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    Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

    Owen Jones 🌹 Retweeted Labour Press Team

    Firstly: antisemitism is real, it's a horrifying menace, and it must be defeated. Labour's own disciplinary procedures are out of date, not fit for purpose and need far reaching reform. That doesn't mean The Sunday Times splash is accurate or fair. It isn't: and that matters.https://twitter.com/labourpress/status/1114844356106706944 …

    Owen Jones 🌹 added,

    Labour Press TeamVerified account @labourpress
    Another seriously misleading Sunday Times story, full of wrong figures, inaccurate claims and complete falsehoods.…
    10:06 AM - 8 Apr 2019
    • 288 Retweets
    • 755 Likes
    • Connor Ward Sonia Joe White Jacqueline Barrett Glynis in Leeds Jon Snelling 🤚🏻 Hamza Nisar Matty 🌹 Paul Gormley
    71 replies 288 retweets 755 likes
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      2. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        The antisemitic comments reported by The Sunday Times are vile, twisted, abhorrent, and anyone holding such views should be regarded by anyone on the left as a bitter political opponent, whose hatred must be defeated. Let's not be in any doubt about that.

        6 replies 22 retweets 202 likes
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      3. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        The impression The Sunday Times splash attempted to foster is that there is a cover-up and a conspiracy at the top of the Labour Party to protect antisemites. Yet this is simply not true.

        4 replies 28 retweets 192 likes
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      4. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        One of the claims centres on Loto (the Leader Of The Opposition's office) intervening in cases. Yet this only happened in the couple of weeks between Labour's general secretary Iain McNicol resigning and Jennie Formby replacing him.

        2 replies 19 retweets 149 likes
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      5. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        What happened in this interregnum is Labour party staff - appointed long before Corbyn became leader - asked for Loto's help to clear the backlog. Loto staff didn't intervene or make decisions, but gave advice when they were asked to do so - i.e. in good faith.

        1 reply 15 retweets 139 likes
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      6. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        When Jennie Formby took over, she ordered this practice to end. Yet we're left in an absurd situation where a disgruntled former staff member asked Loto for assistance, and has now briefed the media against what he himself did. 🤷🏻‍♂️

        1 reply 34 retweets 176 likes
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      7. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        Only staff in Labour's Governance and Legal Unit have the authority to make decisions on cases. So they took the decision to ask Loto for their views of their own accord, yet it's up to them whether they took that advice or not - because they alone have that power.

        1 reply 15 retweets 114 likes
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      8. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        The worst case involves a member leaving online comments such as 'Heil Hitler'. The Sunday Times focuses on the fact that his member has been suspended, but not expelled. Seems reasonable, doesn't it? Such sickening comments should surely mean expulsion on the spot? Does to me!

        19 replies 18 retweets 108 likes
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      9. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        Unfortunately there is no provision in Labour's rule book for automatic expulsions. Only a body called the National Constitutional Committee (NCC) - more on this to follow - has this power. It's an autonomous body independent of the disciplinary team and Labour's leadership.

        1 reply 19 retweets 120 likes
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      10. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        The NCC was established in 1987 under Neil Kinnock's leadership and took away the power of Labour's National Executive Committee to investigate and expel members. The Party brings the cases - think of it as like the Crown Prosecution Service - and NCC is like the court.

        1 reply 17 retweets 102 likes
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      11. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        If the party arbitrarily expelled people without due process - i.e. the right to defend themselves, as, in criminal justice, those accused of the most heinous crimes has the right to - those expelled could take Labour to court and quite possibly win.

        6 replies 21 retweets 115 likes
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      12. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        But the NCC is clearly not fit for purpose a) for a party which has exploded in size and b) for the social media age. Its backlog of cases is inexcusable. Labour need to abolish and replace it. Here's concrete suggestions from @MikeSegalovhttps://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/21/labour-antisemitism-overhaul-policy-discipline-public …

        5 replies 28 retweets 142 likes
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      13. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        My own two cents is that given confidence has self-evidently collapsed in Labour's disciplinary system, it should be outsourced to a streamlined, independent body. I'm told there are data protection issues with this - but something self-evidently has to be done.

        19 replies 17 retweets 115 likes
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      14. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        There has been some reform: e.g. legal counsel appointed, antisemitism panels to process complaints faster etc. But the Labour party really has to do more (not least replacing the NCC with something fit for purpose).

        1 reply 10 retweets 74 likes
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      15. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        One of the Sunday Times' most damning accusations is against Labour party staffer Thomas Gardiner, that he frustrated attempts to fast-track the investigation of a member called two Jewish MPs for being “shit-stirring c** buckets” in the pay of Israel”. (Ugh, sickening comments).

        2 replies 14 retweets 71 likes
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      16. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        I've looked in to this at length: it's just untrue. Gardiner asked why the normal procedure hadn't been followed, why it hadn't been treated as antisemitism by the complaints officer when it self-evidently was. He was arguing it to be fast-tracked: the opposite of what's accused.

        6 replies 21 retweets 118 likes
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      17. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        Look, antisemitism really does exist among a small minority on the left. Some on the left are in denial over that; their denial compounds hurt. Labour's disciplinary procedures are out of date and not fit for purpose: that failure has caused real distress. They must be replaced.

        10 replies 20 retweets 121 likes
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      18. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        That does not mean accusations which represent a real distortion of reality - and which cause real distress amongst Jewish people who are understandably anxious and angry - should be left unchallenged.

        4 replies 19 retweets 144 likes
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      19. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago

        Antisemitic incidents are increasing in British society. Synagogues and Jewish cemeteries are under threat. 1 in 20 Britons deny the Holocaust; 1 in 5 believe less than 2 million Jews died in it. Labour, and the left, has to show more leadership - and defeat antisemitism for good

        59 replies 42 retweets 253 likes
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      20. End of conversation
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      2. Mxv02‏ @Mxv021 5h5 hours ago
        Replying to @OwenJones84

        I agree with most of your point. Although is faith in @UKLabour disaplinary procedure being driven by the inaccurate and contradictory complaints by those who oppose the left? These people are driving the dialogue.

        1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
      3. Owen Jones 🌹‏Verified account @OwenJones84 5h5 hours ago
        Replying to @Mxv021 @UKLabour

        It's to do with the NCC which was established in 1987 and isn't fit for purpose (see thread)

        1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
      4. Mxv02‏ @Mxv021 5h5 hours ago
        Replying to @OwenJones84 @UKLabour

        I'm sure it does need to be improved and updated. Although I'm pretty sure that they have to work within a budget so limited with what they can do. The likes of LAA, CAA & Co flooding the party with context-free complaints won't help.

        0 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
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