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Architect, satirist, and extremely bad cartoonist. Director of the Institute of Internet Diagrams. Mostly Middle East stuff. 🇱🇧🇮🇶🇬🇧

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    Karl Sharro‏Verified account @KarlreMarks 7h7 hours ago

    How long each caliphate lastedpic.twitter.com/OGGBr3l1nz

    11:39 PM - 17 Feb 2019
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      1. Karl Sharro‏Verified account @KarlreMarks 5h5 hours ago

        Karl Sharro Retweeted Ahmad

        It's as if that's the jokehttps://twitter.com/ahmadmerie/status/1097427090708856832 …

        Karl Sharro added,

        Ahmad @ahmadmerie
        Replying to @KarlreMarks
        Islamic state is not caliphate, you cant compare it to the other eras
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      2. Vae Victis!‏ @Shachtmanite 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @KarlreMarks

        Why oh why does everyone forget the poor Fatimids?

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      3. Karl Sharro‏Verified account @KarlreMarks 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @Shachtmanite

        It's a Mamluk conspiracy

        1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
      4. Vae Victis!‏ @Shachtmanite 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @KarlreMarks

        And were you counting the puppet Abbasids in exile under the Mamluks or did you go for 1258 as their terminus point?

        0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Mucho Librë  🃏‏ @Thouba_ 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @KarlreMarks

        The Abbasids reigned longer than the Ottomans? I never knew that.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Karl Sharro‏Verified account @KarlreMarks 4h4 hours ago
        Replying to @Thouba_

        750-1258 versus 1517-1924

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Torsten Wollina‏ @DrWorsTen 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @KarlreMarks @Thouba_

        Depends on where you look. For Iraq the dates are correct, for Egypt i beg to differ. Also, the Umayyads remained caliphs in Spain for much longer. And the Ottomans only emphasized their caliphate rather late. Maybe 19th century.

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      2. Seth Frantzman‏Verified account @sfrantzman 6h6 hours ago
        Replying to @KarlreMarks @GeromanAT

        If we graphed this according to the suffering caused by each it might be a bit different. ISIS systematically murdered more people in just a few months in 2014 than I suppose more of the other "caliphates" did in years or decades or ever. Also cultural ruin under ISIS was awful.

        2 replies 2 retweets 10 likes
      3. - GEROMAN -  🇦🇹 -  🇸🇾 -‏ @GeromanAT 2h2 hours ago
        Replying to @sfrantzman @KarlreMarks

        I wouldn't even call that fake a Caliphate... It was a terrorist organistion using a religious pretext. (And supported by "Western Countries" as well)

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Ruwan Al-Rejoleh رُوان الرجولة‏ @rrujouleh 2h2 hours ago
        Replying to @GeromanAT @sfrantzman @KarlreMarks

        The drawing is factually inaccurate. The ottoman ruled more the Abasyeen :)http://www.topsarabia.com/%D8%A7%D8%B7%D9%88%D9%84-10-%D8%B3%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%AE-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D9%86/ …

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      5. Karl Sharro‏Verified account @KarlreMarks 1h1 hour ago
        Replying to @rrujouleh @GeromanAT @sfrantzman

        But not as a caliphate, which is what the graph is showing.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      1. Anna Trechsel‏ @AnnaTrechsel 7h7 hours ago
        Replying to @KarlreMarks

        I think you should put that dot under the line.

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      2. Basharat Issa‏ @BasharatIssa 6h6 hours ago
        Replying to @KarlreMarks @aimaMK

        You missed Fatimid

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Angomaitë‏ @Angomaite 6h6 hours ago
        Replying to @BasharatIssa @KarlreMarks @aimaMK

        Their legitimacy is heavily disputed by majority, i would say :) Although fatimid state was no doubt fascinating.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Basharat Issa‏ @BasharatIssa 6h6 hours ago
        Replying to @Angomaite @KarlreMarks @aimaMK

        That's what I think all the caliphates were about, Legitimacy, proving and disputing it. Each with its unique attempts of maintaining and proving their legitimacy.

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      2. AMER NAJJAR !!!‏ @amerhnajjar 7h7 hours ago
        Replying to @KarlreMarks

        Hey Karl, this chart is “technically” wrong as the so-called I.S. Does not, neither in concept not in principle, qualify as a caliphate ☺️

        1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
      3. Critical seasoning‏ @joejn80 6h6 hours ago
        Replying to @amerhnajjar @KarlreMarks

        Why not?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. AMER NAJJAR !!!‏ @amerhnajjar 6h6 hours ago
        Replying to @joejn80 @KarlreMarks

        Are you currently “ruled” by I.S. ?

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      2. Ijlal Ahmad Haqqani‏ @ijhaqqani 6h6 hours ago
        Replying to @KarlreMarks

        Wait how is Ottoman's bar shorter than Abbasid's.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Angomaitë‏ @Angomaite 6h6 hours ago
        Replying to @ijhaqqani @KarlreMarks

        Abbasid lasted from 750 to 1258 or (as a puppet) to 1517. Ottoman: 1517 to 1920.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Ijlal Ahmad Haqqani‏ @ijhaqqani 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @Angomaite @KarlreMarks

        I dont think so. Ottoman was at the end of the 13th century. 1299 i think. And didnt Abbasid just end after Hulagu Khan's carnage?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Angomaitë‏ @Angomaite 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @ijhaqqani @KarlreMarks

        Yes but Ottomans seized tittle of Khilafah from Mamluks after capturing Cairo in 1517. Also branch of Abbasids survived fall of Baghdad and found refuge in mamluk Cairo where they were Caliphs till Ottomans seized the title.

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      6. Ijlal Ahmad Haqqani‏ @ijhaqqani 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @Angomaite @KarlreMarks

        Ah. I didnt know that

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. Angomaitë‏ @Angomaite 3h3 hours ago
        Replying to @ijhaqqani @KarlreMarks

        Happy to help :)

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