So initially, this makes a lot of sense to me, Wikipedia is a brand a lot of people recognise, even in places where we, desiring to be a global community, don't have a strong presence.
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One of the challenges, and something that causes people genuine confusion, is explaining Wikimedia/Wikipedia. It's not complex, but it is another slight hurdle in terms of comprehension, in terms of getting to the point.
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I give this explanation on a regular basis, the main thing being that even after you've explained it, people don't really care what Wikimedia is, they care what it *does*, and what it *does* is... Wikipedia
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But here we come to the problems. One being that relabelling
#Wikimedia organisations as#Wikipedia organisations is somewhat disingenuous. Wikimedia UK for example, cannot, and does not represent all British Wikipedians (though of course we offer support so please ask).Show this thread -
It's true in the sense that a lot of our work is geared towards expanding Wikipedias, English and Welsh primarily, but we are not the Wikipedia project in itself.
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The other problem is our movement's strategy, and our expressed goal of
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Our solution there for people to collect (and share if they want) *could* be other platforms, projects and a wider, different community, perhaps joining up with
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As an example of how we use the words,
@wikimediauk has made a specific choice to run "Wikimedians in Residence" not "Wikipedians in Residence". We felt it allowed for wider scope, and helped us get away from the "someone who writes Wikipedia articles for you" idea about it.Show this thread -
and with a wider array of projects they were working on during their residencies, such as
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but this is our local perspective, and mileage may vary. An organisation doing outreach somewhere else in the world might really find it easier with a clearer, simpler brand to use, and I will be very interested to hear other's viewpoints.
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Lastly, and this is a big one, there are already tensions between some affiliates and some Wikipedia communities. Most of these aren't huge problems and all communities have disagreements. But a change could exacerbate these, if it was felt one group was claiming another's work.
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A little bit lost here, this renaming is being discussed somewhere?
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various places as I understand it, Meta and Facebook too, I don't have the links to share though..
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I agree. A shame about the time and energy this discussion will cost.
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I used to be against changing the name to Wikipedia Foundation but yeah, just do it.
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