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    VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

    About the "security issue" on #VLC : VLC is not vulnerable. tl;dr: the issue is in a 3rd party library, called libebml, which was fixed more than 16 months ago. VLC since version 3.0.3 has the correct version shipped, and @MITREcorp did not even check their claim. Thread:

    2:41 AM - 24 Jul 2019
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      2. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        So, a reporter, opened a bug on our bugtracker, which is outside of the reporting policy, aka, mail us in private on the security alias. Of course, our bugtracker is public. We could not, of course reproduce the issue, and tried to contact the security researcher, in private.

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      3. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        The reporter is using Ubuntu 18.04, which is an old version of Ubuntu, and clearly has not all the updated libraries. But did not answer to our questions.

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      4. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        For whatever reason, unknown to us, @MITREcorp decided to issue a CVE, without talking to us. This is in direct violation of their own policies, https://cve.mitre.org/cve/researcher_reservation_guidelines#researcher_reservation_guidelines#1 …pic.twitter.com/8AZWpimNBC

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      5. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        This is not the first time that @MITREcorp does that. In fact, they NEVER EVER contact us when they find security issues on VLC, and we always discover that after they are public, when a user or a distribution asks us.

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      6. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        When we complained, and we asked if we could manage our own CVE (like another CNA), we had no answer and @usnistgov NVD told us that they basically couldn't do anything for us, not even fixing the wrong information.

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      7. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        And this has been going on for years: almost all CVE on VLC have completely insane CVSS, which brings articles like the one we've seen.

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      8. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        Any non-exploitable read overflow get CVSS of 9.8, like VLC is a server and you could do RCE and compromised the machine, while most of the time, the issue is a crash, often not exploitable, from a local file that the user HAS to open manually.

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      9. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        And of course, they are never corrected.

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      10. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        Then, this time, for whatever reason, @certbund decided to do an advisory https://www.cert-bund.de/advisoryshort/CB-K19-0634 …, without checking either the crash (it's not hard), or the vulnerability, or even contacting us.

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      11. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        And of course, @certbund did not contact us for clarifications.

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      12. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        So, when @certbund decided to do their "disclosure", all the media jumped in, without checking anything nor contacting us.

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      13. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        and then, of course, @Gizmodo decided to play the clickbaiting of "Uninstall VLC now, or you are all going to die". Of course, @Gizmodo did not contact at all to check their info. And then, we got hundreds of article about VLC insecurity.

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      14. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        You can bet that noone of them will correct their article, or it will be in a small subtweet somewhere hidden.

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      15. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        It is still on the @Gizmodo frontpage. If you are working at @Gizmodo, are you not a bit ashamed?

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      16. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        @BFMTV joined of course, with the ridiculous "60%" of the fix is done, which is what the reporter added in the public bugtracker...

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      17. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        And to finish, both @usnistgov NVD and @MITREcorp were contacted more than 12 hours, (7pm CET) and we still are waiting for an answer, while @elpaisinenglish is asking us for clarifications...

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      18. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago

        Would @MITREcorp behave the same way if we were Microsoft or another big company? But no, we're just a small non-profit, that does not even have the money to pay someone fulltime... End-of-thread.

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      2. Ludovic Fauvet‏ @etixxx 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @videolan @MITREcorp

        Please update your articles: @Gizmodo @ZDNet @Neowin @LifehackerAU @fossbytes14 @pcgamer @TheRegister

        4 replies 3 retweets 53 likes
      3. The Register‏Verified account @TheRegister 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @etixxx @videolan and

        FWIW we reported the VLC developers were skeptical. Happy to update our coverage accordingly. Tho, FWIW, the PoC .MP4 seg-faulted our 3.0.7 VLC installation.

        2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
      4. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @TheRegister @etixxx and

        using a linux distribution? with an old libebml?

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      5. The Register‏Verified account @TheRegister 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @videolan @etixxx and

        Using Debian 9.9, using libebml4v5 1.3.4-1

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @TheRegister @etixxx and

        Yes, so your issue is your distribution is not up-to-date, not VLC.

        1 reply 1 retweet 44 likes
      7. Ben Fiedler‏ @_ThreeFx 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @videolan @TheRegister and

        That is not accurate. Debian 9 is still supported, the Debian devs have not backported the fixes (yet) (see https://packages.debian.org/source/stretch/libebml …). Not saying that any of the above is untrue, simply that you cannot rely on up-to-date libraries on all platforms.

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      8. VideoLAN‏Verified account @videolan 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @_ThreeFx @TheRegister and

        So, the issue is @debian and @ubuntu, not VLC. Especially since we ship our own binaries that are not affected.

        2 replies 6 retweets 27 likes
      9. Ben Fiedler‏ @_ThreeFx 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @videolan @TheRegister and

        Yes that is correct. I recommend you look for which version of libebml fixes the issue and advise all people to check their versions of libebml - then you can avoid this blowing up by people tweeting "But the exploit works on my machine!!1!".

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