways to sunday and there is nothing you can do about it.

i like this idea and dont give a shit about a cashless society; i'd rather hoard canned food and water if i wanted a way to store wealth.

better that nig nogs and other subhuman filth be limited to just healthy food if they arent paying for it.

>>10004158

that's fucked bro, you don't understand how bad cashless would really be. it's this easy for the government to fuck you now, what happens when they dictate every purchase you make? that's what it comes down to when your money doesn't even exist outside of a computer, it might as well not.

>>10004335

they shouldn't get anything at all if they don't work

I just hope the government won't pretend it's a great success and impose commie fuckery anywhere else

>>10004352

Not a chance until the last boomer is dead. They horde cash like crazy so trying to fuck with nan and pop with their matress lined with $100's will never go down well. There are also rural areas that are too far out/ have insufficient infrastructure to push for anything like this and with the NBN having been gutted it jsut adds another level of pain to go down that path.

If/when it happens in burgerland is when you start to worry. We tail them by a couple of years but with something like that I would expect it to be somewhere in the vicinity of 6 - 12 months

>they shouldn't get anything at all if they don't work

I completely agree after a point, these services are supposed to help people get by until another job comes along. Issue is the fuckers don't want to work and are on it in perpetuity, these are the people that need to be cut off at the knees. I wouldn't say no if they were to find a solution for the potatos and mongs that involved a large incinerator either.

Last time I applied for newstart (8 or so years ago) I was in another job before I got a single dollar from the govt.

>>10004335

I'm sorry mate but I've come to the conclusion that it's better not to work (for money) and drain the system through welfare.

They give billions of dollars to NGOs and shitskins in order to displace us. The banks 10x all deposits through fractional reserve banking (essentially making money from nothing) which also greatly increases housing prices with easy credit.

Yet people are still out there working because they "don't want to be a parasite".

If we continue believing in the system, continue supporting the system, then it will continue existing. Only when we stop supporting it (historically through some great depression or disaster) will it change.

Save up money, buy land and build a cheap house on it (to get the 20k grant), grow your own food, chickens, goats, learn manual skills like woodworking.

When it comes down you won't be stuck in the city with millions of other domesticated fools, you'll be able to look after yourself and even prosper.

The debt has already spiralled out of control, monetary policy is essentially exhausted, they can't really afford to reduce taxes (or other fiscal policy measures). Trump was their last ditch effort to get the economy moving again, in a year or so if it doesn't work they'll bring it down around him so they can start the debt cycle again.

>>10004352

The system is fundamentally broken, they're using your own labour to fund schemes designed to hurt your people. You must work, but in ways outside of the tax system. This includes cash jobs and 'household work' like working to become self sufficient (growing food, animals, learning manual skills).

>>10004389

yeah mate, we all know shits fucked but if I don't work I can't buy funs, ammo and all the other shit I like to squirrel away for when it goes totally pear shaped. I see my countrymen suffering and im not apathetic enough to abandon them, for all the bullshit there are still good people here who are suffering and though fighting the indoctrination have no idea where to look. Redpilling in aus today is a fuckign breeze as long as you aren’t near a uni campus or capital city.

>>10004430

There's absolutely no problem with saving up for land and tools, in fact I recommend it until you've got some kind of decent setup.

I'm also not advocating removing yourself entirely from society, it's fundamentally important that you have a decent network and connections within your community.

>>10004434

In a cashless society it's virtually impossible to have a run on the bank. If people decide to spend money in a panic it's just going to cycle back into the bank accounts of retailers. They can also keep less cash in reserve if a bank run is out of the picture.

>>10004453

Adding to the 'run on the bank' line of thinking, consider the fragile state of national economies as they stand. Bank runs become more of a risk as economies falter (look at Greece). I wouldn't at all be surprised if the cashless society comes about as a response to the next recession.

>>10004465

FRB plays into this big time, shit is a ticking time bomb and no fucker learned from the last semi recession. Also remember that our banks are govt bonded so they go down, we all go down.

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>>10004453

>In a cashless society it's virtually impossible to have a run on the bank.

Yeah, you're right, my greatest ally, we shouldn't be so keen on protecting our rights, our freedom and our earnings when the Bank is at stake.

>>10004335

>what the coons get given

$25 billion AUD per year; just through Centrelink

>>10004482

I'm pointing our their way of thinking, not supporting it, I'm not a kike. This is why the banks want cashless and why the government would be likely to support it as well.

>>10004473

Government support to banks has always been foolish. There is a massive upside to the banks, but if they fuck up tax payers pick up the tab.

>>10004516

The west is already cashless for many transactions comrade. Contactless card technology has made it easier to pay with card (cashless) than paying with cash. Younger generations rarely use cash, if at all.

The resistance to cashless has already been broken, technological laggards are the only ones not using it. It's fully realisable that they will do away with cash within the next decade, especially as older generations (who comprise most of the laggards) die off.

>>10004564

Don't forget that the EU is already working on a transition to cashless, starting in 2018.

In fact, it has already begun, by suppressing big cuts and forbidding big purchases with cash (>€1000 in France for example), in the name of muh fighting terrorism (nevermind that the Nice "mad truck" was bought with a Visa).

>>10004748

The day they try to chip me is the day I go off grid. For good.

>>10004158

I wonder (((who))) could be behind this post

They are only now switching to "EBT" cards? They gave the fuckers cash? Even our old rainbow money food stamps wasn't cash. You had to find someone to trade your stamps to for cash.

Way to stay ahead of the game there.

>>10004013

yes.

UBI is simply rations. Those who're pushing for UBI are communist.

UBI in conjunction with a cashless society is terrifying. Once they get everyone dependent on the rations they can crack down on dissident.

Remember how Obama had banks crack down on some gun stores? It wasn't widespread as they were testing the waters.

Remenber the RFID chip scanners at Walmart?

We have individuals who want to ban autos,ration travling for the enviroment. In some countries you have to ask your government offical permission to travel.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-27/europe-proposes-confiscating-gold-crackdown-terrorist-financing

https://archive.is/zfboz

So - cash, bitcoin, precious metals, and prepaid cards over $150 are all instruments of the "terrorists" and are now open to confiscation if you are a suspicious person… which, by their rhetoric, you are if you actually hold any of these assets. Because apparently terrorists use these things to fund their operations rather than the thousands of euros they get in the form of welfare each month.

Sweden.

Greece

India

South Korea

Philippines

All want to go cashless.

The elite also want to implement carbon credits.

Canada is starting to do so.

everyone on earth will be given the same number of 'carbon credits' so a person living in a village in India, who doesn't even own a car, will suddenly has a 1000 carbon credits. If a family in America wants to have two cars and heat their home in winter they will have to buy credits from poorer countries.

Every citizen would be issued with a carbon "credit card" - to be swiped every time they bought petrol, paid an energy utility bill or booked an airline ticket - under a nationwide carbon rationing scheme that could come into operation within five years, according to a feasibility study commissioned by the environment secretary, David Miliband, and published today.

The idea was floated in a speech in the summer, but the detailed proposals show Mr Miliband is serious about trying to press ahead with the radical idea as a central part of his climate change strategy. Under the scheme, everybody would be given an annual allowance of the carbon they could expend on a range of products, probably food, energy and travel. If they wanted to use more carbon, they would be able to buy it from somebody else. The report admits huge questions would have to be resolved, including the risk of fraud, the relationship to ID cards, and costs. However Mr Miliband said "bold thinking is required because the world is in a dangerous place".

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/dec/11/uk.greenpolitics

In a few years from now you will have another plastic card in your wallet - your carbon card. You will start the year with 1,000 points on it and each time you fill up your car, you put the card in a slot on the pump and it will deduct a few points. Each time you buy an airline ticket, it will cost you a minimum of 100 points. If you fly regularly, you may have to buy more points through the carbon market - but since it is all in the cause of reducing greenhouse gas emissions you do not mind so much.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2006/jan/24/business.travelnews

>>10005273

>the mark of the beast manifest

And kikes are always behind it.

Who's excited for this brave new world?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-surveillance-big-data-score-censorship-a7375221.html

The Communist Party wants to encourage good behaviour by marking all its people using online data. Those who fall short will be denied basic freedoms like loans or travel

All china needs to do is go cashless and chip people.

>>10004158

And how to you buy your food and water if the govt blocks your card from purchasing it?

>no problem, I buy on the black marke…. ah, erm.

>>10005405

Lead.

>>10005444

Lead is only useful to a relatively small % of the population. In a pre-collapse economy no one will want it.

>>10005508

If you can't convey your "point" in a manner so as to be understood, that is your failing, not mine.

Posting Reddit memes is not an argument.

>>10005444

>>10005454

Bullets are made with lead

>>10005597

>thinks this is news to anyone on /pol/.

I see it's spoon-feeding time again. Ok.

If you allow the government to impose a cashless society, you have implicitly given them the power to ration, restrict or otherwise control your ability to readily purchase the necessities of life.

Attempted rebuttal:

>b…but you can barter with lead.

Because lead is of little use to the vast majority of the urban population, and most of the rural one too, any attempt to survive by trading lumps of lead will soon hit a brick wall as the market becomes saturated, that's if you can even find anyone willing to exchange food and water for lead.

Why the fuck would they? Why would your school teacher neighbour, or the single mothers down the street want your lead? they wouldn't They can just use their electronic currency, because theirs still work, because they were good Goyim and didn't wrongthink or protest, or get caught with outlawed weapons, or have blonde hair and blue eyes, etc etc.

I specifically wrote "pre-collapse" so that people like you wouldn't assume we were talking about a post-collapse society.

In post-collapse it would be easier to move your lead, that's if you aren't simply shot for it.

Lead will not be a useful currency in cities (where the vast majority of people live) any time soon.

But you're both missing the point. It's not that finding a way around the restrictions is impossible, it's that allowing cash to be phased out in the first place massively increases the ability of the state to control aspects of your daily life.

And we haven't even touched on knock-on effects yet. The "war on drugs" created a crime tsunami the likes of which the world had never seen, which continues to this day. A war on currency will have similar "unforeseen consequences" as criminals (which includes bad goyim thoughtcriminals whose currency has been shut off, rationed or restricted) start robbing or bumping off others for their "lead" stocks.

By the way, rounds are a much better barter currency. Higher value density and instantly useful without further processing. High quality ammunition can remain in good working order for many decades if stored in favourable conditions.

>>10005815

holy shit you're retarded

>>10005545

>not an argument meme

Perhaps I wanted you to feel more at home. You cunts can't take the hint and keep coming here after all.

Take my food or water, I fucking "buy" it with lead. Moron.

>>10005815

you fucking sperg, anon wants to kill commies with lead bullets by shooting them from a gun

With the overpupulation and open borders even whites will be pushed into welfare. To those advocating the harsher treatment of the useless. This is just a fucking political cosmetic move, why not let them drink themselves to death. I I bet their life expectancy isn't that high now. Only a little bit of freedom goy, just a little step , a little cut against a *Feindbild (a group that all can hate).

It is textbook d&c. The Mechanism will change slower as the group names, once installed. All with one goal to achieve more compliance overall.

We are not all ubermensch who not become mentally ill, or who will accept to live with minimal wage in a shitty appartment, but can't fight against it by himself. I assume even reichsdienst was somwhat fair payed.

I also assume that T4 was due to finacial hardships and wartimes, you wouldn't T4 veterans or would you?

As european it is fucking horrible to be forced in a job where some shitskin is ur boss, that can't even speak the language. Productive member my ass, i'm already in the racewar, and i will not supply the fucking shitskin babyspam.

So let me be a lazy and drunk what else is left. With paying taxes you already supplemented your enemy. So who cares if the abo is drunk.