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Journal Entry: December 18th, 2010 07:16 PM    

 

Deleted the previous journal - I apparently did not have the full update on our site of things. I apoligze.

 

The long and the short of it - yes, we were hacked. Yes, we have everything under control, and we are currently figuring out the extent of the damage. So far we know that 41 people (including admins) had their notes leaked, and some people had their galleries deleted; the latter we can restore. We will post more updated once we have more information and are able to further review the security logs.

 

My apologies if mis-spoke in the previous journal. I admit my error.

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FA United 4 - Apocalypse

May 20-22, 2011

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Website: http://www.faunited.org/

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Habsburg-Chin

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:16 PM

         Will you be getting into contact with the people who've had their notes leaked, to give them a heads up?

 

 

 

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Dragoneer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:17 PM

         Yes, I've said that several times now. We're compiling a list of people, but we still are investigating the logs and the extent of everything.

 

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necronomicon

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         I will ask again then: Is there an ETA as to when those of us locked out will be allowed back in our accounts?

 

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wraywolfe

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:26 PM

         said it where? This is the first time I've seen you speak up about the issue since the breach.

 

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Pi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:31 PM

         He probably said it in the closed, moderated LJ community furrydrama_2, because his other tree house (WYS) got chopped down.

 

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necronomicon

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:35 PM

         He hasn't even been posting to FD_2, but I haven't seen him say anything about that either.

 

In fact, my question hasn't even been answered. I want to know how much of my stuff was let out after my account was locked.

 

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coffinberry

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:23 PM

         What? He posted there tonight.

 

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necronomicon

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:25 PM

         Oh, not when I wrote this comment. So it's outdated. :)

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:12 AM

         no he said it here a few times

 

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Habsburg-Chin

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:46 PM

         You said on Furrydrama_2 that you will contact the people who've had their notes taken when you've finished the investigation, when you do think you will finish the investigation? Can you give any estimate?

 

You say that 41 people have had their notes taken, so you must know who those 41 are, why haven't you contacted them immediately?

 

 

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necronomicon

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:30 PM

         I've asked the ETA too, and no one has said anything.

 

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Alfador

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 11:32 AM

         Oh good. I don't really have much in the way of compromising information in my private messages, but I was a little anxious about whether or not they'd seen fit to make them public anyway, yet the only other way of finding out whether I was among those 41 would've been to seek out the actual leaked PMs, and I really don't want to do that.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:08 PM

         heads up you have rape charges against you : D

 

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Habsburg-Chin

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:55 PM

         I think not! D:

 

However, I do think that given that FA has failed so monumentally with it's security, they have a responsibility to tell the people they failed ASAP. You've got to take ownership of your mistakes.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:59 PM

         Yup I know but it was a joke about how Admins warned people pulling criminal stunts to keep it on the DL

 

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Habsburg-Chin

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:01 PM

         Oh. Sorry. :<

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

         :> I know

 

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Charrio

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:23 PM

         Thank you, I know i have no real right to expect anything from you or the admins, being a free site and i am allowed to use it.

But please can we have more professional conduct in general, being the leaders your always under a magnifying glass like it or not.

 

What you do in your private lives is up to you, but when you an Icon to alot of people what you do matters, sucks i know.

 

I really have no idea what to suggest cause anything you do will be looked on now by thousands especially if it's drama or some bs like this stuff leaking out again.

 

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Ben_Roprim

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:00 PM

         Wow, you are a complete bitch.

 

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IndoGali

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:08 PM

         ^wins

 

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Ben_Roprim

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:16 PM

         ^ also wins

 

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Sherbniz

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:36 PM

         I'm sorry I don't see it.

 

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beasty101111

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:17 PM

         ^fails

 

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Sherbniz

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 04:33 PM

         Yeah, indeed I fail to realize how someone is a complete bitch for pointing out the truth. :I

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         It only furthers the point of those who spoke up in the last journal.

 

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Osoth

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:17 PM

         Good, you can copy paste what Yak tells you to say.

 

Now shut the site down until you fix your gaping holes.

 

 

 

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Meep-Jay

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:27 PM

         mmmm... gaping holes *drools*

 

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jazzypanda

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:38 PM

         *drools by your side*

 

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Sheppy

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:50 PM

         A little bossy, aren't we?

 

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Sherman128

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:17 PM

         I noticed you got your gallery wiped as well. How do we know this is really Neer?

 

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Kamunt

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         WHERE'S CONSPIRACY DAN WHEN YOU NEED HIM?!

 

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Sherman128

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:19 PM

         Well it could be a hacker we don't know...

 

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Sherbniz

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:37 PM

         Donn your tinfoil hats lads, it's gonna be a bumpy ride!

 

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Hipstar

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:19 PM

         Bureaucratic language, of course  

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:19 AM

         because on other sites he confirmed that its him writing this.

 

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coffinberry

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:17 PM

         Oh, you CAN restore galleries? That's good!

 

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Snow-bLuE-Flame

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:17 PM

         Alright an update.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         lol will anything be done about actions by certain admins? mods? people? who have done wrong to the community according to the leaks or just swept under the carpet?

 

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Dragoneer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         Things will need to be reviewed, but I'm more concerned about the security of the site first and foremost. I will be reviewing all the comments and issues brought up by our users.

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:22 PM

         yeah... im particularly disgusted and outraged by what ive seen so far. i should really hope that these issues will be handled.

 

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dragonien

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:38 PM

         so you read some of the leaked notes?

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:45 PM

         ive seen some screen shots of a couple of messages. the ones that are being passed around the most. i dont want to get too involved but from what ive seen, something needs to be done.

 

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dragonien

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:01 PM

         because anyone that reads those notes. is no better than the hacker.

 

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dragonien

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:02 PM

         er... didnt mean to enter.

 

i dont care whats in them. theyre personal information. just cause someone steals them then posts them somewhere, doesnt mean its any less immoral to read them

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:05 PM

         really, i dont give a shit. what some of the admins have done (neer in particular) is more immoral than anything ive EVER done. seriously, saying something like that to a victim. its bullshit.

 

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dragonien

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:14 PM

         I dont know anything that is in the notes. because i purposefully avoided reading them. in respect for his privacy. if my notes were leaked, i wouldnt want people reading them.

 

if your notes were leaked, i bet you wouldnt want people reading them.

 

 

 

 

Also. just... just curious.

 

 

Now. before i say this. im not saying this happened. im just saying this... you know, just to plant the thought. JUST because theres always that possibility that i bet noone thought of.

 

they hacked FA and stole notes. is it possible...

 

 

is there even the SLIGHTEST POSSIBLE possibility, that someone might have changed what was in the notes to make it worse than it is?

 

again. im not saying i think thats what happened. im just saying... has ANYONE Thought of that possibility?

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:27 PM

         yes it is possible. but i believe whats in them. i really do because i wouldnt put it past the admins quite honestly. im less appalled with neer's advice to said victim as i am with the actions of the offender. i just think he could have worded it differently. his advice is valid, yes, but it just seemed cold and uncaring to me. the other stuff though.... could be in violation of the law.

 

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Synwolf

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:00 PM

         "yes it is possible. but i believe whats in them. i really do because i wouldnt put it past the admins quite honestly."

 

Expect the worst in everything, and you'll never be disappointed. Pessimism's real reliable like that. You create your own version of reality, because you're choosing to view it through a single colored lens.

 

The more MATURE and level-headed action is to remain open to other possibilities about a situation that's still being dealt with. Why? Because if facts come to light that differ extraordinarily from what you believed was true ... it becomes a VERY bad case of Foot-In-Mouth Syndrome.

 

I know it's big fun to jump on the "hurr hurr admins r bad mkay =B" bandwagon, but it's also REALLY immature. Keep a more open mind and people will regard you differently. Not sayin' love them and hump their ankles, but neutrality can do wonders.

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:05 PM

         im usually neutral in all the drama on here. ive tried to stay neutral through all this but seeing just one of the notes, not having even been looking for it, pissed me off to the point where i just couldnt stay quiet. sure there may be something amiss but i highly doubt someone would mess with the content of the notes. im open to any and all facts that may arise but until someone can prove to me that the content of the notes has been altered, ill believe what they contain.

 

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zachhart12

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:29 PM

         agreed!

 

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beasty101111

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:23 PM

         Bullshit on the "sure there may be something amiss but i highly doubt someone would mess with the content of the notes." Don't tell me you believe that just because someone stole the notes they didn't change them. If the person or persons who stole the notes wanted to do considerable damage to the credibility of the victim, why not change the wording in them?

 

Now if this doesn't make sense plz tell me... I'm not that good with words.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:23 PM

         So whos reviewing you? lol

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:45 PM

         exactly. someone needs to.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:50 PM

         idk why but it reminds me of this question: Who created god? XD though I am atheist so I think at some point everyone should be brought under scrutiny

 

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Jandan

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:41 PM

         God created man after man created God.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:45 PM

         Exactly XD

 

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Fuzzypaws

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:56 PM

         No one, because he owns the site and pays half the costs out of his own pocket.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:02 PM

         Mkay so hes free of all charges ever : D

 

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Fuzzypaws

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:12 PM

         I don't necessarily agree with many of his actions, but on a practical basis, there really aren't a lot of other deep pockets furs out there to take over the site from him. If Dragoneer ragequits or is forced out, FA goes into a death spiral.

 

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Fuzzypaws

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:15 PM

         Plus it's worth noting that at least in most cases where something has gone wrong and he has any responsibility for it at all, his greatest sin is simply inaction. It's not like he's maliciously trying to make life worse for all the users here, he is well intentioned. He just... doesn't want to get involved, or procrastinates, or lets people with stronger personalities like Pinkuh and Yak sway his opinion. It's because of personality conflicts with Yak that all the good coders like LexyEevee are gone.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:20 PM

         Plenty of other conflicts im sure that have resulted in good people on his behalf going bye bye because he disliked them. I know Dragoneer runs the site but he needs to take some legal responsibility.

 

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JacobBlakk

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:28 PM

         "I'm more concerned about the security of the site first and foremost."

 

Obviously why you banned one of the only people who could fix the cracks in this dam.

 

Because your team is apparently having quite a rough time doing so.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:41 PM

         Seems he likes to ban certain people over others who still should be banned for criminal activities

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:23 AM

         eevee? he used the cracks to exploit FA o.O

 

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MitchZer0

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         Again, I noticed that admins are members, are you able to fix that?

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:26 PM

         The situation is intentional on FA's part, and Admins can be restored at any time.

 

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Vikar

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:27 PM

         But it's a terrible idea, because the site is still insecure.

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:50 PM

         Which is why they haven't been restored yet.

 

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emo_wolf

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         by golly, as much as they are posting, it takes a while to read it all

 

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Hipstar

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         I still hope you realize the implications of this event are going to cause a much greater impression on the user base than the fact that it was only a confirmed 41 users who were affected, the implications being, of course, that it could happen to anyone and that the site is not a safe place to share information.

 

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HornetV2

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         I was just leaving my comment, lol.

 

Pretty much I understand this could happen to any site. If someone is leaving, will they leave again when something like this happens there?

I'm sticking to FA, pretty much because I feel like I belong here, other sites are like blah.

 

And yes I've seen a few galleries wiped out, inlcuding yours and Zaush's, the guy really got messed up it seems.  

 

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IzumiKage

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         Looks like some mean people have way too much time on their hands. <:/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

         >>Take the god damn site down

 

NO.

 

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dragonien

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:40 PM

         the fact that you refer to him as a "Cub guy" kinda proves your trolling...

 

 

calm your shit down. and let them figure it out. jesus.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:45 PM

         It isnt trolling if its outrage about the site he wants fixed. Trolling is just saying ridiculous things to get a rise out of people :P

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:46 PM

         Not exactly could just be a slip of the mind :P hes angry not trolling look up the definition

 

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sperklespice

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:47 PM

         For the Private info such as addresses and the like a email would be much better. And they pay on other sites. SO the financial transactions still would and could occur.

 

There is now law saying that a admin must have a great skill with computers or have a extensive knowledge of them. Thats like saying that ONLY a certified auto mechanic can work on cars to do an oil change.

 

If they did know the holes they did. Its in the past. They really didnt worry about it because it was never an issue.

 

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fiztheancient

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:56 PM

         this isnt a legit response to someones criticism or complaints and it never will be

 

stop it sigil =\

 

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Tilt

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:56 PM

         Ok,

 

A. It's not in the past because the holes are the reason we are here,right now, Talking about it.

 

B. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. The site owner has a responsibility to the users. Period.

 

C.It WAS an issue, they were too butthurt to accept help,

 

 

 

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dragonien

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:01 PM

         I just accidentally looked at this guys info and saw he likes cub art, and then accidentally insulted him on it.

 

 

odd.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:02 PM

         Still isnt trolling :P

 

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Sigil

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:03 PM

         If it's well worded suggestions, I don't care but when its a litany of personal attacks its like CALM DOWN JUNIOR

 

All the RAAAAAA kind of waters down whatever good points someone has.

 

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Ben_Roprim

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:04 PM

         Dude, shut the fuck up. Who cares if people cant get their porn daily dose of porn.

 

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Jormungand

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:09 PM

        there's those of us that WERE affected that WON'T let you get away with what you let happen.

 

Oh shit son, it's on now - the furries are pissed!

 

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fiztheancient

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:12 PM

         understand that people are very upset and on-edge right now and they damn well should be.

 

you'll have to look through the RARARA I AM PISSED to see the bigger picture sometimes :(

 

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Meep-Jay

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:13 PM

         lol - you're saying shut the site down, but you wont leave... the fuck?

 

and you dont have a say who runs it. whoever owns the site can quite frankly do whatever the fuck they want. Isn't the best ethic to run with, but it's true ;)

 

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Sigil

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:16 PM

         Yeah, I'm having all sorts of feelings right now too, thinking about getting off the internet for a while, derp.

 

CAN YOU IM ME? If you aren't busy or anything.

 

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Tilt

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:19 PM

         Too many retarded people in this conversation. Lots of brainless cheer-leading for Dragoneer while avoiding the central issue.

 

Also all the people screaming about not posting personal info, too bad they posted some of theirs here and there. It's not hard to find.

 

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fiztheancient

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:32 PM

         oh yea i can im u just fine

 

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Animal-Crackers

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:47 PM

         You need to go to a museum.

 

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Sheppy

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:57 PM

         A mental break down? People take this shit WAY too seriously.

 

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Synwolf

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:13 PM

         You realize that at this point, you're rambling like an enraged lunatic ... right? No matter how valid your point may or may not be, nobody listens to enraged lunatics. Freaking your shit out is the exact OPPOSITE way of getting the cooperation and consideration you seek.

 

No matter HOW angry or wronged you feel? There's this little thing called tact and self-restraint, which is employed by MATURE people that are looking for a resolution instead of pitching the biggest tantrum possible because they believe it makes people take them seriously. I'm here to tell you that it doesn't. Like, AT ALL.

 

Go take a cool shower ... read a good book for awhile ... maybe go hug a puppy/kitten or something ... then when you feel you're able to make valid points and argue your point of view in a calm (if a bit curt and angry; that's fine, too) and composed manner, you can come right on back and we can start this over from scratch, without all the insults, accusations, and hostility. What you're doing here is only distracting AWAY from what you're trying to get across, because people are only focusing on HOW you're saying it.

 

TLDR answer -- Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiill.

 

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Sonious

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:29 PM

         FA is to blame for this? 100%? What about Lulz for posting the shit?

 

And by the way, your idol Clayton was dancing and cheering when Dragoneer's leaks came out, so when his stuff gets leaked now you feel pity for him? Maybe he shouldn't take pleasure in seeing things done to others he couldn't handle himself.

 

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zachhart12

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:31 PM

         I'm with you man!

 

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November

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:33 PM

         I fail to understand how you are making excuses for some idiot making his or her password guessable.

 

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Eziel

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:53 PM

         Which good friend of yours is suffering?

 

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sperklespice

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:58 PM

         Show me info on how it was guessable and whos it was.

 

Also if somebody is great with hacking and the like they could crack any password.

 

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Koren-FireSpirit

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:32 PM

         you need to chill and let them take care of it without harrassing him. I have seen the notes that were leaked and bitched LULZ.net out cause they are ignorant and for what happened. so leave it be Osoth!!!  

 

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MandaCat1984

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 12:02 AM

         ^This

 

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Namiel

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:26 AM

         THIS! Sharing information on the internet... You're accepting a risk when you do this on any site, you gotta know that. And nothing against the site, but FA being a smaller site like it is certainly doesn't have the level of security of large e-mail sites and such, not to mention lulz furries and all the hacking attempts on them anyway. It's not the first time the place has been hacked and it's likely not to be the last. I honestly can't say I'm shocked by this situation, and I don't know why anyone else is.

 

Also, to some of the harsher commentary on the journal, free site? You have a right to be upset and disappointed, but try to keep it in balance. You get what you pay for, right? And kudos to the donors on that note.

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:27 AM

         get the fuck off FA and stop filling it with your whining. YOU irritate me.

 

HES NOT THE ONE AT FAULT, GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:30 AM

         wtf secure? HAI ITS THE INTERNET! EVEN PAYPAL WAS HACKED AT ONE POINT!

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:35 AM

         shit man for once i totally agree with ya. people gotta chill and let things happen.

 

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NamelessImp

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 04:14 AM

         i thought it was an admin who got hacked and from there they saw everyone's notes/could delete everything?

 

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beasty101111

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:33 PM

         Then why don't you leave and stop screwing with Neer's emotions huh?

 

As for Aurora, her phone numbers get hacked every F***ing day from telemarketers so please quiet down. I'm not saying shut up, but if you would please only leave positive comments from now on?

Anger isn't gonna help this site any.

 

As for the contradictory first line... this is the last negative reply from me.

 

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Kamunt

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 03:18 PM

         lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol

 

Everybody just chill. http://raraahahahromaromamagagaoohlala.com/ Let's let this make us all feel better.

 

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Tilt

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 04:15 PM

         You sound like the rest of the idiots because you're ignoring the fact that the flaws in the site security were known to the staff, could have been fixed, and could have prevented this.

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 07:30 PM

         well considering that their coders quit or are lazy shits that aint gonna happen, right? i dont see how this is neers fault, he doesnt do the coding.

 

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Talosar

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:23 AM

         Is that not understandable, when he is dealing with so much at once?

 

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dingbat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:18 PM

         NEER YOU NEED TO SERVE ME RIGHT NOW

 

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jill0r

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:22 PM

         ENTITLED AND WAITING [GETTING REAL MAD NOW, MIGHT USE AN ANGRY EMOTICON]

 

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dingbat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:31 PM

         i TOTALLY PAY TO USE THIS SITES SERVICES. this is SUCH INJUSTICE

oh wait no i didn't

 

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Tilt

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:27 PM

         USING CAPS LOCK ALLOWS ME TO GET MY POINT ACROSS, WHETHER OR NOT IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE.

 

Seriously? You're pulling the "Site is free, don't complain about it" bullshit?

 

The site administrators have a responsibility to to the users with reasonable expectations of security, free or not.

 

 

 

 

 

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AvivaShywolf

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:46 PM

         CAPSLOCK IS FOR SARCASM

 

EXCEPT FOR THAT

 

AND THAT

AND THAT

AND THAT

AND THAT

 

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jill0r

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 12:28 AM

         why'd you take that seriously

hmmmmmmmmm

 

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Tilt

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 12:44 AM

         You guys obviously aren't.

 

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:42 AM

         yes. which they can do after they take care of their REAL PAID jobs in REAL LIFE.

 

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Tilt

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 04:12 PM

         Keep digging a hole, your logic isn't escaping out anytime soon.

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 07:32 PM

         what are YOU doing to help anyhow? bitching and whining doesnt do a single fucking thing so whats the point?

 

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dingbat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:31 PM

         i TOTALLY PAY TO USE THIS SITES SERVICES. this is SUCH INJUSTICE

oh wait no i didn't

 

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AvivaShywolf

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:47 PM

         BITCH, MOVE! I'M MORE GODDAMN ENTITLED THAN YOU ARE! FUCKING COMMIE!

 

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jill0r

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 03:57 AM

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwhRQYf--KM

 

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Talonblaze

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:19 PM

         Still doesn't explain the de-admin of the admins. But glad to know things are 'secure'.

 

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Dragoneer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         Until we're 100% sure that the entire admin backend is revised, checked, double-checked and triple-checked we're playing it safe.

 

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Talonblaze

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:25 PM

         Ah, alright thanks. I wasn't sure if this was the hack result or the site safety protocol. Even if its both, its still good to know that the end result is intentional.

 

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Eziel

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:33 PM

         This is why you give very few, and limited people admin ability, and make sure they have up to date firewalls, security, and don't visit random porn download sites.

 

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dragonzoomer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:44 AM

         WAAAT NO PORN?? BUT DIS IS FURRY    

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:19 PM

         ummm.... BULL SHIT! YOU LIE!!!

 

how we not know that its the real dragoneer and not a fucking impostor trying to get more lulz?

 

also damn i hate the fact that some of the people i watched that now have there notes leaked on lulz.net were evil beings.....

 

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zhivagod

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         One of those leaks, which I will assume was this one, was a lie http://db.tt/oT8XDQY

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:41 PM

         well if she was a loony would you think that be a red flag and do not go fucking with!?

 

becides his gallireis blank again so there could have been something else becides that..

 

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Dragoneer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:22 PM

         Because if I and the rest of the team had truly lost our accounts don't you think I'd have pulled the plug on the site?

 

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Cubi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:25 PM

         Or would perhaps be reporting it on Twitter or non-FA journals and the like?

 

Sheesh.

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:31 PM

         if you lost your account yes....but i still have doubts that even if you and the admins got there accounts back, and plug all the open ports up, and finally get good security,.... fact is after the first time there should not have been such a fail on taking the breach seriously, and the fact that this is the second time makes me really doubt there might not be a final breach in fa, were we all finally decide to say good by to old times dissolve and go our separate ways.

 

 

 

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goldanthrowolf1

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:40 PM

         I think I pointed that one out clearly. You ARE the damn owner, you SHOULD have pulled the site. Seriously, I know you're just throwing damage control, but trying to pretend you're not in control is a seriously pie in the face for people who know how this stuff goes down.

 

Honestly, do you realize HOW man IT people are you are angering alone at all this? I'm sure more people are angered by your mismanagement OF the situation, then the leaks that have appeared.

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:42 PM

         then again how the hell you would pull the plug on the site?

 

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goldanthrowolf1

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:02 PM

         As the owner, administrator you have the legal/financial/overall say for the website. If your website is housed in a coalition center like FA is, all Dragoneer needs to do is said call center, which most are open 24/7 in case of emergencies, get a hold of the appropriate people, prove to them that he is indeed himself, to which they find the appropriate machine, simply shut down the os, or doing a manual 'flip switch' and killing the machine. It's not rocket science in any sort of degree. It's like telling your relative to turn off/shut down their machine when they call you to say 'somethings wrong with my machine' till you can drive over and take a look at, or fix it. Its not any different, just on a different scale is all. Does that help?

 

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mukichan

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:02 PM

         easily as flipping a switch and setting it to offline mode.

 

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Sherman128

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:23 PM

         Like   zaush

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:39 PM

         yes sence he bailed he must have something to hide becides the snaffu of the evils of his stupidity.

 

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zhivagod

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:51 PM

         Actually, he was locked out of his account and staff, for some reason, hasn't given it back yet.

 

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Ajna

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:23 PM

         lol Jopa, chill. No more impostors. If this was still a hacker, they'd say something more lulzy.

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:33 PM

         well..... i don't know.

 

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Shadowill

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:48 PM

         that tart doesn't know it neither. she doesn't know that hackers are not stupid enough to reveal their identity.

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:50 PM

         excuse me but why you calling her a tart!? :<

 

though that dose not explaine why you calling ajna a tart! >8C

 

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Shadowill

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:41 PM

         lol~ nevermind. forget it: i'm a asshole |D

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:49 PM

         THEN TELL ME YOUR SORRY ....... and this feels like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi7D.....ure=grec_index

 

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Shadowill

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:52 PM

         i'm sorry: I CANNOT SEE THIS VID 8D

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 12:15 AM

         GREAT space balls! you don't have adobe media flash player or shock wave multimedia?

 

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Shadowill

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 12:23 AM

         no: country restrictions :C

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:53 PM

         well if they were complete idiots who wanted to be found out right away :P besides acting like neer isnt a hard thing to do. Not saying he isnt neer but he does seem very fakey even when I have privately talked to him its like hes been there done that and has it all written down.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:53 PM

         well if they were complete idiots who wanted to be found out right away :P besides acting like neer isnt a hard thing to do. Not saying he isnt neer but he does seem very fakey even when I have privately talked to him its like hes been there done that and has it all written down.

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:53 PM

         well if they were complete idiots who wanted to be found out right away :P besides acting like neer isnt a hard thing to do. Not saying he isnt neer but he does seem very fakey even when I have privately talked to him its like hes been there done that and has it all written down.

 

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Shadowill

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:28 PM

         how we not know that your the real Uc and not a fucking impostor trying to get more lulz?

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:37 PM

         how do we know your not the imposter?

 

hell how do we even know people who lost there accounts to hackers are really getting there accounts back you ever think that? @~@;

 

or even the ones that left are going to reclame there accounts?

 

or the ones with a ton of aired out laundry are going to come back at all?

 

dose anyone know if there okay or just enough not to bee feeling like considering suicide would be something good?

 

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Eziel

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 08:56 AM

         Who had them leaked?

 

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uc

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:12 PM

         hacker(s) got into an admin account and cause the admins had the ability to basically get into all your stuff including fa notes at there leisure the hacker(s) so the hacker(s) got into all the admin accounts looked through everyone's notes and any juicy information that's personal or a tid bit of horrable criminal activity they pasted on lulz.net /furi/, and probably ED, 4CHAN, etc?

 

 

by the way this journals got too many ppl commenting and my pc is too damn old now to deal with it. may i ask if you can respond by note? ^^;

 

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chetchaka

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:19 PM

         Gonna change your status back to Admin soon?

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:31 PM

         When the people working on the solutions feel the site is secure, admins will be restored.

 

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Cobine

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:19 PM

         hope things get fixed soon

 

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EthanBlack

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:19 PM

         You STILL have my sword, oh Overlord!

 

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DreadDenimPirate

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:40 PM

         AND MY AXE!

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:52 PM

         And my pies!

 

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missmab

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:00 PM

         And this 25 cents I found under the couch!

 

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Shadowill

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:09 PM

         And the couch i found under this 25 cents

 

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Aresues

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:20 PM

         I congratulate the admin team for working so hard and so swiftly to return FA to normal. You guys did good. Now, let's find these hackers and let them burn in everlasting hellfire

 

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Chasowolf666

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:54 PM

         then turn back to the admins who helped criminals and question them :P

 

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Shoki

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:20 PM

         This is really no more helpful. Deleting journals because people called you out on what you wrote and then just copy/pasting a new message (without even fixing the grammar error) is really not handling things.

 

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troc_9116

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         I agree with this post

 

I can't wait till 4chan gets this info on Sean here

 

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thewhitedragon

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:20 PM

         and like I said before, please.. many people are eager to help, just dont turn them out just because you think you're gonna lose your control.

you should review any security suggestions and fixes man :/

 

think in the way of the open source fundation.

some people tell what bugs are there, others will fix them..

if you dont fix them, they will pile and another bullshit like yesterday will happen.

 

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deishido

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:20 PM

         Again, I believe that unaffected users are getting involved in affairs that dont directly affect them. Personal information, even after it's in the light, should still be treated as personal information (If you are one of the 41, then I honestly feel bad for you.)

 

Hey Neer, If you'd like a third party to talk to about anything, I'm here (and I'm certain that there are many others willing to have a sensible conversation)

 

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Stormslegacy

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         Thanks for all the hard work you're doing. It's...moronic that people are treating you this badly for what ultimately is a thankless labor of love =/

 

Mistakes happen, my condolences to the victims affected, but ultimately I hope the site improves because of it.

 

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KingDead

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         So will you be firing all the admins and starting fresh? It really seems like it's time to due to gross incompetence on their part for letting this happen to begin with. Password security for such high-level personal should not be that lax. Please just shut down the site and review your security policies if that is what it takes to get it worked out.

 

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dq405

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:25 PM

         Advice worth hearing.

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:26 PM

         seconded

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:33 PM

         Alas, if only the issue was as simple as just someone getting the right username/password combo! If that's even how they got in, they got the password of someone who had been an admin for maybe a week, tops.

 

That said, yes, there has been a serious talk about password security among staff, and a review of security procedures.

 

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KingDead

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:44 PM

         Please just fire the admins, especially the one who caused this as a show of trying to fix things. They may have just started, but it'll restore my confidence in the system if you correctly punish those whose actions damage it.

 

As for passwords, at a minimum, a dual-level authentication. A rotating key in addition to a highly-complex password that requires a re-authentication every 5 to 10 minutes any time admin-level access is needed. You shouldn't have your normal password give you to the keys to the kingdom if you log in with it.

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:54 PM

         Why fire the admins over something that wasn't in their control? None of the admins caused this situation - in the worst case scenario, ONE admin had poor passwording skills.

 

 

 

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KingDead

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:03 PM

         All the more reason to fire them. It's completely irresponsible on their part to be using such a weak password for critical access.

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:12 PM

         I wouldn't really. Like I said elsewhere, the admin in question had been doing it for less than a week at this point - I dno't expect this person to be 100% on the ball with everything right away.

 

And even then, that's IF that's how they got in, which it might not be. The password issue was the original thought back when this was a one day event.

 

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Drakea_Snowpaw

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:43 PM

         Assuming that the password was poor to begin with.

 

How easily it is to accuse one of being in the blame when you yourself would not want the same forced upon yourself.

 

I mean, unless you go around and blame yourself for everything that may or may not be your fault, in which case I'd have to comment upon your mental stability.

 

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miyevskr

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 05:44 PM

         Hey, ho... late passing by.

 

> I wouldn't really. Like I said elsewhere, the admin in question had been doing it for less than a week at this point - I dno't expect this person to be 100% on the ball with everything right away.

 

Strong passwords for admins /were/ mandated and needed to be unique; that was even before the packet sniffing fiasco (which could have been avoided if stealth admin users had been used in public domain, as recommended).

No excuse for "not 100%", sorry, since that should have been covered in induction.

 

The ability to view user notes had also been removed from other admins and restricted to yak and D., I thought. Did that get set up again?

 

Anyhow... if y'all are needing any assistance with firefighting or suchlike, feel free to shout over. I won't barge in, since I'm late passing by and you do (thankfully) have a few more visible staff nowadays than used to be the case.

 

Regards & Best wishes,

 

 

 

Strong passwords for admins /were/ mandated and needed to be unique; that was even before the packet sniffing fiasco (which could have been avoided if stealth admin users had been used in public domain, as recommended).

No excuse for "not 100%", sorry, since that should have been covered in induction.

 

The ability to view user notes had also been removed from other admins and restricted to yak and D., I thought. Did that get set up again?

 

Anyhow... if y'all are needing any assistance with firefighting or suchlike, feel free to shout over. I won't barge in, since I'm late passing by and you do (thankfully) have a few more visible staff nowadays than used to be the case.

 

Regards & Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....>.>;;

 

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Voidrunners

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:40 PM

         Oh god.

 

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Habsburg-Chin

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:38 PM

         Good suggestion.

 

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Kabangeh

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         we we hacked

 

BME Pain Olympics?

 

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:27 PM

         your icon is amazing lol. just had to say it

 

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Groovefox

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         EU and UK users might actually have legal cause against this site due to their respective data protection laws (which are DAMN TOUGH as ACS:Law is figuring out,) so I'd just suggest keeping the site down until things are truly 'fixed.'

 

Seriously, your current actions are pretty much dangerous ones, not only for your users but for you as well.

 

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:27 PM

         yeah. id have to agree. im outraged at some of the things that have come out.

 

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Groovefox

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:39 PM

         Upon further review, with the current treaties the USA/Canada have with the UK/EU, those foreign users DO have actionable cause if and ONLY if they had any of their personal data leaked.

 

Not only are the 'hackers' guilty by the 1998 UKDPA, but technically so is the entire FA staff due to easily demonstrable negligence.

 

I reiterate, the site, for its own security, the security of its users, and security of its admins, needs to fully shut down and undergo absolute re-structuring from the motherboard-up.

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:42 PM

         would be a good idea

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         You are aware that this isn't over, right?

 

http://lulz.net/furi/res/1384572.html

 

11pm EPT there will be another attack.

 

Then again, why am I bothering to type this?

 

You have never listened to me before.

 

I'm not telling you this for your sake. I'm only telling you for the users of this site.

 

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dq405

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:22 PM

         Thanks for letting us know.

 

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troc_9116

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:22 PM

         Oh yes I am waiting for this I got my popcorn ready

 

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Mousey-kun

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:24 PM

         dragooneer is a rather unhealthy overweight man in his 30's who thinks he's a purple dinosaur. What...are...you....expecting.

 

All you people have this weird unexplained faith in this man, when most normal adults would steer away from him a mile away. Its like you guys line up to be disappointed.

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:26 PM

         Uh, no.

 

Like I said, I'm only doing this for YOU, the users.

 

Honestly, I don't have too much faith that he will even bother to read my post. That or suspend me again for some dumb reason when I'm only trying to help the betterment of the site.

 

=>.>=

 

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Mousey-kun

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:29 PM

         The sad part is, thats not even a troll, thats just the plain god damn truth.

 

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Vandell

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:24 PM

         In all likelihood it's just an opportunistic post trying to drum up a lulz. Ergo it was posted on lulz.net.

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:27 PM

         And yet the admin PMs were leaked onto Lulz.net but the hacker(s) first.

 

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Vandell

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:30 PM

         Here's the rudimentary timeline for you.

 

Site hacked > notes leaked > someone claiming to be IK says they're going to attack the site at 11pm.

 

Yes, seems like nothing more than an opportunistic thread to me, just trying to stir some shit.

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:33 PM

         Better to take precaution, then to ignore the warnings, Like with EEVEE......

 

He actually warned 'Neer about the security hole, and 'Neer ignored him, and then he showed that it was a serious flaw. Then was permabanned for it.

 

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Tracker623

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:36 PM

         He gave them 24 hours to do something about it. Should have given them at least a week. The coders do have lives outside of FA you know...

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:42 PM

         You mean coder. As in singular. and 'Neer could have said something to him, like at least tell him that Yak would make it a top priority.

 

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Tracker623

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:48 PM

         Alright then, one coder for a site that has no income with which to hire another.

 

And why should he have to say anything to him about it outside of "thanks for telling us"?

 

You guys need to stop treating FA like it's a be-all/end-all furry site/business and start treating it like what it is:

 

A /free/ website run by someone who pays /out of pocket/ to keep it's servers running and who makes /no money/ doing so.

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:52 PM

       

And why should he have to say anything to him about it outside of "thanks for telling us"?

 

 

apparently, not even that happened.

 

You guys

 

 

I treat is what it is:

 

A website that is dependent on it's users to keep the site up and running.

 

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TIM-ber-wolf

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:01 PM

         You forgot to mention that he also has a full-time job.

 

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Tracker623

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:33 PM

         They don't wanna hear that part though. It's deflates their argument.

 

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TIM-ber-wolf

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:57 PM

         What a pity for them...

 

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eryshefalafel

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:39 PM

         No such time zone as EPT. What a fucking retard.

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:43 PM

         EPT, EST whatever.

 

Typos suck.

 

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Sigil

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:45 PM

         EASTERN PACIFIC TIME.

 

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Sigil

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:45 PM

         I THINK THATS JAPAN ACTUALLY

 

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Voidrunners

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:19 PM

         If it isn't Insane Kangaroo, then it's just a poor attempt at trolling.

 

If it is Insane Kangaroo, he's a flailing retard anyway. Nobody gives a shit about him, and he has to try and grasp attention by being a psychotic waste of space. The only thing he will ever do that anybody cares about, is the inevitable college shooting.

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:26 PM

         It's not. I have confirmation it's not his IP, and IK doesn't go for doublethink.

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:10 PM

         At least there is that.

 

IK is a real pain in the ass...

 

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Lascivus_Lutra

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:40 PM

         Your link was blocked by my lappy as a malicious link...  

 

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redfoxnudetoons

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 09:10 PM

         lol...

 

Lulz is malicious in it's userbase being out for blood... But I've never seen it get blocked by an antivirus program....

 

Must be because of an add or something. I auto-block all adds on every site...

 

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Gaskarth

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 05:52 PM

         Okay now this is starting to scare me.

 

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dq405

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:21 PM

         There is no easy way to say this:

 

You might want to think about the advice you give to women who entrust you with information about sexual harrassment or even -- the term could be applicable here -- rape.

 

Yes, there are things that do not happen on the site, and there are stories that can be hard to verify... but they do involve people who use the site for their own advancement, to gain fans, followers, or targets. Popularity should never be a shield from inquiry, and counsel should be given with extreme care.

 

It's not an easy position to find yourself in, but there must be more effective and more sensitive ways to deal with such matters.

 

 

 

 

Mark

 

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makuyi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:29 PM

         agreement in full. i am DISGUSTED by said advice. im appalled that an admin of all people would say something like that

 

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BridgeportCat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:29 PM

         ^^^this^^^

 

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tcyk89

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:33 PM

         ^ THIS.

 

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Habsburg-Chin

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:34 PM

         ^

That.

 

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Dragoneer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:34 PM

         What he did was not illegal, and I did not feel it was rape. Did he pressure? Yes, but the person said no and did the respectful thing and stood their ground. And I respect that.

 

But what Zaush did was NOT rape. Still, it's completely understandable for them not to feel comfortable by his actions, feel they were pushing the limit. And this has happened to a few people, but rape? I see no evidence of rape.

 

I told her if she felt comfortable in doing so to voice her opinion, but that she'd expect to be countered unless she had some people to back her up or had similar experiences.

 

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wraywolfe

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:37 PM

         consent under duress IS rape actually. Rape doesn't need to be violent or forceful to be rape. Coercion and intimidation factor into the definition of rape.

 

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Vera

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:49 PM

         This :/

 

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Wolfbird

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:14 PM

         This. Been there, done that. Some people are really fucking mean and manipulative and it should NEVER be tolerated no matter how popular they are.

 

For the record, I am not looking for symptahy. I've moved on. I'm just LIVID this happened to someone else in the first place. Do you have any idea how dirty it makes you feel? It's not something that washes off with soap.

 

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BridgeportCat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:49 PM

         Hugs forever, man.

 

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Dirtiran

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:55 PM

         Its called "grooming" and it is never OK. Over here, especially if they are younger its a criminal offense.

 

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necronomicon

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:38 PM

         Rape isn't just forcing someone down with physical strength.

 

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wraywolfe

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:38 PM

         Good job not taking sides, by the way.

 

Oh, up until this post, that you just made.

 

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dq405

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:41 PM

         >>I see no evidence of rape.

 

Dragoneer, she wasn't asking you to be a legal expert, she was asking you for help.

 

>>I told her if she felt comfortable in doing so to voice her opinion, but that she'd expect to be countered unless she had some people to back her up or had similar experiences.

 

Would it have been so impossible for you to say, "You can expect to be countered, but I will do everything I can to protect you on the site until the truth becomes known"?

 

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goldanthrowolf1

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:42 PM

         You're best advice, seriously, when this arises is to simply say, "I do not wish to talk about it at this time." rather then making some other cover story.

 

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Monkeykitten

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:45 PM

         Okay... I just... Publicly voicing opinions about this... Not professional... Stunned.

 

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Groovefox

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:46 PM

         "But what Zaush did was NOT rape."

 

Multiple states across the entire USA have confirmed and set precedent that sex by coercion is defacto rape, however it depends upon the type of coercion as to whether or not the rape charge sticks.

 

Federal Title X.

 

You could stand to do some brushing up on the law if you're going to run a business.

 

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goldanthrowolf1

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:04 PM

         ^This

 

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Sigil

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:47 PM

         oh 'Neer >___<

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hard to proofread when seeing red. >_<

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<yak[away]> I CANT JUST GIVE FULL ACCESS TO A RANDOM HOMO WITHOUT AT LEAST MAKING A SECURE ENVIRONMENT FIRST, AND I NEED TIME FOR THAT

 

Just out of curiosity, how much do you know about web application security? Because in my world this is putting the cart before the horse.

 

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Apothacer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:09 PM

         I won't claim to know anything about web security.

 

I still disagree.

 

I'm mostly here to watch people who claim to know more about the whole incident than the site owner make fools of themselves. To that end I'm only going to make counter arguments that don't stretch the limits of my understanding and knowledge. I won't go out on a limb and speculate.

 

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Pi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:13 PM

         You can go ahead and disagree all you want. I've been pointing out the problems that lead to this incident for a few years. I might happen to know a little more about the situation than you, and what I know might render you unqualified to accuse people of making fools of themselves. Can you live with that possibility?

 

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Apothacer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 08:18 PM

         No. No you're right I can't live with it! AUGH! It weighs on my mind like a constant pain. Oh how I envy Vietnam veterans who only have the blood of women and children on their hands! Goodbye cruel world! I am so sorry for being such a burden unto thee. *Defenestrates himself in a shower of glass, only to land on an awning and then a snow bank outside the chinese restaurant.* Damn it... Another suicide attempt foiled.

 

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The_Hambone

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 11:14 PM

       

I won't claim to know anything about web security.

 

 

That's all you really needed to say.

 

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Apothacer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 01:56 AM

         Yes, but I still have an opinion. I may not be able to recite the constitution and all the amendments but I still have a vote. *relevant if you are a US citizen so I apologize if the reference is lost on you..*

 

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The_Hambone

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:31 AM

         True, but to make an informed vote, you have to have a pretty good understanding of what the candidate you want to vote for stands for, how you would expect him or her to make policy, and how that policy would affect the country, otherwise it's just a guess.

 

I'm not saying you don't have a right to an opinion, all I'm saying is that from what I know of Pi, he understands this sort of thing quite well and knows what's going on here. From what I've seen, Dragoneer is downplaying what happened. I don't have any stake in FA should everything go belly-up, so I'm not concerned about what Dragoneer has said from a purely personal standpoint, but some people might have certain info in their notes that they'd rather not go public, so telling them that it's all sunshine and roses and there's nothing to worry about when that isn't necessarily true isn't the wise thing to do.

 

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Mousey-kun

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:31 AM

         But if your opinion is complete shit, than it still doesn't matter.

 

Keep licking the dragon's feet. While he shits on your donations, toots.

 

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Apothacer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:38 AM

         Not much I can say to argue with that objectively. To say otherwise would be a lie.

 

I will say though, personally it seems like Dragoneer is trying pretty damn hard to both inform us of events as they transpire and to keep dispel the alarmists. You have to admit, even we shall assume for the sake of argument that Dragoneer is feeding platitudes, that there are a lot of alarmists and people spreading rumors that he is up against and having to refute. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle but when I see a lot of people ganging up on someone who I really do believe has FA's best interests at heart, I have to go with my guy and remind people that the guy is trying, and if he "misinformed" us it wasn't a malicious or deceptive maneuver.

 

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Apothacer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:38 AM

         Thanks for the well thought out and intelligent reply. :/

 

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Apothacer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 19th, 2010 02:42 AM

         Ignore the word keep, insert go with my gut for go with my guy, and all in all keep in mid it is 1:49 and I have had six beers...

 

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KravBleu

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:23 PM

         Idk about leaks but it looks like my unread notes ive sent got deleted

 

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KravBleu

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:27 PM

         Nvm on the wrong account..

 

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betsy

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:23 PM

         TALKING TO ME THIS WEEK WAS A CURSE TO US ALL! *sadviolins*

 

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necronomicon

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:24 PM

         Please take this as an opportunity to accept help from the people who are offering it. You know I have been a supporter of the admin team for a long time, but having my account messed with and hearing nothing from you guys has really shaken my faith. I don't want to see FA go.

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:38 PM

         Rest assured, you are not being ignored - so much as right now, attention is on preventing more damage to accounts rather than fixing already existing damage.

 

Once the site coders have declared FA secure, admin manpower will skyrocket and they will be able to start fixing the issues.

 

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necronomicon

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:40 PM

         Thank you so much. That's all I wanted to hear, some reassurance from someone. In a sea of "omg popufur has been hacked" and "dox are being leaked" I've heard nothing about when the little people who got targeted are going to be helped.

 

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summercat

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:55 PM

         Well, I'm a little person too.

 

...okay, so I'm SLIGHTLY overweight >.>

 

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troc_9116

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:25 PM

         "we we hacked"

 

looks like someone is getting pissed

 

hey Sean u mad?

 

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Ajna

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:27 PM

         LMAO Holy fucking shit! Dragoneer accidentally type "we we" instead of "we were" xDD Omfg, that is just hilarious. What a fucking dumb ass, that guy is. I mean, seriously. He's SO mad, he left off a couple letters. Absolutely unheard of! x)

 

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Pi

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:48 PM

         Dragoneer didn't type that, Yak did.

 

What Dragoneer typed was more along the lines of &quot;the site is secure, we've fixed the problem, the only damage was some people's notes got leaked, oh my poor wounded pride, stand by us in this low point in my life, woe is me&quot;

 

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Ajna

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:54 PM

         Doesn't matter. The point of my comment still stands. Which was sarcasm, btw.

 

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Dragoneer

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:30 PM

         Not mad. =3

 

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troc_9116

       

(No Subject) Posted: December 18th, 2010 07:35 PM