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YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS

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109cb4 (1) No.923597>>923602 >>923615 >>931913 >>932013 [Watch Thread]

How does /pol/ feel about the future of white Africans?

54eb03 (3) No.923602>>925114

>>923597 (OP)
Isn't the situation in South Africa pretty bad? If so, why aren't we hearing anything about it?

279a66 (1) No.923603>>931861 >>931995 >>932065

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Many left for Canada and the UK, the remaining communities have organized themselves the best they can, but it still looks very grim.

e6ca92 (1) No.923615

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>>923597 (OP)
Is this as big a deal as it sounds?
>South Africa Land Expropriation a Priority According to President Zuma
http://guardianlv.com/2015/01/south-africa-land-expropriation-a-priority-according-to-president-zuma/

5cd61e (5) No.923625>>925400 >>929735

>white Africans

Historically, African has been synonymous with "black" even among white South Africans themselves.

I get the feeling that this recent trend among white people of calling themselves "African" is a defensive measure, intended to somehow ward off the next Mugabe. "O-oh no, you can't get r-rid of us, we're actually white Africans you see!"

Back in the old days, whites in Africa called themselves "Europeans" and were proud to be called so.

Certainly Afrikaner literally means "African," but hearing whites refer to themselves as "African" has always seemed a little grating to me, even as someone sympathetic to them myself.

6255d8 (2) No.923652>>925124

The whole continent needs to be hit with several neutron bombs.

3d439d (2) No.925114>>929770

>>923602
Are you seriously ignorant enough that you don't know why we don't hear about it in the mainstream Jewish media, or are you Jewish yourself?

3d439d (2) No.925124

>>923652
I am unable to think of any argument to the contrary. You raise a valid point.

f73bcc (2) No.925130>>925151 >>925189

Go back to Europe cumskins.

a10b47 (1) No.925151>>925167 >>930723

>>925130

aren't you woried your country will turn to absolute shit that neanderthals would be ashamed to live in once the white people go back to Europe. Afterall, this has been the fate of every single African country after getting rid of the white people.

f73bcc (2) No.925167>>925235 >>925377 >>929748 >>931488 >>931892

>>925151
Not all African countries are poor. A lot are successful. The ones which are not have to deal with mass corruption. British and French are scum who pulled out too fast. Left a power struggle. Africa was worse off under European rule anyways. Stop pretending it was some modernized area before independence. Europeans only cared about Africa for profit. They left as soon as it was not worth the money. You are proud of this? Most Africans don't hate whites. You need to calm down. They can live here in peace as long as they don't try to take power. Minority rule is wrong.

9ef803 (1) No.925175

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>Africa
>future

6255d8 (2) No.925189

>>925130
Only if we can all ship our blacks over to Africa in exchange. That goes for all countries they inhabit outside of Africa.

Deal? You get all our 'first world' niggers to help you 'rebuild' and we get our people back. Everybody wins

f04485 (2) No.925235>>925323

>>925167

>they stopped occupying us too quickly

only an african would say something like this

446647 (1) No.925323>>925401

>>925235
No, only an African would bitch about white people being in their country but still want them to give them shit.

18db08 (1) No.925377

>>925167
>thinking africa before europoors invaded it was any better

Yeah, Those mudhuts and constant tribal wars sure were the golden days, huh?

6ddd6b (1) No.925400

>>923625
They've lived there for over a century, they are certainly no longer natives of Europe.

f04485 (2) No.925401

>>925323
there is a reason i'm saging
there's also a reason there are id's

df1f12 (2) No.929735

>>923625
Why? They arrived there before the Bantus.

df1f12 (2) No.929748

>>925167
> British and French are scum who pulled out too fast.
>Africa was worse off under European rule anyways.

??

54eb03 (3) No.929770

>>925114
That's what I assumed, but I hoped I was wrong. Like, you would think there would be at least a few honest journalists keeping an eye on SA.

b65559 (1) No.930723

>>925151
Correct. Just the ones run by niggers are shitholes.

c0309c (1) No.931488

>>925167
The few Sub-Saharan African countries that are relatively successful either;
1. Have a sizable white population. 2. Have large proven oil/natural gas reserves (Equatorial Guinea and Angola) 3. Are receiving massive Chinese economic investment along with Chinese colonists.

Any success achieved in Sub-Saharan Africa has absolutely nothing to do with the black sub-humanoids that are inhabiting the land.

e9dbcd (1) No.931701>>931919

Race is a social construct.

cd603c (1) No.931861

>>923603
>dem shorts

Rhodesia lives on.

5cd61e (5) No.931892

>>925167
>They can live here in peace as long as they don't try to take power.

Translated from the African: They can live here in peace so long as they are completely dominated, and have no independent power of their own.


>Minority rule is wrong.


Yes, and the purpose of grand apartheid was essentially the same as that of European decolonization: to allow each race to have mastery over its own land.

The problem of course is that any dealings whatsoever between Africans and non-Africans lead to Africans being dominated even when territorial separation exist between the two.

The only way Africans could ever truly be free and independent would be if a giant wall of absolute separation was established between Africans and non-Africans. Apartheid was intended to be a step towards this, of course, but sentimentality and "practicality" interfered. The homelands were not economically self-sustaining, and without massive injections of cash and personnel seconded from White South Africa's civil service, they would have become even worse hellholes than they were and a massive humanitarian disaster would have resulted, something that would have been considered unacceptable by modern humanistic standards.

The ugly truth is that the demands of civilization and the demand for African self-determination and freedom are at odds with one another. Africans did not have a long life expectancy, literacy, and so on before their contact with outsiders, and if they were truly freed from us and our influence, they would devolve back to their original, primitive way of life.

When the UN, African nationalists and leftists whine about the legacy of colonialism and then in the same breath judge Africa poorly by European standards developed to judge European societies (HDI, GDP, literacy, life expectancy etc.) there is something quite ironic about it.

65bca7 (1) No.931913>>931946 >>931948

>>923597 (OP)
Pointless.

I don't see why they don't stay to Europe.

Africa is for Africans
Asia is for Asians
Europe is Europeans.


I guess they have the American mentality, but it's still pretty pointless considering they're surrounded by niggers who want to kill them as well as themselves

e87906 (1) No.931919

>>931701
your mom is a social construct

bb11dc (1) No.931936

A family friend I see every holiday gathering is a white gril who immigrated here from South Africa. She's pretty cool. Doesn't like blacks, Mandela, Mugabe, or what became of Rhodesia.

54eb03 (3) No.931946

>>931913
America for Americans.

5cd61e (5) No.931948>>931973

>>931913
>I don't see why they don't stay to Europe.

You might be surprised, but there is no magic "whitey card" that allows white citizens of African countries the automatic right to immigrate to the West.

Certainly if you have a specific connection (a grandparent with British/Portuguese/French/Spanish citizenship) it is possible, but otherwise, white citizens of African nations have no more legal right to go anywhere than the average Sipho.

99% of African countries' citizens don't have visa-free entry to anywhere, even as a tourist. And ironically enough, even with the loosening of travel sanctions since the Nats threw in the towel, it's actually harder than ever before to travel on a South African passport, because foreign governments don't trust any documents issued by the South African government today to be genuine.

In any case, professional whites are already leaving. Some farmers who can are packing up for Namibia, Georgia, Mozambique, anywhere that is less hostile and seem like a better option than SA.

But remember that with SA's fortunes, the rand is collapsing. Those who don't possess assets priced in foreign currencies are rapidly being restricted to the bush leagues in terms of what capital and qualifications they have to fund a move out of the country.

Even South African university degrees have been degraded. For a few years after 1994, apartheid-era university degrees were accepted in developed nations were accepted by Western employers as the equivalent of their say Australian or Canadian counterparts.

But as time passes - and as South Africa is increasingly perceived as "just another African nation," the prestige of anything to do with the country is fading. There was a time when a history of working for a South African employer, state or private, or having a South African education was as good as any in the world. Of course, because of apartheid there was a moral stigma associated with being a white South African, but South Africans had a reputation for competence. A South African police or military officer could fly out of Jan Smuts International, land in the US, and get a decent job in his field, even if he was looked down on as an agent of an immoral, racist state. Today, though, a CV with "South Africa" anything on it is a giant red flag. What do you associate South Africa and anything related to the place with now? AIDS. Incompetence. Corruption. Crime.

1612ee (1) No.931966

that picture is disgusting OP.

5cd61e (5) No.931973

>>931948
The savvy and more untrusting people left decades ago. In the 1970s, little ads started appearing in the back of South African newspapers advertising for consultancies to help people shift their assets and/or residence overseas. Both Perth Australia and Los Angeles CA were particularly popular destinations.

Thing is that a lot of the people who you see in videos like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMFvWUNIPQ8 were the descendants of National Party loyalists who had grown up in a very homogenous, ethnocentric, disciplined culture in which Afrikaners trusted the Government and Party leadership to do what was in their best interests. It was inconceivable to many that a party that had campaigned for decades under firm and stubborn-sounding slogans like "Stem Nasionale Party Vir Jou Volk en Vaderland" would stab them in the back the way it did.

More specifically, very few people realized at the time of the 1992 referendum exactly what they were voting for. "Do you support continuation of the reform process which the State President began on 2 February 1990 and which is aimed at a new Constitution through negotiation?" doesn't sound like a mandate for black rule in a unitary state, and it wasn't.

Most "Yes" voters were prepared to see the ANC and other liberation movements given a say in South Africa's national government (probably a mistake), but many, possibly even most believed that their leaders would negotiate a hard bargain and preserve some element of group rights and avoid what we are beginning to see now - the application of totally fanatical affirmative action and black economic employment laws that are decimating white and other minorities' employment and destroying South Africa's skills base.

bcb8c0 (1) No.931995

>>923603

Boers are so fucking cool.

ec6dc7 (1) No.932013>>932053

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>>923597 (OP)
There was a video about some White community in South Africa up on Youtube. Some company that owned a bunch of land, where all the people living in the community are shareholders.

The entire thing was pretty awesome. It literally looked like utopia had sprang up out of nothing. The area they owned was all green, farmland, schools, businesses, and then outside their property was about what you'd expect from Africa; nothing.

e5e11f (1) No.932026

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Yes, Africa is everywhere. It's cool to buy a whole legolamb from a halal butcher. Plenty of land here but many peoples prefer to move down oregon or california. Still I expect we'll triple our foreignborn again just as soon as the iraqi and afghani patriots flee here with their families. I feel like every adventure america has over the years has brought more citizens and that's proper payment in part for their alliance. In truth our naturalized citizens tend be the more socially backward especially the further inland you go. Be that as it may, if any africans come, welcome. If you stay, in africa, i expect your histories and civilizations have a bit more complexity than my city. so screw that pooch

5cd61e (5) No.932053

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>>932013
ENCA Checkpoint did a documentary on Orania which was actually breddy good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csrfAY4Obo8

Interview with Carel Boshoff at 4:00

365757 (1) No.932065

>>923603
I'm amazed they all haven't been disarmed



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