I’d love to say that this article stands alone, but it doesn't. It's builds on "An example of how commercial fragrances are composed,” so if you haven’t read that one yet, you should stop and do so, otherwise a lot of what i’m about to say probably won’t make a whole lot of sense.
I go back and forth on the concept of fragrance notes. They’re so damn useful, but they’re also so damn wrong. Highly misleading at the very least.
Here’s the thing: the average person just seems content to take fragrances as mostly pleasant blobs of smell that are fundamentally alien and not to be truly understood by lay people. When people get past that point and want to dig deeper inte fragrance, inevitably the first thing they come across is the concept of fragrance notes. No longer are fragrances just smell blobs with hints of recognizable things sticking out a bit. Now there are notes! A whole list of things, some of which are unfamiliar and some of which can’t actually be detected by our fictional budding perfumista/perfumaestro. It’s like an ingredients list.
Except it isn’t. That’s the first common misconception around notes. It’s easy to forget sometimes, even for more experienced folks. Sometimes a notes listing will say “jasmine” and there will be actual jasmine absolute in it. Sometimes, it will say “jasmine” and there will be a jasmine specialty base in it, a replacement that isn’t actual jasmine oil but is supposed to smell as close to actual jasmine oil as possible. Sometimes, the perfumer decided to use a substantial amount of a material that isn’t actually jasmine or even at attempt to reproduce a realistic jasmine smell, but it happens to be found in jasmine, so (unsure of how else to describe it) the person writing the notes listing puts it down as “jasmine.” This might happen with benzyl acetate. Sometimes (pretty often actually), the perfumer will decide to make heavy use of a material that doesn’t really smell a whole lot like jasmine, is being used for entirely different reasons than its faint jasmine-like smell, and isn’t even found in natural jasmine...but maybe it happens to be closely related to a single molecule that is in real jasmine, or just kind-of-sort-of smells like jasmine. Guess what? That sometimes gets listed as “jasmine” too. When I wrote the above, I was thinking of a specific material: methyl dihydrojasmonate a.k.a. Hedione.
And sometimes, even though it makes up a large portion of the fragrance formula and contributes heavily to the final fragrance smell, it doesn’t get listed at all. That happens an awful lot.
Whenever someone writes about how fragrances smell, there's a giant elephant in the room that is rarely addressed. You might have noticed it waving its trunk around when you read the article on how fragrances are composed. I’ll spell it out:
Most fragrance consumers have zero familiarity with the the basic building blocks of modern fragrances, and rather than tell people that they need to become familiar with them in order to understand fragrance composition, everyone pretends that they smell close enough to everyday materials that no one needs to do anything special.
This is B.S. You can absolutely enjoy fragrance as a pleasant smell blob without learning a damn thing about it, but you can’t really understand what’s in it and why it smells the way it does without understanding the raw materials used.
As soon as someone tries peeling back the veil and discovers fragrance notes, it empowers them with information. That information just happens to almost always be taken out of context, and when it’s taken out of context, it’s wrong.
That’s not to say that fragrance notes aren’t helpful. I often use them myself and find them very helpful. I have a couple of advantages though:
I realize that notes are not ingredients
I understand enough about how fragrances are composed to be able to read between the lines.
That first point is incredibly important, so i’ll repeat it again:
Notes are not ingredients
A real ingredient might or might not show up in a notes listing. If a note is listed, the fragrance might contain that exact ingredient, or it might not. The only thing that a note tells you is that someone out there decided that a customer might experience something that reminds them of that note. That’s all.
It’s hard to emphasize just how arbitrary notes listings are. The thing that hammered it into my head was having to write them.
Let’s write one together.
Once again, if you didn’t read the article on how fragrances are composed, you should go back and read it now, because we’re going to write a notes listing for the formula I discussed in that article:
Florhydral - 10
Exaltolide Total - 10
Ultrazur - 15
Peonile - 60
Petitgrain oil -70
Ethylene Brassylate - 90
Aurantiol Pure - 100
Geranyl Acetate - 120
Linalyl Acetate - 220
Dihydro Myrcenol - 305
Total: 1000
Take a read over the above formula, which is reflective of commercial fragrance formulas (though not nearly as complex). That notes listing might not seem quite as easy to write as it did a few minutes ago.
Florhydral is an floral/green smelling aldehyde that isn’t really found in nature.
Exaltolide and ethylene brassylate are white musks. As a side note, most people have no idea how white musks actually smell.
Ultrazur is an marine note that’s often used in laundry applications
Peonile is a volumizer that smells sort of like peony, sort of like geranium...sort of like a bunch of stuff even though it’s not found in nature.
Petitgrain is the only ingredient in the whole fragrance for which the average customer is going to have any frame of reference (citrus tree leaves)
Aurantiol smells sort of like orange blossom and sort of like artificial grape flavor.
Geranyl acetate and linalyl acetate are both found in significant quantities is many dozen plants, from herbs to flowers to spices.
Dihydromyrcenol smells fresh and distinctive and like nothing in nature. If the scent if familiar, it’s likely due to laundry detergent.
So how do you reflect all that in a notes listing?
Three different writers might do it in three different ways. Someone more verbose might try to find something to represent all the materials. They might end up with a notes listing that looks like:
Petitgrain, orange blossom, concord grape, white musk, peony, lavender, geranium, aldehydes, green notes, aquatic notes
Based on the descriptions I gave for the ingredients, you can probably see where all of those notes came from, but if you sniffed this cologne accord and read the notes listing, you would likely be puzzled because most of these listed notes would seem to be entirely missing.
It doesn’t actually smell like peonies, or lavender (from the linalyl acetate) or the ocean, or even like the aldehydes that everyone is familiar with due to Chanel No. 5. The petitgrain is there and the orange blossom/grape MIIIGHT be there if you squint your eyes and tilt your nose just right. Even then though, there are other smells in there that don’t really seem like they could come from those listed notes...but if you’re not familiar with every single one of the notes, you might just assume that these smells came from one of the listed notes that you’re not familiar with.
A second person might eliminate all the hard to describe bits and go with the minimalist:
Petitgrain
I realize that most of you haven’t actually smelled this accord (though you can buy it if you’re interested), but petitgrain is actually the most prominent note. Everything else is there to sort of reinforce it.
Personally, if I was writing it, I would list it as:
Petitgrain, orange blossom
The petitgrain is the most prominent note, but the aurantiol gives enough of an orange blossom impression to garner a mention.
If you accept that notes are just an incomplete list of impressions you might get from the fragrance, this is a perfectly good notes listing.
If you think it’s a reflection of actual ingredients, you’re going to have problems because there is no combination of petitgrain and orange blossom that will actually combine to make this smell...or anything close to it even.
The tough call here is with the dihydromyrcenol. It’s almost ⅓ of the fragrance, it’s a potent material and this accord reeks of it, but you can’t reflect it in the notes listing because the people reading the notes listing have no idea what it is or what it smells like.
It’s like trying to come up with a “notes listing” for a photograph of a modern office, but only being allowed to use words that a 5th century roman would know. “desk, “chair” and “person” are all easy, but how do you explain the computer? Without that shared frame of reference, you either have to resort to poor analogies, oversimplification or straight up omission.
That’s what it’s like to write notes listings. The person writing them waffles back and forth and finally comes up with something that’s good enough, but not really quite right. Notes listings are something you call complete because you’re too frustrated and discouraged to continue, not because you nailed it...or maybe that’s just me.
Then it gets published and this work in progress that the perfumer probably really only thinks does a C-/D+ job of describing the fragrance suddenly becomes gospel. True or not, it’s an important tool that non-perfumers use to understand the fragrance. Well dressed, smiling sales associates read the notes out from glossy pamphlets. People who can’t get anywhere to smell the fragrance make buying decisions based upon it. Other people judge the fragrance by how close the fragrance smells to the raw materials in the notes listing, even though it was never actually meant to smell like those raw materials. People decide on favorite ingredients, sometimes without ever having smelled a fragrance containing that ingredient (cough tonka bean cough).
Notes listings get taken way more literally and way more seriously than they were ever supposed to be taken. Just make sure to take them with a grain of salt.
Just wanted to say thanks! Super helpful; I'm a beginner trying to learn what certain "notes" smell like and have been wearing/smelling samples and comparing to the notes listings (LOL) and also fragrantica notes rankings. My goal is to figure what smells I like/don't like so I can figure out what I might want to try next and be able to describe what I like to people for recommendations. I think after reading this I won't focus so much on note listings and more on the crowdsourced fragrantica rankings. Also will try checking ingredient lists for actual chemicals to see if there are any trends!
I think that's probably wise.
The "chemicals" listed in the ingredients are the allergens off a list of 20 some odd allergens that are required to be labeled in the EU. it's still helpful for deconstructing fragrances, but be aware that it's nowhere near a complete list.
Thanks for these posts, they are very interesting to me. I recently ordered a bunch of essential oils to study accords (and accidentally got two petitgrain oils so I now really know what that smells like...). But if I were to get into the synthetics and composition side of the things as a hobbyist, where would I start? Is the Perfumer's Apprentice kit a good starting point, and are there books that are friendly towards beginners and people who haven't taken a chemistry class in about 10 years?
The perfumers apprentice kit is a good place to start, for sure, especially the aromachemicals kit that has a ton of professronal aromachemicals as opposed to pre-mixed accords.
A lot of getting started involves just playing around and becoming familiar with the materials and how they smell and blend
These are really great posts, but part of me doesn't want to peek behind the curtain and ruin the magic. For now I think I want to continue to perceive each fragrances or its facets as pleasant blobs of smell... ignorance really can be bliss!
You may be a wiser person than I. Learning about how fragrances are made has increased my appreciation for them in some ways and decreaed it in others.
Issit because you now that how much of a disservice brands like tom ford are doing to the consumers? (As alluded to in one of your comments) further to this which brands get your thumbs up vs thumbs down? If you don't mind name dropping.
It's not so much that as it is that I automatically start dissecting the fragrance on a technical level.
As far as which brands get my thumbs up and thumbs down. I'm a huge fan of Guerlain, particularly classic Guerlain fragrances. Tom Ford is hit and miss for me. Lots of volume. A few good fragrances (Grey Vetiver for example). I really enjoys Chanel's women's fragrances and a lot of their exclusives line. Chanel pour Monsieur and Egoiste are great but I'm not a huge fan of the rest of their mens line . I like older, classic Diors. I'm not a huge Creed fan. I think they make pleasant, crowd pleaser fragrances but nothing particularly earth shattering. A lot of Jean Claude Ellena's Hermes work is great. There's also a lot of really fantastic work going on in the Indie/Niche space.
Interesting. Do you smell them and think about what you would tweak to make them better?
Not so much that. I just find myself dissecting them and trying to figure out the composition
First I just want to say that both this and your previous post are fantastic pieces and you have thoroughly side tracked my entire day because now I will spend the rest of my morning thinking about this.
What makes this particularly interesting to me is a part of my day to day job is writing program notes for symphonies. Which, I imagine, is fairly similar to the process of writing scent notes for perfumes. Ironically, what you have zeroed in on in this piece is something my colleagues and I spend a good bit of time talking about.
There are three areas we think about when we are doing notes for a symphony: 1) Copy text (a shorthand advertising friendly synopsis of the piece) 2) the program note (the longer piece of writing that goes inside of the program, this pulls from historical anecdotes, relies on theory, and functions like a proper musicological work that requires no background knowledge) and 3) educational value/ audience take away.
I'm curious if you feel like the perfuming industry could benefit from more concerted work in developing the "program note" stage of describing fragrance. There are certainly online resources but the person who casually wants to know more will never really come across them, or will find sources that rely on background knowledge.
At the very least creating a credible pipeline to produce pieces of writing that deconstruct fragrances and build on the notes list and develop it into an exploration of the actual composition of the fragrance would be super cool.
That's an interesting thought. Thank you for bringing up the concept of program notes for symphonies. I was unaware that them, but I can see that there would be some pretty big parallels.
I think that one could certainly write a much more specific, in-dept "program notes-like" description of a fragrance but it wouldn't be terribly readable to the layperson and might actually turn off any layperson who read it due to all the chemical names. One of the unfortunate things about commercral fragrance is that a lot of the basic building blocks have names that make people think of industrial cleaning chemicals, so the program notes might be talking about the interplay of bicyclononalactone and benzyl acetate and how that affects the mellis accord made from an unusual ratio of benzyl salicylate and eugenol.
It's certainly an interesting idea though
Writing notes in a way that makes them accesible is one of the big struggles. You might need to work up a short hand, and every writer has their own unique way of blending technical information, but its definitely do able.
Its really all about communicating the right amount of information to paint an adequate picture.
Plus approaching it this way lets you break free from having to just describe. It lets you explain which can be very enlightening
Thank you for giving me something to think about. I'll have to take a look at some symphony program notes
Absolutely! If you ever want me to read something or pick my brain on how to make something more approachable feel free to shoot me a message
Maybe fragrance houses can use glossy, index card type informative sheets including the prominent aromachemicals and raw materials with a flattering description? Like
Jasmine Sambac Absolute
Okoumal: Diffusive woody-ambery heart note with tobacco facets
Lemonile:Long lasting lemon verbena facet with a piercing freshness
You know what I mean? I could see that working. I'm pretty sure this is not too far off from the copy text given to the fragrance counter workers as a prompt on how to sell the new fragrances.
But I fear that the manufacturers will never actively choose to pull the curtain aside, you know what I mean? It's too easy to keep the illusion of notes alive and it may even dissuade some less knowledgeable consumers to learn that they were a "lie" this whole time. However, I'm always on the side of corporate transparency and consumer education so I hope we see something like that
The tough call here is with the dihydromyrcenol. It’s almost ⅓ of the fragrance, it’s a potent material and this accord reeks of it, but you can’t reflect it in the notes listing because the people reading the notes listing have no idea what it is or what it smells like.
To assign a note is tough. But you described how it smelled in your previous post and a little more here, quite adequately. No notes required. This is the direction I'm taking. Here's a reply from yesterday that touches on this and outlines my approach. Would appreciate your thoughts on it.
Edited to add: These are going on my "add to the WIKI" list. Just need to find a few hours time block.
Your post was an interesting read!
I think that English (and many other languages) aren't really great at expressing smells. They rely on a lot of comparisons. This smells like this. If you don't share a comparison point, it becomes difficult to communicate. Even something like "woody" might evoke very different smells for someone who grew up in India vs. Canada.
I'm personally of the opinion that we're sort of at the point where we either need a better vocabulary for describing smells or more shared points of reference for fragrance ingredients in order to improve our ability to communicate complex smells.
Just my thought
People decide on favorite ingredients, sometimes without ever having smelled a fragrance containing that ingredient (cough tonka bean cough).
I've heard that "tonka" is almost always just coumarin, which, if I'm reading correctly, could actually be interpreted as a note of sweet clover, sweet grass, vanilla grass or cherry blossom.
I think you could probably fake cassia pretty well with a shit ton of cinnamaldehyde and a dash of coumarin.
So basically, it seems this is like wine: somebody smells the end product and describes their impressions, but they are subjective and not at all representative of the actually ingredients? Or are perfumers making shit to suit a marketing brief, and people kinda squint at it and go "oh yeah, you wanted tonka, there's totally a note of tonka" even when it's marginal, and then everyone on Fragrantica pretends the the tonka is discernable so they appear knowledgeable?
Wikipedia
Coumarin is found naturally in many plants, notably in high concentration in the tonka bean (Dipteryx odorata). It also occurs in vanilla grass (Anthoxanthum odoratum), sweet woodruff (Galium odoratum), sweet grass (Hierochloe odorata) and sweet-clover (genus Melilotus), which are named for the sweet (i.e., pleasant) smell of the compound.
Other plants with substantial coumarin content are cassia cinnamon (Cinnamomum cassia; not to be confused with true cinnamon, Cinnamomum verum, or Ceylon cinnamon Cinnamomum zeylanicum which contains little coumarin),[9] deertongue (Dichanthelium clandestinum), mullein (genus Verbascum), and in many cherry blossom tree varieties (of the genus Prunus).[10] Coumarin is also found in extracts of Justicia pectoralis.[11][12] Related compounds are found in some but not all specimens of genus Glycyrrhiza, from which the root and flavour licorice derives.[13]
I've heard that "tonka" is almost always just coumarin,
That's pretty much always been true. I don't believe that actual tonka bean was ever used much in fragrances. Coumarin was the first synthesized material to be used in fragrance back in the early 1880s (Fougere Royale), followed by synthetic vanillin in 1889 (Jicky). My understanding is that the availability of reasonably priced synthetics drove their wide adoption in fragrance and that it wasn't a situation where everyone was using them already and they just became cheaper.
So basically, it seems this is like wine: somebody smells the end product and describes their impressions, but they are subjective and not at all representative of the actually ingredients? Or are perfumers making shit to suit a marketing brief, and people kinda squint at it and go "oh yeah, you wanted tonka, there's totally a note of tonka" even when it's marginal, and then everyone on Fragrantica pretends the the tonka is discernable so they appear knowledgeable?
It's a little of both.
Awesome article, perfectly describes everything. Can I cross post this?
These are excellent, informative write ups. Thank you for taking the time to explain this stuff.
You're very welcome. I'm glad you found it interesting and informative.
Thanks for another informative article. This expalins why perfumes with jasmine notes listed never smell like the jasmine blossom or fragrant jasmine tea to me.
Yep. Because hedione is so widely used, jasmine shows up everywhere in notes listings for fragrances that smell nothing like the blossom.
I’m teaching myself perfumery and I just wish I could subscribe automatically to anything you write! This is very helpful, thank you so much
I'm really glad you found this helpful! Best of luck with your blending.
I wish accords were used more often in fragrance description instead of individual notes.
I'd be interested to hear you expand on that.
I think this is a great idea. I've done it a few times already, but seeing other people wanting it...now I'm going to run with it.
From a marketing standpoint, I think there is a trend going, for example is the recent Amouage Portrayal and before that in Zara fragrances, which list something like 3 notes, one for each stage. That doesn't mean the fragrances are any less complex, just that some executives/marketing people have realized it was dumb to put as many notes as possible on the description.
Another trend is to not shy away from some actual molecules (simplified) names, with Ambrox, hedione, safraleine and Iso E Super sometimes being mentioned.
Absolutely!
The way people are writing notes listings is changing, with a few, famous materials leading the way. As for writing notes listings...if you put in everything it becomes daunting to read, but there's a bigger chance that someone will say "I love that note!" or "that looks interesting!" There are certainly trade-offs and pros and cons for both ways.
Also, thanks for writing this post up. I’ve found myself thoroughly captivated by your posts even if I can’t follow along the science of them ;) and creepily followed you. Sorry if that’s unwelcome. Let me know and I will unfollow :).
No problem. I'm glad you enjoy my writing.
So this is super tangential, but if listing synthetic notes/aromachemicals/etc., does every supplier have their own take on it in synthesizing it in a lab, or do they largely smell identical? Essential oils, depending on extraction process and supplier and a whole host of other things, generally are recognizable as the same scent/fragrance and contain mostly the same compounds in the extraction, but they’re wildly different (but that’s also due to natural factors like soil, location, yield, etc.). I’m wondering if chemically synthesized components all smell identical or if they, like EOs, vary slightly based off (I am not science-minded and don’t have the vocab to be precise here—so “all the chemistry stuff that goes into making it”), and how writing notes about similar-but-not-identical aromachemicals might be similar to or different from writing notes using mostly EO blends (which, I’m sure, is still extremely challenging).
Did that make any sense at all? Lord help me when it comes to talking about anything remotely science-y...
It does! Here are a couple examples:
Hedione from Bedoukian has dank, mushroomy overtones. The Hedione from Firmenich is much better in my opinion. Everyone makes an Iso E Super equivalent and you can often tell the difference between them because their processes lead to different ratios of isomers.
Great read! I used to watch a decent amount of fragrance reviews, but it got too frustrating seeing influential voices in the community who are supposed to be informed about fragrance just parroting fragrantica (or even brand retail copy) notes lists as if they actually smell those notes.
I get that not everyone is interested in reading dozens of aromachemical descriptions and cross referencing them to what they smell, but hopefully people read your posts and posts like them to grasp the concept that even "single" notes are miniature compositions within themselves. Not because I'm an elitist but because there is truly so much beauty in learning how every single thing in this world (even outside of aroma) is actually made up of minute amounts of other things!
Again, thanks for sharing this information in an accessible way for everyone out there to read.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I'm glad you enjoyed the article.
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