As a feminist, I've always assumed that by fighting to emancipate women I was building a better world – more egalitarian, just and free. But lately I've begun to worry that ideals pioneered by feminists are serving quite different ends. I worry, specifically, that our critique of sexism is now supplying the justification for new forms of inequality and exploitation.
In a cruel twist of fate, I fear that the movement for women's liberation has become entangled in a dangerous liaison with neoliberal efforts to build a free-market society. That would explain how it came to pass that feminist ideas that once formed part of a radical worldview are increasingly expressed in individualist terms. Where feminists once criticised a society that promoted careerism, they now advise women to "lean in". A movement that once prioritised social solidarity now celebrates female entrepreneurs. A perspective that once valorised "care" and interdependence now encourages individual advancement and meritocracy.
What lies behind this shift is a sea-change in the character of capitalism. The state-managed capitalism of the postwar era has given way to a new form of capitalism – "disorganised", globalising, neoliberal. Second-wave feminism emerged as a critique of the first but has become the handmaiden of the second.
With the benefit of hindsight, we can now see that the movement for women's liberation pointed simultaneously to two different possible futures. In a first scenario, it prefigured a world in which gender emancipation went hand in hand with participatory democracy and social solidarity; in a second, it promised a new form of liberalism, able to grant women as well as men the goods of individual autonomy, increased choice, and meritocratic advancement. Second-wave feminism was in this sense ambivalent. Compatible with either of two different visions of society, it was susceptible to two different historical elaborations.
As I see it, feminism's ambivalence has been resolved in recent years in favour of the second, liberal-individualist scenario – but not because we were passive victims of neoliberal seductions. On the contrary, we ourselves contributed three important ideas to this development.
One contribution was our critique of the "family wage": the ideal of a male breadwinner-female homemaker family that was central to state-organised capitalism. Feminist criticism of that ideal now serves to legitimate "flexible capitalism". After all, this form of capitalism relies heavily on women's waged labour, especially low-waged work in service and manufacturing, performed not only by young single women but also by married women and women with children; not by only racialised women, but by women of virtually all nationalities and ethnicities. As women have poured into labour markets around the globe, state-organised capitalism's ideal of the family wage is being replaced by the newer, more modern norm – apparently sanctioned by feminism – of the two-earner family.
Never mind that the reality that underlies the new ideal is depressed wage levels, decreased job security, declining living standards, a steep rise in the number of hours worked for wages per household, exacerbation of the double shift – now often a triple or quadruple shift – and a rise in poverty, increasingly concentrated in female-headed households. Neoliberalism turns a sow's ear into a silk purse by elaborating a narrative of female empowerment. Invoking the feminist critique of the family wage to justify exploitation, it harnesses the dream of women's emancipation to the engine of capital accumulation.
Feminism has also made a second contribution to the neoliberal ethos. In the era of state-organised capitalism, we rightly criticised a constricted political vision that was so intently focused on class inequality that it could not see such "non-economic" injustices as domestic violence, sexual assault and reproductive oppression. Rejecting "economism" and politicising "the personal", feminists broadened the political agenda to challenge status hierarchies premised on cultural constructions of gender difference. The result should have been to expand the struggle for justice to encompass both culture and economics. But the actual result was a one-sided focus on "gender identity" at the expense of bread and butter issues. Worse still, the feminist turn to identity politics dovetailed all too neatly with a rising neoliberalism that wanted nothing more than to repress all memory of social equality. In effect, we absolutised the critique of cultural sexism at precisely the moment when circumstances required redoubled attention to the critique of political economy.
Finally, feminism contributed a third idea to neoliberalism: the critique of welfare-state paternalism. Undeniably progressive in the era of state-organised capitalism, that critique has since converged with neoliberalism's war on "the nanny state" and its more recent cynical embrace of NGOs. A telling example is "microcredit", the programme of small bank loans to poor women in the global south. Cast as an empowering, bottom-up alternative to the top-down, bureaucratic red tape of state projects, microcredit is touted as the feminist antidote for women's poverty and subjection. What has been missed, however, is a disturbing coincidence: microcredit has burgeoned just as states have abandoned macro-structural efforts to fight poverty, efforts that small-scale lending cannot possibly replace. In this case too, then, a feminist idea has been recuperated by neoliberalism. A perspective aimed originally at democratising state power in order to empower citizens is now used to legitimise marketisation and state retrenchment.
In all these cases, feminism's ambivalence has been resolved in favour of (neo)liberal individualism. But the other, solidaristic scenario may still be alive. The current crisis affords the chance to pick up its thread once more, reconnecting the dream of women's liberation with the vision of a solidary society. To that end, feminists need to break off our dangerous liaison with neoliberalism and reclaim our three "contributions" for our own ends.
First, we might break the spurious link between our critique of the family wage and flexible capitalism by militating for a form of life that de-centres waged work and valorises unwaged activities, including – but not only – carework. Second, we might disrupt the passage from our critique of economism to identity politics by integrating the struggle to transform a status order premised on masculinist cultural values with the struggle for economic justice. Finally, we might sever the bogus bond between our critique of bureaucracy and free-market fundamentalism by reclaiming the mantle of participatory democracy as a means of strengthening the public powers needed to constrain capital for the sake of justice.
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Good article. It goes back to the old tension between identity and difference and how to resolve them. How can we promote solidarity (of class, gender or whatever) while recognising individual and group differences? The point that neo-liberalism ruthlessly adopts and subverts its critiques has been made before but is worth repeating as it goes to the heart of how we can imagine a different non-neo-liberal future that does not immediately become a…
Excellent article. And definitely needed in the Grauniad, where most contributors who describe themselves as 'feminists' are anti-porn activists who want us all to 'check yer privlidge'.
Feminism rightly fought for equality. It was knowingly fighting for equality in a system that has been around longer than even the suffragettes.
It has rightly fought against glass ceilings for women with similar abilities to men.
It has rightly fought for equal opportunities for women in respect to wages and the ability to lose the 'traditional' expectations of women's work.
All this within a system that has remained in place for over a hundred years.
And now the author believes that this has assisted the same system - hold the front page!
This is the point,isn't it?
Equal participation in capitalism.
Would it have been a victory for New feminism if women had had equal participation in Nazism?
Or equal participation in Apartheid?
And then there's the question of who is the woman. If the woman is Condoleezza Rice, or Margaret Thatcher, run for the hills.
Southern forms of feminism, of which there are many strands, all have a very different take on global politics.
Some good points but my gut tells me the author hankers after what I'd regard as the bad old days of the late 1970's. Where any form of political, emancipatory or intellectual dissent always had to labour within and beneath a marxist critique.
I lived through that period. And it was shit. The idea was that once we had a Marxism in place, all would be well. It was an argument akin to religious fundamentalism, it was supposed to provide the answers to every problem including all racial and sexual discrimination. I remember it as an extremely unimaginative and restrictive prison.
I love the condescending start, before we begin to listen to what your "gut" tells you.
Ah! The comedy of CIF.
Think I would rather have Marxism than the growing gap between rich and poor. You obviously don't have to use a food bank or pay the bedroom tax. Or maybe you've bought Royal Mail shares...
Eh?
There are a number of reasons for wage depression. The influx of women into the workplace has been going on for decades, so I'm not sure you can put that one down as a major cause - sure, women flooded the labour market, but their number was sustainable.
The second point is confusing. If your cause is feminism then you are fighting for equality for your gender. That means you might have the same rubbish inequalities that a lot of men have in terms of society and class, but, hey that's another fight which should be conducted by all members of society, regardless of gender.
And so on.
Some of feminism's ideals and goals might be viewed as neo-liberal, just as some of them may be viewed as socialist. I get the feeling that you're not seeing the wood from the trees here - the goal of feminism must be emancipation, and only emancipation, because once that has been achieved the other social injustices you mention become much easier to address.
What you say is true, but a number of correct adjustments to society have taken place since women were called upon during WW1 and WW2.
Firstly they can own property, they can borrow independently of their partner or husband, they can have a career, without quitting the moment they become pregnant ... at least all this in theory.
I believe women were most free in the early to mid 1980's, but since then, their contribution to family life and the houshold expenses, and the cost of buying a home has become a matter of necessity rather than choice.
In essence, womens libe has been traded for a consumerist lifestyle, wrapped up with a mortgage debt and a credit card.
They have been as financially liberated and trapped as any man.
Oh I agree.
I think some feminists are only now experiencing the horror of what emancipation really means though.
Of course, it's still better than being subservient to a patriarchy, but a cakewalk it isn't.
It wasnt sustainable, wages were going up generaly from the end of the great depression in real terms after a few decsdes of depression due to soaking up the mass unemployment. Supply and demand really, when demand exceeded you had investment in hardware productivity and a corresponding increase in wages for more complex work.
With women entering the work force you double the pool of workers, and henxe have more competition which lowers wages. See the stagnation since the 70s/80s. Large businesses back immigration for the same reason, large pools of labour that keeps wages lower than they would be.
Cheap labour is a community like any other resource, that will be consumed till no longer cost competitive.
Thought provoking article. Unfortunately all the provoked thoughts were completely opacified by the muddled pseudoneologisms in the writing:
valorises, legitimate, racialised, democratising, economism, absolutised, solidaristic, masculinist
Ambiguous words are a poor disguise for unclear thought
I agree…
It seems she’s saying that the paradigmatic specificity of capitalism appropriates the feminist discourse disempowering its liberationist matrix into in a fetishized and commodified expression of an a-patriarchal combobulation of identity that obfuscates the elemental and authentic desire for an equalisation commensurate with the ideologically neutralisation of femininity that eludes the rapacious clutches of ismification sold at Tescos… etc… etc…
er, and 'opacified' and 'muddled pseudoneologisms'? I'd say that's a pretty pretentious disguise for unclear thought
'If you can't say it clearly, you don't understand it yourself'
John Searle
This is a very thoughtful interesting article.
Surely, if you are fighting for equal rights for women you are fighting for a better society, not just equal rights for woman - for your gang.
There should be no reason why someone is discriminated against based on gender, race, sexuality, disability etc.
You can't disagree with that simply because a job in question (which is perfectly legal) is not to your preference.
Surely, if you are fighting for equal rights for women you are fighting for a better society, not just equal rights for woman - for your gang.
Feminism does not mean women hating men. What it means is that men cannot have the last word all the time. If there is a choice of protecting the family and rights of women, it is the woman's happiness that should count. It is true capitalist societies have used women in half naked ads, but that has nothing to do with feminism, although it helps pretty women to earn a lot of money.
If there is a choice of protecting the family and rights of women, it is the woman's happiness that should count.
Why should women's happiness count any more than men's?
Why should women's happiness count any more than men's?
I did not say that. What I say is that women should not put up with brutal or bad husbands because they must stay with him because of children and family related responsibilities. Men don't do that either.
Yep - it's nothing to do with 'happiness' anyway
Amazing! Leading philosopher notices something that was said repeatedly by sociologists and political scientists 30 years ago.
Do you seriously imagine that feminism has had any impact on changes in economic philosophy and practice? That what is happening has been 'sanctioned by feminism'? You are deluded I'm afraid, but therefore shouldn't be so hard on yourself. Feminism has had very little impact, which should make you feel you are on the side of the good and the just.
Help me out here - I'm lousy at numbers and struggle with the complexities of economics.
If I play the devil's advocate for a moment - the mere fact that, increasingly since the introduction of laws enforcing emancipation and equal rights, available jobs, including those requiring a high level of education/training previously inaccessible to women, are competed for by both males and females, and for equal wages, would mean that for several decades now there's maybe double (very approximately) the number of candidates per job in a shrinking job market. How can that not have had the knock-on effect of changing the profile and dynamics of the traditional family unit and of the economics of that unit? And surely that will have had a direct effect on wages? I'd have thought that the greater the number of potential candidates for jobs, the greater the opportunity to lower the wages offered.
Like I said, just playing the devil's advocate, in an attempt to understand.
Which, of course, doesn't invalidate this observation. Sorry - your point on this was...?
You mean apart from equal pay legislation, maternity pay, and indeed, the development of economic theories that take us beyond the fatuous, miserable little individuated model of the self, and the fatuous, miserable, profit-generating model of economic output on which economics has hitherto based its assumptions?
http://www.unpac.ca/economy/index2.html
Sadly, though, you are probably right overall - feminist approaches to political economy have not had the look-in they deserve. And we are all the poorer for it (well, unless you're a highly affluent male CEO, rent-seeker, or some such...)
The same argument could be made for immigration, for people living and working longer as well.
All depends if you believe in the lump of labour fallacy or not.
I agree a very thoughtful and interesting article which needs further attention along with Friday's education article by Grove adviser and todays article about disguised racism. I feel a full time study emerging of neoliberalism. However, I am dismayed by the number of critiques of neoliberalism over the past 6 or 7 years since the crash but despair that very few coherent alternatives are offered.
I think there are plenty of people suggesting coherent alternatives to the failed status quo. However, the winners from the failed status quo control the public space where such discussions should take place, and neither the politicians or the bloated army of pundits and "opinion formers" inhabiting the crass mainstream media are either willing or able to either promote or even comprehend the thought of alternative ways of doing things.
And now, with very little comment from that mainstream media, our MPs have passed the gagging laws that will make it even harder for non-insiders to effect the debate about the direction this country is taking. Proof positive that only the winners are allowed real power, and those winners include the self proclaimed "feminists" whose voices are presumed to speak for the interests of all women, but in reality only speak for themselves and their own privileged experience.
"despair that very few coherent alternatives are offered" - well, the author offers a few.
"by militating for a form of life that de-centres waged work and valorises unwaged activities, including – but not only – carework"
I think I translate that as "stop trashing mums who stay at home". This really is revolutionary - even reactionary - stuff. I love it, but it's unlikely to come to pass. Even David Cameron thinks that the best way to improve women's lives is to keep them at work and just subsidise their childcare.
The funny thing is that among those middle classes who can afford it, and doubtless among the mega-rich too, having a non-working wife (though she may have three degrees or be a qualified GP) is almost a status marker.
Taking that line, the higher the education/former career status of the non-working spouse, the greater the status; "we're so successful that we can afford to forego the six figure salary she could earn, we're so fulfilled that she doesn't need to troll around for more post-doctoral research funding"...
Jesus Christ. Neo-liberal efforts to build a free market society fuck ALL of us over. Why make it a feminist issue. So many articles like this recently.
An aged care crisis - FEMINIST ISSUE!
I know it's the Guardian, but come on.
The elite motto/cliché is divide and rule and you're playing the part very well.
What she's saying IMHO is that female "liberation" didn't produce the perfect society but doubled the number of wage-slaves - the same thesis Sheila Rowbotham put forward (and I critiqued) here in 2008.
You've completely misunderstood the author's intent--it has nothing to do with dividing anyone. Her concern is with the historic accommodation of feminism--which she views as a radical critique of the status quo--to capitalism. The word for this kind of negative development is 'cooptation'--where a challenge to the status quo is folded into the tent by means of a palliative, a reform. These reforms can be more or less significant, but what they never touch is the residual power of the ruling elite to control society. Thus, capitalism cannot fulfill the promise and challenge of uncoopted feminism. Her concern is to clarify and restore the feminist project as one challenging existing power relations. She points out that this cannot be an individual solution; it must address power relations throughout society.
The only "division" here is between the mass of people, sometimes called the 99%, and the small ruling group we call the 1%. Feminism is revolutionary in its intent--to transform power relations and the very nature of power itself, across human societies.
Good article. It goes back to the old tension between identity and difference and how to resolve them. How can we promote solidarity (of class, gender or whatever) while recognising individual and group differences? The point that neo-liberalism ruthlessly adopts and subverts its critiques has been made before but is worth repeating as it goes to the heart of how we can imagine a different non-neo-liberal future that does not immediately become assimilated into the neo-liberal project.
"The point that neo-liberalism ruthlessly adopts and subverts its critiques has been made before but is worth repeating as it goes to the heart of how we can imagine a different non-neo-liberal future that does not immediately become assimilated into the neo-liberal project."
It has to be said that neo-liberalism does not adopt and subvert a socialist critique, which is probably why the playwright, Caryll Churchill, as I understand her, and for example, is a socialist feminist.
What the writer of this blog is identifying is a culture of political-economic naivety and opportunism on the part of the more liberal minded feminists.
Guardian subs must all have done Cultural Studies if they can understand that post to make it a pick.
"neo-liberalism ruthlessly adopts and subverts its critiques"
Ah - I think what you mean is that the brilliantly successful 60s cultural revolution (of which feminism was a key component) weakened the old culture to the point where capitalism, flexible by nature and untrammeled by its previous cultural constraints, could flourish on the weakened social organism like some opportunistic infection.
Early 70s feminist Sheila Rowbotham said it more clearly in the Guardian back in 2008.
Yes, I think you are right. Socialism is not compatible with neo-liberal capitalism, which is why the architects and advocates of neo-liberal capitalism turn their fire on anything remotely resembling socialism. The problem as far as I can see it is that socialism's tenets of class solidarity were undermined, not just by neo-liberal capitalism, but also by the fragmentation caused by the proliferation of identity politics that mirrored the individuating work done by neo-liberalism. Initiatives such as the Peoples Assembly is an attempt to stitch these fragments together again. Sheila Rowbotham, Hilary Wainwright and Lynne Segal's groundbreaking book 'Beyond the Fragments' dealt with all that years ago and has recently been updated and re-published and is worth a read.
An excellent critique with ideas that need further exploration. Both feminism and capitalism has come to mean different things to many different people, but surely the ideals in building fairness, justice and equality into our communities should be agreed upon by all. That certain paths to those ideals are seen as outdated or "revolutionary", while individualism and the unquestioned belief in the free market is raised as the only way to achieve those ideals, is a result of years of propaganda and the failure of the left to clarify and prioritise and its betrayal by the Labour party. But such intelligent and honest articles give me hope. Thank you.
No it isn't. It makes entirely ungrounded connections between a body of thought and an empirical phenomenon.
"but surely the ideals in building fairness, justice and equality into our communities should be agreed upon by all."
all good and well... and i love the demccratic element... however its assumes Justice, fairness and equality are absolutes that transcend the world... and if only people would see them as the truths they are they will act in accordance then all would be well. Very Platonic... all very admirable... but what it is evades is the question of power at the core of those ideals the 'polemos' from which they inherently spring... and thus ends up excusing itself from being part of that eternal struggle ( whose justice?, whose fairness? whose equality, let alone what they are...
Not surprising therefore it's unable to throw into the ring, so to speak, alternatives- probably because those Ideals must and cannot be contested because they might hurt someone. Meanwhile the neo-liberal ideology feeds on this paralysis and impotency gleefully shadowing boxing with itself realising as the only contestant it's in a win-win situation...
just look at the state of what passes for political discourse... the only alternative we are offered and will tolerate is the alternative way of packaging the same thing...
Would you care to elaborate on this? Which body of thought and empirical phenomenon are you talking about? Is the body of thought Feminism and the empirical phenomenon the increase in social inequality?
Not where I came from. Single waged families were either where the man was in a bloody good job or they were poor. Both parents working and grandparents doing the childcare was aboslutely the norm because it was a necessity in the working classes.
This, I often feel, is the problem with much of feminist comment it sees the world through a middle class perspective.
In fairness, Nancy Fraser's American, and is speaking about the hyper-idealised vision of the family prevalent in the middle of the last century.
You're right though, the tendency of a lot of feminist commentary, and political commentary in general is tedious and lazy. The focus on "intergenerational injustice" for instance, overlooks the fact that talk of "baby boomers" with cheap houses and great jobs overlooks the fact that huge swathes of Britain have always struggled, and have never owned their own home. It's an argument that only works if you pretend class doesn't exist.
That's true enough. My mum always worked. She used to take me as a baby to her cleaning job.
I never grew up with the idea that if I had children I would stop working.
I don't think it's feminist comment so much as reading a middle class newspaper.
"huge swathes of Britain have always struggled, and have never owned their own home"
Most working people in the Midlands industrial town I grew up in in the 1960s could afford their own home - even those on low wages. A lot - perhaps the majority - of people in council housing could have bought their own homes but were quite happy as they were. They were earning good money in factories.
My grandmother lived in rented houses all her life, but all her kids bought houses.
Feminism in the U K is not about emancipation, it's about middle-class, well connected white women telling other women how to behave.
not all of it, but some of it is depressingly obsessed with that
No, its moved on from that. It's about making sure that the privately educated daughters of the upper classes get their fair dibs of the board-level jobs.
So project guardian, designed to try and stop women being sexually assaulted on public transport, is all about middle class white women?
Why don't you read the articles from the guardian highlighting FGM, the day of the girl, Saudi Arabia, women in around the world. The fact those articles exists shows feminists care about it.
The fact the other articles may be more popular in terms of comments but that's because they generate so much traffic from people telling the world how much they hate feminism.
If I understood your language, I might be in agreement with what you say.Could possibly learn to write in an English everyone understands>
I also think that there might be a good article in there somewhere, but it's strangled by academic jargon.
It's the kind of paragraph that can only really make sense to its writer.
This level of abstraction can't really be supported by any language. Because thoughts can only meaningfully exist in language, the ideas themselves can't work because every sentence can mean 100 things.
I've always though that it must be one of the main reasons that Marxism, even though it is so densely and relentlessly logical, doesn't really work. The language can't support it.
Are, apparently male discrimination against women is a feature of Capitalism.
Perhaps the author shou;ld do a bit of research on how women fare and fared in Third World non-Capitalist countries such as Afghanistan, and in the old Soviet Bloc before trying desperately to shoehorn her political views into a feminist agenda.
This demonstrates how little I understand of political and economic jargon, because my reading of the article was of a sort of feminist mea culpa for having bought into and contributed to building a lousy system.
Of course male discrimination against women is a feature of capitalism. Don't play silly cold war games.
If you want to do that go an watch Tinker Tailor Soldier back to back.
The USSR was very pro feminist in principle. Of course like their anti racism it didn't always pan out in practice because it was a quasi military dictatorship built on the ruins of Tsarist Russia and East Europe....
Same people controlling just finding different tools to do the job.
Only my perception of people being used as commodities no matter their gender, race , religion or any human characteristic.
This part particularly struck home:
Cooption of the term "choice" ties itself in with capitalism, which has never been a friend to any liberation movement. That strain of liberal feminism best parodied in the Onion's brilliant "Women now empowered by everything a woman does".
Exactly!
Well said, you have restored faith in the Guardian's brand of feminism. I hope you are representative of it.
It did strike me as well that those "two possible futures" might easily converge to a greater extent under anarchist models, albeit with a broader sense of choice.
Do the captialist forces which liberated Western Europe from Nazi Germany and ended the theocratic dictatorship in Japan count for nothing then?
Were the Socialist forces which liberated Hungary at least twice preferable?
If feminism wants to be relevant it needs to embrace individualism. That includes individual freedom of expression, notably for women. The Soviet Union has collapsed because it was not fit for purpose. The author obviously hankers for an outdated solidarity but seems not to have noticed that the UK is a major service economy. The means of production is no longer based on manufacturing (a mere 12%) but on the export of individual intellectual property.
Why did America collapse?
Too much unsustainable debt; like the UK.
Individualism is a formula for mass extinctions, first of other species, then our own.
This is just me 'thinking aloud' (not a strongly held viewpoint) but considering how the most prominent feminist campaigns in the UK over the past few years have been things like 'We don't want pictures of boobs in newspapers, or even bikinis' and 'We want to dress in sexy clothes without being called sluts' do you not think that maybe the important victories are already over?
The reasons that people will tell me I'm wrong that I am anticipating are people talking about rape, violence and misogynistic internet commenting, but that seems to me to be general violence rather than specific to anyone. Men also have to suffer from random violence all the time, maybe more than women, it isn't a gender issue
Well, I'm hardly surprised that this is what the mass media puts in front of people.
The reason you are wrong is because the very same machinations that were always employed to manipulate women are in full force today. The very same discrimination, the very same emotional undermining of women by men, exists today. As jobs and resources become more hard to come by, you can be sure it will increase.
Any strategy to get ahead of the next person is sure to increase. Of course not all of it will involve sex discrimination.
Oh yes, violence is definitely not gendered at all.
http://gawker.com/family-gets-driven-out-of-missouri-town-after-daughter-1444590830
All gone now! No need to worry!
No, I think it's more that the in the 'bread and circuses' approach of modern media (not so much bread, either), ding-dong battles that are noisy but ultimately diversionary get all the airtime. The right of women to dress how they like and not be blamed for being attacked being somewhat of an exception, but only palatable to the media because of all the young women tarted up.
I never realized feminism was somehow tied to communism. I thought it was seeking for women a similar status and power in society as men. The idea that feminism had something to do with communism sure sounds strange.
Many years ago, before we managed to flee from a communist dictatorship, my mother pointed out to us that communist party leaders discriminated a lot against women, because they never achieved any positions in the Soviet Politburo or in the senior positions in any other communist countries. It seemed to her the lack of freedom which always comes with communism precluded any possibility of change in the status of women.
I guess you could say I'm leaning towards the position that Neo liberal systems deliver more opportunity and equality for women and minorities than any communist system ever could.
How does "participatory democracy" and "social solidarity" outlined by the author have anything to do with the totalitarian communism that you speak of? The correlation of those ideals with tyrannical regimes is falling into exactly the kind of propaganda that has turned ideas of social justice and emancipation for the majority into some kind of vague evil that must be kept at bay. Socialism and liberalism and even communism have been shorn of their original meaning by those on the right, the apologists for an economic system that sustains class and gender hierarchies, and this has been deliberate. This system does not emancipate women any more than it does men, it only rewards the few individuals willing to buy into that system's values of individualism and selfishness, with community a long way down the list of priorities. It is no doubt better than living under a dictatorship, but it is a long way off being a just and equal society.
Absolutely.
Perfect.
I've only recently come to understand that feminism is an essential step to a truly just society where all can flourish. I somehow missed out on a study of feminist theory when I was younger. I have a lot to learn on that score.
You can tell that someone is not a communist (small "c" of course) if they are an overbearing sexist. They are just borrowing the slogans to oppress you, sort of like some people use religious diatribes.
Regardless of what we call ourselves, or what we yearn for, we are all of us living under capitalism, and it has distorted all of our ideas and perceptions, and poisoned all of our lives.
And I never realised communism was the only alternative to... well... whatever the failing system is we have now.
Hear Hear!
Sounds a lot more important than banning page three or getting lads mags out of Tesco.
Seems to me it's an inevitable consequence of economics. When large numbers of women joined the work force, more available labor (supply) increased and the price (wages) were depressed. We seem to have gone from a situation where most families could survive on one wage and where a second wage was a useful extra, to one where the second wage has become a necessity. And the brutal economics carry on as globalization and advances in automation and efficiency cut demand for labor, again depressing wages. The boss is well and truly have the upper hand. We have to somehow adapt to a world where labor will always be oversupplied, and there is no prospect of everybody finding full-time work. It's not going to be easy.
As someone has already pointed out, lots of working class households always required two wages.
The problem with single wage households is the balance of power it generates.
Not only that, but it's not as if women were respected in the 'good old days' when middle class women stayed at home.
So organised feminism was so important and powerful that it reset the political agenda and gave us:
Governments that though about things other than economic activity (also, apparently a government thinking about things other than the economy is a neo liberal thing...)
The fight against state paternalism; which was good because it was a fight against something which had a male derived 'paternal' root.
Now forgive me, but I kind of though that the fight against 'state paternalism'; the government dictating what is good for you, has always been a key tenant of liberal capitalism and feminism had sod all influence on that.
Seems to me some people are trying to rewrite history so they can overplay their part, as well as redefine what should and shouldn't be feminism to fit with their political views.
Not sure about the numbers of organised feminism, but it was certainly powerful enough to manage to change a good number laws and redefine social organisation.
Also, I suspect if you suggested to UK women, including those who repeat, "Me? A feminist? Lor! No!" that they give up their right to vote, to access all fields and levels of education, to equal pay, to the right to divorce, child custody, contraception, abortion, to have domestic abuse treated as a crime, etc, etc, etc, most would probably not be totally on board.
I suspect it would be harder than you think to extricate the achievements of organised feminism from today's society, and I also believe that those achievements are much, much more substantial than you seem willing to give credit to.
The examples you give of the achievements of feminism are good. And I'm not trying to belittle or deny those achievements, or suggest that they don't form a solid part of todays society.
But those examples were not the focus of this article. This article is trying to suggest that feminisms supposed failiures/downsides are down to evil libertarians, while all of the good achievements of the movement were a result of good old socialist feminism.
I see that as a rewriting of history to suit the authors wider political views.
No, but the focus of the article – economical and political effects of feminism – could not exist without the examples I gave. One is dependent on the other, and the magnitude of one echoes the magnitude of the other.
Maybe it's me and my admittedly limited understanding of all things economy-related, but how can giving the vote and the opportunity to create and administer policies, allowing unlimited access to all levels of education and all types of jobs, and ensuring equal pay, to a massive portion of the population – one blinking half!!! – which previously was almost exclusively either confined to lower-paid, unskilled work, or completely excluded from the work-force, with no say in how government was run at all, NOT have any economical and political effect?
Let's de-contextualise. As of tomorrow, women are relieved of every single one of their rights. Back to the kitchen with us! In our place, the same number of male African immigrants. Same rights from day one – they can vote, stand for election, make policies, access free primary and secondary education, obtain student loans for tertiary education, apply for any job they're qualified for (consider that in a handful of years they'll be graduates looking for graduate jobs), get equal pay and equal rights all the way down the line.
Fast forward 50 years or so. What would surprise you more - the political and economic landscape of the UK being radically different to what it is today, or the fact it had stayed exactly the same?
Personally, I would expect it to be very different. However, if it hadn't changed, would you not take for granted that, for some reason, the new arrivals had bought into the existent system without challenging it? For if they had challenged it, due to sheer numbers, it most certainly would not have stayed the same merely because the pre-existing Brit males wanted it to. When you're talking about 50% of a population, it would be disingenuous to be dismissive of the weight of its influence, whether they row in the same direction as you, or in the opposite direction to you.
What I got out of the article was that, maybe, just maybe, we women could have made more of an effort to make sure we weren't blindly supporting a system which doesn't appear to work humanely, or even particularly well – in other words, we should have rowed against the tide.
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