I know that this is a hot topic, but maybe we need to seriously say something about this.
Tommy Sotomayor puts his two cents in...
I know that this is a hot topic, but maybe we need to seriously say something about this.
Tommy Sotomayor puts his two cents in...
Well...at least he's funny
That soften the controversy a bit. However, it is historic fact that pederasty has been a part of the slave culture before the onset of the two horrific slave trades and it has silently found its way in the black community compassionately penned being "on the down low." Black men just don't talk about it. But! It's always been here SCREAMING silently [can justify why some black men do the unreasonable things they do to their women]. Question. What folks think goes on in prison? And if that place is so terrible, why do some black men continue to use it as a revolving door? I mean, I do understand racial profiling, the justice system funding the prison industry, sabbotaging and out-right framing that occur by massa to get black men back in prison...but, if you KNOW that being a part of a gang, committing crimes [cuz you are hungry or homeless] or just not caring about the outcome of your life will get you back in a place where if you drop the soap, it's not gonna be good for you.....why do things to take you where you claim you don't belong?
This is not SATs yall...just a realistic question. Cuz you KNOW what goes in prisone...there are NO women. Right? And men are gonna continue to be sexually driven despite where they are....right? So.
And I won't talk about pederastic/homosexual angst in religion or in sports or in places where the same sex congregate, I will just say....this is NOT new. And while folks think that massa was going down in the shack to feel on Sally Mae, he was actually going down there to get Jeffrow to have some REAL fun...and as the years passed, it became something many black men generationally just refused to talk about outta shame but everybody KNEW about. So naturally when one gets into an argument....what happens? Mud start slinging....and the truth comes out! Cuz now it's hurt time. Wanna say those hurt words to win the argument....right? And what better way to do it than to expose the secret than aint really a secret out loud. No? I mean I wouldn't do it to win a debate.
But! I'm. Just. Sayin.
Evidently this guy is speaking to himself and a very limited audience of people that think like him. I have not witnessed Black people accusing each other of being gay or 'downlow' each time they get mad at each other. It is ridiculous for him to even approach the subject of homosexuality or being on the 'downlow' from that angle. He is disingenuous in his premise.
What he is doing is furthering the false notion that somehow, Black men, of ALL the men in the world are somehow more likely to be gay, or bisexual or on the 'downlow', that was started when some Black gay guy wrote and book trying claim as much and paraded it on the Oprah Show of all places.
There is no higher percentages of Black men that are gay or bisexual or on the 'downlow' than any other race or group of men, so why would a Black man want to put it out there as if it is?
Since he has an audience of some kind or number, why would he not take advantage of it by at least addressing issues in the Black community, in African America that are real, like gun violence, youth gangs, teen-pregnancies, high drop-out rates, HOW-TO-GO-TO-COLLEGE(even if you don't have money or a 4.5 GPA), why African Americans should be just as concerned about our environment as any other group, the negative affect public school has on your children, especially young boys, the unfairness and double standard disciplining of Black children in public schools, WHERE AND HOW TO REGISTER TO VOTE, WHO CAN VOTE, WHERE TO VOTE, WHY VOTING MATTERS, ALL THE THINGS IN LIFE THAT POLITICS AFFECTS . . .
Since he has an audience of some kind or number, why would he not take advantage of it by at least addressing issues in the Black community, in African America that are real, like gun violence, youth gangs, teen-pregnancies, high drop-out rates, HOW-TO-GO-TO-COLLEGE(even if you don't have money or a 4.5 GPA), why African Americans should be just as concerned about our environment as any other group, the negative affect public school has on your children, especially young boys, the unfairness and double standard disciplining of Black children in public schools, WHERE AND HOW TO REGISTER TO VOTE, WHO CAN VOTE, WHERE TO VOTE, WHY VOTING MATTERS, ALL THE THINGS IN LIFE THAT POLITICS AFFECTS . . .
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Funny .... I was just thinking the other day how much different things would've been for us now if hip/hop music had addressed any or all of these issues in a positive way.
Unfortunately, though ... those are the kinds of subjects that people like this guy ... and the so-called "artists" of hip hop ... don't know the details or intricacies of enough to talk about to their peers.
Which is unfortunate.
Everything he accuses black men of doing, white men do as well. Maybe he doesn't associate with enough white people to realize this
Kevin
Who cares ?
Its what people do. Draw no other conclusions than that.
Sisters do the same.
Neomelan
The ignorance is truly unbelievable.
Everything he accuses black men of doing, white men do as well. Maybe he doesn't associate with enough white people to realize this
Kevin
Question: How many white women get on TV and say that they get HIV/AIDS from DL men in their community? I'll wait...(tick-tock, tick-tock...)
White women have no motive to "take the food outta their mouths" that's why, my brotha. They have been part of this image status from the very beginning. Many of em knew their husbands were on "down low" but DIDN'T care cuz they had that almighty dollar convincing them to keep their MOUTHS closed. It's historically. They've been TRAINED over the years....very well. And if you look back...just pick a country.....any country...for debate let's say ah
lemme see Italy or Greece....you will notice that the MEN did what they wanted with other men....preferrably young boys while their marriages were arranged. And in England, men didn't marry until they reached their thirties[by arranged marriages] but constantly pullin on young men for pleasure. It is a fact. And white women ALWAYS knew this so it wasn't hard for them to adjust to a new country with new rules[mail order brides] to accomplish the goal: find a husband to marry to acquire status and property. Cuz traditionally men [not african men] did not COURT their women....they were assigned to them. No? Well...I'm not making this up. It's toooooooo sick. And that's why when that Senator announced a few years ago that he was gay, his WIFE said nothing until a couple years later. But heifer knew all along [she's not fooling me that] her husband and his assistant were entirely toooooooo close....dressing alike and all that bull, And look at Hoover, he was a cross-dresser while he investigated and intimidated high officials including President Kennedy. So this secret has been ongoing and now that is spilling into the black community cuz folks are finally talking....to me it is totally unreasonable to assume that it has NOT always been there. See there's a different dynamics with black men and black women as oppose to white women and white men. White folks know the game. Been playin it for a long time. On the other hand, Black folks have had to FIGHT for freedom and human rights first [for a lotta years] and worried about our other social issues later-and there were plenty. Trust me. And now that we are finally coming to terms with this stigmat being in our community.....instead of dealing with it head on....we wanna point fingers to distract from what we NEED to deal with so that we can GIVE our children the tools they need to problem solve as they continue to grow with unexpected life challenges that may stunt their ability to humanly develop.
Me personally, I have always seen pederasty which can evolve into full-blown homosexuality as a sick form of "child" abuse. Cuz folks didn't just began having sex-same activity as adults, it started somewhere. And usually it started in childhood. But that's a different matter....sorry I can go on and on about this. But the bottom line is we gotta STOP straddlin the fence and begin focking deal with this as an evolved and mature community. We got to understand that when our children go to jail, prison, juvenile detention centers, it's a good chance this activity is occurring. Or we have to look closely at those who are mentoring our children[in schools, in church, in our neighborhoods]....and not be sooooooooo trusting. Cuz this activity is a paradox and totally damages the child when he or she grows up to be fragmented people [not talking about when one chooses this actvity as an adult]. And I don't care what anybody says that's sooooooooo real and scary. Many of us need social therapy. We do. And if we continue to NOT recognize this....there will be more and more of our men/male children doing life in prison, Cuz that is where this activity continues to spread, fester and explodes thus destroying our culture from the inside out. But!
So white women have a "motive" not to complain about their men being on DL, my sista? Really?
That still doesn't answer my question. How come our women are on Nightline saying can't find a good man b/c they're on the DL and giving them HIV? We know that that they're not getting pregnant or infected by the Cornel Wests and the Michael Eric Dysons of the community, THAT'S FOR SURE!! I've already said earlier on another thread that the women are getting HIV and other STDs from black men IN JAIL, not from DL men, b/c a black man is more than likely to catch HIV in prison, than they do outside of prison.
And you know that too many of our women are sleeping with those type of men: whether they are sleeping with them through conjugal vists, when those men get out of jail...or if they're working in jail as the correctional officers sleeping with the inmates. Check the video below at the 12:11 mark.
http://crimeinamerica.net/2010...s-with-male-inmates/
Now if you want to talk about motive, why are the women aren't calling the women out in the community who have thug fetishes (BM in prison) who are giving them HIV in the first place? Are they above criticism? Are they afraid to lose either sympathy from the government for not scapegoating all black men, or lose their membership in the sisterhood, if they snitch on their thug-loving sisters who label blame ALL black men in general, instead of the actual thugs for impregnating them and giving them diseases? Is that the motive?
Everything he accuses black men of doing, white men do as well. Maybe he doesn't associate with enough white people to realize this
Kevin
Question: How many white women get on TV and say that they get HIV/AIDS from DL men in their community? I'll wait...(tick-tock, tick-tock...)
That's the thing, "how many White women get on tv and say" it. You have to be very naive to how the media guides people beliefs into one direction or another. First, most of the White women that get aid/hiv from their downlow husbands/boyfriends are going to keep it to themselves and not run to some national tv show in the first place.
Second, the majority of White people, period, which includes White women that actually die from HIV/AIDS, are going to have their cause of death listed as "pneumonia" or any of the many diseases that people actually die from because the virus weakened their immune system to that point, not AIDS or HIV.
But, for the matter of Black women that "get on tv and say they get HIV?AIDS from DL men in their community," since their are over 40-45Million+ African Americans in this country, how many out of approximately 20-25Million African American women are getting on tv period, let alone on tv saying that they have HIV/AIDS and that they contracted it from a downlow Black male?
CDC stats for the AA community:
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/aa/
Stats about Black men...the correct numbers...