/u/Limro suggested to create a sticky thread with a list of the most popular fics similar to HPMOR.
Worm
An introverted teenage girl with an unconventional superpower, Taylor goes out in costume to find escape from a deeply unhappy and frustrated civilian life. Her first attempt at taking down a supervillain sees her mistaken for one, thrusting her into the midst of the local ‘cape’ scene’s politics, unwritten rules, and ambiguous morals. As she risks life and limb, Taylor faces the dilemma of having to do the wrong things for the right reasons.
Ra
Magic is real. Discovered in the 1970s, magic is now a bona fide field of engineering. There's magic in heavy industry and magic in your home. It's what's next after electricity.Student mage Laura Ferno has designs on the future: her mother died trying to reach space using magic, and Laura wants to succeed where she failed. But first, she has to work out what went wrong. And who her mother really was.
Mother of Learning
Zorian, a mage in training, only wanted to finish his education in peace. Now he struggles to find answers as he finds himself repeatedly reliving the same month. 'Groundhog's day' style setup in a fantasy world.
Shadows of the Limelight
This is a world where fame grants powers. Dominic de Luca was a thief and a liar before entering into the apprenticeship of Welexi Whitespear, the greatest hero of modern times. Now he must navigate the world of the Illustrati, the famous and the infamous, as he tries to secure for himself a place among the gods.
The Martian
A (hard) science fiction novel set in the near future. The story follows a resourceful and witty NASA Astronaut who becomes stranded on Mars as the rest of his crew mistakenly abandons him for dead in a sand storm. It has been described as an Apollo 13 meets Cast Away and lauded for its technical and scientific accuracy.
I was searching for HPMoR fan-fiction some time ago and found one that started with something along the lines of "unlike stories, in real life problems don't solve themselves after you beat the big bad dark wizard" but now I can't find it. If anybody knows which fan-fiction starts like this, please respond.
At the end of Ch. 82:
A final image came to him, then: Lily Potter standing in front of her baby's crib and measuring the intervals between outcomes: the final outcome if she stayed and tried to curse her enemy (dead Lily, dead Harry), the final outcome if she walked away (live Lily, dead Harry), weighing the expected utilities, and making the only sensible choice.
She would've been Harry's mother if she had.
"But human beings can't live like that," the boy's lips whispered to the empty classroom. "Human beings can't live like that."
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For me it is not clear what would be the right choice for Lily.
Behind Harry, the door unlocked itself and swung open.
Harry left.
It was Friday, April 10th, of 1992.
The phrasing is very uncharacteristic of the general style. It suggests that the date is significant somehow, since it seems to be the only place where a date was stated outright in the text.
And yet, I'm failing to see any callbacks to that date in the text, and googling hpmor.com for "april 10" and "april tenth" have shown no results. Neither has the reddit search on /r/HPMOR.
Is there some kind of a veiled callback I haven't seen? Or is it just a dramatic device?
Does anyone still have hard cover versions/is there an easy way for me to obtain one?
According to Eliezer himself, learning the Patronus Charm 2.0 makes you unable to cast any version of the Killing Curse, whereas learning the Killing Curse 2.0 makes you unable to cast any variant of the Patronus Charm. It means that there are three mutually exclusive states of mind a person can have regarding those spells:
A person believes that Death can and should be defeated, enabling them to cast the True Patronus Charm. They cannot summon a regular Patronus, since they aren't capable of ignoring Death, and they cannot hate somebody enough to want them dead for the sake of it, much less not care about their life or death. The only people who ever unlocked such a state of mind are Harry, Hermione and maybe Godric Gryffindoor - the details are sort of unclear.
A person does not consider Death to be their enemy, but they still care about their fellow sentients. They can cast both a Patronus Charm and the Killing Curse given the right training and magical power, but the improved variants remain locked to them. Most wizards seem to fall under this category, though few can use both spells due to how tough they are to learn.
A person is apathetic enough regarding the lives of others for them to cast the True Killing Curse through their apathy. They cannot summon any Patronus, since they don't want Death defeated and cannot bring themselves to be happy and they have no reason to cast the basic Killing Curse, assuming they are even capable of doing so. Dark Evangel and Tom Riddle are likely the only ones who managed to weaponize such an attitude, though there are probably more people who think like that.
There are of course other, 'inferior' states of mind, such as being capable of happiness but not of murderous hatred - Dumbledore - or being utterly hateful and unhappy - most Slytherins - but let's focus on these three. My questions on the topic are:
Can a person switch between these states of mind? As in, what if I hated somebody enough to want them dead for the sake of being dead because they did something awful to me, but after some therapy I learned the value of forgiveness and became a transhumanist who wished to give everyone immortality? Or what if I learned that there was indeed a way to defeat Death and it caused me to desire immortality for everyone, but then obliviated that memory and became able to ignore Death once more? If something like that is possible, then I say there's a good chance for Harry to learn the Killing Curse after all, especially with his 'Dark Side' in play. If not, then that means that Harry's endeavor to teach Voldemort love and happiness is doomed to fail by default.
Is it possible for these ideologies to have reasonable exceptions? If I was a True Patronus caster, would that make me obligated to try and save everyone, regardless of what they themselves wanted? Would I need to save the Sorting Hat, even though it only wanted to die? (I suspect the answer is no, since Harry was willing to let the Hat be destoyed, but he had multiple reasons for it). What if I was deeply concerned about everyone's lives, but was also hopelessly suicidal and desired immortality for everyone but myself? Conversely, if I was absolutely selfless and cared about any life other than my own, would I be able to cast the True Killing Curse on myself?
Bonus question: Which variant do you find most useful, all other things being equal? Assuming that there are no clever tricks to bypass the mutual exclusivety and that you would keep pursuing your current ideals regardless of what ideology you chose, would you rather be able to cast the True Patronus Charm, the True Killing Curse or the vanilla versions?
Niels Högel, aka the killer nurse [1] [2].A few days ago he was convicted of killing 85 patients by administering them heart medications. Why did he do that? Apparently to impress the hospital staff, by performing CPR on his patients having a cardiac arrest. He was so prolific in his job that in the hospital they started calling him "resuscitation Rambo", not due to his (not-so-high) success rate, but because of the show he put up (he would shove other doctors aside and begin the resuscitation).
When I first read about this story, the nurse's motive sounded so alien to me that I didn't quite know what to think. Until it hit me that I knew another character who made himself monster so that he could also play the role of hero.
During a trial that started in October 2018, Högel was accused of 100 counts of murder. He was cleared of only 14 counts, and confessed to 43 murders. In 52 instances, he said he simply could not remember.
Stopped counting ssomewhere around one hundred and sseven
I was rereading chapter 45 (I was alluding to some lines in a poem), and I noticed:
"They had come very close to the Dementor's cage guarded by four Patronuses, when there came sharp intakes of breath from the three Aurors and Professor Quirrell."
Right after the inner monologue wherein the reader is informed that Dementors are NOT fear, but before their true nature is revealed.
However knowing the nature of Quirrell, even his below quip wherein he says he eats death - we see a set of 4, and then a single element of that set being singled, around the Dementor-cage, which brought to mind the traditional 4 heralds of the Apocalypse - of which one is Death.
Now, this is very possibly a false positive, but there you go.
*This idea comes from the Atlas temple of Nasuverse
And he finished his work by producing Harry Potter and prevent him from destorying the world successfully (at least, for now).
I noticed that there's something strange with how humans play chess. It potentially may be groundbreaking for understanding intellegence, biases and awarness/attention and learning and etc. even through at first it may seem minor or quite uselesss (if you read HPMOR your should understand it; Harry wanted to conquer the world with comed-tea). I made a thread about it
Nobody understand me but I got to share my idea(s) in the comments.
When they finally understood nobody believed what I am capable of (just joshing, nothing special) and downvoted my posts, not believing their top GMs couldn't figure out this one simple trick to enlarge your...
So what should I do next with my hpmor-like-extinction-level atlantias-like knowledge?
Don't tell anybody and try to get strong enough to [...]
Tell this to [...](wich subreddit, maybe?)
Start a Chess Conspiracy [how? with who?]
A Prophecy tells [...]
Teach rationalist to [...]
It's like 90 degrees outside and I'm writing about Christmas. D:
Ao3: https://archiveofourown.org/works/14984261/chapters/45074245
FFN: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12975806/31/Harry-Potter-and-the-Secret-of-the-Patronus
Throughout the story Harry has criticized cynicism on multiple occasions, claiming that people are only cynical because they like pretending to be wise and that Professor Quirrell is being too cynical for his own good. Is he right though? Or rather, does the narrative treat Harry's opinion as the correct one? Words such as:
Why does any kind of cynicism appeal to people? Because it seems like a mark of maturity, of sophistication, like you’ve seen everything and know better. Or because putting something down feels like pushing yourself up. Or they don’t have a phoenix themselves, so their political instinct tells them there’s no advantage to be gained from saying nice things about phoenixes. Or because being cynical feels like knowing a secret truth that common people don’t know…
sound like a straight-forward message at first glance, but looking at the story as a whole, I get the impression that Harry is being too idealistic after all.
Cynicism, in the modern sense of the word, can be roughly defined as "an attitude characterized by a general distrust of others' motives" That is a quality Harry definitely lacks, at least in regards to Professor Quirrell. In Chapter 85, Harry outright admits that his non-violent ideals are somewhat naive and sends his Phoenix away, rendering his explanation for why people don't consider Phoenixes to be a sign of virture dubious at best. And while I'll be the first to to point out how many mistakes Voldemort has made, his cynicism never really played out into any of these. He correctly views the wizarding society as disfunctional and its government as useless, he recognizes the way Snape is being used by Dumbledore - something that Harry failed to recognize even when it was pointed out to him - and his assertion that people would rather play roles than actually act in the best interest of themselves or each other is largely correct, even if he underestimates people's ability to break out of these roles. The only time he is wrong due to being too cynical is when he fails to understand Snape's reasons for helping Hermione, which isn't nearly as much of a mistake as Harry's misguided trust.
So is Harry in the right, or is Quirrellmort the wisest person in the room after all?
People who haven’t finished the book yet, post which chapter you’re on and your predictions + confidence for the answers to any questions that have come up, then update them properly when you get new evidence.
People should totally hire me to write their chapter titles.
Ao3: https://archiveofourown.org/works/14984261/chapters/44635573
FFN: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12975806/30/Harry-Potter-and-the-Secret-of-the-Patronus
Harry's gaze went to what lay beneath the cloak, the horror far worse than any decaying mummy. Rowena Ravenclaw might also have known, for it was an obvious enough riddle once you saw it as a riddle.
And it was also obvious why the Patronuses were animals. The animals didn't know they were being exploited, and thus were sheltered from the despair and rage.
But Harry knew, and would always know, and would never be able to forget. He'd tried to teach himself to face reality without flinching, and though Harry had not yet mastered that art, still those grooves had been worn into his mind, the learned reflex to look toward the problem instead of away. Harry would never be able to forget by thinking warm happy thoughts about something else, and that was why the spell hadn't worked for him.
So Harry would think a warm happy thought that wasn't about something else.
Harry drew forth his wand that Professor Flitwick had returned to him, put his feet into the beginning stance for the Patronus Charm.
Within his mind, Harry discarded the last remnants of the peace of the phoenix, put aside the calm, the dreamlike state, remembered instead Fawkes's piercing cry, and roused himself for battle. Called upon all the pieces and elements of himself to awaken. Raised up within himself all the strength that the Patronus Charm could ever draw upon, to put himself into the right frame of mind for the final warm and happy thought; remembered all bright things.
The copy of Communist Manifesto his father had bought him.
Professor McGonagall telling him that his parents had died well, fighting the racist, classist, fascist maniac. As they had.
Realizing that Hermione was keeping up with him and even running faster, that they could achieve great things together.
Coaxing Draco out of the darkness, turning him against his corrupt family of aristocrats.
This video (especially 5:59) inspired me:
https://youtu.be/jEr038WOKFI?t=359
To compare rationalism with joke-version of these theories (String Theory and Loop Quantum Gravity):
"Imagine smart people don't exist. Rationalists could be the smartest" (maybe?)
"Imagine scientists don't exist. Rationalists could be scientists" (maybe?) +
"Imagine Science don't exist. Rationalists could "predict" Science" (maybe?)
"Imagine a big yet non-existent threat or highly dangerous new knowledge (imagine it is somehow controlled by rationalists). Rationalists could make the right choice" (or not only them; or the choice is not right)
Every assertion is doubtful even if was true
(When can I start a movement that make a change only in stories and possibly impossible worlds we know nothing about anyway?)
"Imagine a fictional world were rationality is good... [it doesn't work] imagine a modified version of a fictional world were rationality is good (with every assertion above on top)" (want to see a scientific theory that works like this)
(Minor spoiler for the last "Avengers" movie, some spoilers for HPMOR)
I'll make this short: we know that Harry Potter
is planning on world optimization;
has very high odds on becoming a Dark Lord;
there is a prophecy about him destroying the world;
can do literally anything by snapping his fingers.
Not to mention that Thanos has a minion who looks like a crossbreed from Voldemort and Squidward (a ressurection gone wrong?).
At this point I think it's very clear that Thanos is a future version of Harry who has fallen into his dark side.
(don't want to make any more spoilers so I won't go into details, but there are other similarities)
(also Nick Fury is actually Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody undercover)
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