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MGTOW Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 02:48:23 44b575 No. 872312 [Last 50 Posts]
/pol/ please explain to me what the actual fuck MGTOW is. Few days ago, I thought they are a bunch of guys fighting the feminist bullshit. But recently I've been invited to some MGTOW group on kikebook, I've read a few dozen posts and all of them were talking exactly like feminists. And 90% of the group members are black Americans. It was like talking to 500 Tyrones Sarkeesians.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 02:49:25 044071 No. 872327
They're beta faggots and cowards. Fuck them.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 02:50:51 c8d9e6 No. 872343
distractionary movement that coopted the term "red pill"
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 02:54:26 2117c1 No. 872385
>>872312 ultravirgin self proclaimed "victims" of le matriarchy
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 02:56:28 44b575 No. 872415
>>872327 >>872343 >>872385 Ok, I see. So why most of them are ghetto niggers talking in some ghetto nigger language?
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 02:57:03 72290f No. 872422
>>872312 What facebook group? I know of one MGTOW on facebook that actualy isn't MGTOW. Also MGTOW isn't a movement it's a philosophy.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 02:58:08 4c8bc3 No. 872441
They are overreacting, though you can't really blame them.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 02:58:25 faaa75 No. 872445
>>872327 >>872385 >>872343 What, how is opting out of relationships and marriage ultravirgin or beta cowards? When it's very irrational for a man to get married in today's society
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 02:58:33 72290f No. 872448
>>872422 >I know of one MGTOW on facebook I know of one MGTOW group on facebook*
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:00:22 2117c1 No. 872481
>>872415 I dont know what the fuck you're on about now but I think one of the main MGTOW guys is half black or something. I forgot his name but he has talked about him being halfblack and halfwhite.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:03:14 0f33f4 No. 872518
They are a cross between /r9k/ /out and a sprinkling of /pol/
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:04:01 de8919 No. 872526
>>872312 MGTOW is older than this latest annoying spike in feminism.
Sounds like that facebook group is shit.
>>872327 Bowing to women's bullshit is beta. Fucking women without getting weighed down and distracted by their bullshit is alpha. It's the holy grail – bang chicks and still get things done and have fun doing guy stuff. If this isn't your goal in life then get your shit together, son.
Stop posting in this thread, go here, and watch a few videos:
http://www.mgtow.com/
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:07:47 a23ba4 No. 872580
>>872518 nah, the most extreme tier doesn't include sex, it involves "ghosting", which means avoiding contact with other people as much as possible, especially with women.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:10:00 2355b8 No. 872606
>And 90% of the group members are black Americans.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:10:03 9392a8 No. 872607
>>872415 Because facebook.
Why the fuck would you be using kikebook, OP?
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:10:34 72290f No. 872613
There has been alot of hate for MGTOW recently, there has been that cunt(admited female) that makes anti-MGTOW thread where she tries to shame MGTOW, that ultimately end in her just calling them names and spamming the same post over and over again. I know alot of traditionalist have a problem with it because they want the "good old days" back, and the whole anti marriage goes against that. white supremacists(for lack of better description) don't like them becuase most MGTOW dont want kids, so they get pissy at them for not "supporting the white race". Alot of people just don't actualy know what MGTOW is and they don't bother looking, they just assume its like the MRA, which doesn't like MGTOW either. Again I say, MGTOW is not a movement it is a philosophy.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:11:23 044071 No. 872622
>>872526 >Bowing to women's bullshit No one suggested that.
>Fucking women without getting weighed down and distracted by their bullshit is alpha. >not spreading your genetics is alpha No it's not. You're a complete fucking retard and a product of Feminism. Now cry some more about women and how they hurt your feelings or whatever.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:12:57 894abf No. 872649
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:16:57 de8919 No. 872677
>>872622 Do you know how to read?
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:22:59 154df6 No. 872749
MGTOW have decided to quit women. It's easy to come to that conclusion with a cost-benefit analysis.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:24:43 38268e No. 872775
>>872749 >Some even raise kids unknowingly that aren't theirs. mandatory paternity tests at birth now
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:31:30 154df6 No. 872848
>>872775 The government is never going to help you.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:45:40 857e7d No. 873014
Huh, I wonder if the large amount of black dudes in MGTOW is a result of black men being expected to be dominant BBCs that cuck wives away from their husbands or whatever. Obviously not all black men can be that, so only disappointment follows for white women who try to find that from some rando black guy. Plus that stereotype doesn't exactly help you get stable long term relationships.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:46:18 37c66f No. 873034
>>872343 Go get your tinfoil hat.
Actually they are just beta faggots who Think they can fight feminazis on kikebook.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:49:17 6a267b No. 873071
>>872445 No, more like MGTOWs cant get women (neither relationships or one night stands) and hide behind a label to disguise their incompetence
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:51:35 faaa75 No. 873101
>>873071 Many MGTOWs actually have regular one night stands and some say their sex lives have improved.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:53:03 6a267b No. 873115
>>873101 From what I understand, MGTOWs avoid women completely. An MGTOW who gets sex probably isnt an MGTOW
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:53:53 faaa75 No. 873130
>>873115 MGTOWs avoid marriage and relationships, that is, they don't become a woman's slave.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:54:01 a723d8 No. 873131
>>872749 18 years' child support, US average - $96'000
Legal fees to fend off some cunt who cries rape - $5'000
Freedom - priceless
There are some things money cannot buy
For everything else, there's MGTOW
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:56:07 a723d8 No. 873161
>>873115 It is possible to have sex and be MGTOW, though one is restricted to one-night stands.
Even a goat is preferable to the average American woman, think about it:
-the average goat is not overweight
-goats do not nag people to death
-goats smell better
-one is generally not worried about who else has shagged a goat
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:56:08 6a267b No. 873169
>>873130 yeah, only if your a beta faggot. Marriage I can understand, but relationships?
Sounds like MGTOWs just dont understand relationship dynamics and blame women for it
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:57:01 15796b No. 873183
>>873115 No. Otherwise I would just call it being celibate, not MGTOW.
I still get laid, not as much as I did when I had a gf naturally, but the only difference now is i refuse to entertain anything other than a casual relationship.
And even then in this climate of rape hysteria, I'm taking more and more measures to be cautious around women.
the cost-benefit ratio is just too skewed in this current society to treat women as anything other than disposable pleasures. Amusingly, or perhaps depressingly depending on your point of view, is that attitude of "you're really not important to me, at all" works wonders with attracting women.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:57:41 dcff8b No. 873188
>>872312 Short version: dudes saying I'm not marrying in my life. Not really beta, getting pussy is not shunned at all.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:57:58 d37d90 No. 873191
>>872526 alpha is hitler assad washigton etc men who can lead other men
degenerate is fucking women and leaving them weather you are a coward and dont want the responsibility that comes with a relationship or are a nig these are not alpha characteristics
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 03:58:22 37c66f No. 873200
>>873130 Slaves? Then they must be BETAMAXES.
Women are best treated like pets. Lots of love when they do good stuff but if they act bad then they get the leash
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:01:40 e3a938 No. 873247
>>873169 >but relationships? Are you some kissless virgin from r9k? Do you have any idea how manipulative women can be in a relationship? Particularly in North America, where women think that they are the center of the Universe, they expect you to treat them like the princesses they were made to believe they are, in exchange for a chance (a chance, never a guarantee) to bang the vagina. When you do, you become a betafag; when you don't, immediately you get the "you can't handle a strong woman like me" rhetoric.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:01:41 154df6 No. 873251
>>873191 >you are a coward and dont want the responsibility that comes with a relationship What does taking responsibility entail?
goyQuintinusGatsbius !P8eANdQMDg 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:04:14 d04ea3 No. 873281
>>872312 Men Going TO Wank.
Some kind of gay utopia where homosexual men don't need women.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:05:54 41c511 No. 873303
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:08:53 d9f5d0 No. 873335
Every single decision anyone might make about their lifestyle now needs its own radicalized movement hastag and facebook group.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:10:48 e8ff3c No. 873359
>>872526 >MGTOW is older than this latest annoying spike in feminism. This.
What do all these faggots believe monks and catholic priests are?
They're an organized form of MGTOW.
Well, not exactly, since they're not really going THEIR OWN way but a common one, yet they're the closest the average faggot knows about.
MGTOW doesn't need to be about religion, but it's always about truth. Guess that's why it forms whereever knowledge prospers.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:11:11 6a267b No. 873364
>>873247 You sound more like a kissless virgin to me. Either that or you just dont understand how to control women
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:23:25 894abf No. 873507
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:23:48 77c2c3 No. 873513
This vid explains it pretty well to me. Betas sell themselves short, other betas money see, monkey do and alphas simply collect intuitively
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:40:28 894abf No. 873704
>>873513 I'm glad the movie explained it to you so well. Your post however I could not coherently follow.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:42:15 044071 No. 873725
>>873359 >What do all these faggots believe monks and catholic priests are? People duped into celibacy. L2tantra, faggots.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:50:02 e8ff3c No. 873805
>>872725
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:56:13 77c2c3 No. 873866
>>873704 Betas have spread the idea that women are to be courted in a one way system of wining and dining, creating the beta-pussy mentality of expecting sex, thus not knowing how to actually attract female sexuality. Alphas intuitively attract female sexuality and have the position where they do not need to court anyone. Date women as your guest being treated, but don't tolerate women who expect it, who trade it for sex (though they may not), and don't tolerate women who don't reciprocate. Basically, fuck eachother because you both want it, and date in a give and take exchange.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 04:58:52 d6fff1 No. 873880
>>873281 Ah the gayniggers from outer space I loved that shit.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:04:56 9c4e78 No. 873944
>>872312 Basically, don't get married. Marriage is rigged against men. So avoid it. MGTOW is an easy philosophy where you learn to do what YOU want and not what women/girlfriends want. So if you are a man going YOUR OWN WAY you won't dislike what you are doing because you're choosing to do it and be what you want.
Right now two things are happening:
People trying to co-op it because its getting more known. MGTOW doesn't act like MRA groups fighting feminist as you mentioned OP. They are MRA male rights movement.
Feminist are freaking out because MGTOW youtubers like Sandman and Bar bar (Barbarosa) are calling out feminist bullshit. Thus they are trying to also derail the message of do what you want because YOU are the man. You don't have to be a fucking bitch puppet.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:08:56 894abf No. 873969
>>873944 marriage is not a scam if its what YOU want to do
MGTOW comrades should remember that many of us men do want to breed
you dont need to marry a feminist and there are many women who are submissive as fuck if you continue doing what you do and not kowtowing
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:12:10 e98e84 No. 874005
>>873014 I wonder if the large number of black men is a result of SJWs shitting in the discussion pool trying to turn men against each other by making that claim up. Look at most of the posts of those opposed to MGTOW. Almost all of them are designed to put things /pol/ doesn't like and assign them to MGTOW. I think we're being had by a smarter breed of SJW than the standard trigger-warning tumlristas.
We've been working for a long time to turn SJWs against each other, though it turns out they're much better at stabbing each other in the back than we ever could be at convincing them to hate each other. It shouldn't come as a surprise that some of them would catch on to our activities and use our methods against us. The big difference is that we aren't naturally hostile to our own kind like they are and we are smart enough to detect their outside influence.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:15:11 e8ff3c No. 874021
>>873969 Many men chose marriage when there was no "no fault" divorce.
Didn't save them in divorce court.
You may think you can stomach current divorce laws.
Wonder what surprise will await you…
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:15:08 9c4e78 No. 874023
>>873969 It is if you are doing government run marriage. Get married quietly in the church if you want. Have ten kids if you want. Arrange an online divorce if you want if it goes bad. But once you sign that court paper, you are no longer in control of your family's future if your spouse reveals a different side of herself she hid from you. You have NO control in a US gov court what will happen to your kids with some women.
And frankly I don't give a fuck if you gamble with your life. I am not falling for it and am wiser because of MGTOW and will do what I want including kids. Because im not getting married. EVER.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:16:11 894abf No. 874035
>>873866 >Alphas intuitively attract female sexuality and have the position where they do not need to court anyone. Date women as your guest being treated, but don't tolerate women who expect it, who trade it for sex (though they may not), and don't tolerate women who don't reciprocate. Basically, fuck eachother because you both want it, and date in a give and take exchange. That sounds like great advice to give to all young male family members.
The go on a date bullshit is so pussified and beta especially when you have all the MSM pushing ideas like making guys put on suits for first dates and treating prom like some great fancy specifically made to pleasure the mistress who may optionally still deny them sex
married men shouldnt all just go get divorced though
they need to regain the alpha
for some, their feminist partners wont take it because they only see them as a spineless wallet, but they are better off moving to another country than paying alimony and shit
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:17:13 841f4b No. 874042
>>872613 I'm down with the idea that celibacy can be a higher calling and that celibate man can do valuable things with their lives, but somehow I get the feeling that MGTOW just wind up watching anime and fapping to their waifus
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:17:31 905d42 No. 874047
It's the kids crying that there is no virtue in women.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:22:08 9c4e78 No. 874080
>>873034 tits or gtfo bitch
This is a man thread
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:23:53 4f9592 No. 874102
Reading this thread makes me think MGTOW would probably be best represented by pic related.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:26:06 894abf No. 874118
>>874023 So where do you plan to live?
Some form of common law marriage, especially if you have kids or cohabituate or worse both , does exist in most places.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:27:36 d9f5d0 No. 874130
>>874102 I just watched that episode. Based heterochromia admiral loves danger poontang.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 05:28:42 894abf No. 874143
>>874047 What would an average /pol/ack have to gain from shit talking men who choose not to put up with feminist demands?
False flag spotted just like
>>874005 pointed out
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 07:08:57 4e2519 No. 874523
>>873200 Wish it still worked that way. The law is generally on the womans side now. You are better off killing them and burying their body than dumping them or beating them these days.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 07:14:25 dd1329 No. 874571
>>873247 You have never been in a relationship post-grade school.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 07:20:16 e98e84 No. 874611
>>874047 Nice spin but your statement still boils down to "you can't handle a strong woman like me" shit. Virtuous men far outnumber virtuous women, making it an impossibility for more than a small fraction of virtuous men to have a virtuous woman. Sorry, we're not into your polygamous degenerate lifestyle. That's not virtuous.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:16:42 b24b7b No. 877658
>>874118 I live in Texas. We are fine with common law. But im not going to let any form of fucking government run my family life.
I will just form a family trust. End of legal problems.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:18:54 a6321e No. 877688
>>873169 I do not think a relationshit's benefits outweigh the costs, so I went my own way.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:20:28 0ede06 No. 877705
>>872622 Jesus dude, come on.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:22:14 0ede06 No. 877737
>>872749 Please don't say "getting cucked" because it doesn't make sense at all. Hate when people break and abuse words like that.
Did you get cheated on? A cuckold would enjoy watching that. You didn't get cucked, you got cheated on.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:25:47 bfb3f1 No. 877777
>>877737 Getting cuckolded the historical usage of the term.
Cuckold porn is called cuckold porn because you're watching someone being cuckolded.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:30:45 25b419 No. 877832
>>877777 what a waste, kill yourself
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:38:43 f51840 No. 877929
>>877809 she sure is purrdy
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:40:24 0a4e07 No. 877941
>>877832 He's right and wrong, though.
A cuckold, the one true definition of a cuckold, is: a man who raises children of other men.
However, in parochial discouse, when a woman cheats on her man we say he is cuckolded. However, cuckolded is an active stance, not a passive one.
Being cheated is a passive action, you have no control over it. You become a cuckold the moment you stay with the woman that has cheated on you.
A lot of people say you can't be a cuckold if you're not aware of it. I disagree with that. You're a cuckold if your woman has sex with other men, whether you know or not.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:53:15 5471d3 No. 878088
>>872343 You kidding? There's nothing authorities fear most than young men without purpose - large swaths of men giving up on women and becoming barely productive should be sound alarm bells in government about social unrest.
Government should be reigning in and silencing feminists with their bullshit rape hysteria and assault on liberties under the "protect the wymynz"-banner before young men who feel like they have nothing to lose change from a passive "going their own way"-approach to an active "change things to my own way"-approach.
>>873969 When judges throw away pre-nups and family courts are skewed against men, marriage is a fucking scam.
>>873014 >>874005 Have you seen the deplorable state of American Negresses? 4 out of 5 women are fat. The ones who aren't whose popping babies form different fathers are unbearable - the feminist myth of the "stronk nigger broad who needs no man" made women who are completely distrustful of men and they want to be controlling. Couple with affirmative action of both gender and race - black women are many times likely to be educated and require men to earn more than them, but black men are in the shitter because they get the short end of the education stick and together with many poor white their jobs were outsourced to China.
MGTOW is the rule among black men, they'd rather go to Brazil or marry a cute american Latina than marry an American black women - and that scares the shit out of them. Feminists destroyed the relations between black men and black woman - that's why you should be destroyed since that's what they plan to do with the relations between men and women regardless of race.
Video related, watch it.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:56:52 a45580 No. 878123
>>878088 >that's what they plan to do with the relations between men and women regardless of race I've actually heard something along those lines before
"if you wanna see America's future in 10 years, look at the black community today"
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:58:28 cb3be1 No. 878132
>>877809 >gif >not animated For fuck's sake. Learn about image formats.
Anonymous 01/09/15 (Fri) 23:59:01 4881ae No. 878137
>>877658 >I will just form a family trust. End of legal problems. Feels good when people listen, best of luck to you.
Now listen once more:
Tie membership to the group the Stiftung exists to serve to proven patrilinear genetic heritage.
No bitching about paternity tests. Either it's proven or no penny changes hands.
Again, best of luck to you.
You'll still need it.
Your money might be safe, your heart is not.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 00:05:48 e98e84 No. 878203
>>878088 Something I first noticed online but is true offline too: white women love to call themselves princesses while black women call themselves queens. Wonder why that is? My guess is black women have their own weird version of MGTOW in which they no longer are willing to rely on men so they identify with the strong image of a queen that is unanswerable to anyone and expects to always get her way. A princess on the other hand is also spoiled in wanting to always get her own way but relies on a man, the king, to protect and provide for her. White women haven't given up on men but they do see them primarily as a way to make their dreams of being a princess, free of responsibility, modesty, or work come true.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 00:07:01 925808 No. 878214
MGTOW = Cultural Marxism
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 00:10:19 212536 No. 878244
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 00:18:28 a0977b No. 878336
>>872312 Were you actually expecting intelligible discourse on the face recognition jew?
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 00:33:33 5471d3 No. 878504
>>878203 That's the same for nigresses, they want to be pampered and provided and will transform into little subservient princesses if they start dating a white or [east]-Asian guy, they just don't trust niggers (because their single-mothers taught them they shouldn't trust black men, they grew up listening that black men are worthless and internalized it - that's when they become queens, as per your example).
Also, the niggers raised by the same single-mothers see first hand how controlling and unbearable these women are and don't want to see themselves in the same position again under a wife. Others grew up to be beta and see themselves in position in which they're not alpha enough for a Babbie-momma but they're not omega enough to endure a entitled bitch - so they'd rather walk away.
What you're seeing is the feminist plan unfolding here, only instead of "liberation" is leading to frustration and loneliness and the destruction of the black community that seemed to be getting their shit together during and right after the civil rights before they got devastated by feminism and free love.
This is the same reason feminist try to bury the image of their own by the time they reach 40 as by that time they are not post-children for the movement - the single, lonely, fat women surrounded by cats is the true face of where feminism does to women and would cause them to run away in horror. That's why Jezebel fired that fat negresses that was their editor and replaced them with a young white cutie.
And guess what? That ruination is coming to whites and non-whites alike - or you think shit like #YesAllMen is just a hashtag?
Thinking about it actually makes me sad.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 00:46:40 0a4e07 No. 878645
>>878088 great documentary. wish more people saw it.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 00:52:22 e98e84 No. 878699
>>878214 Name calling is all you've got? Bored with your ad hominem attack calling them all virgins and neckbeards? They've done the calculations, have seen most women have negative value and aren't going to enter into a poor deal. Nothing Marxist about that, it's being a rational actor in the free market.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 00:57:07 e98e84 No. 878735
>>878504 Interesting observations. I'm not into Twitter so I hasn't seen that hashtag but I can guess what kind of madness lies behind it.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 07:18:49 38268e No. 880434
>>872848 samefag here
Not the best of timing given the shooting, but is there anything that can be done about the state of paternity testing in France? I think it's either totally outlawed or outlawed without the mother's consent for rage inducingly bad reasons.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 07:24:37 e98e84 No. 880453
>>880434 They're in the EU so the testing really isn't the issue. You can just send the sample off to a lab somewhere else in the EU to be tested. The difficulty is being able to do anything with the result should you not be the father. Any man who suspects he's been cucked should go ahead and have the test done. If it comes back that it is your child, you've removed a huge piece of doubt from your mind that would have eaten away at your marriage. If it comes back that it is not your child, things get a bit more difficult since you can't confront your wife with the results without admitting to a crime and it can't be used in court against her. Maybe you plan out a move for the family to another country, claiming it is for work, when in reality it is because testing is legal there and the divorce laws are not so tilted in the woman's favor.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 07:47:00 b23855 No. 880549
>>878088 This makes me want to visit Brazil.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 07:57:35 c3ac5c No. 880597
>>872580 And some of us will fuck bitches but won't cuntribute in the taxable parts of the economy.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 08:11:07 473209 No. 880665
>>873969 >betting half your shit she won't fuck jamal isn't a scam faggot/cuck/vagina detected
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 08:19:52 2287a1 No. 880713
>>872312 A bunch of whiners. I agree with them about marriage being too risky, but becoming reactionary against women because you can't hack pussy and feel threatened is just the kind of thing you'd expect from a society where men are transforming themselves into absolute faggots.
Add MRAs to that mix: men who want to be vulnerable, irrational, and act and dress like women.
MRA and MGTOW is basically tranny training for the modern emasculated male who was raised primarily by women.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 08:55:22 408287 No. 880889
>>874047 >MGTOW = Cultural Marxism No MGTOW is pure capitalist individualism.
It is the polar opposite of Cultural Marxism.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 09:05:38 96f135 No. 880938
>>880453 you really cant do that if they catch tests from other country Thousands euro fine and jail time for you
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 09:15:07 e98e84 No. 880989
>>880938 If you really suspect your wife of something, it would would be worth traveling across the border to have the test done. The authorities in France won't know that you had a test performed while in Spain or some other nearby country. Heck, Switzerland isn't even part of the EU.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 09:17:29 e98e84 No. 880999
>>873969 No one is stopping you. It's Men Going Their Own Way, not Every Man Being Forced To Go Without Women. If you want to be part of the curreny Marxist system, that's your choice. No one is going to stop you. Stop making yourself into a victim when no one is trying to oppress you.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 09:20:20 a75b2a No. 881014
Is bullshit.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 10:45:33 96f135 No. 881371
>>880989 I think you still need agreement of both sides otherwise they wont do tests
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 13:48:47 c22137 No. 882573
>>872327 Angry woman detected.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:19:16 9cc797 No. 882816
>>880999 Dem trips and dat truth.
ᚾᚪᛗᛖᛚᛖᛋᛋ 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:24:38 078624 No. 882860
>>878699 she is repellent beyond belief
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:31:03 fb38e6 No. 882898
/fringe/ jew threadsage and hide
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:41:45 15ec1a No. 882995
>>873944 >barbarossaaaa I can't stand the guy anymore. I liked him when he was just an angry spic ranting against women. Now he is just a pretentious prick making long boring rants about nothing.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:43:10 e98e84 No. 883004
>>881371 In every single country in Europe? How would a testing lab in Spain even know if the other parent is even alive?
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:46:52 eceda8 No. 883033
>>883004 It's a group of men, like myself that got fucked over by the legal system and women. There's lots of shills that false flag it as 'virgins that hate women'.
I Was fucked over by the US courts to owe child support to a kid that ain't mine. I'm living in Thailand, AMA I guess.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:48:05 f03a5a No. 883040
>>872312 hate them, but at least the feminists have a taste of their own poison
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:47:57 eceda8 No. 883045
>>883033 Before Thailand I lived in Europe, South America and the UAE, for some background.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:49:16 eceda8 No. 883059
>>883045 Not gonna lie all were fucking amazing.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:56:54 d9f5d0 No. 883122
Thread made me curious so watching Sandman's intro video on MGTOW
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 14:58:33 eceda8 No. 883134
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 15:05:34 eb58d2 No. 883202
>Women are muh enemy!
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 15:57:13 d8cc18 No. 883626
>>883202 I literally have no incentive to do otherwise.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 16:04:29 d8cc18 No. 883695
Modern dating.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 16:51:35 00ec04 No. 884100
>>883695 lol what is this from?
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 21:19:26 970c80 No. 886703
>>872775 Some governments have already banned DNA tests to determine who the real father is
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 21:37:54 b7ad32 No. 886908
>>882995 Pretty much this. Sandman is by far the best and most consistent MGTOW youtuber now.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 21:54:12 613891 No. 887070
>>873071 Actually, most MGTOWs are divorced.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 22:05:13 b45abe No. 887165
>>873944 Basically this. Its not what the hive-mind echo chamber that is this thread is calling them; AKA a bunch of "pussies who whine about women". All it is is a collective of men who don't trust the fickle nature of the female and would rather opt out of a system that is horribly biased against them. With the condition of the divorce court, on top of the fact that society as a whole puts pussy on a pedestal, MGTOW is the only logical conclusion.
>>873969 Enjoy losing half of what you own in the divorce courts. You are playing Russian roulette with a half-loaded magnum.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 22:12:20 f37e77 No. 887246
>>887070 They still tend to br betamax though. Stardusk, for example, suffered physical abuse from his wife. She tried to kill him while he was sleeping, lel. How stupid do you have to be to end up with a psycho like that?
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 22:21:39 af0787 No. 887312
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 22:25:15 c24ac4 No. 887348
>>886703 WHAT. Which governments, where?
I need to know so that I never go there.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 22:27:42 8f1e94 No. 887378
>>887348 France and Sweden, I believe.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 22:32:33 8e3086 No. 887422
>>872312 They were probably black, because black women are everything bad about white women x 100. & they are ugly.
Anonymous 01/10/15 (Sat) 22:47:23 e2c931 No. 887560
It's another term that is actually quite vague and general, but has been hijacked by people who belong to aforementioned groups. These individuals have then twisted the original meaning to fit their agenda and to make money off of it.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 03:44:49 26d260 No. 890703
>>872415 Because black men actually have more problems due to feminism and female entitlement than white men.
Not all black men, of course. Niggers who want to coast through life and do nothing are fine, but guys who want to marry and settle down and raise kids have it really hard. They have to compete against the state and a culture that doesn't look down upon Section 8, EBT, food stamps, and welfare.
Also, the typical black guy is probably never going to make that much, so it's much harder for him to compete with the state in terms of what he can offer a family relative to a white guy or Asian guy.
If all of this meant that blacks had fewer kids, I wouldn't have an issue with it. Instead, the state is just doing the same thing and paying them for every baby they turn out.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 03:47:25 26d260 No. 890722
>>886908 Sandman has some decent videos, but Spetsnaz and John the Other are imho the best.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 03:50:43 af5ab5 No. 890758
>>872312 MGTOW is a kike-created organization designed to get white men to hate women and either go gay or not breed.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 03:52:56 f84686 No. 890773
>>872312 MGTOW is the conclusion of a man who can use his brain to weigh costs and benefits instead of his penis.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 04:01:29 f0df2b No. 890865
>>890703 Yup. It's really sad how many people hate niggers when a lot of the ghetto culture arose as a result of feminism. The cancer struck black communities first and only now is the rest of America getting to craw into bed with it.
Whites complain about the media's dindu muffins in the media. Blacks hate that shit too! Blacks don't want niggers like Michael Brown in the street. It's bad for business - legitimate business, ie. not the crack cocaine business. What they DO hate is liberal faggots who enable the problem and - guess what? They (the liberals / feminists / CIA crack dealers) happen to be white. You can see how a lot of unnecessary racism props on both sides. At this point, the Jew is the only obvious culprit at this point.
MGTOWs are people who don't realize that in the past, women couldn't vote. Men did, and men voted to open the pandora's box and unleash the hell of women's poor policies onto the public. Men are the only group of people with any shot at fixing this mess, but the MGTOWs have decided it's not worth it and have decided to abandon civilization. Is it fair that men today have to inherit the fuckups of entitled cunts a generation before? No.
But did great men of the past encounter problems of the past and say "Well, this is pretty bad. I'm out of here!"? Did Hitler say "Well, Weimer Germany is pretty degenerate and full of Jews. I'm leaving the system!"? What would Germany be like today if he did?
MGTOWs are giving up any chance they have at becoming the next Fuhrer.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 04:06:08 df93ff No. 890908
Guys who believe modern institutions like divorce courts and what have you are utter meat grinders for men, which I agree with.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 04:36:50 1d9a68 No. 891227
>>890865 >Did Hitler say "Well, Weimer Germany is pretty degenerate and full of Jews. I'm leaving the system!"? What would Germany be like today if he did? Considering what german talents achieved divided, both those who fled and those who were captured, not to speak of all who died…
The nation leading the colonisation of the whole solar system.
>MGTOWs are giving up any chance they have at becoming the next Führer. We're better off with more Teslas.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 05:06:38 e98e84 No. 891464
>>887378 As far as I know, those are the only two currently but I could see it spreading to other feminist dominated countries but ultimately it will be futile. People are already finding out through services like 23andMe that their paternity is wrong. 23andMe doesn't do paternity testing but it does match you up with your relatives. There have been many cases where a father and "his offspring" have both done the dna testing and had it tell them they couldn't possibly be related. That wasn't intentional paternity testing but simply a side effect. Genetic testing for a wide variety of medical reasons is spreading fast. There's simply no way they're going to be able to hide this forever without reducing the value of genetic tests. Good luck explaining to the public why someone should die from a treatable condition if identified early through genetic testing in order to hide the slutty behavior of dishonest women.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 05:10:23 e98e84 No. 891497
>>890865 >MGTOWs are giving up any chance they have at becoming the next Fuhrer. You must have us confused with halfchan. Hitler isn't automatically considered a God here.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 06:19:12 35ca2e No. 892036
>>880889 lol no
Feminism is the hammer of Cultural Marxism. MGTOW and PUA is the anvil.
Why do you think the cultural Marxists were so keen on making feminism? To better the lives of women? lol
They wanted to destroy the family unit, the base of any society. They started with women, because women are more easily bamboozled. They made them obnoxious and unbearable, taught them that their vices were actually virtues, destroyed the definition of "rape," and made marriage to them completely unattractive.
Then the men stand up and say, "you know what, fuck you guys, I'm not getting married or having a family AT ALL!" And they say it with such defiance, as if that's hasn't been the goal this entire time!
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 18:59:05 b7ad32 No. 897970
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>>873969 Marriage = betting a woman half your stuff that she won't leave you
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 19:01:18 160248 No. 897984
>>892036 Have you stopped to consider that marriage, and the resultant cuckolding, alimony, child support, and general pilfering of men's assets is a great incentive for women? In fact, it could be the greatest incentive a young woman may have. That incentive is evaporating very rapidly. This is not a simple zero sum game we are talking about. By men refusing to marry, women are forced to spend their prime years as a cubicle drone or Starbucks barista, and in 5 years they are out of the game. Permanently.
As the economy continues to crumble, more and more women are attempting to distance themselves from the word "feminism". This does little good, however, because men inherently understand that just because a woman does not openly proclaim to be a feminist, does not mean she wont file divorce papers or false rape accusations at the drop of a hat.
In the end, if only one in ten men decides to MGTOW, that is 10 women fighting over 9 men. Times that by a hundred, then a thousand, then a million. Rather quickly, you have a large pool of single women that are effectively single for life, and their hopeless situation will resonate with their peers like ripples in a pond. Now take that calculation and shift it to 2 of 10 men, then 3 of ten men (which incidentally is about where we are right now), then 4 of ten men. You can see how things will become not progressively worse for women, but exponentially worse for women.
Where feminism may very well be the Marxist hammer, MGTOW is not the anvil, but the furnace. We may see a situation evolve that is similar to the post-Soviet relationship paradigm. In that, men completely ignore and disdain women, and only give very limited attention to women that bring a great deal of benefit to the table. The women that are not the very cream of the crop are literally less than garbage in the eyes of men in the former Soviet Union. The high quality women are thrilled if a man offers to take them out for coffee, and married women understand that a husband can and most certainly will have several girls on the side.
tl;dr the current system is unsustainable, and will collapse under the weight of MGTOW
inb4 calling bullshit - I lived in Brno, Czech Republic for a year, and Kherson, Ukraine for a year.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 19:01:47 160248 No. 897999
>>892036 Have you stopped to consider that marriage, and the resultant cuckolding, alimony, child support, and general pilfering of men's assets is a great incentive for women? In fact, it could be the greatest incentive a young woman may have. That incentive is evaporating very rapidly. This is not a simple zero sum game we are talking about. By men refusing to marry, women are forced to spend their prime years as a cubicle drone or Starbucks barista, and in 5 years they are out of the game. Permanently.
As the economy continues to crumble, more and more women are attempting to distance themselves from the word "feminism". This does little good, however, because men inherently understand that just because a woman does not openly proclaim to be a feminist, does not mean she wont file divorce papers or false rape accusations at the drop of a hat.
In the end, if only one in ten men decides to MGTOW, that is 10 women fighting over 9 men. Times that by a hundred, then a thousand, then a million. Rather quickly, you have a large pool of single women that are effectively single for life, and their hopeless situation will resonate with their peers like ripples in a pond. Now take that calculation and shift it to 2 of 10 men, then 3 of ten men (which incidentally is about where we are right now), then 4 of ten men. You can see how things will become not progressively worse for women, but exponentially worse for women.
Where feminism may very well be the Marxist hammer, MGTOW is not the anvil, but the furnace. We may see a situation evolve that is similar to the post-Soviet relationship paradigm. In that, men completely ignore and disdain women, and only give very limited attention to women that bring a great deal of benefit to the table. The women that are not the very cream of the crop are literally less than garbage in the eyes of men in the former Soviet Union. The high quality women are thrilled if a man offers to take them out for coffee, and married women understand that a husband can and most certainly will have several girls on the side.
tl;dr the current system is unsustainable, and will collapse under the weight of MGTOW
inb4 calling bullshit - I lived in Brno, Czech Republic for a year, and Kherson, Ukraine for a year.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 19:19:11 b7ad32 No. 898176
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>>897984 This guy gets it. Supply and demand. Only a small tweak in the supply will have huge effects on women's attitudes and how they will change the way they currently treat men like disposable appliances.
And once the male birth control pill hits the markets (within the next 2-3 years) it will change things even more. Women have had control of birth control for 50 years now and that comes to an end when the male birth control comes out. Some feminist controlled governments will try to ban it but it will be useless as people will still be able to order it online and bring it in to the country themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0mImwSPtlg
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 19:28:59 b7ad32 No. 898266
>>892036 >>890908 >>890773 The genie is out of the bottle. MGTOW just hit critical mass. Feminists and their enablers about to be BTFO
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 19:41:34 29eb4f No. 898393
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 19:45:30 fdcb0a No. 898430
>>872343 surveillance is a moot point if society gets to the point that people aren't breeding
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 19:47:57 07286c No. 898461
MGTOW isn't one person.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:01:24 a45580 No. 898585
>>897984 It's already starting to happen
I work in an office thats mostly women, out of about 90-100 people there's maybe 4 guys
a lot of these girls are younger, mid 20's/late 20's
the biggest thing they talk about is how they can't get guys to commit or settle down with them
well that, and talk about "upgrading" on their guy
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:10:40 609505 No. 898672
A bunch of special snowflakes who claim to do something they don't actually. Men have abandoned corrupt society since there has been society, they were monks and hermits; MGTOW talk about how they reject society but yet still live in society, still work and toil to support it, still buy into its consumerism, still worship at the altar of its materialism, hell still even consort with women of low moral character, yet proclaim they're above it all.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:18:06 609505 No. 898737
>>872518 >(Casual sex is aye okay) Yep, women are terrible disloyal sluts, but hey, it's ok when I do the moral equivalent!
Except, no, by rewarding them with attention and dickings, you only encourage and validate them and are participants in the same destructive social order you claim to want to abandon.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:21:25 609505 No. 898763
>>872526 >Fucking women without getting weighed down and distracted by their bullshit is alpha. That's the contemporary female definition of alpha, a playa who fucks a lot of sluts, focuses on himself, his appearance, his acquisition of material wealth, the satiation of his ego above all else. And that's about it. Female equivalents of hypergamous sluts and feminists.
The traditional male definition of alpha is leaders of men. How many playa club goers would you submit to as leader?
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:26:52 609505 No. 898797
>>872613 >Again I say, MGTOW is not a movement it is a philosophy. It's not even that. It;s a cheap, flimsy rationaliztion for living a self-centered life of ego gratification. Same basic philosophy feminists and liberals subscribe to, the equal and opposite reaction.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:32:26 609505 No. 898832
>>873725 >duped into celibacy Yeah, because tht's something that ever happens, because not acting on sexual urges and working to suppress and overcome physical desire is something one can be tricked into, and not something one must work at diligently to maintain.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:33:44 f7cb40 No. 898839
MGTOW are dudes who did a cost-benefit analysis of marriage and relationships with women and decided it wasnt worth it. That's fine and all but then they went and created a community where they circlejerk about their decisions which is pretty gay.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:33:38 8d9a63 No. 898841
>>898672 Well, yeah. Have you PLAYED World of Warcraft? Monks didn't have that.
I mean, come on. Can just do that for the rest of your days and never touch another woman.
Lots easier.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:35:43 70fdd4 No. 898858
I am MGTOW and so many cluless faggots in this thread don't even know what MGTOW is. MGTOW doesn't give a fuck about society or feminism, those who claim to do so, are not MGTOW, they are traditionalist/MRM faggots.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:37:32 609505 No. 898865
>>898858 >MGTOW is about self improvement and self interest, we don't bend over for anyone. Well, you go gurl! Eat, Pray, Love amirite?
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:38:47 2188ab No. 898876
>>872312 I've come to find that the words "beta" and "passive aggressive" best describes them.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:44:24 35ca2e No. 898901
>>898865 He's a strong, independent man who don't need no woman.
A man without a woman is like a fish without a bicycle.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:50:16 70fdd4 No. 898953
>>898865 Fuck off degenerate shit, your pathetic attempt at ridicule doesn't affect me.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:51:14 72e1b3 No. 898963
MGTOW is a homosexual cult that dupes men into hating women, gets them drunk, and then next thing they know their dick is being sucked off by a mustache adorned set of man lips.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 20:53:22 70fdd4 No. 898981
>>898876 I am MGTOW and I am no beta, I work out, am smart and independent. These qualities attract women, I get attention from women, but I don't treat them special or nice at all, I do no favors for them, I tell them the truth to their face without giving a fuck about their feelings and they can't stay away from me :) I just fuck them and throw them away, no fucking cumslut will parasite off me ;)
>>898901 That is right, I don't need women. I am my own god, I am all I need, I dominate, I dictate, I rule, within my world. A woman who wants to be part of my world, must KNEEL before me. Since I am independend and have no weaknesses women, can't manipulate or control me, I am the one in control, I dominate, I rule.
Stay mad cumsluts, betafaggots, wannabe alphas.
MGTOW is true alpha.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:01:20 7c3d18 No. 899030
>>898963 My god that was funny. That image.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:03:04 72e1b3 No. 899045
>>898981 Nice try. I can smell the autism wafting from your post. You're "alpha" in the same way Davis Aurini is "alpha."
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:05:07 70fdd4 No. 899067
>>899045 I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not :) who the fuck is Davis Aurini and why the fuck should I care?
I dominate in my life and improve every day and nobody controls me, stay mad faggot slave, I will laugh if you get raped in the divorce :)
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:06:06 e450d3 No. 899071
>>898981 lol, I think you took it a little too far. You just sound like a narcissistic ass-hole who has delusions of grandeur.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:06:23 35ca2e No. 899074
>>898981 "A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." - Gloria Steinem
Anyway, your post reeks autism, you hopeless faggot. At least get an understanding of the forces that influence you before you declare yourself master.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:05:59 609505 No. 899075
>>898953 Sorry that you dislike that I pointed out the fact that, by and large, MGTOW is the same Eat, Pray, Love egotism that was peddled to femicunts rebranded and peddled to men. And you bought it!
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:13:06 d11ba2 No. 899118
>>899075 This implies men and women have the same nature. Pretty much all of a womens value is in her ability to have children, Men on the other hand have been behind almost all advances in society and do most of the actual work, men can have great value with or without women. Now of course there are exceptions here but I'm talking about the vast majority, not a few outliers.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:13:41 70fdd4 No. 899123
>>899071 Implying I give a fuck what faggot slave sheeple think about me.
>>899074 Stay mad virgin faggot, keep treating girls nice and getting raped while I treat them like shit and get pussy, you hate me because you lack my attributes, you try to make yourself feel better by trying to insult me, but you fail to understand that I have ascended to such a high level of understanding and being, that your opinion doesn't affect me :)
I know more about any force inflencing humans you piece of shit, I am extremely wise and knowledgeable when it comes to Biology and Philosophy, stay mad.
>>899075 Nope, it isn't. Nice try cumslut/betafaggot/kike. You can't control me ;) I am a free man, deal with it, no parasite will get to feed off me ;)
MGTOW Prime, get the fuck out of my way or get crushed. Not even the gods can make me kneel, you think you cumsluts/inferior XX chromomse whores/betafaggots/Kikeniggers can? Don't make me laugh.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:20:34 e450d3 No. 899159
>>899123 Then you can never get anything accomplished, considering you are entirely dependent on others for survival/entertainment. The food you ate today, the clothes you wear, the shelter over your head, the computer you are bitching on.
In truth you are just afraid to interact with people and consider other opinions. But it's fine to be a beta-autist that puts himself on a pedestal to avoid things that are uncomfortable.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:20:29 e52ac3 No. 899164
>>899075 Eatpraylove means
>I'm to glorious to have only one slave! MGTOW means
>I won't be a slave. You cannot be so dumb not to get this, so I guess it's just the rustled jimmies you're after.
Either that or you express how rustled your jimmies are
stay mad, cumdumpster
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:22:34 dee514 No. 899180
A bunch of chads that still want the pussy pretend like they don't.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:22:41 70fdd4 No. 899181
>>899159 You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about faggot. People can do all those things you said for me, I still don't give a fuck about their opinion. I only care about the opinions of the intelligent and strong. Fuck off weak beta faggot.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:22:44 27dcdf No. 899186
It's fine if a dude wants to go do what he wants, but if he spends all his life making butthurt videos about it he's probably just fooling himself. Instead of "going his own way" he sticks around to bicker like a highschool girl.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:27:13 e450d3 No. 899219
>>899181 You care enough to keep responding apparently. If you truly were alpha you wouldn't need to beat your chest on an image board.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:27:24 70fdd4 No. 899220
>>899180 We don't pretend we don't, we just won't let pussy control us, like you faggot beta weak dumb shit.
I remember thise whore one time tried to control me, saying "If you don't do that for me, we won't have sex". I stood up, laughed like a fucking psychopath, opened the door and said "Get the fuck out…". I still remember her fucking face, saying "What!?". and I replied: "You obviously don't understand who wears the pants in this relationship, get the fuck out now". She left crying like a bitch, expecting me to come after her and apoligize. I ignored her for 4 days and she came back and apoligized and I fucked her right after it. 1 month later I dumbped that slut because I was bored and had to ignore her calls for a while till she finally fucked off xD
I love being MGTOW Prime, I control women because I control myself, I have no weaknesses, I am not dependend on pussy like you thirsty betafaggots and wannabe alphas.
Stay mad, and cry me a river, try to damage my image and ridicule me, I laugh at you faggots.
Not even the gods can make me kneel, what chance do you cumsluts/inferior XX feminazis/kikenigers/betafaggots have?
I am my own god ;)
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:28:29 eb350b No. 899235
>>899075 The Eat Pray Love reaction wouldn't be possible without the power of a state to force child support payments
MGTOW on the other hand is completely self-sustainable
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:29:14 845fff No. 899236
I watched some MGTOW youtube videos for a while. was sort of intrigued at first, they have better points than feminists. but as I watched I realized they're like male feminists. complaining about how men and women interact, muh victim complex, what about equality ? men and women have different niches– there will never be "equality". deal with it or shut up. do whatever you want but don't make some stupid "movement" trying to alienate men from women like feminism.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:29:52 70fdd4 No. 899243
>>899219 I am laughing at you faggots trying to ridicule me, this is for my own pleasure, I am not here to prove anything, convince anyone or help anyone.
Fuck all of you, I hate the dumb and weak sheeple.
The information is out there, those who are WORTHY, they will HELP THEMSELVES.
In this world of eternal struggle, to live is to devour others, only the worthy will survive, only the strong and intelligent will dominate.
Stay mad betafaggot. MGTOW Prime 4 lyfe.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:33:52 e450d3 No. 899272
>>899243 Actually this is a really clever debate tactic. You're setting up a retarded over-the-top MGTOW persona so it can be knocked down. Making yourself a straw-man to amplify the types of insecurities and logical fallacies real adherents have.
What is MGTOW? Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:34:09 9b15cb No. 899280
Men get treated (what they consider) badly by a few girls.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:35:22 35ca2e No. 899287
>>899220 >>899243 No you're not. You're an insecure faggot beating his chest on the replacement asshole of the asshole of the internet (which is the asshole of humanity).
If a man tells you you're acting like an idiot, you're probably acting like an idiot. It would be a good time to dig deep, do some soul searching, and try and be less of an idiot.
Instead of doing that, you're going to judge the truth of any situation based around how it makes you feel, just like a woman. You think that if somebody tells you that your behavior is stupid, they're just trying to bring you down. Your answer is to beat your chest and avoid all accountability, and lash out at your detractors.
In this case, you don't know anything about your "attackers," so you make shit up, giving them the attributes that you so despise.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:39:19 70fdd4 No. 899321
>>899287 Stay mad betafaggot/inferior XX feminazi/kikenigger/cumslut, your shaming language doesn't affect me ;)
I am a free man, I don't kneel before anyone, stay butthurt I fuck women and throw them away and they can't stay away from me xD
MGTOW Prime for lyfe, it feels good to be my own god.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:52:07 e52ac3 No. 899446
>>899272 >Actually this is a really clever debate tactic. It would be if she'd be a little more subtle about it.
Obvious false flag is obvious.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:59:21 609505 No. 899509
>>899164 No, both Eat, Pray, Love and MGTOW are: FUCK EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I'M FOCUSING ON ME!
The vast majority of MGTOW's who write shit on the internet are all about HERP DERP I LIFT, FUCK BITCHES AND DO WHAT I WANT, I'M SO ALPHA, I'VE SO GONE MY OWN WAY! How is that going your own way, when that's what mainstream culture tells us all that's what we should be doing: vainly obsessing on appearance, indulging in casual sex, and having no thoughts for the future, no obligations to the past, hell no obligations whatsoever. YOLOSWAG!
You're a consumerist slave just like the rest.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 21:59:06 70fdd4 No. 899513
>>899446 >>899272 Implying this is a persona, I am the real deal faggots, not my problem you are so dumb and weak that you think what I have achieved is out of grasp and must be a persona, lol, epic faggots.
sage sage 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:04:29 e450d3 No. 899551
>>899513 Honestly the false flag is getting old at this point. Just let the thread slide and try to be a bit more subtle next time MGTOW comes up.
The "MGTOW Prime for lyfe, it feels good to be my own god." and other boilerplate at the bottom of your posts makes it kinda obvious it's a troll or someone with actual mental issues. Then it's just poe's law at that point.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:06:40 609505 No. 899579
>>899118 No, we both have the same human nature, we merely have different roles. That's why both males and females are able to be seduced with the same "ABANDON YOUR DUTIES AND OBLIGATIONS AND LIVE FOR YOURSELF!" garbage.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:09:27 70fdd4 No. 899612
>>899551 Fuck off retarded niggerkike, I already told you I am the real deal, I don't give a fuck what if you think I am not sincere.
MGTOW Prime for lyfe, it feels good to be my own god.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:11:16 c98d7a No. 899634
>>873866 lrn2history
this brohistory shit stinks. fucking boil it down to alpha and beta wont you and remove ANY context whatsoever…..fucking cavemen
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:12:26 d11ba2 No. 899637
>>899579 >different roles You're missing the point. That male "role" is responsible for just about every advancement in any society ever. 99.9% of women can only have a net benefit on society by having more men. Men on the other hand can have a net benefit on society with or without Children.
sage 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:15:43 e450d3 No. 899678
>>899612 You are not sincere, it's obvious. I dislike the MGTOW label just as much as you apparently do, and false flag tactics can be effective. But right now you sound like an emo-level faggot bitching "that nobody understands me".
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:17:38 d11ba2 No. 899689
>>899579 Continuing from the last post
>No, we both have the same human nature "We're all just human" Irrelevant, this is the same bullshit "anti racists" bring up whenever somebody talks about the differances between races. Neanderthals and Homo Erectus's were humans too.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:17:10 e52ac3 No. 899690
>>899509 If you honestly think something that has at it's very core betrayal is the same as a philosophy that seeks to make its practitioner immune to betrayal, any further conversation is pointless.
Enjoy your blindfolded worldview.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:17:53 c98d7a No. 899691
>>880549 i have a chilean girlfriend and no regrets
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:20:49 70fdd4 No. 899720
>>899678 Fuck off woman, I am MGTOW prime, stay mad and let hate rule you, you hate reality and deny it, not my problem, I will continue to live as a free man and dominate.
Thank you MGTOW.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:21:33 d11ba2 No. 899723
>>899720 Ignore shills like this guy
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:23:28 af5ab5 No. 899737
If you needed evidence that MGTOW is a bullshit kike tactic to get white men to avoid women and breeding, this thread is excellent proof.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:25:41 70fdd4 No. 899755
>>899723 Keep denying reality and calling those who hurt your feeling "shills" fucking weak woman, you are not my equal, you are inferior.
MGTOW for lyfe.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:26:44 551cde No. 899768
Men have 2 options in the modern first world:
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:28:49 70fdd4 No. 899783
>>899768 I am MGTOW and I will have children, without marriage, stay mad kikenigger.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:30:18 fa42ff No. 899802
>>899768 Option 2 is technically better since only a select few will survive the nuclear holocaust which will occur within the next 20 years.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:30:53 e450d3 No. 899807
>>899783 And those single mother's will rely on the state or a cuck-fag to raise them. Enjoy you're common-core educated bastard children who don't know what it means to have a strong masculine presence.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:32:19 551cde No. 899826
>>899783 I'm sure your children will grow up fine without a loving mother. They also won't resent as they when they learn you for hired a surrogate and knowingly brought them into this world without a loving family.
I know this guy is trolling but the point stands for some people who think that this is a viable option - to avoid marriage but still get children. Your children will hate you with time.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:32:23 c98d7a No. 899831
>>881371 dont think so tim
>>886703 bull shit
>>887378 no way dude! fucked up
>>891464 i was just going to recommend something like that for those who live in "paternity tests illegal" lands…..family tree shit
>>898176 that is so fucked up!
i have no words!
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:33:52 0fb7bf No. 899848
>>899826 >Fathers are worse parents than mothers lel
Have your worshiped the pussy today?
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:34:36 e450d3 No. 899857
>>899826 >Your children will hate you with time. And this is really the whole goal of MGTOW, destruction of the nuclear family. Take men out of the equation and the state/media can indoctrinate them however they please.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:34:50 c98d7a No. 899861
>>898763 >The traditional male definition of alpha is leaders of men. How many playa club goers would you submit to as leader? i use something similar when i talk about this alpha beta complex with people. i go by the old old definition of alpha.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:35:30 b88777 No. 899883
>>899768 >Don't get married, but never have children to be your heirs or take care of you into your old age. well let me ask you this, how many old people do you know who've been casually thrown away to die quietly in a nursing home by their children?
having kids ain't no guarantee that they'll take care of your old ass, instead of fighting over your inheritance instead
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:37:11 551cde No. 899898
>>899848 A very recent historical trend does not negate millions years of evolution. Children need a mother to grow up properly. Nature will put you in your place, as it has for everything in history.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:37:30 0fb7bf No. 899901
>>899898 >F-facts don't prove me wrong
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:38:22 551cde No. 899917
>>899901 Go on man, give the facts and school me, I'm waiting.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:40:01 70fdd4 No. 899943
>>899807 Hey niggerkike, single mother? What the fuck are you talking about? I won't abandon my future sons, I will teach and train them. I just won't marry so the fucking state has the legal right to anal rape my if my wife decides to cheat/divorce. My wife can fuck off if she does that, that is the beauty of not getting married. Stay mad kikenigger/XXfeminazi/cumslut.
>>899826 No they won't. Their mother will live with me if she is loyal and carries her own weight, if she doesn't, she can fuck off and I will tell my children the truth about their mother ;)
Stay mad retarded kikenigger, MGTOW prime for lyfe.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:40:18 c98d7a No. 899948
>>899220 >started figuring out stuff along the lines of mgtow >had a girl i was banging for fun >we bang >have to study for exam >politely try to kick her out >she was shocked and tried to guilt/control me. >OUT. >but >OUT. >i studied >i smoked some green >i aced the final felt like a fuckin boss….and she crawled back
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:41:15 551cde No. 899952
>>899883 That's a good point. But at the same time, by having no kids, you have no chance at having a family of your own to give all of your shit to when you die.
If you have had a shitty family with no unity/traditions/bonding, then you can bet that you would be highly likely to fall into the category of those who were forgotten in a nursing home.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:41:31 35ca2e No. 899956
>>899883 I never could follow this argument.
It's like saying, "How many people do you know who get insurance and drive safe still end up getting in a wreck? Therefor let's not get insurance and not drive safe!"
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:44:03 120d58 No. 899987
>>899898 I'm a widower with a young child. My wife died just after childbirth and I'm doing a fine job. Cunt.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:46:43 551cde No. 900016
>>899943 Okay, well even if she isn't loyal or carrying her own weight, the family courts still side with the female (as long as she isn't drug addicted or clinically insane), and you will lose custody, and have to pay child support as well as alimony. Even if you aren't married by an institution, you will still be considered common law marriage by the state due to cohabitation, which is a necessary element to having a mother involved in child-rearing and their development.
Now I'm sure that if you were to start a family, then you would choose the best mate possible, likely a women without a trouble history or affinity for substance abuse. Therefore, if anything goes sour, you will indeed lose custody of your children, and be left to pay alimony and child support.
And don't be so confident in a pre-nup, especially once children are involved, they get tossed out by the judge.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:51:07 551cde No. 900075
>>899987 Well, a widower is a different circumstance. You had a wife, and she unfortunately died. You didn't knowingly bring your child into the world without a mother. Your child, as he/she grows and learns will not eventually resent your for something out of your control, whereas Mr. Surrogate Mother will be a piece of shit to his children when they learn that he consciously raised them without a mother to care for them.
Do people read anymore?
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:51:50 70fdd4 No. 900088
>>900016 HAHAHAHA, are you mentally ill you retarded kikenigger? Fuck off feminazi CC inferior cancer whore.
I WON'T GET MARRIED. WITHOUT GETTING MARRIED = STATE HAS NO POWER OVER ME, WHAT ALIMONY? WHAT CHILD SUPPORT?
AHAHAHAHAHAH.
Fucking retard. Also, custody will go to me, because I am a superior male, I make more money and can raise and educate the children better ;-)
MGTOW prime for lyfe, it feels good to be my own god.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:54:14 70fdd4 No. 900117
>>900016 Also, I plan on making my future reproduction mate sign legal documents that cover all of this ;)
She has nothing to worry if she stays loyal and pulls her own weight after all ;)
Stay mad cancer faggot.
MGTOW prime 4 lyfe.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:55:20 551cde No. 900136
>>900088 No. You will not get custody. And by co-habiting, you are considered common law by the state, therefore you are subject to the same laws as a married couple. You can't have children that are ignored by the state just because you didn't walk down an aisle and put a ring on a woman's finger - welcome to the first world, m8.
I know there's a good chance this is trolling, but I know many "MGTOWs" think like this so it's fun to destroy the arguments.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:55:08 a5c07c No. 900139
>>872312 They represent half of the sexist war that is in a fight of delusional warfare. I can't believe the world is actually supporting a certain sex. Get ready for the fall of civilization….
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 22:57:42 551cde No. 900166
>>900117 Good luck with that. The family courts have screwed over smarter men than you. "But your honor, SHE SAID SHE WOULD PULL HER OWN WEIGHT!"
No bro, you'll get the ol' fist up the rectum like every other fool who's been through the family court system. Good luck though, I'll be smiling somewhere knowing you don't have custody, and are making monthly payments to fund your ex-wife/surrogate mother's new life.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:00:02 a45580 No. 900194
>>900136 >>900166 >arguing with a guy using "lyfe" >arguing with a troll
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:01:51 e52ac3 No. 900196
>>899826 Kids these days have only a single-parent-family anyway.
The remaing question is if the parent is the father or the mother.
And that's an important question.
Children who only have a father aren't even close to being as fucked up as children who only have a mother.
Maybe it's because only widowers and saints get to raise their kids as single fathers while even crackwhores get dat juicy child support.
Or maybe the father is more important - in a feminized world where a mother is just one more of the dozens of women in kindergarten, school, human resources department…
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:02:15 70fdd4 No. 900230
>>900136 AHAHAHA, what retarded state do you live in you retarded faggot? Americunt, land of the free, lmfao. EUROPE 4 lyfe ;D
Also, as I said I will make my my future REPRODUCTION MATE, not WIFE, sign legal documents that ENFORCE MY WILL incase things go wrong ;)
>>900166 dumb retard doesn't understand what legal documents mean. I am smarter than you, I am smarter then women, women are not my equal, I am superior. The only two things I am interested in are 1. Sexual pleasure and 2. Reproductions. I tell this to their face. I don't buy them shit, I don't treat them special, I treat them like the inferior sluts they are and they can't ressist me ;) The woman will carry her own weight or she can fuck off.
This is the future, deal with it.
MGTOW prime for lyfe.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:04:39 70fdd4 No. 900265
>>900136 >>900166 Also, if USA is that fucked, then I support all the revolutionaries there, can't wait for American civil war. I hope true men slaughter all the feminazis, leftist, niggers etc.
Fuck the law, true men don't give a fuck about the law, if the LAW IS RATIONAL AND FAIR, sure I will follow it, if it isn't, then I WILL TAKE POWER BY KILLING AND DESTROYING, LIKE A TRUE MAN.
TRUE MEN ARE CREATORS, THEY DESTROY AND CREATE.
ANDERS BREIVIK WAS A TRUE MAN.
KILLING IS GOOD, KILLING IS NATURAL, FUCK ALL YOU SHEEPLE, CAN'T WAIT FOR WW3 SO I CAN SLAUGHTER ALL YOU CATTLE.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:14:12 253c5e No. 900379
>"waaaah you need to reproduce and keep society going!"
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:18:26 551cde No. 900441
>>900194 I know he's a troll, bro. But don't be foolish to think there aren't dudes reading this thread that think with the same stupid arguments and feel their existence affirmed by reading his masturbatory crap. I'm doing for them. I'm doing it, for free.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:25:24 70c3e6 No. 900539
I disagree with the MGTOW notion of hypergamy in the sense that they do not allow for the possibility that a female would act differently to such biological programming.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:30:35 72e1b3 No. 900621
>>899071 That describes every mgtow.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:33:07 72e1b3 No. 900643
>>900539 You're an idiot, then. Females cannot act against their programming. They are automatons and wombs with legs.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:37:29 e52ac3 No. 900700
>>900539 Nobody denies the possibility of women who would be decent wifes.
Well, except pic related.
It's about probability.
Divorce rates tell us that about half of all marriages end in a courtroom.
3/4 to 4/5 of divorces are initiated by the wife.
Russian roulette has only a 1/6 chance of ending messy…
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:41:16 203054 No. 900751
>>873071 I usually don't say this. But I think you really are projecting.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:41:27 72e1b3 No. 900754
Mgtow, feminism, all this crap boils down to insane individualism and special snowflake disease. It is the reason I am not a libertarian. It creates these special snowflakes and I can't stand them. It would be preferable to live under a tyrrany than put up with these people being everywhere.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:42:33 67cfbd No. 900764
>>900643 Sounds like a case of the MGTOW to me.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:51:19 93ec3a No. 900863
Eh I got my ona hole and porn/2D, Don't need to spend extra money on them and my life is comfortable because of it. Just don't really care about getting married and I mean that in the sense of I'm fine where I'm at now. Would I like to have a gf again and maybe develop a relationship there? Sure, but I feel comfortable where I'm at now.
Anonymous 01/11/15 (Sun) 23:58:06 72e1b3 No. 900940
>>900764 No, my position is to learn the program and dominate it. It is to see the challenge and conquer it, tame the shrew. MGTOW position is to not play the game at all, to see a challenge and quit immediately.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:03:00 8ef1e4 No. 900999
>>900863 Pretty much this, yeah. Women are spoiled brats that aren't worth the time, effort, or money.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:22:30 203054 No. 901212
>>897970 I'm proud of the guy that left the note.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:29:41 620c8f No. 901282
>exactly like feminists >have i seen mras or mgtow campaign to have the state take away my liberty in any way? >did they succeed?
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:35:39 74318e No. 901334
>>901212 that
>sorry bro You can practically feel how upset the dude is that he fucked some guys girlfriend. What a bro.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:38:06 8ef1e4 No. 901351
>>901212 >>901334 That man is a goddamn hero and if I was the one the note was for I'd hunt him down and buy him a beer.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:38:42 683238 No. 901354
>>873130 Ex-MGTOW here.
Those are only "ghosting" ones.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:39:32 683238 No. 901360
>>901354 Wait shit meant for
>>873115
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:43:21 620c8f No. 901397
>>901354 What MGTOWS accept being married?
Relationships are more of a grey area, but still the ones I've seen said you can fuck 'em as much as you want but you can't have a "proper relationship."
Particularly since this will qualify as common law marriage after a time.
>my country doesn't have common law marriage! Not yet it doesn't. But expect it to happen soon and it will apply retroactively.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:50:56 44b575 No. 901470
>>901282 I said they're TALKING like feminists, you dumb fuck.
They use the same arguments: "women are bad, and why? because they are bitches, whores and they want to exploit us and take our money, that's all they want"
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 00:59:50 620c8f No. 901550
>>901470 Those things feminists say don't matter, arsehole.
Unimportant part:
>men are all shit Important part:
>therefore we have this 'yes means yes' law. >therefore affiramtive action.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:17:55 a723d8 No. 901778
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:19:30 a723d8 No. 901803
>>898672 This kind of "all or nothing" approach is why your post is bullshit.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:25:33 797575 No. 901867
>>872312 If feminists were goys.
>mgtow explained.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:25:18 69749d No. 901872
>>901470 And their actions instead is to abandon women entirely and to avoid them instead of ruin people's lives by changing laws or trying to force a movement.
Perhaps you're looking for Men's Right activist, those are the group who are fighting for more rights for men and talk exactly like feminists.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:29:57 a723d8 No. 901911
>>901872 I do not think the present situation can be changed through legal means. Females are 60% of the electorate thanks to their living longer than men and that the elderly are more representative of the electorate.
The best approach is two-fold:
A) insulate one's self from its effects
B) deny it revenue
MGTOW does both, so I count myself a MGTOW.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:35:29 786235 No. 901954
>>872312 /pol/'s non-stance on feminist and MGTOW bullshit wont help anyone.
The MGTOW is taking and turning feminist bullshit back around in their faces after people started to realize that being rational human beings wasnt going to work on the public because its extremely easy for a woman to claim shes under attack and get her way.
Are MGTOW mostly retards?
I think so.
Do we need them to be another extream?
I think so.
Because without them, the moderates will continually be pulled into feminist shit.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:35:52 69749d No. 901959
>>901911 I agree, I've read TRP, MGTOW, MRA and whatever label they call themselves.
MRAs are pathetic but I appreciate their work in trying to fight against the impossible.
MGTOW are just people moving away from the system.
TRP are people who understand how the system works and game it to their advantage.
Now that I think about it, it's quite interesting there's three factions fighting in their own way for the future of men.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:37:58 a723d8 No. 901985
>>901959 To the best of my knowledge, "the red pill" is the precursor to MRA, MGTOW, and using the system to one's advantage, which I see as ACS (applied common sense).
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:51:40 35ca2e No. 902137
>>901550 It does matter, because it's a window into your own soul. Right now, MGTOW is as putrid as most radical feminazis.
And if you can't see how that fits into the bigger picture of cultural Marxism and the destruction of society, then you're just as worthless as they are.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:52:22 a723d8 No. 902155
>>902137 >muh feelings >baaaaaaw if u dawnt agree wif me u r doo doo hed Isn't it past your bedtime?
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 01:58:35 d11ba2 No. 902211
>>902137 >window into your own soul Get off your mystical Highhorse, we're talking about real things here. I don't care how "cultural Marxist" you think it is, Marriage in modern America means that you're betting half your stuff, your kids and 18 years of payments on whether or not your wife decides to leave you(50% chance she will)
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 02:05:52 35ca2e No. 902296
>>902211 Learn to read people.
If you think women are tricksters and it's a throw the dice whether you get a good one or not, then you're a bungling autismo who shouldn't be giving life advice to anyone. Most women are perfectly transparent if you have a grasp of human nature.
Instead I see you fools getting cynical and coming up with the most outlandish things to justify your own incompetence in dealing with your fellow humans. It's all rationalization to stay inside your vidya and masturbation cocoons. That's why nobody wants to take you seriously or they just compare you to feminazis (who basically do the same thing).
Claiming externalities as the determining factor in your life choices is pathetic, beta, and unmanly. You will never really advance if you stick to this mentality.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 02:10:42 d43d61 No. 902357
>>901872 If you think Men's rights activists are like feminists you have not done shit to research the MRA groups. They are adamantly anti-feminist to the point where a large populous are in it purely to fuck up feminism.
Do you know why this is the case? Feminism is full of lies, fake studies and false claims. The most prominent women (Girlwriteswhat) in MRAdom considers fucking up feminism to be a priority over men's rights. It just happens that men's rights will massively benefit if they can tear feminism a new asshole because it is judge, jury and executioner in gender politics right now.
Go watch Girlwriteswhats stuff and listen to her talk. She quotes studies constantly that hold water and when she is talking personal opinion she prefaces it by saying it's her theory and has no backing beyond that. Bitch is a mother fucking scientist.
That is without touching Big red, rape culture, patriarchy and all that other shite. Hell just find me a single event where a MRA tried to kill someone's dog for daring to point out that most the people in her women's shelter were more abusive than their partners were. MRA are pro science, Feminists are anti-science terrorists.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 02:16:19 69749d No. 902429
>>902357 I understand what you mean.
I say MRAs are just like feminists because that they try to fight for better rights for men using the powers of the law and government to uphold new rules and regulation.
However there is a reason why there are community step away from MRAs and instead choose to forge their own path instead. Rather than complain and get the government to make it better for the men, the MGTOW avoid the laws entire and game it to fit their purpose.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 02:33:09 c35e97 No. 902611
>the shilling by feminazis against MGTOW in this thread
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 02:45:06 e52ac3 No. 902769
>>902296 >Learn to read people. That has its limits.
Even if you're perfect, you're only reading their intentions, not their future.
Corrupting influences are everywhere.
Sure, you can better your odds, but you can never fully remove chance.
Once you've removed the golddiggers, heartless wenches and other obvious unfits, how much chance remains, considering the divorce rate?
And how far away are you from perfection at reading people? Just a little?
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 03:01:20 35ca2e No. 902936
>>902769 So your answer is to not even try?
I just can't get my head around it.
"We need to launch this invasion…"
"But what about the corrupting influences?? You can't predict the future!"
"Let's sign off this merger…"
"But what about the corrupting influences?? You can't predict the future!"
"Let's conquer the west…"
"But what about the corrupting influences?? You can't predict the future!"
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 03:19:32 321469 No. 903109
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 03:26:26 c009f4 No. 903165
MGTOW and feminism are two extremes on the bar that is social justice/disunity. What people are too stupid to realize is that both are divisive and keep people from seeing that the natural order of things is for the best. Khazars/Jews/Feminists/Internationalists are doing everything they can to destroy the family unit so when they consolidate power then all those abandoned chilluns, and single mothers, and prison dads will have no choice but to bow down to the executive power of the state. Feminists can scream and shout about how guys rape and creep them out, mgtows can complain about how the system is fucking them over, and that jamal reaps the benefits of being a lowlife (free pussy, not having to pay for kids), but in the end they will realize that both of them severely fucked up and the foolish and gullible will lose or willfully give up their children to a supposed nanny state.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 03:30:54 e52ac3 No. 903227
>>902769 If somebody hands me a revolver, half of the 6 chambers loaded, I don't remove one bullet and spin the roulette.
Learn from insurance companies.
Risk of event times severity of event. As one factor approaches infinity the potential for profit vaporates.
Is there insurance against divorce?
Is there insurance against thermonuclear meltdown chernobyl-style?
No?
Wonder why…
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 03:38:27 e52ac3 No. 903319
>>903227 D'oh, addressed at
>>902936
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 04:33:53 98bc71 No. 903855
MGTOW is a rational response to the current Sociopolitical landscape. It's that simple. They are not like feminists, AT ALL, they do not protest, they do not write articles for gawker, they do not use activism at all. 'Slacktivism', maybe. MRAs are another story, and have successfully lobbied for shit like changing stations in mens restrooms.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 05:01:49 0a180d No. 904089
For the most part mgtow exists to defend the choice to avoid marriage. When the time comes for society to deal with the lack of people getting married there will need to be organization to defend men from bullshit like a bachelor's tax or forced support for single mothers. Mgtow is far from perfect but its a start on getting that organization going and powerful so we will be ready in time.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 05:42:42 c2b828 No. 904508
MGTOW will reach its zenith when VR headsets and waifu simulators hit the mainstream. Then the need for 3DPG will be completely diminished. Men will acquire wealth and fuck whatever cheap sloot they want.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 05:47:49 707c9d No. 904568
>>873251 Not that anon.
It entails:
>Making your child have feels >Marrying your child >Having a child with your child >Divorcing your child who takes your child
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 06:36:23 d11ba2 No. 904940
>>902296 >irrelevent nonsense Yeah clearly not taking a 50% chance of divorce(and all the shit mentioned that comes with it) is just "excuses" and "autism", not a rational choice or anything. As for comparisons to Feminism, we didn't have nearly as shitty of a marriage system before Feminism fucked with it in the first place, MGTOW has economic and social benefits while Feminism doesn't.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 11:15:10 d43d61 No. 906362
>>902429 MGTOW can't work without the MRA supporting them. MGTOW are trying to avoid a system that fucks them over, while living inside the system. Basically it's like saying "I'm going to play WOW but ignore all the game mechanics", it's impossible, you have to use the mechanics given to you to play the game, so a MGTOW has to pay his taxes to support single mothers, to fund feminist women's careers and organizations. That is the problem with MGTOW, it will punish the good women by withdrawing good mates, but not stop the bad women for continuing the make things worse for the decent people.
Think of it this way, MGTOWS pay taxes, those taxes fund shit. Women are currently trying to get the government to pay for their birth control. So if the MRA doesn't fight that shit, MGTOWs will lose some % of their income to fund free birth control. The system is set up so you can't escape it, you have to pay your taxes and shit or they imprison you. So a MGTOW cannot escape the system and won't defend the system from bullshit, so will lose any battle before the troops are even on the field because MGTOW simply refuse to be troops.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 11:20:06 d43d61 No. 906390
>>904940 Feminism has social benefits for women. Remember women's survival tactic is to hide behind other people to avoid direct conflict where any one who attacks her can fuck up her ability to reproduce.
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That shit explains it.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 11:32:43 e98e84 No. 906452
>>900136 Only nine states in the US have common law marriages. A few others have them in the application of very special circumstance such as when a person dies without a will. Canada apparently has them in most of the country except Quebec which says "Fuck that" though obviously in French. In most of the US you can cohabitate without risk of being declared common law married against your will.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 19:03:51 609505 No. 907703
>>899637 Lemme ask you this, where is a male innovator likely to come from: a female who follows her traditional role as wife and mother or a female who has abandoned her proper role? Without proper women properly raising their male children, the male children won't grow up to be innovators and benefactors of society.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 19:07:50 609505 No. 907720
>>899690 >If you honestly think something that has at it's very core betrayal is the same as a philosophy that seeks to make its practitioner immune to betrayal Does feminism not have at its core betrayal? "YOU'VE BEEN BETRAYED BY PATRIARCHY, YOU NEED TO FIGHT BACK?" Does not communism have at its core betrayal? "YOU'VE BEEN BETRAYED BY CAPITALIST SOCIETY!"
MGTOWs are dupes of the same level of feminists and communists.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 19:10:46 609505 No. 907735
>>900196 >Kids these days have only a single-parent-family anyway. Yeah, and they're all fucked up.
Nor are they anywhere close to being as properly adjusted as children from homes with a father and a mother.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 19:13:59 609505 No. 907755
>>903855 Yeah, they do nothing. That's the fucking problem. Society is driven by male action, by abdicating taking action, you've effectively given power over to women entirely and the world will continue going off the rails. The magical backlash will never happen, because no one will act to effect it, they'll just be focused on themselves, on lifting and fucking bitches YOLOSWAG!
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 19:22:26 a723d8 No. 907815
>>902936 The same good sense that analyses the circumstances of a military invasion, a business merger, or the decision to move west also counsels one to avoid marriage and females in general in this social and legal climate.
In all cases, one weighs risks and rewards. Having done so, I decided that my interests are best served by going MGTOW because I can think with my brain, not my penis.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 19:34:14 609505 No. 907933
>>907815 They say that, yet they're just as obssessed with fucking bitches as any other brainwashed idiot. The majority don't actually commit to the ideas of MGTOW, they see it as a PUA tactic, disregard bitches and they'll want your cock.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 19:38:12 a723d8 No. 907976
>>907933 Who says that, and where have they said that?
I can only speak for myself, my common sense, and the sources I cite. I'm out of the market because females are much more trouble than they're worth.
Between rape allegations, "happy accidents" (accidental pregnancies), and general oestrogen-fuelled nonsense, I don't want anything to do with them in the social realm.
Anonymous 01/12/15 (Mon) 19:45:40 609505 No. 908040
>>907976 >Who says that, and where have they said that? Well, the overwhelming majority of folks at the MGTOW forum and ROK.
Anonymous 01/13/15 (Tue) 03:58:40 ed5e19 No. 909950
>>902137 I disagree. MGTOW is the only serious leverage against anti-male family and marriage policies. It isn't an organized movement; it's better described as a withdrawal from the marriage market.
I think it is related to the withdrawal of men from the higher-ed establishment and the employment market.
If men all play along, then there is no pressure on the system to change. MRA's aren't taken seriously, even when their arguments are good.
MGTOW's make little noise and aren't really a movement, yet manage to excite quite a bit of fear masquerading as contempt. A man who simply refuses to play can't be manipulated or effectively utilized for resources, either by women or the major social institutions.
I expect their numbers will grow, and so will the shrieking about self-absorbed manbabies. It will be interesting to watch.
Anonymous 01/13/15 (Tue) 04:08:29 ed5e19 No. 909991
>>907755 >Society is driven by male action, by abdicating taking action, you've effectively given power over to women entirely and the world will continue going off the rails. Nothing any individual here can do will avert that process. It is not possible to take the action you think necessary without the authority to do so, and men do not even have legal authority over their own families.
Anonymous 01/13/15 (Tue) 04:11:31 da014a No. 910000
from MGTOW site
Anonymous 01/13/15 (Tue) 04:45:21 bbdce8 No. 910141
I'll answer the one post where you came dangerously close to making a point, yet still missed by miles.
>>907735 >Nor are they anywhere close to being as properly adjusted as children from homes with a father and a mother. That is because a man being a single father up to now has been an accident of the system.
Most widowers weren't really prepared for the role they have to fill.
To get the child in divorce, not only has the father to be close to a saint, the mother MUST be so fucked up even the biased system sees no possibility to grant her the ownership of her children.
These two ways of single fatherhood come from a very bad start.
They should fuck up way more than single mothers do, but not only are they not worse, they're provably better by a wide margin.
Go on, look for the statistics yourself so you can't blame me for presenting biased sources.
I'm confident whatever you find proves my point.
Now what would single fatherhood look like statistically if we looked at the group who chooses this way of life?
They'd be prepared.
A very different start from the one todays single fathers have, who, as I'd like to remind you, do a remarkably better job then single mothers, who already choose the single parent way of life intentionally in sigificant numbers.
Can I prove intentional single fathers would be as good as traditional families?
Not yet, the numbers are too low to even start any meaningful statistics.
But they're growing as the knowledge about MGTOW spreads.
In some years we'll be wiser about this question.
Anonymous 01/13/15 (Tue) 04:46:30 044071 No. 910148
>>910000 What a fucking surprise.
Anonymous 01/14/15 (Wed) 04:20:09 c1b7cf No. 919645
>>910000 Get fucked.
I'm not sacrificing my life to maybe have a couple of kids I have a 50/50 of being able to raise into decent moral people.
You want to fall on your sword so this shit show can carry on go right ahead.
Anonymous 01/14/15 (Wed) 04:28:44 609505 No. 919693
>>909991 >Nothing any individual here can do will avert that process. Perhaps not, but we hold the line and ride the tiger and fight the good fight anyways, even if all hope is lost. That's the duty of right-thinking men.
Anonymous 01/14/15 (Wed) 04:36:55 925808 No. 919757
MGTOW = Cultural Marxism Feminism = Cultural Marxism Maleism = Cultural Marxism Mgtow constantly shills this beta philosophy to demoralize young men on /pol/
Anonymous 01/14/15 (Wed) 06:12:19 6ebd25 No. 920303
/pol/ is bluepill as fuck on women. They know nothing about hypergamy or solipsism, the true nature of women. Most of the shit they complain about was caused by marxists enabled by women for their own benefit.
Anonymous 01/14/15 (Wed) 06:25:59 6ebd25 No. 920327
and here's a fucking red pill for you:
Anonymous 01/15/15 (Thu) 17:05:30 3f2e41 No. 928623
Anonymous 01/16/15 (Fri) 19:12:59 0332f8 No. 937461
>>872312 If we're all single bachelors how exactly does MGTOW expect children to be born and raised? Reproduction is sort of required for the survival of the species (and race).
It sounds like something the Jews would pull. Wouldn't be surprised if there's one behind it.
I'm not MGTOW because I'm not a pussy and I don't let my wife get away with shit and I don't give her whatever she wants whenever she wants when she wants it. That's my advice.
