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You already give all your images to all other social networks. What stops someone from downloading your Twitter image and using it with the app? Russia, China, US, are all the same, US is no different, they might make some strict rules, but in reality they don't follow them

Truth. However theres a world of difference between a selfie or fb photo with little or no context and an image collected by an AI enhanced facial recognition app with access to additional metadata on the device and permission to do whatever it wants with the results.

You are right about that, we make their jobs easier. Generally, people don't realise the value of the data that they expose. We post selfies, check in wherever we go, even this tweet gives them free information about what are my thoughts, the cost of free social networks.

Many people could do with learning this quote: “If you’re not paying for it, you’re not the customer; you’re the product being sold.”

Separate from the AI/juggalo discussion, I'm curious if anyone has tested this (or other similar apps) with metadata-poisoned photos to see if those get rejected?

Through faceapp or through other facial recognition software? Ive done limited experiments with FaceID, MS Kinect and MS Hello. Depending how you poison it, it stops seeing you as human.

I meant: poison the *metadata* (camera model, date/time, lat/lon, etc.) so that only the valid unpoisoned (presumably stock photo) face is sent. And see if the online service accepts: do they care about faces, or something additional?

but like they use AWS + Google Cloud and don't store any of the photos (ones you aren't already uploading), its R&D team is based in Russia, plus users can request that their data is deleted if you are that paranoid.

They include provisions in their terms that state your data can be held in any country they choose and shared with any subsidiary they like. As for deletion, sending an email with subject of “privacy” asking them to delete it does not a robust, guaranteed deletion process make.

true, but with the full statement they released, and stating that, though they can hold it in any country as the provisions state, they choose not to bring any of that data back 2 Russia, nor sell it. At this point are we just assuming that they lie about what they really do?

Lie is a strong word. I prefer “keep you in the dark about the whole picture”. Also they may start out doing one thing and pivot into something else. They have no obligation to tell you. I apply the same level of distrust to all social media. Share only what you are sure is safe.

I resonate with that, I think it would be naive to say that it doesn't happen at some level across the board, not just social media. But I also feel sometimes people today can tin hat blow things out of proportion before it's all laid out, especially if they see the word Russia

Now you see why I have a giant beard. Just like juggalos I have evolved natural anti-facial recognition defenses.

Are you joking?