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    1. Hassan Hassan‏Verified account @hxhassan 14h14 hours ago

      I never understood the argument in favor of the US withdrawing from Syria. I tried, but it sounds irrational. I understand it if made by pro-Assad/Russia/Iran folks or by those who don’t watch Syria closely (those screaming “Iraq” without context.) But never why experts make it.

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    2. Randa Slim‏ @rmslim 14h14 hours ago
      Replying to @hxhassan

      I feel the same today about experts who keep arguing we should stay in #Syria. As a lawyer friend said one time to me when we were discussing another matter: “the evidence is screaming in your face! “

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    3. Hassan Hassan‏Verified account @hxhassan 14h14 hours ago
      Replying to @rmslim

      Exactly that evidence is what I’ve been trying to see. Genuinely trying to see the point. The best argument I heard is that the means/tools at hand don’t match the stated objectives, so it won’t ultimately work even if it’s *working* now. But that’s unconvincing/besides the point

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    4. Randa Slim‏ @rmslim 14h14 hours ago
      Replying to @hxhassan

      What is “working now”? If staying is abt “defeat of ISIS” evidence shows they are far from defeated. If it is about rolling back Iran evidence shows Iran entrenchment is stronger than ever. If it is about creating conditions for political process, that process has been long dead.

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    5. Hassan Hassan‏Verified account @hxhassan 14h14 hours ago
      Replying to @rmslim

      True but each one of these points would be many times worse if the US withdraws. Isis isn’t entirely defeated but imagine what happens if the US leaves (currently contained, and capabilities of going after Isis are improving with US help.) Third of Syria is a safe zone vs Assad.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Randa Slim‏ @rmslim 14h14 hours ago
      Replying to @hxhassan

      See my follow up tweet. Let Moscow & Tehran fight ISIS. As for safe zone, how long do u think this is sustainable politically? BTW a Dem prez will not be better. It is immoral 4us 2stick 2policy when we know it is unsustainable politically. We are 1 tweet away from withdrawal

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    7. Hassan Hassan‏Verified account @hxhassan 10h10 hours ago
      Replying to @rmslim

      US presence is having demonstrably positive effects on local communities, and on the fight against ISIS (+US interests). Why rush out? What’s the price for staying vs leaving? The US shouldn’t leave just coz the policy can’t be permanent, nobody says the US will stay permanently.

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      Hassan Hassan‏Verified account @hxhassan 9h9 hours ago
      Replying to @hxhassan @rmslim

      The risks are minimal & the US will have to leave at some point. But there are clear benefits in sticking around until the mission is properly finished (since the US made a decision to start it in 2014) & a political settlement is reached. Not a single positive in the alternative

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        2. Randa Slim‏ @rmslim 7h7 hours ago
          Replying to @hxhassan

          risks are not minimal. losing #US soldiers in a suicide bombing engineered by ISIS or Assad-cum-Iran is never minimal. Assuming “mission is finished” a mission which keeps changing- who is going 2sustain “benefits”?Can locals do it alone against TR, Assad & Iran?Highly doubtful

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        3. Hassan Hassan‏Verified account @hxhassan 6h6 hours ago
          Replying to @rmslim

          You make the case for this argument well, an argument that several other experts make. I still think it’s not persuasive, to not want to deal with a mess (that could become a lot messier, rather than improves as is the case now) because the final outcome may or may not be good.

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        4. Randa Slim‏ @rmslim 6h6 hours ago
          Replying to @hxhassan

          The same could be said about your arguments for the case of staying in Syria which have also been made by several other experts. These arguments are not convincing. Let us agree to disagree.

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        5. Hassan Hassan‏Verified account @hxhassan 4h4 hours ago
          Replying to @rmslim

          100%. I just meant that discussing this with you is about the general view held by several experts, not aimed at you. Still trying to understand why leaving is more favorable than staying, despite the benefits. Anyway, it’s not the right platform for a full discussion. Speak soon

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