Would you pay $100 for a Chinese Salvage Motherboard?? I did..

[nicklmg]

 

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[CUDAcores89]

This is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. There are many, MANY Chinese vendors out there making motherboards for all sorts of CPU sockets Intel no longer supports. 

 

In Places like Russia and South America, import taxes make buying new hardware so expensive that it's cheaper to buy these boards and install server CPUs, then overclock them (the E5-16xx series at least) and you can get 80-90% of the performance of AMD Ryzen for half the cost. 

 

These motherboards also support ECC Registered server memory which is extremely cheap on the used market.

 

 

 

 

Server CPUs and Server RAM has flooded the market and is extremely cheap because server CPUs and RAM can't be used in consumer motherboards. The innovative Chinese have just figured out a way to allow the masses to easily reuse these cheap server chips.

 

X58, X79, and LGA 1356 still kick-ass as long as your CPU has clocks in the 2.6GHz+ range, and is something I can still easily recommend to anyone building a gaming PC these days and either wants a machine purely for productivity (so they need a lot of RAM), or is in a situation where AMD stuff is too expensive.

 

My next hope is that the chinese start making motherboards for LGA 1567. LGA 1567 was another really weird Socket that was only used on some Dell/Supermicro boards but went up to 8 cores/16 threads, but I haven't seen any cloned boards for that socket yet. But I sure would like to, since you can currently get an LGA 1567 8 core 2.66GHz CPU for something like $20.

[givingtnt]

A lot of stuff from china is made out to be junk,
But all the custom boards they make is great !

Like, for example, the random board I bought that turns an old Thinkpad laptop LCD to a fully functionning, vga/dvi/hdmi capable monitor with sound in/out
twas like 30$ cad

[RGBLEDCPU]

I follow a 100+ channels on YouTube (only about a dozen of them make daily videos), but the only channel I encountered this 360p issue (where the video gets stuck in 360p for a while) is LTT. I have never seen this with any other channel, small one or big one.

[White]

MANY X79 boards have hacked/patched BIOSes that allow them to support NVME SSDs up to their rated speeds.

Source: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?48001-R4E-BIOS-4804-MODDED-EFI-Intel-13-1-0-2126-Download

currently using such a setup and its surprisingly easy to do yourself if you don't trust random people on the internet

[James Evens]

Amazing that linus (pretends (?)) to believe the jeah jeah new intel chipsets. Make him look like he never talked to much with Chinese not fluently speaking English.  

[demonix00]

  12 hours ago, RGBLEDCPU said:

I follow a 100+ channels on YouTube (only about a dozen of them make daily videos), but the only channel I encountered this 360p issue (where the video gets stuck in 360p for a while) is LTT. I have never seen this with any other channel, small one or big one.

You should be thankful that you are getting anything as the video refuses to even load on my roku which has driven another nail deep into its coffin as I will be replacing it in the not to distant future.

[JimT]

  12 hours ago, demonix00 said:

You should be thankful that you are getting anything as the video refuses to even load on my roku which has driven another nail deep into its coffin as I will be replacing it in the not to distant future.

I fast forward 10 seconds when that happens and always sorts it

[JimT]

Anyone have links to boards & chips. 

Would like to have a go at a server with this 

[SkyHound0202]

The entire LGA2011v1 community is alive and well out there. In fact, a six year old Ivy Bridge EP chip still outperform a modern Ryzen in some workload.

 

There's a Russian site offers BIOS mod for those Chinese boards with guides and tutorials for modding and overclocking chips and RAMs.

 

These Chinese boards are sometimes amazing values, since they accept REG ECC DIMMs and Xeons, which are much cheaper and readily-available on second hand market (decommissioned server parts). The only problems is that the manufacturers will change revision without notice and vendors typically don't disclose exact revision, making getting one really risky and requires a lot of luck.

[Tristerin]

Me:  Once I discovered AliExpress isn't really a scam, Ive saved so much money on PC parts.  

 

Of course there are the obvious scams, just like Ebay.  And yes I have been refunded by AliExpress when something came in broken from shipping.  

[fasauceome]

  12 hours ago, Tristerin said:

And yes I have been refunded by AliExpress when something came in broken from shipping.  

I've discovered the magic that those random Chinese companies just instantly give the refund without dispute because they don't have the time to bother

[Tristerin]

  11 hours ago, fasauceome said:

I've discovered the magic that those random Chinese companies just instantly give the refund without dispute because they don't have the time to bother

I had 1 argue a dispute...sent a radiator without the barb fittings, had to do the 3 day process negotiating till AliExpress stepped in and they agreed to my negotiation that they owe me the price of purchasing a set of barb fittings (and gave them a link from Ebay) so they refunded the amount I was paying to have barb fittings shipped to my house quickly (since I expected my package to have them) from Ebay.  Cant complain so far!  Other than atrocious shipping times (compared to Ebay even from the same countries)

[Kroon]

  12 hours ago, RGBLEDCPU said:

I follow a 100+ channels on YouTube (only about a dozen of them make daily videos), but the only channel I encountered this 360p issue (where the video gets stuck in 360p for a while) is LTT. I have never seen this with any other channel, small one or big one.

 

From what I understand is that due to the strange aspect ratio LLT are using, YouTube prioritising.  

[Hero1117]

Do you have a list of the cooling parts used?

 

[aisle9]

The GPUs at the beginning of the video are the ones that show up on eBay marketed as GTX 1050s, GTX 960s, etc. That alone scares me away from anything made by this company.

[GloriousPain]

  12 hours ago, SkyHound0202 said:

The only problems is that the manufacturers will change revision without notice and vendors typically don't disclose exact revision, making getting one really risky and requires a lot of luck.

I mean from what I've heard typically the newer the revision the better, and I don't know why they'd keep the older revisions, and if you inspect the pictures carefully you should be able to get a rough idea of the oldest you could get... You really think there's that much of a risk of you getting an older revision that's that much worse?

 

  11 hours ago, fasauceome said:

I've discovered the magic that those random Chinese companies just instantly give the refund without dispute because they don't have the time to bother

I wonder if that's abusable. 

[Streetguru]

Thank god AMD/Ryzen saved us from Intel

[kennethnakasone]

Would anyone happen to know what the iommu groupings are for these motherboards? Do the boards separate devices into their own groups by default, or would someone have to ACS override?

[VegetableStu]

obligatory @Lurick and @Aivex_Someone 

 

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> i went with a 4960X, so that's the top end chip for this platform

 

gonna guess without checking with google: 8 core?

 

> that's a 6-core processor, it think it peaks at 4ghz boost

 

...... oh wow so totally off LOL

 

EDIT: also wow I kinda love how their blue mATX X79 board on the posterwall has the width of an ITX board o_o

[vipast]

Actually, I'm surprised you didn't already know about these boards, before you even went. These things are super popular, and you shop on AliExpress so you think you would have ran across these items. They make SLI/Crossfire boards and duel socket boards. Start ordering and testing.... Download the Russian BIOS and start Overclocking your LGA 2011 CPUs too. 

 

Linus, you should look at these when you get a chance. There are some better boards out there, and pretty nice setups from Chinese reman/new motherboards Ali express X79 boards are my thing! I built 4 lga2011 X79 board builds from Ali Express for my Kids builds with 4 channel 32gb of RAM. I love this build. Prices with 1660ti when I bought there were cheap and Powerful. All my kids stream, and can stream at 1080p-60fps while playing games (fortnite 120fps Epic settings). They are happy, and I was impressed, and a little jealous as the performance for what I paid, was rivaling my 2600x w/2060 that I build for about $1000. FYI , Prices gone up from when I purchased it seems, I purchased in mid May 2019 ($ in USD)

CPU - Intel Xeon E5 2650 V2 Processor 8 CORE 2.6GHz (I paid $64.99)

X79 Motherboard 2011 ATX Main Board USB3.0 SATA3.0 PCI-E 16X NVME M.2 SSD (I paid $75)

RAM (total 32gb) = 8GB x 4 1866 ECC DDR3 (I paid $16.53 each - total $66.12)

Aigo CPU Cooler Radiator TDP 280W Heat Sink Silent 120mm (I paid $23.07)

DIYPC DIY-F2-P Black / Purple SPCC Micro ATX Mini Tower Computer Case {also bought it in white/blue and orange/black} ( I paid about $35)

EVGA 550 N1 100-N1-0550-L1 550W (I paid $30 after main in rebate)

Silicon Power 512GB NVMe M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 x4 ( I paid $55 on sale)

MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (I paid $260 after Rebate) TOTAL = $610

 

What I Purchased Links:

RAM 8GB x 4 1866 ECC DDR3 (I paid $16.53)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32647581389.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5ba04c4d2XcUU3

CPU - Intel Xeon E5 2650 V2 Processor 8 CORE 2.6GHz (I paid $64.99)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32966741883.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5ba04c4d2XcUU3

X79 Motherboard 2011 ATX Main Board USB3.0 SATA3.0 PCI-E 16X NVME M.2 SSD (I paid $75)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33016142058.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5ba04c4d2XcUU3

Aigo CPU Cooler Radiator TDP 280W Heat Sink Silent 120mm (I paid $23.07)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33000483882.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dmckFWk

DIYPC DIY-F2-P Black / Purple SPCC Micro ATX Mini Tower Computer Case {also bought it in white/blue and orange/black} ( I paid about $35)

EVGA 550 N1 100-N1-0550-L1 550W (I paid $30 after main in rebate)

https://www.newegg.com/evga-550-n1-100-n1-0550-l1-550w/p/N82E16817438105?Item=N82E16817438105

Silicon Power 512GB NVMe M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 x4 ( I paid $55 on sale)

https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-p34a80-512gb/p/N82E16820301394?Item=N82E16820301394

MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (I paid $260 after Rebate) https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-gtx-1660-ti-ventus-xs-6g-oc/p/N82E16814137392?Item=N82E16814137392&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2fRGyV3C%2fmsi-geforce-gtx-1660-ti-6-gb-ventus-xs-video-card-gtx-1660-ti-ventus-xs-6g-oc&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-m1NvwLlkrpZo6S9Cp6qZhQ

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