More than once we've seen posts of women's rooms turned gender neutral, but the men's remains.
I have a question.
Wouldn't gender neutral include people who would want, and are able, to use urinals? Wouldn't it be more inclusive to convert the men's rooms?

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@TranimeGirl The real secret is that men's rooms have always been gender neutral.

And there's a very simple test to prove it.

Go to a large concert; any venue will do. Wait until the first major break, and go to the restrooms.

The wait for the women's room will lead to a line that goes around the block. The wait for the men's room may be long, but moves significantly faster and is always shorter than the women's room.

Now observe: some number of women will move from the women's room line to the men's room line, go in, do their business, and leave – and men simply won't care. Because we just don't care.

Honestly, we just don't care.

Ergo, to transform a restroom into a "gender-neutral" restroom, you have to start with a restroom that is gender specific. There's only one of those.

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@SamaelVrai If the men's room is already gender neutral, slap a sign on it and call it a day. Leave women's rooms alone!

@TranimeGirl @SamaelVrai Or two signs. Maybe differentiate them as "3 stalls 3 urinals" vs "5 stalls".

And voila, no rebuilding needed whatsoever! Problem, inch wide gap?

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@OpBaI @TranimeGirl @SamaelVrai Well... I know an adult female sexual abuse survivor who is terrified at the idea of being alone around men.
I also don't want a creep hanging around the ladies'. I suggest we go for "only women" and "all."
Wait, that's what @TranimeGirl has been saying the whole time, isn't it? I agree.

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@wcloetens @TranimeGirl @SamaelVrai That is clearly sexist (the other way round than stupidly connecting the women's room) and can easily lead to insufficient bathrooms for everyone in the building.

So instead of that, let's rather do proper unisex bathrooms, with separate doors and proper walls. Problem solved too, but better.

@OpBaI @TranimeGirl @SamaelVrai Yes, that's absolutely my preferred solution. But if that is prohibitively expensive or architecturally infeasible, this suboptimal solution seems the most reasonable.
I know that there are female predators. I'm sure that there are boys or men who are uncomfortable with women around. But statistically, the inverse is the dominant situation.

@wcloetens @OpBaI @TranimeGirl @SamaelVrai

It's feeling vs. facts. Estrogen make you fearful. That's why women complain more.

Besides, how about the Swiss solution: Male, Female and a gender neurtal, single person toilet suitable for the disabled.

@krischik @wcloetens @OpBaI @SamaelVrai XD
Estrogen makes me fearful? What?!
I don't know about that one, Chief!

@TranimeGirl @wcloetens @OpBaI @SamaelVrai biology doesn't deal in absolutes.

You might just be the exception.

Or i got it wrong and it was low levels of testosterone which makes you fearful.

But the net result is the same: women complain more about perceived dangers.

@krischik @wcloetens @OpBaI @SamaelVrai My "perceived danger" drugged me, raped me, and left my clothes hanging from the light, you piece of shit

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@krischik @wcloetens @OpBaI @SamaelVrai Just a note - That was one of my first experiences passing as...
*drum roll*
FEMALE!

@TranimeGirl @krischik @wcloetens @OpBaI @SamaelVrai Wherever that person is that done that I wish nothing but endless pain and torment for them.

@MistressTatiana @krischik @wcloetens @OpBaI @SamaelVrai Word on the street is his drug dealer caught wind he had raped me and several lesbians (he apparently targeted lesbians), and sold him poisoned drugs. Dude's dead afaik.

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@MistressTatiana @krischik @wcloetens @OpBaI @SamaelVrai Upsetting... it was an LGBT bar, went there because I figured if I was clocked, I wouldn't get roughed up. I wasn't clocked... No idea what would have happened if I was

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