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Journalist, photographer. @PulitzerCenter, @ijnr_connect grantee, @UCBsoj fellow, @nswa board. Yansplainer. Searching for big stories.

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    Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22

    THREAD: A few months ago, three publications owed me a total of $5000. Everyone was late to paying me. I tried to hold them all accountable. Here's the story of what happened.https://medium.com/@wudanyan/i-was-owed-more-than-5-000-from-late-paying-publications-47db55dfba2a …

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      1. New conversation
      2. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22

        The real take home message here is that freelancing is difficult when others don’t respect us as small businesses. It comes from both sides: if freelancers don’t think of themselves as a business, they can’t expect others to treat them as such.

        9 replies 226 retweets 2,704 likes
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      3. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22

        But even when we try and handle matters professionally, clients don’t take us seriously.

        6 replies 90 retweets 1,503 likes
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      4. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22

        Ultimately, it comes down to the inherent yet ironic power dynamics at play: Outlets depend on freelancers for content and story ideas but can’t seem to actually value our work and treat us professionally.

        8 replies 162 retweets 1,863 likes
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      5. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22

        It’s exhausting to have to stand up for ourselves, but sometimes it can be worth it.

        4 replies 63 retweets 1,331 likes
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      6. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22

        I decided to self-publish this piece because I wanted the story out there without a publication’s scrutiny, and to avoid the irony of possibly getting paid late again for a story. I’d appreciate it if you gave it a read & a share.

        37 replies 114 retweets 2,640 likes
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      7. End of conversation
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      2. TypeATracey‏ @typeatracey Jul 22
        Replying to @wudanyan

        Make up an email account, for your “bookkeeper” or “accountant,” which is really you, and send payment correspondence through that. Invoices get paid a lot faster if they think a third party is involved.

        2 replies 25 retweets 626 likes
      3. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22
        Replying to @typeatracey

        I hired an assistant to help take the emotional labour out of following up on late payments.

        4 replies 3 retweets 335 likes
      4. Deb who goes and writes it  🌉‏ @DKinnard Jul 22
        Replying to @wudanyan @typeatracey

        Also if you must send follow up correspondence, put cc: your attorney on the bottom. It's amazing the increased attention that gets.

        3 replies 9 retweets 349 likes
      5. Where Is The Ms. Carter Tour DVD Tee‏ @We2DopeGirls Jul 22
        Replying to @DKinnard

        This. I also keep an attorney on retainer to follow up if an invoice isn’t paid within a certain time frame. Granted, my lawyer is a family friend, but somehow receiving an “official” letter with the same invoice attached moves faster when it’s from a law office 🤷🏽‍♀️

        1 reply 4 retweets 143 likes
      6. Russell Calkins‏ @rcalkins 23h23 hours ago
        Replying to @We2DopeGirls @DKinnard

        Agree with this. If they think they might get sued (for even a tiny amount of money), then their lawyer will have to spend time looking at it...which will cost a LOT more than any attached late fee. At that point, it’s way cheaper for them to just pay it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 42 likes
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      2. Jay McGregor‏Verified account @_JayMcgregor Jul 22
        Replying to @wudanyan

        This is really great, so good to see someone finally speak up. Can I ask: did you have any issues getting commissioned again from those publications?

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22
        Replying to @_JayMcgregor

        I won’t be working with or pitching any of them again

        1 reply 2 retweets 65 likes
      4. mihir‏ @mihirsclick Jul 22
        Replying to @wudanyan @_JayMcgregor

        Is this your choice or based on their attitude towards you now? Either ways you are better off finding and creating new professional relationships.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22
        Replying to @mihirsclick @_JayMcgregor

        My choice. I have plenty of clients who pay well and on time

        0 replies 1 retweet 39 likes
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Rebecca Renner  🍊 🐎 🌴‏ @RebeccaRennerFL Jul 22
        Replying to @wudanyan

        I read this and then IMMEDIATELY followed up on stories I haven’t been paid for. Enough is enough. Bless you, Saint Wudan, Patron Saint of Bitch Better Have My Money — from all of us freelancers.

        8 replies 20 retweets 1,331 likes
      3. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan Jul 22
        Replying to @RebeccaRennerFL

        I want this in my twitter bio

        4 replies 0 retweets 271 likes
      4. Rebecca Renner  🍊 🐎 🌴‏ @RebeccaRennerFL Jul 22
        Replying to @wudanyan

        DO IT

        1 reply 0 retweets 72 likes
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      2. Camila Gormaz‏ @Burasto Jul 22
        Replying to @wudanyan

        That email from June 7th is infuriating, what is that highschool level gossip about "lots of people disliking your late fee"? And mentioning your economic situation as if it was unrelated to them, and then pulling the whole "i understand because my x is y". So manipulative.

        2 replies 2 retweets 364 likes
      3. Hot Girl Mummer‏ @kateoriot Jul 22
        Replying to @Burasto @wudanyan

        Yeah the mention of the freelancer husband rankled me the most. Very "I get where you're coming from, don't be mad at ME."

        1 reply 1 retweet 160 likes
      4. apex herbivore‏ @deadseacolony Jul 22
        Replying to @kateoriot @Burasto @wudanyan

        I hAVE a BlAcK fRIeNd

        1 reply 0 retweets 211 likes
      5. Wudan Yan‏Verified account @wudanyan 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @deadseacolony @kateoriot @Burasto

        I keep laughing at this. Even though it's not funny.

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      6. End of conversation

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