All Employees Must Wash Hands    

By Dragoneer, a year ago
In 2007 I work in Kyrgyzstan as a contractor for the Department of Defense. I was a system admin managing classified networks, stuck in an airbase in the middle of a foreign country. I didn't want to be there, but hey... it paid well, and I needed to raise money to keep FA running at the time, so off to Southeast Asia I went! I have a hell of a lot of stories from there but the one I'll always remember is the story of Bruce.

Bruce worked on my contract with me... and was fired over chocolate chip cookies.

You read that correctly. Chocolate. Chip. Cookies.

If you've ever been on a military base or in a Department of Defense facility you know there are rules. Fuck, the rules have rules. And you can do pretty much whatever you want to do so long as it's within the rules.

Enter the DFAC.

The DFAC (Dining Facility) is where you go to get your grub on, to grab a Coke, nom on lunch, or whatever you need. And on a base like this everything is free (within reason). Like everything else government-related the DFAC has rules. One of the primary rules of the DFAC: wash your hands when entering. Actually, that's pretty much the only rule of the DFAC.

Enter Bruce.

Bruce was a majestic beast. The kind of man that did what he wanted, when he wanted. He didn't much care for rules. In fact, he didn't really care for much of anything. Bruce was the kind of employee everybody wonders how the hell they got hired and how they kept their job. He existed, and he got paid to exist.

Enter the cookies.

On a military base overseas supporting forward bases in Afghanistan cookies are in short supply. Oddly, that may be the only thing in short supply. When they DFAC baked fresh cookies it was cause for celebration. And Bruce? Bruce wanted some cookies, and wasn't going to be deterred. He found out when they were making the cookies, and snuck over to the DFAC with a plastic bin the very moment they put them out, and filled it to the brim dozens upon dozens of still warm cookies.

But Bruce made a mistake. A fatal mistake. He was so dead set on getting more than his share that he forgot to wash his hands. However, there was one person who didn't forget. The one person who saw him. The base commander. The commander was actually rotating out, and it was his last night in Kyrgyzstan. A new commander arrived, and he was hanging around waiting for his ride out of Dodge.

When Bruce came into work the next day he was confused. You see, the former commander had given him a parting gift. On his desk lay an autographed picture of the commander with the words "Cleanliness is next to godliness." The commander's name was signed at the bottom.

Bruce was confused. What did it mean? Why did the commander give him an autographed portrait with that line on it? And that's when Bruce learned there was a second gift. Shortly after, Bruce was greeted by MPs who informed him that his invitation to be on the base was no longer welcome. He was being evicted, and in fact, his authorization to be in the country on the DOD's behalf had been revoked as well. He had less than 24 hours to gather his things and leave of his own volition. Because he was no longer allowed on base he was no longer able to do his job, and was subsequently fired.

In the end, Bruce was fired over cookies.

This is a true story.
114 comments

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  talonblaze

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
If there's a lesson to be learned here; it's cookies are a deadly temptress!
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Cookies are good. Not worth losing your job over, but definitely good.
  maniacal-metalhead

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Now that is a crummy reason for being fired...
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Seriously.

They weren't even peanut butter cookies. What kind of savage gets fired over chocolate chip?
  maniacal-metalhead

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Well, apparently your old base commander saw fit for that. But, I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
He was a really nice guy, too. Just one of those people who you meet and you instantly get slapped in the face by their raw charisma.
  maniacal-metalhead

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
That's a shame then. Always sucks that the cool folks get canned.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Heh. The commander was a cool guy. Bruce was the opposite of cool. He was... uncool.
  maniacal-metalhead

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Oh. I thought he was who you were referring to. Still, it always sucks when a person you like goes.
  hg3300

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Wait...chocolate chip is definitely better than peanut butter
  madmansgun

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
fuck that, i make peanut butter with chocolate chips in them.
  christopherdavies

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
This is the funniest thing I've read all month!
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
It was even funnier seeing it happen in person. When he came back with all those cookies we were all yelling at him. Take a cookie or two, not an entire container worth of them! XD Never seen karma hit like that.
  christopherdavies

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Oh yes.
  flare

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Greed is a sin, indeed. And that greed cost him his job.
  jen-foxworth

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Wash ya damn hands, son!


Who put their hands in the cookie jar? It was BRUCE! THE SHARK!

COOKIES FOOD, NOT FRIENDS!
  omegawolf9293

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
The real lesson is, follow the rules and wash your hands, simple.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
And wash for at least 30 seconds. None of that "I got my hands wet" shit.
  omegawolf9293

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Unless they have towels they won't need to use excuses like that.
  kaiyeena

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Oh looord
  lordvimless

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
I'm not shocked I got introuble for 3 bananas once.
So cookies and a someone not washing his hands and eating cookies doesn't surprise me at all.
  lordvimless

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
I remember so many bottles of hand sanitizer everywhere.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Seriously. You needed hand sanitizer JUST to use the hand sanitizer. My hands always felt like sandpaper when I lived there.
  lordvimless

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Just remember if somone sneezes everyone dies.
  tyvulpine

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Every time I go into a restroom, I never see any employees waiting to wash hands. How rude for them to put up a sign they don't follow!
  let

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
This is one of those special stories you had to have been there to believe.
  dariuspumpkinrex

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Well.... that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Still, people have been fired for far stupider reasons such as witnessing employees do the Harlem Shake.

Hopefully people who get fired for trivial reasons know that they can sue for wrongful termination.
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  takura

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
How do you not wash your hands after using the bathroom. Especially while at work? Ew...I've gotten sick before due to touching things like money, so you always want to wash your hands. Sanitize the hell out of them too if you can.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Lots of people don't, which is why they require it to enter the dining facility. On a military base if one person gets sick it can spread really fast, and you don't want an army that has the sniffles or the runs.
  takura

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Exactly. People have no idea how easy it is to spread sickness. So your friend wasn't exactly fired over cookies, he was fired over not washing his hands. It's not unheard of to be fired just for that. If he was sick and didn't wash his hands...just think how bad it could have gotten if he touched the cookies while being sick.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
I've had food poisoning a few times, and it's knocked me out for upwards of a week before. And what's worse is I know where I got it and from who, and I still see that person from time to time. Makes me feel all gross and violated.
  rwpikul

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
The handwashing, (or lack thereof), was the justification for the firing.

The cookies were why the exiting commander looked for a pretext to fire Bruce.
  nimono

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
KARMA.
  sunrisefox

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Being a CS in the Navy.. yea the Military doesn't play around...
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Yeah. Military is all about order and structure. If you ignore the structure... and decide to do whatever you want... they're going to crack down on you.
  sunrisefox

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Aye indeed : )

  4death

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Wooooow...that's, kind of extreme. XD
  phoenix777

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
damn, They really don't fuck around when it comes to cookies or Cleanliness.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Well, for cleanliness, it's a basic health... especially on a remote base. If somebody got food poisoning because someone's hands touched a cookie and spread something to it it'd impact operational readiness, something the military takes seriously.

It's sort of like there being a button. The button doesn't do anything -- anything at all -- but there's one rule. Don't touch the button that does nothing. Sometimes the rules are there to weed out stupid people. Sometimes they're there for safety reasons.
  dracosblackwing

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
So... your base commander was an asshole, was leaving, and took a last chance to fire someone he didn't like on his way out the door?

I'd call it awesome except it wasn't. Someone should have found said base commander and fired HIM over some bullshit like that.

And did they seriously not even provide him transportation out of the country? Just 'You're not allowed to be here anymore, leave within 24 hours or....'? What would they have done if he didn't manage to secure some form of transportation out of the country? Lock him up IN the country someplace? Take him back home again anyway? Couldn't they have just taken him back home THEN told him he wasn't allowed back under their jurisdiction? So ass backwards...
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
No. The base commander was totally justified, and Bruce (former military) should have known that. On a military base, especially on in a foreign country that's supporting a war, rules are strict. And they're strict for a reason. The hand washing is set in place to prevent sickness and disease, something which can spread swiftly within the military.

Further, the commander had requested that Bruce wash his hands, and Bruce told him no (thinking because he was leaving nothing could happen). When you're a contractor you're there as a guest, and the military sets certain exceptions. You need to adhere to them.

Further, Bruce's actions (taking dozens of cookies, more than a reasonable share) could have impacted every other contractor on that base. If we lost DFAC privledges there'd been tons of people who'd have no access to food. DFAC dining rights are not something you're guaranteed.

This may seem odd as a civilian but when you work alongside with the DOD or the intelligence groups they have rules, and if you can't follow the most basic, simple of the rules they have full rights to go "Sorry, we don't like you, and we'd prefer you not work here." In this case, when they told Bruce that, he was barred from the base... and that meant everything else that was associated it with severed. He knew that. We'd even warned him of that. He did not care.
  dracosblackwing

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
This explains him being fired, and that he was told to do it and refused which explains WHY he was fired.

It doesn't really explain them basically abandoning him in a foreign country where he could be considered illegally there and get jailed, shot or what have you and only giving him 24 hours to leave, which might not be enough time to get out of the country safely. What if the guy attempted to get a flight or other transportation out of the country, but none was available?

I mean it's fine if the guy was an idiot. He obviously deserved to be cut loose. But considering what else might have happened to him as a result of doing it in such an abrupt manner, I can't understand why they wouldn't just send him home. They could charge him for it and everything, but release him on home soil, not in some country that might do something drastic to him as a result. What's that country's policy on foreigners on their soil without clearance, especially someone who just left a military base?
  dracosilv

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Just sayin... that 'clean-your-hands-bruce-said-no' thing should be in the OP, since otherwise it seems as if the commander is being somewhat over-petty to bruce. Just my 2 cents on things.
  maladi

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
like most military personel i've ever met:
what a scumbag
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Bruce or the commander?
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  maladi

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
The commander ofc.
The guys was rotating out so outright firing a soldier instead of firmly punishing him? that's considered BAD trolling at best.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
He didn't fire a soldier (which he can't, anyway -- he could punish them, but not fire). He punished a contractor. Being a contractor in a government facility is like being a guests. And, as a host, if you fail to follow the rules and ignore the Colonel when he asks you to wash your hands they have every right to say "Sorry, you're not welcome here anymore."

It's no different than at a business. If a director or VP says "Hey man, don't do this." and you do it... even if they're moving to a different project they most likely have enough clout to take action on you. And sanitation is incredibly important on a military base.

The commander simply said he's not welcome anymore. Everything else that happened because of that was all his fault.

The military is strict, and the ability to follow simple instruction is a core tenant of the service. If you can't follow simple instruction the military may choose to have words with you, as what happened in this instance.
  maladi

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
very good reasonings all and all

Guess i should have read the journal more thoroughly :/
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
No worries. =) The military is insanely strict when it comes to rules... but mostly because those rules can not afford to be flexible. Because in a war scenario those rules keep you and others alive, or prevent you from making mistakes. The logic is that if people stop respecting rules when things are peaceful they may not honor them when shit hits the fan.

Not saying people don't overdo it but that's the logic behind it.
  zidders

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Bruce was in the wrong. First off he's stealing food that was supposed to be distributed to EVERYONE. Stealing from fellow employees should absolutely earn you a termination never mind stealing from troops who are in a dangerous situation and rely on those supplies to keep up morale. Then you're looking at a huge food safety violation. What if Bruce was carrying some kind of illness? Now you're talking putting peoples lives in danger.

That's not cool. That and from the sound of it Bruce wasn't one of the troops. As 'Neer said he was a contractor and there to do a job only he decided to say fuck it to the rules and peoples health. Guys like that end up getting people killed. Good riddance.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
That, and the reason simple, basic rules have such a strict enforcement in the military is those rules keep people alive. If you can't follow a basic command or orders you're never going to make it in that environment. It saves lives, and prevents people from doing basic failures which impact the team or, worse, gets people killed.
  varinki

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
As someone who got a really nasty case of food poisoning because someone didn't wash their hands I'd say that guy got what he deserved.
  violetneko

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Awesome story. Always wash your hands, and don't be a dick.
  boykingkilla

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Damn man... the lesson is... if your job is on the line, DON'T touch the cookies! Put the cookies down!
  sergeant

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
If only we had such stringent rules where I work. There's at least 5 employees in this facility that refuse to wash their hands after using the bathroom. I called one of them out one day and apparently he has anger issues because he took it as a personal affront and YELLED at me that it was none of my business what he does with his hands and the hand sanitizer at his desk was enough. Uh, no, it's not enough to stop the spread of germs from inside the bathroom all the way to your desk, and doesn't stop viruses.
  turgius

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Sounds about right. Failing to follow a known and reasonable policy is usually justification for imediate termination. Sounds like they went the route of elliminating his ability/qualifications to perform his position with all that resulted rater than directly separating him. Must have been some cookies though :P
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Yeah. And in this case, he was simply told "You're not welcome on the base anymore." and, because of that, was unable to continue doing the job he'd been brought on for.
  ceralor

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
This is written in the perfect style for /r/talesfromtechsupport. Or maybe there's a talesfromthebase or talesfromtheoffice. In any case, that's pretty hilarious.
  lionus

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
It goes this way. In combat, if someone says “Don’t do THIS or THAT!” They don’t have to explain it to every trooper in the unit. It is sorta like road signs. When they say you can’t do something, it means you can’t do that something whether you understand the “why” behind it or not.

The Bruces of the world consider themselves “special” people that do not have to go by the rules or commands. In fact, they think that they are smarter than everyone else because they ignore rules to get what they want. In combat, they usually represent a solid percentage of the first line casualties in any combat zone.

When they get XX’ed by their own stupid arrogance it makes for a good story afterwards. But when their stupid “the rules don’t apply to me” attitude gets you or some of your buddies killed, I say “piss on their grave.”
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
He was former military, too, so he should have known better than to ignore the rules.
  tjdrakon23

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Not unless he was dishonerablly discharged for the same reason. Also, I like to say that it's people like Bruce that make me sick. People like him, are the reason I'm suspicious towards cops, and authority in general. I'm not saying I hate cops, I'm just saying, if you're a cop and your doing your job, I am a proud citizen, but, if your abusing your power, I find you a sorry excuse, and hope you get canned.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Hell, I'm suspicious of cops... and my mom /was/ one. Things like the Philando Castile case make me incredibly wary when something like that can go so incredibly wrong and nothing happens.
  tjdrakon23

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
I hope people like that rot in hell.
...what do you mean /was/? You don't have to tell me if you don't want too.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
She was a cop. And then she changed jobs. =P
  tjdrakon23

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Ah. Also, you can still get sick even if you wash your hands.
  tjdrakon23

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Also, you will find no sympathy or empathy from someone who has suffered from Periorbital cellulitis at age 3, towards your food poisoning story
  tjdrakon23

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Sorry. I should have mentioned I was joking. Not about suffering from periorbital celluitis. I was just trying to playfully one up you.
  ~kiki~

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
It's always the things we love that destroy us in the end
  arti4000

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
That's honestly kinda rough. But rules are rules, especially in a military facility.
  foxpiper

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
And always remember to sing Happy Birthday while washing your hands!
  kanekasier

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
It's always gratifying to know that there is still justice in the world. Restores my faith in karma, if not general human decency.
  stevefarfan

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
We'll never forget Bruce, but at least- at least we still have cookies
  spotz

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
  cryoticserpent

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Meanwhile in Korea we just have Ration cards that don't do shit lol, they claim to use them for stuff but I doubt it since all they do is look at it without and hand it back
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
We had ration cards when I was in Germany. They were mostly for coffee and cigarettes, and aimed to control black market resellers.

A dude was shot at the PX back in the 90's because it was found he was running a cigarette smuggling ring to the Germans, then ran over an MP when they found out. MP panicked after he was hit by the guy, drew his firearm, shot the guy. He died. For months they handle candlelight vigils for the blackmarketer who hit the cop. Never figured out why.
  cryoticserpent

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Damn, the crazy world we live in, we're required to show them for anything to slow down the blackmarket supposedly but all the workers never scan the cards so it seems more of an inconvenience if anything now
  shad-wolf

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
It makes me sick when people don't wash their hands on the regular after touching things that aren't sanitary. Like actual physical sick, because I've got a really low immune system, I hate coming into contact with people who never wash their hands after going to the toilet, or handle things like trash and garbage disposals. I usually tend to avoid people who never wash their hands after doing certain things.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
If more people washed their hands there'd be far, far less food poisoning, colds, flus, and other nasty-nasties. Unwashed hands are a great incubator for all sorts of horrible things. Although food poisoning is one of the worst for me. In a lot of cases, most common food poisoning comes down to e. coli. Because someone didn't wash their hands after doing the dirty, and then it ended up inside your body. Which is nasty as hell.
  shad-wolf

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Can't say I've ever experienced food poisoning before or flues, but yeah it's quite serious and people just have no common sense to realize how you get sick from these kind of things. I remember while growing up that I use to have a little bit of a germaphobe problem where I wouldn't touch certain things, because I didn't want to get my hands dirty or become unclean from touching things.
  naughtykyuubi69

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
it's not so much lack of common as it is just plain old fashioned laziness and then there are people who just don't give a rat's patoot about the well being of others, either are apathetic about it or they think its funny to spread misery.
  shad-wolf

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Well... they will get punished eventually, just like this one guy did for not doing just that. I could probably imagine that somewhere in the future they'll have some kind of system in place that forces people to wash their hands after going to the toilet, say for example in a public toilet location where hygiene standards are meant to be maintained daily to reduce the number of bacteria and diseases.
  mysfurry99

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Always wash hands before touching stuff in the kitchen. That's culinary rule #1.
  rebornscale

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
"Wash your hands at 110 degrees for at least twenty seconds." >8I Got into cause a few higher up were visiting because I rinsed for 10 seconds. Saw em do the same right after 8u
  angrytoad

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
I really like the oatmeal raisin cookies. I am in the minority on that one.
  neonglowhusky

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
oh wow!
  taylee

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Cookies: The Greatest Enemy

  tokenworks

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
I'm imaging Bruce framing the photo and hanging it on the wall, next to toilet's door, as a reminder of what seems the epic advice in history.
  aquingator

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
The way the cookie crumbles...
  shadowofbucephalus

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
What this person did perform 'Theft', by trying to hog food in a damned container (jeez, what an idiot!), a reprimand should've been the only thing he earned.

What that exiting base commander did, is called 'Pen-Fucking'.
Its when a superior (usually an asshole), finds a way to screw someone over, for whatever reason that they can find, and then carries-out said douchery.

I served in the military, and to my EVER-LOVING joy, was graced with a platoon Sgt. who was a 'Pen Fucker'.

Trouble with him was-

He was dumb as a g-damned rock. He couldn't even pen-fuck me/others, the right way. He'd try to punish those under his charge, for the simplest of things (an 'Irish Pennant ((aka, loose thread)), on their uniform during inspection, not wearing their uniform correctly, while HE didn't even have a web-belt on, OR socks, etc..).

That Officer in 'Band of Brothers', when they're at Basic? The one constantly writing people up and MAKING-UP things to write them up about? Exactly like that (though my experiences trumped that movie by about 20 years).

I called 'Mast' on him, two times, over trivial/bs things he attempted to UCMJ me about (minor infractions that don't warrant a Courts Martial, but WILL be on your record, and often results in loss of rank/pay/privileges, etc..).
Standing before our Base Commander (Captain the first time, Colonel, the next), the Sgt. was allowed to present his side, and then I was permitted to 'Explain' myself.

Both times, I was dismissed from before the Commander, excused and all said 'Infractions', immediately dropped. After the second farce (with the Colonel, this time), the Sgt. was demoted down to Corporal, and transferred from our base to who-knows-where. This person (I refuse to call him a 'Man', for he lacked anything that would earn him that Title), would be the one who was served a grenade (or similar gift), if he EVER served in a combat unit.

Sometimes, the military goes out of its way to be bass-ackwards. No one who's served would doubt this.

But sometimes, just sometimes, the system back-fires on the ass-hats, and THEY get a taste of their own medicine.



B.
  smartpervert

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
wow. i am glad i wash my hands a lot.
  alphawrecker2204

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Well, this was one bizzare story.
  starrlion

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Wait!!!

Fuck the cookies.

You went to another country, in a war zone!

So furries.... Could have PORN????????



  macronikita

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
This comment. Yes. Five Stars.
  superwolves

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Oh my god. I get that a reason could be for the best interest for everyone's health but dang, that was a bit too much to warrant an expulsion.
  zebak

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Well... one leson to learn... on greedily grabing as much cookies as tou can possibly carry, do share! Share with avery single soul that is there the joy of cookies, so that they forget you stole them and isntead foccus on that deliciousness that are cookies! ^.^ There, one simple lesson... cookies!
  bushdog

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Sounds like a lot to lose over some stupid cookies. Well that is one good thing about the military. You have plenty of stories to tell. Not much cleanliness at the FOB's though
  seraphimkitsune

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
I guess thats how the cookie crumbles! :D
  ilbv

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
acookie
  orenthes

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
I would love to visit Kyrgyzstan!

Try to sample local cuisine if you find the opportunity, Kyrgyzstan is particularly known for something called Beshbarmak: noodles with meat and also something that is called Paloo: though I am more familiar with its Uzbek equivalent, Plov, which is lamb over rice cooked in a heavy pan so that all the flavours mix. When it comes to meats: mutton, beef, and horse meat are the most widely-available though mutton or lamb would probably be the most tasty. Also there are really delicious large dumplings known as Manti.

Do try some Kyrgyz food if you get the chance, you'll get a huge meal (Central Asian countries take hospitality really seriously) with lots of good, filling protein and some chai (tea) along with it.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Yep, I ate a lot of Russian and Kyrgyz food while I was there. Also got pretty sick from it, too. XD But I did enjoy it it.
  orenthes

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Yeah, stuff like that one can never quite tell if it's an issue of unsanitary preparation or just not being used to local microbes and the like. What did you get a chance to try?

I really enjoy the cultures and cuisines of Central Asia though. I'll be going to Russia for an extended period of time fairly soon so I'll probably try to visit Kyrgyzstan.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Beshbarmak, lots of various horse dishes (not a meat I like) and some other things. I can't remember the names of it all. The problem with Kyrgyzstan is a lot of the dishes have a soviet-inspiration around Bishkek so trying to find something legitimately traditional is hard.
  orenthes

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Yeah, the Soviet period was one of fairly intense societal transformation and change (whether for better or for worse) for much of Central Asia so it's only now that older traditions and practises are beginning to be rediscovered. Not to mention a lot of Soviet nationalities were actually deported to Kyrgyzstan so that further complicates everything.
  bunglebear

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
I am gonna go out on a limb here and assume that, as a contractor, he was well aware of the consequences of having his right to work on base revoked?

And was also well aware that said revocation was at the discretion of the military he was contracted to work with?

If so, fucking eh! You don't shit on your own doorstep. Especially not if that doorstep is the only bit of hospitable ground you can set foot on in the country. Shame on Bruce.
  wolfymewmew

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Wow! Military dragon. QwQ
That's hot.
  commanderwolfe

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Aside from it being bad table manners, could it be possible they fired him because of the country they were in being home to some diseases that get passed through contact if not washed? Just curious.
  commanderwolfe

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Granted, firing somebody over cookies seems a LITTLE EXTREME. Even by USM standards.
  anglewulf3

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
dude had one job, and he screwed it up XD
  pachyman

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Just read this. Bruce was a dumbass. I'd bet that Bruce did other stuff the Commander didn't like and this was just the quickest way out the door. Besides, those cookies were for the troops - he made all contractors look bad.
  dragoneer

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Yeah. He and a bunch of others were stealing from the DFAC to bring him to their live-in mistresses. Half of the contractors on my team were cheating on their wives, and would openly boast about the lies they told to get away with it.

And these people were all cleared.
  dracosilv

#link     Posted: a year ago

 
Too bad there wasn't a way to snap shots and 'anonymously' post them on rather.. public sites and humiliate those cheating bastards!
  maddogairpirate

#link     Posted: 9 months ago

 
Now, were they real cookies, or did someone just decide that that day they looked like cookies?