Why you shouldnt do buisness with inkedfur:    

By Shariea, 2 weeks ago
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This is a thread about why you shouldnt do business with inkedfur how they have stolen and withhold funds from artists (in my opinion) and based on the facts I have. I have requested sales figures, and am still waiting. But I am getting ahead of myself, buckle up.

If you purchased the kb_log artbook from inkedfur or you were an artist that worked with them, Listen up. If you are a fan of any of the artists who worked hard on that book. Listen up. This is a thread of my opinions and experiences worked with Inked fur.

I am one voice out of 47 that worked on that book. I also did additional artwork as a promo print for the deluxe bundle of the book sales. We received 7.30 from those sale. TLDR We didnt get paid, we were promised different numbers at different times and none of it adds up. Bad math, bad business. Inkedfur, In my opinion, doesnt care about artists. They use you to make money and then cut you lose, and hope you dont look to close at what you recieved.

Let me start at the beginning. I would also like to note that while Kei is also the lead artist on this book, they also work at inkedfur.

Here are some important bits of the FAQ we were all given to review. The Timetable and payment. https://imgur.com/7yUf3P9 https://imgur.com/CnBgEi4

Later on we got an email with a breakdown of how the profits would work:
Profits:
https://imgur.com/XO0WBGC

March 12th we get an email explaining there was a print delay and requesting info for payments.
https://imgur.com/CjxG4Z9

March 18tth we have a break down of sales and book orders. Though now there is the mention of the costs for the artists books, that we are getting for free for doing the artwork. Fair, books still need printed.
https://imgur.com/tZbc9eT

May 24th: We are in the black! First profits to be paid out will be soon. 606.90 total profits as of may 2018 to be paid in royalties! 12.91! This was less than I thought it would be, but the email states we -STILL- had books for sale at that point, and the pdf sales had not yet happened.
https://imgur.com/1j7dE10

June 20th
I admit this was a bit of a slap in the face, it was a bit less than I was expecting given the email and I personally took the tone of the note poorly.
https://imgur.com/El6YfrA

June 29th
PDF is finally up! Apparently, the delay was because the new website they were working on didnt have support for digital products yet. So, it has been hosted on the OLD website, and we have links to it to post to.

https://imgur.com/8MnLQzU https://imgur.com/5zigF7h

And that was it. That was the last we ever heard on the matter, and the last payment anyone ever got. I confirmed this with several artists, I was a bit worried because I had -left- inkedfur (as no longer allowing them to sell my work) and I thought perhaps my royalties had been lost in the system somewhere. But turns out, no one else had gotten paid either.

OCT 25th
Between this when I left Inkedfur, I had trouble getting my final payment. I was due money at the time, and I took a screen shot to be sure. And sure enough, had I not had that screenshot I doubt I would have been paid, because when they removed my account it vanished too. Interestingly enough, he mentioned that I have sales from a recent furmeet that mysteriously were tracked differently. This mention is the only proof I have of said sales, as I was never paid.
https://imgur.com/gYaHAN3

At the time I left, Not including the furmet sales James mentioned in the email, I was due 32.10 I was paid 32.00 even, and no payment from the furmeet ever happened
https://imgur.com/Ynzlr32 https://imgur.com/kJsFpzZ

That brings us to Feb 2019. I contacted Kei after hearing back that no one else was being paid or getting royalties from the knottyboys book. Oddly Kei said that two payments of royalties were made and they had sold out of all the books. And that only 4 sales of the PDF were done. Checking the website, the Book is for sale.. which is now sold out, but the pdf is not.

https://imgur.com/22CZ5e5 https://imgur.com/n1eR1Ll

I was directed to contact inkedfur directly. And I did so on Feb 22nd. Knowing they were at a con and figured by the way Kei responded they knew I, and possibly other concerned artists would be getting in touch, i waited.
https://imgur.com/1WqUXVG

That brings us to today, 9 days later. And this is the responce, and our exchange.
https://imgur.com/D4U1lmc https://1drv.ms/u/s!As3pUy5MCJSahc0ZPWLzK2skEHaszA <- higher rez

This may seem like nickles and dimes to you, but this is a business. They are tracking sales of artists and paying them royalties. Many artists depend on this income to live, and any sale is helpful. Inkedfurs poor business practices are keeping money from the artists you are trying to support. I have not been given the sales numbers, and from the sounds of it, Im not sure anyone really knows how much we are owed. But I can tell you, I havent been paid, and neither have some of your favorite artists.

Do not to business with them

Edit: More stuff has been coming to light, so I have been adding more things. All this and more is all being kept here so I only have to update one place. More artists coming forward, inkedfur's responces from the owner as well as their twitter. Numbers not matching up.

https://1drv.ms/w/s!As3pUy5MCJSahc0YJWQJTxtQxzZrlQ
22 comments

User replies

  maverickhunterdboy

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
Thanks for the warning.
  tyvulpine

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
Call out journals aren’t allowed on FA. This is better for Artist Beware on LiveJournal.
  shariea

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
This is not a call out, this is a business that operates within the fandom and I am showing proof of my workings with that company.
  tyvulpine

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
Your link goes directly to an FA user, and your title specifically says "why you shouldn't do business" with them. Thus it is a call-out journal.
  shariea

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
A profile for the -business- yes. A mod is welcome to make the call here as if this is okay or not. I feel it is fine since it is a business many artists from here and customers work with. If you feel strongly you're welcome to report the post so someone can look it over.
  enkaixiomasa

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
Oh boy, I do love backseat moderators.
  corset

#link     Posted: a week ago

 
There the best on this site if you actual read the no call out rule it does actual state personal account it says nothing about a business account also this really doe into seem like a call out and more like talking about a shady business service
  lilythekitsune

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
Let the admins decide if it is or isn't; what Shariea is posting is a warning as well as evidence of their business, therefore not a call-out
  pudgy-mutt

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
Its not a call out since its a business account, and not a personal account. any way, thats up for the mods to decide ;)
  karmaisabitch

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
Always, always get things in writing. Create contracts, read it over. Things go south, lawyer up.
  sherrimayim

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
So that breaks down to what... 40$ for two.. or three pieces of art? That's really unfortunate. I'm sorry it landed that way :<
  bourbon.

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
I stayed away from InkedFur because of who the founder is and his criminal history involving children.
  corset

#link     Posted: a week ago

 
WAIT WHAT who is the founder and what history ?
  bourbon.

#link     Posted: a week ago

 
I can't out his name here, but you can find it easily. He was convicted of attempting to prey sexually on a child.
  corset

#link     Posted: 3 days ago

 
could always pm me it
  leongon

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
Do this outside of FA and leave a link to it, they have a rule against calling out other "users".

Better be safe. Well, unless you are friends with admins, I don't know.
  leongon

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
https://artistsbeware.info/
https://twitter.com/Artists_Beware

Of course it's just a suggestion, you do what you want, and thanks for the warning on these scammers.
  corset

#link     Posted: a week ago

 
its a business account so not a call out for a personal account the rule only covers calling out others personal accounts not a business account
  trynith

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
they seem to have an incredibly archaic system, and between that and the site migration, they may aswell have given all you artists the finger.

  trynith

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
also a sellout of all books (minus them sending out 46 to artists) only netted ~$340 in profit for artists? nah. no chance.
  trynith

#link     Posted: 2 weeks ago

 
and one final comment, those support replies are terrible! i work in (tech) Customer support and if i replied like that id be looking for a new job!
  sidnithefox

#link     Posted: 12 days ago

 
Big thank you for the warning, I was just planning on trying to do business with them!