Good: They are transparent about how they came to their conclusion and what tools they used. Else this thread would have ended like the last one. The false core claim: 23%-47% of mentions of anti copyright directive campaign hashtag mentions came from the US. /2
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Biggest mistake: They presented location data by
@Talkwalker without questioning it. The used the full version, but the free version is enough to prove my point that the location data is not trustworthy. Let's look at#SaveYourInternet as an example. 63k mentions in 7 days. /3pic.twitter.com/z5iBlsIoCxShow this thread -
For the last 7 days only 10% of the mentions (this can be Tweets, blogposts and similar stuff; but most of it are Tweets) are from US accounts. The authors claim that most of the manipulation happened in June 2018, so I trust them that those numbers are true. /4pic.twitter.com/9iLA8qdeE8
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By clicking on the US, we can see the most popular mentions by that country. First 14 results are Tweets by
@Senficon. Member of the European parliament. Very influential, but definitely not an US account. There is clearly a problem with the data. /5pic.twitter.com/86d4fEorgiShow this thread -
But the authors don't only claim, that US accounts took part in the discussion, but specifically point out that the majority of the US mentions came from Washington D.C.. In talkwalker it's possible to limit the search to a region. I choose Washington D.C.. /6pic.twitter.com/bK2NIaqwF3
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Once I limited the results to D.C., I switched to the Influencer tab.
@Senficon MEP@creativecommons US? not DC@communia_eu Not DC@YourMarkLubbers Unlikely@createrefresh Nope@fyeg Young European Greens@edri No@bitchute No@yanatoom MEP@EuropeanPirates Nope /7pic.twitter.com/Wuapo8o7goShow this thread -
Maybe it's broken. What happens when I choose Vienna. Looks okay. Several entries from Austrian accounts. Let's check Berlin. What is
@Senficon doing here? I thought she was from Washington D.C.. Her German Tweets are shown. I don't fully understand how it works. /8pic.twitter.com/DVeUfQU74pShow this thread -
Where are those Washington D.C. Tweets that had such an impact? In the document are examples of other Tweets, but I didn't see any that supposedly cam from D.C.. /9
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Smaller mistake: Selection of hashtags. They looked at the following ones:
#censorshipmachines#saveyourinternet#linktax#stopacta2#savetheinternet#art13 But those aren't the most popular hashtags. At least not recently. /10Show this thread -
I looked at over 400k Tweets. Most popular hashtags:
#artikel13,#uploadfilter, and#saveyourinternet. The ones in the document may have been more popular last year though. /11https://mobile.twitter.com/luca/status/1100409892488134657 …Show this thread -
There definitely have been US accounts using those hashtags. The same way Europeans use hashtags when talking about US politics. The internet has no borders (only firewalls) and people talk with each other globally. That's not proof of „meddeling“. /12
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Clarifications: - The document was created by two authors. - I decided to not name them because the document isn't publicly available yet. - They are not associated with the EU. - They are not associated with Talkwalker. - They are part of a German lobby-group.
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I am still trying to full understand the Talkwalker stats. I entered the first Tweet of this thread to be able to compare the data. They even display demographics, but I didn't find an explanation how they determine it. (I assume based on bio.)pic.twitter.com/yU8bbIxNep
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It seems like they count Retweets and Quote-Tweets, but don't display them. Which is understandable for Retweets, but not Quote-Tweets. Maybe Quote-Tweets aren't included. Then the numbers are even more off.
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Clicking on a country shows an empty results box. With the exception of Germany, where my Tweet is displayed. With the exception of Germany all countries either have mention count of exactly 10 or 20, which is another indicator that the data isn't reliable.pic.twitter.com/dVPMjVKQfY
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@HerkkoHietanen is categorized as a lawyer. Probably because he has the word 'lawyer' in his profile.@V_Arakawa is categorized as a parent. Probably because she has the word 'daughter' in her profile. As a human I question that categorization.pic.twitter.com/SoCVkx1cr6Show this thread End of conversation
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Hi, thanks for your work in this matter!
Is there information available about who the authors are and is it possible to read that document? Is it publicly available somewhere?
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As far as I know it's not publicly available yet. That's why I choose to not name the authors. But they announced that they will publish something. If they do so, I am going to add that info.
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If they can not analyze basic data, how can they create an efficient internet filter?
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they won't
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