Look I feel we are repeating playbook that elected #DerangedDonald's 2016 election. @BernieSanders @DrJillStein attacked @HillaryClinton on speaking fees. Dividing from within weakens 2020 best shot at taking Presidency. GOP circles wagon, let's do same.@ewarren @BarackObama
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So the problem was that others pointed out she was accepting huge speaking fees from a problematic industry she might soon be in a position to do favors for, not that she was doing it in the first place? Is *saying* Biden screwed over Anita Hill is worse than him doing it?
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The party IS divided--has been for a while, it's just some of you hadn't noticed until recently--and we need a vigorous discussion of the policy differences during this primary if we're going to end up with a candidate we CAN unify behind in 2020. It's hard, necessary work.
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They want us to unify on their terms
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The biggest problem there is that the people who can refuse to make concessions (leadership) will do just fine no matter what the outcome is, and they can just blame the "intransigent left" for not being willing to negotiate if they so choose, without paying a price themselves.
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What is she talking about? So now she wants to forgive credit card debt so people can blame someone else for spending beyond their means?
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She's talking about an Biden championing of the "bankruptcy abuse act 2005". It gives CC companies more power to extract debt even if the consumer enters bankruptcy. His donors are finance company and given their behavior over the decades he's going to have a lot to answer for.
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One of the things that Biden opposed was an amendment to this bill that would have prevented "judge shopping" where CC companies could manipulate the system to choose judges who have favored them in the past thus further biasing the system against consumers.
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well at least someone is saying it
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Biden has been screwing over Americans to help the financial industry for his entire career. If Democrats are too morally and/or intellectually vacant to not nominate a conservative corporatist against Trump, then the Democratic Party is worthless
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even the cynical elitist Hillary Clinton was all told probably considerably more ~progressive~ than Joe Biden, who entered into politics as a white conservative opposing desegregation and was a legislative AUTHOR of racist mass incarceration.
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Another fun fact: no single politician in the US is more directly responsible for the college debt crisis that Joe Biden, who wrote and/or championed the bills making it impossible to eliminate student loan debt even through bankruptcy. Joe Biden CREATES political problems
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@ewarren I like you. I hope you can speak of your own qualities without disparaging our other candidates. When all is said and done, we need to be united. Don’t be another version of the 2016 Bernie Sanders. Don’t help Trump win. -
Stop being a child, by chiding and dismissing the real concerns Warren brings up here you aren't helping Democrats. You're only showing that the establishment can't change or address it's failings.
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Yep. That explains your take re Disparage and attack. It’s not being a child to think many of her ideas are great and great ideas stand on their own merits. Nor is realizing that deliberately “shaming the front runners” will hurt Dems after all is said and done.pic.twitter.com/DDdPlkslDP
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2. Ignoring the real consequences of mainstream dem actions is the problem, not pointing those problems out. Those actions helped turn the country right and led to to rise of trump. So stop doing those things. "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.'
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I agree. I just think it can be done without disparaging. That's a very specific word. It doesn't mean simply pointing out policy differences. That - we do need. Disparaging is a more malicious way of "going after" people. We don't need that.
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Disparaging is the best way to get them to act. It hurts nobody to do so, especially not this early in the primary (when it is necessary to weed out the worst candidates). Giving people a pass on conduct or policy because they poll well early is how the GOP ended up with Trump.
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You're entitled to your opinion. I expect candidates who can articulate their differences without disparaging. That's not the same as giving a pass. Policy and conduct can and should be discussed. It's not the same thing.
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Some of the most insidious people are outwardly very polite and calm, and this is because some people see decorum as more important than the effects of their policies. Warren did not even swear and already you are upset because she wasn’t respectful enough. Priorities, people.
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