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    Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

    S-400s, a story: Everything started when Turkey downed a Russian jet, Su-24 in Nov 2015 for violating its airspace. Russians were repeatedly bombarding Turkman-led rebel groups by using Turkish airspace. Ankara issued several warnings. Then downed a jet. What was US reaction?

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      2. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        US officials, on the record, initially supported Turkey’s arguments. But had different talking points while briefing reporters on background. US defense officials undermined Turkey’s claim and said Russian jet was in Syrian airspace when it was hit. So much for NATO solidaritypic.twitter.com/WUeXwqxqhh

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      3. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        What else US thought of Turkey’s downing the Russian jet? They thought it was an overreaction to “a minor violation of its airspace”pic.twitter.com/jOT9zZnOJ7

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      4. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        What about NATO? Oh, they were generous. They sent an air defence package against Russian incursions following the jet incident, including AWACS. But NATO diplomats WORRIED Ankara was too aggressive to defend its airspace against the repeated violationspic.twitter.com/W5rrEe60pA

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      5. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        Next, Germany/Luxembourg declared that Turkey cannot count on NATO support if there is a conflict with Russia in Syria. “NATO cannot allow itself to be pulled into a military escalation with Russia as a result of tensions between the two” Briefly: You cannot invoke article 4pic.twitter.com/PW7Yb5F0DO

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      6. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        Btw, US and Germany earlier in October 2015, a month before the downing of the jet, pulled their missile defense systems from Turkey. Not only US and NATO didn’t want to support Turkey against Russia, they also didn’t want to keep their missile defense systems in the countrypic.twitter.com/6LsYiB32e4

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      7. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        Meanwhile, U.S. decides to establish a partnership with PKK’s Syrian armed wing YPG against ISIS. YPG seizes key cities along Turkish-Syrian border, creating concerns that YPG will be able to capture the whole border area. Turkey looks for an exit. Then comes Russia again

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      8. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        Turkey wants to clear ISIS from Jarablus, but it couldn’t do that. Because Russians were threatening Turkish jets. In fear of an emerging PKK state in its borders, Turkey decides to sign a reconciliation deal with Russia, in order to operate freely and seize the territorypic.twitter.com/cmIWdz9kcV

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      9. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        As far as I gather from Turkish sources, Russians had a condition for the reconciliation deal: • Turkey would need to make a major Russian arms purchase as compensation for the downed jet and the killed pilot. Turkey takes the deal.

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      10. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        For Turkish officials in Ankara, after the coup attempt in July 2016, S-400 seemed like a good solution for Russian demands. At the time; there was no CAATSA, US didn’t want to sell a defense system to Turkey, and no one brought up S-400s possible implications on F-35.

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      11. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 22h22 hours ago

        So until this point: • US/NATO didn’t ensure Turkey about threats posed by Russia in Syria • US partners with Ankara’s arch enemy. Turkey is fearful of a PKK state in itsborder • US doesn’t want to sell an air system to Turkey (They didn’t even want to sell smart munition)

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      12. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 21h21 hours ago

        So, July 2017. US learns that Turkey is going to purchase S-400s. What is the US talking point then? “How do you interoperate in the NATO system?” asked then-US Defense Secretary Mattis. No mention of F-35pic.twitter.com/lFaO4bUiJM

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      13. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 21h21 hours ago

        Btw, at this point Turkey had already signed the S-400 deal. • The deal was inked by April 2017 • Trump signs CAATSA in law, August 2017 US waits until November 2017 to issue a soft threat about F-35.pic.twitter.com/xgl3b4RITG

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      14. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 21h21 hours ago

        I was in Washington between 2014-2019. NOT A SINGLE US OFFICIAL I talked believed that Turkey would actually buy S-400: •“It is a bluff” for concessions. • “I wouldn’t believe that for a second until I see with my own eyes that S-400s are actually in Turkey”

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      15. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 21h21 hours ago

        Turkish officials? They didn’t also believed that US was actually going to sanction Turkey over S-400z • “It is a bluff” to make us buy Patriots • “They cannot force us out of F-35 program” So on and so forth. Both sides didn’t believe each other for a second

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      16. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 21h21 hours ago

        No genuine effort shown by both sides to resolve the S-400 crisis. Both thought the other was bluffing. • US was wrong to underestimate Turkey’s resolve. Failed to understand Turkey’s security concerns • Turkey needed to see that S-400 is a genuine threat to F-35 END

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      2. Evrim Oztemir‏ @evrimoztemir 22h22 hours ago
        Replying to @ragipsoylu

        Guzel toparlamissin sir kronolojik olarak bir konuyu seneler evvelden baslayarak ele almak akil sagligi gerektirir muhtemeken TR de yasamiyorsun 😆

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      3. Orlando‏ @Orlandoxal 21h21 hours ago
        Replying to @evrimoztemir @ragipsoylu

        😆😆😆

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      4. Ragıp Soylu‏Verified account @ragipsoylu 21h21 hours ago
        Replying to @Orlandoxal @evrimoztemir

        Ankara’da yaşıyorum :))

        2 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
      5. Evrim Oztemir‏ @evrimoztemir 21h21 hours ago
        Replying to @ragipsoylu @Orlandoxal

        😆 nasi bi defans mekanizmasi gelistirdiysen artik

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      2. biji berxwedana SDF‏ @boerneaj 20h20 hours ago
        Replying to @ragipsoylu

        I see. Turkey allied with Russia because Russia was violating Turkish airspace to bomb Turkish allies. That makes perfect sense.

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      3. Ali Papa‏ @yeahboiii2018 19h19 hours ago
        Replying to @boerneaj @ragipsoylu

        You pkk terrorists are the worst. One moment you sit on the lap of the US, then the EU, then Assad's, then Russia's. Truly pathetic. You guys are good cannon fodder, though, compliment.

        2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      4. MehmetK.‏ @MehmtKosucuoglu 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @yeahboiii2018 @boerneaj @ragipsoylu

        Ethnic Kirmanchi ultrafascist aryan terror org ypg in their last http://days.in  their final vietnamisation threat they escaped with woman dresses in http://afrin.now  nowhere to http://escape.final  days...

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      5. biji berxwedana SDF‏ @boerneaj 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @MehmtKosucuoglu @yeahboiii2018 @ragipsoylu

        Now that Turkey has S-400, YPG's days are done!

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      6. MehmetK.‏ @MehmtKosucuoglu 15h15 hours ago
        Replying to @boerneaj @yeahboiii2018 @ragipsoylu

        S400 not for ethnic kirmanchi terrorist ypg

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