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    Soner Cagaptay‏Verified account @SonerCagaptay 3h3 hours ago

    Great cartogram which visualizes the leftist “red wave” that swept opposition CHP to power in Turkey’s largest cities and densely populated coastal areas on Sunday in #TurkeyElections2019 • via Aytac Papalpic.twitter.com/bj1YqwcePw

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      2. James Ryan‏ @jdryan08 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @SonerCagaptay

        Cool graphic but I’m not sure it’s fair to say CHP is leftist or even that the reason it won where it did had anything to do with leftist policy proposals.

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      3. Ziya Meral‏Verified account @Ziya_Meral 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @jdryan08 @SonerCagaptay

        I call CHP centre conservative..

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      4. KaraMurat‏ @FatihinFKM 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @Ziya_Meral @jdryan08 @SonerCagaptay

        No. The base is kemalist the party leadership is new-left, liberal.

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      5. James Ryan‏ @jdryan08 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @FatihinFKM @Ziya_Meral @SonerCagaptay

        If there is one thing I’ve learned in many years studying political ideology in Turkey it’s that unless you are talking extremes (TKP, VP, etc in this instance) speaking of parties on left-right spectrums is a fool’s errand.

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      6. Soner Cagaptay‏Verified account @SonerCagaptay 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @jdryan08 @FatihinFKM @Ziya_Meral

        I would say the CHP is leftist in the Turkish context, just as the AKP can be considered political Islamist along same spectrum. In another country, not only the AKP but the CHP, too, could be viewed as centrist etc., but Turkish context should matter to describe party identity

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      7. James Ryan‏ @jdryan08 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @SonerCagaptay @FatihinFKM @Ziya_Meral

        I understand why you say that but I think in an environment where HDP and TKP are winning elections I don’t know how much utility that descriptor really affords us. I think it’s more helpful to define the parties in the middle as varieties of corporatism.

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      8. James Ryan‏ @jdryan08 3h3 hours ago
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        Because at the end of the day, Kemalism and AKP style political Islam boil down to cementing the dominance of a particular type of subject over another that doesn’t necessarily cut cleanly along class lines.

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      9. Soner Cagaptay‏Verified account @SonerCagaptay 2h2 hours ago
        Replying to @jdryan08 @FatihinFKM @Ziya_Meral

        That’s a great point! Since 1990s, CHP has basically morphed into a middle/upper middle class party (plus poor -and I don’t just mean oppressed - Alevis) versus the AKP that has emerged as the party of the working and lower middle classes (also including outlier constituencies)

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      1. Yahya‏ @Yaya__1 36m36 minutes ago
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        It’s a terrible illustration which distorts facts. Istanbul’s result is not certain, there is 20K difference out of 8,6 million between AKP/MHP-CHP/IP/HDP.Btw, it does not represent AKP’s and CHP’s votes but their alliances. For ex, AKP’s votes are higher than CHP’s in Istanbul.pic.twitter.com/F1hFttHcTZ

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      1. Altan Büyükyılmaz‏ @altanb 2h2 hours ago
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        Very good visualization. Thanks Aytac

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      2. Pat Yale‏ @patyale 3h3 hours ago
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        But can't get away from the fact that the vast sprawl of interior Anatolia is still strongly AKP. The basic pattern has always been CHP in cities/periphery - &, let's face it, the #Istanbul vote was still very close.

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      1. Yahya‏ @Yaya__1 24m24 minutes ago
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        It’s a terrble illustration which distorts facts. Istanbul’s result is not certain, there is 20K difference out of 8,6 million between AKP/MHP-CHP/IP/HDP.Btw, it doesn’t represent AKP’s and CHP’s votes but their alliances’ votes.For ex, AKP’s votes are higher than CHP in Istanbulpic.twitter.com/C6QQSxyy1v

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      1. Yasir Zaidan‏ @YasirZaidan91 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @SonerCagaptay

        Very interesting development. Can’t wait for your next PF to know more!

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      1. Tunç Ali Kütükçüoglu (EN)‏ @tuncalik 5m5 minutes ago
        Replying to @SonerCagaptay

        Certainly a positive development, much better than islamo-fascist neoliberalism, but it is too early to call it leftist; In the 21. century you can't be a leftist without ecological literacy, which critically questions the dogmas of mainstream (neoclassical) economics. #turkey

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      1. Mahmut Dolar Zengini #Mansur‏ @the_turkish_spy 32m32 minutes ago
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        I wouldn't call it a leftist wave since CHP's biggest successes came with 1)ex-MHP guy and 2)an atypical CHP candt. Moreover, İYİP voters seem to carve out CHP more than it did for MHP. Lastly, the visualiz'n doesnt reflect popular vote properly, instead over-emphasizes majority.

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      1. Bulent Erata‏ @BulentErata 35m35 minutes ago
        Replying to @SonerCagaptay @abdullahawez

        Is there any version of this map considers the number of the votes? ıt will give you much more infos to compare!

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      1. Neslihan  🇹🇷‏ @KbklNslhn 41m41 minutes ago
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        Great at misrepresenting data?Nearly half of those largest cities voted for Akp-Mhp coalition.

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      1. Alssfah‏ @AlssfahK 2h2 hours ago
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        But what it doesn't show that akp still won most of the districts in both Istanbul and Ankara even if they lost the mayor position in both of these cities

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      1. ertugrul‏ @tugrulerE 3h3 hours ago
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        Great cartogram (based on valid votes not the population, I assume/hope). but we need an additional map which shows the district level. then we can see the exact picture.

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