[S05E02] Prince Doran Martell of Dorne HD
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This is Prince Doran first appearance, I love Alexander Siddig
This scene is from Season 5 Episode 2 titled "The House of Black and White"
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You are my queen. The prince does not wish to be disturbed. Remove yourself from my path or I'll take that long axe and I'll shove it up your... Captain... let her pass. Your brother was murdered... and you sit here in the Water Gardens staring at the sky and doing nothing. Oberyn was slain during a trial by combat by a lord. That is no murder. Your brother... You don't have to remind me. He was my brother long before he was anything to you. What will you know about his death? I will bury him. I will mourn for him. And then? You would have me go to war. The whole country would have you go to war. Then we are lucky the whole country does not decide. The Sand Snakes are with me. We have the love of their people. They will avenge their father while you sit here in your chair doing nothing. Oberyn is dead. And this Lannister girl skips about the Water Gardens eating our food, breathing our air. How many of your brothers and sisters do they have to kill? Let me have her. Let me send her to Cersei one finger at a time. I loved my brother. And you made him very happy. For that, you will always have a place in my heart. But we do not mutilate little girls for vengeance. Not here. Not while I rule. And how long would that be?
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Lol want me to take her out nah fam it's good
He was the best King
I hate her
She should of been killed a long time ago
That bitch.... 😡
Talk about a storyline that ate up an entire episode's worth of running time and went nowhere.
I like how Doran has a logical and tactical rebuttal and response to everything Elaria says. He reminds me of Stannis with his unflinching, cool & calculated stance on things.
Ladies and gentle, let me introduce...
The dumbest, stupidest and most annoying bitch on GoT
The Dornish story line was sorely neglected in this show. I feel like they could have done a lot more with the talent they had on hand.
I *really* hate what they did with the entire Dorne plotline.
Dorne = Indians + Africans + Hispanic
Prince Oberyn: We do not hurt little girls in Dorne.
This guy had an incredible calm mind!
The majority of people would call it cowardice, but it really took strength to sacrifice own desire for justice for the benefit of the people of the country.
The show butchered his character. He has an entirely different conspiracy going on in the books
I like the Water Gardens
I'm sorry but didn't she just commit direct treason by threatening prince doran? Shouldn't he have beheaded her then?
Dorne looks so nice and Myrcella looks so pretty with that dress
Where are the martell's in season 7?
00:00-00:02 the sound you hear, resembles something that is being constrictred. Obviously the wristband/bracelet of a constricting snake is not a coincidence.
Holy shit that was Dr bashir
RIP, Dr. Bashir.
Ellaria deserved what Cersei did to her.
Not being funny they are great actors I loved the Dorne scenes
Never really got the hatred for dorne in the show especially when dorne is the worst part of book four aside from brienne's chapters. The sand snakes are imprisoned in the first chapter, Arys is boring, hotah might as well be a video camera, and arianne is like a boring version of cersei. The only good dornish characters in both the books and the show are oberyn and doran. Yeah ellaria has that great speech in book five but aside from that she doesn't do anything.
i loved oberyn, but dying in a trial by combat that he volunteered to participate in doesnt make the lannisters his murderer.
Doran should have killed this slut right here after that insult
Bashir? Did you go through another spacial anomaly? Well your not doing to badly for yourself (of you've been stabbed? I'm sure you can cure that!).
I heard back story of how skilled and dangerous the captain was its a shame they killed him off easy😕
This was such a great, and tragically wasted, performance. Doran could’ve been the Tywin of House Martell.
I really really REALLY liked Doran not on the same level as Joffrey Tywin or Ramsay but I liked Doran he understood when not to retaliate he was a good ruler but the bitch Sand murdered him and chose to go to war well while she rots in the dungeon she can contemplate her stupidity
doran of dorne lol
"Oberyn was killed in a combat, not murdered"
"We do not mutiliate our enemy family's daughter for vengeance"
The man is too good to be a GOT character.
and now he is rash al ghul
2:18 He like "It ain't nothing to cut a bitch. I'll do it. Just say the word"
The show really fucked the Martell up (physically) . In the book , this man is one of the best players . He's playing the long game like Olenna Tyrell , planning details and very cunning.
If you read the book you will see that it's not very simple like the show. Most of the players still alive and playing well (even Mace is not that stupid) .
The show fucked up two great houses : Tyrell and Martell . Olenna and Margaery dominated KL right now in the book , Doran Martells planning the long game and his daughter who also know how to play , Varys even more mystery , LF is more likely in the show , and Sansa Clark knows how to play the game (the show really fuck Sansa with her stupidity)
And now he is Ras Al Ghul in GOTHAM :)
I tired my luch with a dornish plotline Concerning Jaime and Bronn it's the same thing as in tv show until episode 6 when they reach the Water gardens and bronn is singing. Game of thrones Season 5 Episode 2. Scene 1
- Prince Doran is sitting watching his nieces play in the Water Gardens - Ellaria is walking towards him and sees Captain Hotah guarding him - Ellaria stops and asks Hotah: How is he doing today ? - Hotah Replies: As to be expected. - She taps him on the chest and continues to Doran - Doran sees her and says: I used to watch them play here - Ellaria: Arianna and Trystane ? - Doran: Oberyn and Elia, they used to jump from one pool to the other, full of life, vibrant. I am the oldest ... I was. I was 11 when they told me he was born, and 3 years late Elia came to the world.. they are both gone now and what is left is an old weak man who can barely walk - Ellaria: Doran... - Doran interrupts her and says: he loved you very much, I saw him lay with many men and women, all of them came and went. Only you stayed .. I want you to know that. - Ellaria: Every time I close my eyes I want to remember his love, his laugh, but all I can remember is that daunting moment when mountain crushed his head. - Doran: It will pass, take it from me. Scene two - Arianne and Trystane are standing on the balcony watching them. - Trystane: When do you think was the last time father left this palace? - Arianne: Perhaps before Elia's murder, in any way it's been too long that he doesn't know his own people anymore. - Trystane: The lords and Ladies of Dorne are riding for Sunspear. - Arianne: I know. She walks to him and says: don't worry, I will take care of it. - She walks away.
Game of thrones Season 5 Episode 4. - the scene opens in the hall of Sunspear Princess Arianne is sitting on the dornish throne, drinking, at her side her brother, Trystane. - A Dornish Lord: Our prince is dead, butchered. - A Dornish Lady: The Lannisters have gone too far, first Princess Elia and now Prince Oberyn.. this can not be forgiven. - A Dornish Lady: Tywin is dead, the time to strike is now. - Lord Yornwood: Everyone knows that Queen Cersei loves her children, and we have one of them. Let's send Cersei her daughter one piece at a time. - Princess Arianne stands and the hall goes quiet and starts walking to the center of the hall : My lords , My ladies .. if my uncle was alive he would be thrilled to see the love and loyalty the Dornish have for him. But he died during a trial by combat and by all the laws of Westeros that is not a murder. And lord Yorwood we do not mutilate girls for vengeance not here. But you are right The Lannisters owe us a debt, a debt that has not been paid in 20 years, Elia's murder. And believe me they will pay it ... after all Lannisters always pay their debts.
Game of thrones Season 5 Episode 6. Scene 1 - Trystane and Myrcella are walking in the water gardens - Trystane: I am going to tell them, we are ready. - Myrcella: Do you want to marry me because your family told you to or because .. - Trystane interrupts her and kisses a passionate kiss and then he says: I love you .. That's why I want you to be my wife - They see lord Yornwood walking to them. - Trystane: Lord Yornwood - Lord Yornwood: My prince. He goes quiet and looks over to Myrcella: I can't believe they let you be betrothed to this .. this Lannister Scum. - Arianne is walking with the maester behind them and overhears and says: Lord Yornwood, Did you just insult the Princess Myrcella? - Lord Yornwood: She is a Lannister - Arianne: Perhaps .. but she is betrothed to my brother and she will soon become a Martell, a member of the family you swore to serve. - Lord Yornwood: Forgive me - Arianne: I am not the one you should be asking forgiveness from - Lord Yornwood looks over to Myrcella and says in an irritated way: Forgive me. And then walks away - Arianne looks over to Myrcella and says: I am sorry my dear, could you give Trystane and I a moment. - Trystane tells Arianne: just because you are Father's eldest and his heir that does not mean I don't demand the same respect you do. - Arianne: The Dornish are angry at her family. So don't flaunt her in front of them ..You don't want to see her hurt. - Trystane: So I can't walk with her in my home - Arianne: For now it's best not to, besides there are other ways you can entertain a woman - Trystane: but we are not married yet - Arianne: and when did that ever stop you ? Scene two - jaime and bronn make there way to the Water gardens but right before they can enter the palace gates they get surrounded by dornish soldiers. - Bronn looks over to jaime and says: For Fucks Sake - Arianne walks to them and says: Welcome to Dorne Ser Jaime.
Game of thrones Season 5 Episode 7. - Bronn and Jaime in the cell - Bronn: I guess we will be dying soon. - Jaime: you don't know that. - Bronn: All Dornish are snakes and the Martells are the worst of them.
Game of thrones Season 5 Episode 9. - We see Jaime being escorted by Captain Hotah to Arianne whose standing on a terrace - Arianne: thank you Captain. - Jaime: I hoped I would be speaking to Prince Doran - Arianne: Why? Speaking to a woman is beneath you. She looks over him and says: My father is old, he is the prince of Dorne but only in name. She walks to him and says: Come Ser Jaime, let me show you how beautiful the gardens are here, I am sure they are better than that Shit-hole you call the capital. - The two start walking and come across Myrcella - Myrcella looks surprised and walks to them: uncle Jaime what are you doing here ? - Jaime looks happy to see her but then notices the necklace she is wearing, the same one he saw in the jaws of the viper. He wants to talk but before he can Arianne starts to talk. - Arianne: Your mother misses you very much, and since she can't visit you, she sent your favorite uncle to check up on you. - Jaime looks over to Arianne and then to Myrcella and smiles. - Arianne: Excuse us my dear, your uncle and I have important matters to discuss. Myrcella walks away - Jaime and Arianne continue to walk in the water gardens - Jaime: that necklace - Arianne: is supposed to be in Kingslanding in the jaws of a viper ? - Jaime looks shocked - Arianne: The dornish lords want revenge so bad they are willing to hurt an innocent child. But you are not innocent. - Jaime: Oberyn died .. - Arianne interrupts: I am not talking about Oberyn.. you were a member of Areys's Kingsguard.. sworn to protect him and his family. We have no love for the mad king, but wasn't Elia and her children a part of that family you were supposed to protect? Yet you let your father's banner men rape her, murder her and her children. Everywhere in westeros they know you as a kingslayer, but here in Dorne you are known as an oath breaker. - Jaime looks crushed. - Arianne: Myrcella is safe, she is one of us now, but I can't say the same about you. She looks over to Hotah and says: Could you please escort ser Jaime back to his cell.
Game of thrones season 5 Episode 10. Scene 1 - Bronn and Jaime in a cell in the night - Bronn is singing the rest of the Dornishmen's Wife - Jaime looks annoyed and says: Shut up - Ellaria walks to them and says: He has a pretty voice. - Jaime looks over and says: Lady Ellaria - Ellaria: I am not a lady. But I am a woman who wants to help you. - Jaime looks surprised and stands - Ellaria: When Oberyn died, my love for this world died with him. But I have 4 daughters all of whom have his eyes, his will to live and fight. I don't want to see them hurt or worse. And if you stay here that is exactly what will happen, a war that will make rivers filled with blood and bodies pile on the roads. - Jaime: I don't want to start a war either. - Ellaria: I am going to set you free, on one condition.. when you get to kings landing you will send us the mountain's skull thus washing the dornish's rage. - Jaime: I promise you - Ellaria: you should take Myrcella, The Martells will never harm her, but she is not safe as long as the Dornish are angry with your family. - Ellaria opens the cell door. - Jaime: thank you - Jaime and bronn start to walk behind Ellaria, she leads them to Myrcella's chamber. - They walk in, Jaime wakes Myrcella and tells her: Myrcella trust me, please we need to go now, there is no time to explain - Myrcella starts to look around and looks over and sees Ellaria - Ellaria: Please child, listen to your uncle. - Myrcella nods and starts to walk with them - They are seen by dornish soldiers who alert the palace - Jaime and Bronn start to fight the soldiers but the palace has been awaken - They are able to fight the men and reach a boat, that will lead them to a ship - They get in - Jaime looks to Ellaria and says: thank you - Ellaria: just don't forget your promise - The boat starts to row away when all of a sudden an arrow hits Myrcella. - The Shooter is Lord Yornwood who is standing with dornish soldiers and then he tells them: take her. Scene 2 the next morning - Arianne walks to the hall where there is Trystane, Ellaria, Lord Yornwood and other lords and ladies of Dorne - Arianne looks over to Ellaria and glares at her, then she looks over to Lord Yornwood and says: You murdered the princess Myrcella - Lord Yornwood: I did what you could not do - Arianne looks enraged comes closer to him that she whispers in his ears: you're right you did what we didn't do, and you should be rewarded. She comes closer and kisses him on the lips. Then slices his throat with a knife. - Arianne then looks over to Ellaria and says: you betrayed your house, you betrayed your family, you betrayed Dorne. You stole our chance of revenge by giving away the kingslayer, and in turn you caused Myrcella's death - She looks over to Hotah and says: Take her to the Tower where she will spend the rest of her days. And that's the dornish storyline in season 5 Please wait till season 6
Doran would've backed Jon & Dany 100%
Alexander Siddig did an almost perfect job as Doran... I hate that the show threw away his role for "girl power"
so Dornish accent is like a Spanish accent
The problem with this, is the sandsnake bitch actually thinks shes like, jsut and right, but shes the problem with every evil thing int he world. Shes out for blood and revenge. Shes a monster and im glad shes going to suffer for it.
Ellaria Sand = Dorne's Cersei.
This doesn't make any sense, she knows what Oberyn thought about killing children and raping them. Oberyn would have cursed his paramour and set her aside.
After 7×02 so funny watching thiy again
I fucking hate how Ellaria always talked shit on Doran, calling him "weak" and "pathetic".
Bitch, the man is in a wheelchair!
Btw, this guy was Dr. Julian Bashir on star trek DS9.
The sand snakes are a joke. Doran was too forgiving, he should have had her tongue ripped out.
I was just rereading A Dance with Dragons and was struck by the difference between book Ellaria Sand and show Ellaria. I mean they totally butchered the character, which is a pity because book Ellaria was worth portraying.
So for all non book readers, I present to you the real Ellaria Sand:
[...“The skull is large enough, no doubt,” said the prince. “And we know that Oberyn wounded Gregor grievously. Every report we have had since claims that Clegane died slowly, in great pain.”
“Just as Father intended,” said Tyene.
“Sisters, truly, I know the poison Father used. If his spear so much as broke the Mountain’s skin, Clegane is dead, I do not care how big he was. Doubt your little sister if you like, but never doubt our sire.”
Obara bristled. “I never did and never shall.” She gave the skull a mocking kiss. “This is a start, I’ll grant.”
“A start?” said Ellaria Sand, incredulous. “Gods forbid. I would it were a finish.
Tywin Lannister is dead. So are Robert Baratheon, Amory Lorch, and now Gregor Clegane, all those who had a hand in murdering Elia and her children.
Even Joffrey, who was not yet born when Elia died. I saw the boy perish with mine own eyes, clawing at his throat as he tried to draw a breath. Who else is there to kill?
Do Myrcella and Tommen need to die so the shades of Rhaenys and Aegon can be at rest? Where does it end?”
“It ends in blood, as it began,” said Lady Nym. “It ends when Casterly Rock is cracked open, so the sun can shine on the maggots and the worms within. It ends with the utter ruin of Tywin Lannister and all his works.”
“The man died at the hand of his own son,” Ellaria snapped back. “What more could you wish?”
“I could wish that he died at my hand.” Lady Nym settled in a chair, her long black braid falling across one shoulder to her lap.
She had her father’s widow’s peak. Beneath it her eyes were large and lustrous. Her wine-red lips curled in a silken smile.
“If he had, his dying would not have been so easy.”
“Ser Gregor does look lonely,” said Tyene, in her sweet septa’s voice. “He would like some company, I’m certain.”
Ellaria’s cheeks were wet with tears, her dark eyes shining.
Even weeping, she has a strength in her, the captain thought.
“Oberyn wanted vengeance for Elia. Now the three of you want vengeance for him.
I have four daughters, I remind you. Your sisters. My Elia is fourteen, almost a woman. Obella is twelve, on the brink of maidenhood. They worship you, as Dorea and Loreza worship them.
If you should die, must El and Obella seek vengeance for you, then Dorea and Loree for them? Is that how it goes, round and round forever? I ask again, where does it end?”
Ellaria Sand laid her hand on the Mountain’s head.
“I saw your father die. Here is his killer. Can I take a skull to bed with me, to give me comfort in the night? Will it make me laugh, write me songs, care for me when I am old and sick?”
“What would you have us do, my lady?” asked the Lady Nym. “Shall we lay down our spears and smile, and forget all the wrongs that have been done to us?”
“War will come, whether we wish it or not,” said Obara. “A boy king sits the Iron Throne. Lord Stannis holds the Wall and is gathering northmen to his cause.
The two queens are squabbling over Tommen like bitches with a juicy bone. The ironmen have taken the Shields and are raiding up the Mander, deep into the heart of the Reach, which means Highgarden will be preoccupied as well. Our enemies are in disarray. The time is ripe.”
“Ripe for what? To make more skulls?”
Ellaria Sand turned to the prince. “They will not see. I can hear no more of this.”
“Go back to your girls, Ellaria,” the prince told her. “I swear to you, no harm will come to them.”
“My prince.” Ellaria kissed him on the brow and took her leave. Areo Hotah was sad to see her go. She is a good woman.
When she had gone, Lady Nym said, “I know she loved our father well, but it is plain she never understood him.”
The prince gave her a curious look.
“She understood more than you ever will, Nymeria. And she made your father happy.
In the end a gentle heart may be worth more than pride or valor.
Be that as it may, there are things Ellaria does not know and should not know. This war has already begun.”]
@Pksoze From this to: "WHAT YOU NEED IS A BAD PUSSY"
10/10 adaptation wew a revelation to to TV entertainment
If they needed to push this plot, they should’ve just handled the Mountain’s “survival” with a bit more nuance. They could’ve ended the revenge quest with the Mountain, skull and all. Since the ambiguity of Robert Strong doesn’t translate well in a show (particularly with actors being cast) they could’ve kept his identity the same as it is now. With that, Ellaria or the Sand Snakes could hear rumors of the Mountain surviving and the conflict of Dorne could be whether such a rumor warrants investigation.
Thank you for this!
Book Ellaria Sand is such a well written character. Honestly, fuck the show. They screwed the Dorne plot.
The dialogue for the Sand Snakes had a bad decline as well...to go from this...
"“It ends when Casterly Rock is cracked open, so the sun can shine on the maggots and the worms within. It ends with the utter ruin of Tywin Lannister and all his works.”"
To "You're a greedy bitch" is pretty bad.
Fuck d&d
Ellaria: "To avenge a man who believed children were not to blame for their parents actions, i'm going to kill this kid because of what her parents did."
He should have let Hotah off her right then it would have saved the Dorne arc.
2:03 Awww, the brothers are actually kinda similar. That's really sweet
Doctor better leave the holosuite or captain sisko might come looking for him.
BASHEER WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DIE! YOU COULD HAVE MADE AN AWESOME KING
so... seven kingdom is ruling by queen cersei lannister, iron islands is queen yara greyjoy's, the reach is olenna tyrell. bear island is lyanna mormont, winterfell is sansa stark co-ruler with king jon snow. do rne is princess ellaria sands. and mother of dragon is coming. It is the reign of queens.
Iron throne cersei, reach wilas tyrell, wintefell is with Jon and unsure of what will happen in the books, dorne is doran's (ellaria has zero rights to succession). Dany perhaps will win the throne but she is garbage ruler.
Sooooo much better in the books...
Like most things, but it would make the show wayyyyyyyyyyy longer and more expensive
"Not hear, not while I rule." When Prince Doran said that you know he was going to get killed soon.
Sierra MatchKing He actually said "not here"
If only Doran had told Ellaria about his plan 😭 TBH if I was in her place I'd be pissed too over his attitude.
in the show he didn't have that plan
book Doran is just as irrational as show ellaria
the people responsible who killed his loved ones are dead but he won't give up his revenge plan because he doesn't want to feel it was all for nothing
@Alessandro Montiel Oh yeah his name was Quentyn. I found he was a boring character anyway
@Oven Mitts He sent Quentyn and he got cucked by the dragons
No, he has other ambitions in advancing Dorne's position. That's why he sent Trystane to Daenarys.
When he gave him the you want her dead nod ? He should have said yes lol
Even the guard didnt trust her and is why he walked in ready. They were both interesting and its unfortunate they are gone now.
iyi oldu su sakat serefsizin geberdigi, oberynin olumune bi bok yapmadi iyi ki öldü
They ruined what special there was in the Dorne/Martell storyline is one of the reasons why I will still read the books even if the tv series finishes first and reveals the ending.
Like the family bond they have no matter what happened/happens.
And when it was revealed that Doran and Oberyn were actually working together for a very longtime to avenge their sister.
Or when how shock and outraged the Sand Snakes were when they knew that Cersei was planning to ambush and kill Trystane, while in the tv series they killed him cold bloodedly.
They erased the great value and love that the Martells have for one another (Arianne was even ok to share his favourite lover to her cousins)
I loved the character of Arianne Martell and why did they excluded her, a character that, even though she was new and wasn't one of the main characters, had her own PoV.
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carol zebra xb
You know nothing, Jo... Ellaria!
These hoes aint loyal.
Sevilla looks very beautiful
Damn, you're not kidding. That place looks gorgeous.
Ellaria & The Pussy Brigade... D&D butchered Doran just as worse as they did Stannis in season 5. Alexander Siddig doesn't need this damn show hope he gets better work than this train wreck.
um ellaria i dont think u can own air
RIP House Martell :/ fuck Ellaria and her bitches
There is like a million Martells that are alive and also Elaria is not Martell so....
You just got your wish mate ;)
Martells aren't extinct like the baratheons bcz they still have elaria alive. It's like if stannis' wife was still alive, baratheons would still be a house
DapaChrons did you enjoy the last episode?
Melina Rain -- Are you serious?! NO ONE was fucking worse than that annoying inbred shit Joffrey. Hell I even prefer Ramsay over Joffrey! He's definitely interesting, and hilarious.
why would an entire country want to go to war for a perv like Oberyn when they have Doran who'd be a better king.
Oberyn was not a perv first of all. Secondly, Oberyn was still a prince and a part of Dorne's royal family.
how they butchered this awesome character
@TheFiresloth because the writers took out all his material most importantly Arianne and Quentyn martell
Exactly. Alexander Siddig is an incredible actor, such a waste. He did the best he could with poor dialog and a weak plotline the way the HBO show did it, as opposed to the complexity and depth of the books.
The actor was good. But he had nothing to work with.
OgahzLoL They didn't butcher him, I thought he was okay. The storyline though? Definitely
Literally
Fuck you D&D. You goddamn morons. Trying to surprise us isn't going to work, you're neve going to do it as well as Neds death or the Red Wedding. All your crappy original story is just crappy fanfiction.
EmeraldCrusade, D&D is short for David Benioff and D.B Weiss, the show producers, who approve shit like sexposition, all these random character deaths for shock value, etc;
dungeons and dragons? They are somehow connected to GoT?
+Patrick House those deaths were done pretty accurately to the books, but D&D got arrogant and tried to pull off their own "shocking" deaths that exist for shock value only and hold no emotional attachment
RIP
RIP Doran and cool black bodyguard... :/
doran used to be a saracen general and the right hand man of saladin if i remember it clearly
D&'D'd. Most true comment. They butchered a good storyline and the TRUE leader of Dorne and replaced him with a generic revengeful bitch.
Ainsley Harriott
King Edric I Baratheon Idk I kinda prefer him being a black dude that what he is supposed to look like from the books
He was Areo Hotah a norvoshi fighter
This guy kicks ass in the new episode!
+Olly bastardkiller FUK U OLLY
u little SHIT
Doran, Areo and Quentyn get killed by sand sneks.
+Chris Martinez quite possibly. We'll just have to see what happens later on in the series.
It looks like Tyrion is going to take part in Quentyn's storyline. But instead not be minced meat you know.
+nimble Navigator It's Trystane not Quentyn that gets murdered, I don't think Quentyn Martell has been in the show yet. in the books, he's the one who goes to see Dany across in Mereen
Ellaria Sand... She's a bastard born as well. They mention that in season 4.
@Chris Martinez no Oberyn was married to her and they had a daughter the girl who killed Dorans bodygard
Prince Doran is preparing something for the lannisters?
+Jhon Alex spoilers for the new episode
not any more.
This guy played a great Hannibal Barca battle of Cannae. Was glad to see him in GoT!
+Marc MS I know... :,( so sad
+ZhaoPao No more xD
2:18 bro. I got you.
i wish there were more loyal people like this dude in got.
"Oberyn wanted vengeance for Elia. Now the three of you want vengeance for him. I have four daughters, I remind you. Your sisters. My Elia is fourteen, almost a woman. Obella is twelve, on the brink of maidenhood. They worship you, as Dorea and Loreza worship them. If you should die, must El and Obella seek vengeance for you, then Dorea and Loree for them? Is that how it goes, round and round forever? I ask again, where does it end? I saw your father die. Here is his killer. Can I take a skull to bed with me, to give me comfort in the night? Will it make me laugh, write me songs, care for me when I am old and sick?" Damn you, D&D.
Like Doran is one of the most intellectual characters in the books!
I remembered that quote too. Doran & Ellaria has so much potential to be great players.
She's so annoying in the show
Seriously, damn you, D&D.
anyone else think alexander siddigs role in this past season was under utilizted?
me..of course I have loved him sense his STDS9 days..
+romanrecto
"featured more"
hehehe..
You're gonna be disapointed then
+romanrecto over utilizted in season 6
+bjorn joseph If he could feature more in Season 6 that would be great, his few scenes were amazingly acted. Although I feel he will, simply because of the backlash of Myrcella's death and dealing with the Sand Snakes. We may be seeing a different side of him
Fucking bitch...
he fucking confessed he killed her, you know the lannisters were behind it, how dare you.
+saintconnor see that is what they should be avenging. Oberyn';s death happened because he got too cocky and instead of finishing off the Mountain he was looking for a confession. If she wanted to avenge someone it should';ve been his sister. Oberyn lost the battle because of his own arrogance and paid the price. She can't blame the Lannister's for that when he decided to be Tyrion's champion. But you can blame them for giving the Mountain the ok to kill his sister. Or did she forget that since she was only caring about Oberyn's death?
I really admire Doran because he has 3 qualities that many others lack.
1. Patience.
2. Common sense.
3. A realistic assessment of his own power.
How many characters have died so far because they lacked those qualities?
some don't die you know why? Plot armor.
1987MartinT The Dorne storyline was my favorite for the same reasons
Stannis The Mannis or the instincts to suspect betrayal
I agree, and i also think those are some of traits that make a good leader. Time and time again i see ppl who believe that qualities of good leader ruling with a no nonsense iron fist, brash, impulsieness, being a macho, exuding what SEEMS to be confidence but is just really arrogance. BUT unfortunately as we see, the qualities of a good leader don't last long in the GoT world.
Had his son and future prince of Dorn married into the ruling family of the Seven Kingdoms and sat on its Small Council, the prosperity of his people would have been assured for another generation. He was playing the long game, but he underestimated his position.
season 6 will begin with prince doran sending her head to kings landing #the dornish master plan.
@Elbert JF monday monring FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
+tness93 You gonna be dissapointed dude.
+tness93 not really,the dornish master plan involves the remaining targaryans and sending a sand snake to the small council
Everyone hates the Lannisters. Starks, Arryns, Martells, Baratheons and now the Tyrells. Interesting that they are sitting on the throne.
i think doran is going to have to kill elaria for his own good
sooo,elaria is like the cersei of dorne
Dr. Bashir has really moved up in the world.
OmarAlQaseer He got a little tired of the Alamo, this new Westeros program is unpredictable
but still sexy as hell
Good one
Love it.
With Alexander Siddig, D&D wasted once again a perfect cast actor on their shittiest season to date. Him and Dillane deserved better.
jungooyaki honestly yeah dude 😂
now this season looks like gold to me
They killed Oberyn, yeah that was awfull! But he wasn't her husband! She killed Myrcella who was Cersei's daughter! It will be more painful for Cersei know that she lost her second child than it was for Ellaria when she saw the Mountain crushing Oberyn's head, I think.
Giant Ainsley Harriott ain't having any of that shit.
Dr. Julian Bashir !
i hope they don't gave up on the dorne storyline prince doran is a interesting character and think there's still some time for the dornish master plan to be played out I've heard of.
Why was she so murderously upset? Even that makes no rational sense.
Oberyn wasn't killed through any foul means. It was Trial By Combat, in which its accepted that the chance exists that the loser might die. He died fighting. And moreover, he died not because of anyone's fault but his own rage clouding his judgement.
+Nancy O'Malley It's not like she saw her beloved brutally killed by a man who raped his sister and then killed her and her children.
@Nancy O'Malley Totally agreed. Its just unthinking vengeance.
+Ares99999 Because she doesn't care. If he had killed the Mountain and survived and the Lannisters said it was murder(would not be surprised there), then she'd claim it was trial by combat
She basically changes the rules to suit her own needs
Doran, he is the most clever of the snakes. He lies silently in the grass not stirring allowing his enemies to grow cocky and arrogant. And then when they get too close, thinking that they are invulnerable he strikes.
The Lannisters were responsible for the death of his sister, niece, nephew, and his brother of course he is not going to forget or forgive such actions. But he is patient, he knows that the war of the five kings has weakened his northern neighbors, but they can grow weaker still. Soon the Lannisters and Tyrells will be claw at each others throats and then he will drive the spear of the martells through their hearts.
If oberyn was the viper, then doran was the grass. He concealed oberyn until he was ready to strike. Only oberyn and his daughters were considered snakes.
Actually the show is fanfiction shit so none of what happened in it is relevant to the real lore *so*
TheDeviantLord Actually he died and none of the shit you said happened so
What Is Dead May Never Die probably because there are some big factors in their history where they used cunning more than brute force to achieve their objectives.
Nah he dead
Maybe Game of Throne is all just one of Julian and Miles' holosuite programmes. Imagine if Colm Meaney is listed as a new cast member for Season 6?
Hope he gets more to do next season. I love the actor, it sucks that he was denied a better arc.
''While you sit hier in your chaiar doing nafing'' xD killed me with that one and...reminded me.
I hope they bring Doran back. I loved his character, and I love Alexander Siddig, but he was completely wasted this Season.
I'm sorry
What is it with these morons that they think the way to get back at someone is by killing someone totally innocent just because they're related to them?? That's not vengeance, that's just plain dumb.
Yamchachacha it's truly a fucking nightmare, worst case scenario ASOIAF adaptation and this isn't the only storyline that suffers
The whole point of Ellaria was that she DIDN'T want revenge, which makes this shitty plot so much worse! Oberyn talks about how the 'do not kill little girls in Dorne,' and THIS is what she does? What the fuck?
Literal quote from the books:
"If you should die, must El and Obella seek vengeance for you, then Dorea and Loree for them? Is that how it goes, round and round forever? I ask again, where does it end? I saw your father die. Here is his killer. Can I take a skull to bed with me, to give me comfort in the night? Will it make me laugh, write me songs, care for me when I am old and sick?"
It is dumb, that's why it never happens in the books. I only watch this to see my favorite characters come to life. Otherwise anything that happens here isn't real because somehow the TV show writers have killed off more people that George.R.R.Martin.
antred11 because bad writing
@Mme. LeCykes they killed him
Is that accent of hers real? It sounds kind of fake.