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Nir

To all the people bashing cub artists~

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Especially cub porn artists forcing all of the massive influx of the ones leaving, this is my general reaction to you guys. :3

https://youtu.be/3AOYq4uGcGQ
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Added: 3 months ago
 
TheChoate
3 months ago
Even though I’m completely impartial, I feel like there’s a great injustice to certain artistic liberties.
Where’s Thanos-sama?
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
I mean, in the grand scheme of things, I am too. And while the prejudice will never go away, racism will never go away, hell being labeled something inflammatory because of opposing idealologies than one's own, theres a fine line with disagreeing with something and harassment.

While I've had my fair share of people who attempted to do the same, but failing miserably, because don't troll a troll, but witch hunts over something fictional and just literally JUST art is ludicrous.

I mean people have come and gone withon the fandom for as long as I've been apart of it, but man its been a vast majority of artists as of late. I noticed the trend and wasn't sure what the hell was happening. O.o
RollerCoasterViper59
3 months ago
Every dumb ass I talk to on FA and Twitter doesn't know the difference between irl and art. I may not be into cubs but at least I have brain to know that cubs are fantasy and do not equate to the more horric irl event
GronV3
3 months ago
I always ask the people if they have seen any children with animal ears and a tail that have fur all over there bodies I am sure they will have a dumb look on there face when asked that question.
kitsunelegend
3 months ago
Amen kitty, amen. v.v

So many sjws getting into the fandom lately and ruining things... =C
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
The lil SJW nutwits have tried with me, but they just bitch and whine when I cut them down to size. XD I generally don't even have to match wits with them, or have my intellect dance around theirs, I just simply can't help but to laugh at them for how pathetically stupid they are. XD
mouse24
3 months ago
Odd, most of the people I run into ranting about cub are the god/church fanatics.
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Its a variety of people from my personal experience honestly. You get some militant Christians, but most from what I've seen are more SJW's, kids/adults who have low self esteem and feel better being the accuser than the accused, then you just have the inexperienced trolls who join suite cause its what everyone else is doing/just for fun cause its the "cool" thing to do.

Those are the variety of flavors I've seen. :p
mouse24
3 months ago
I mostly get the church terrorist, I haven't had the experience of running the others yet.
Kokatsuna
3 months ago
any of them catholic priests?

they also forget one of the key phrases in scripture
 Matthew 7:1-3
Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? *mic drop* it's funny how often those verses can be ignored or forgotten when it comes to shit like this

this is the ultimate rebuttle that SHOULD shut up any halfwit in this cub-art-bashing bandwagon
mouse24
3 months ago
a few, mostly MEGA/ Southern baptists
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Oh I have a field day with militant Christians. If they want to be silly and cute with using the bible as their tool... well... I use their own tool as my weapon against them. I'm generally open-minded and chill with peoples beliefs, lack of beliefs, etc... but when you advocate that as your reason to justify being an asshole, well... I'll just give an example of how I completely and utterly shut down Christians (in particular) when they spout their non-sense:

Christian: This cub art is wrong. It's advocating pedophilia and bestiality... and everyone who draws/likes this is committing the same atrocity! I know this cause it's written in the bible and God said so!

Me: Ohhh, your bible is your proof? So, you believe EVERY word and also believe this is the true word of God, right?

Christian: Yeah! It is THE word of God!! >8(

Me: *Snrk* Well then, if that's how you feel! .... *Takes deep breath* =D
So when was the last time you gave a sacrificial offering to your god?

Christian: W....What?

Me: When was the last time you offered your sacrifice to God? You know, like what animals have you sacrificed to an alter of God?

Christian: Are you mad?! Why in.... Why in the hell would I do that? It never said that in the bible!

Me: I dunno the instructions are pretty clear in Exodus 29:10-42. You have to take a bullock... which is a castrated young bull btw.. bring him before he altar and slay him before God. Then he goes on to say you take the blood from the bull, put it on the horns of the altar with your finger, then pour all of the blood at the bottom of the altar.

Christian: W-Wha..? ._.

Me: Oh! Make sure you don't offer the skin, flesh, and dung of the Bull. Instead burn it, cause it's a sin offering. >w> Oh then you have to do the same to a ram, after you slay him you have to sprinkle the blood around the altar, cut the ram to pieces, wash the insides, then burn him, because it's a sweet flavored offering to the--

Christian: W-Well, okay, that was just in that one chapter! It was a different time then!

Me: Mmmm... Actually nah. It was pretty explicit in detail and was mentioned in Genesis 15:9, Exodus 20:24,
Leviticus 1-7:38, and Numbers 28:1-29:40.  I mean, I thought you read the book that you preach and shove in the face of others? o.o

Christian: He.. Well... He--He changed his mind, that's all! That was all before Jesus died for our sins! The New Testament is the true teachings of the word of God!

Me: Huh... So we ignore the Old Testament because the New Testament are the true teachings of God?

Christian: Yeah, that's right!

Me: Sooo, that makes your accusation of people who like cub are zoophiles and pedophiles are unfounded. Want proof? Okay, we'll use the bible, since you're so familiar with it. Based on your logic, Bestiality is only directly mentioned as being bad in the Old Testament: Exodus, Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc.

Oh and your pedophile claim? Well, the bible has nothing to say against pedophilia. In fact, it does have some passages that seem to approve of it. For example: It's OK to have sex with "women children" that are obtained in war. (Numbers 31:1-18). "And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male" (Judges 21:7-11)

Or, "But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee." (Deuteronomy 20:13-14) Oh, and there's this little nugget of, well.. It's OK to sell your daughter (no mention is made of age) to a man for him to use as a sex slave.


Nir
Nir
3 months ago
"if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant ... If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed" (Exodus 21:7-10)

The bible specifies that a person must be fully grown to be married.... Or just he or she must be physically mature enough for sexuality and child-bearing. Beyond that, the Bible does not specify a minimum age for marriage. It does say that those too young for childbearing are not candidates for marriage, though there is no explicit age given in the Bible.

Weeeelll if we look at anatomy and historical cultures during that time, boys were not considered “men,” and therefore not marriageable, until the age of 13. Girls were not considered “women” until age 12. These ages more or less correspond to the onset of puberty. While those ages might seem too young to society now, but they weren't unusual ages for getting married back then, ergo the bible is cool with fucking kids. Anything under 16/18, right?

Christian: .............

Me: *Pats on head* Miiiiiiight wanna do research on the thing you're trying to shove in people's faces next time. =w=
Kokatsuna
3 months ago
when double standards comes back to bite the accuser XD
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
*When I hear/see militant Christians trying to shove their beliefs upon others (aka being an asshole)*

Krin: *Headturn* !!!! >83
lucashoal
3 months ago
No we're not. I'm skeleton af, but also pro cub art.
AlexHusky47
3 months ago
I've been biting my tongue for too long. Over the last year and a half I actually interacted with the anti-cub campaign and it's all just whiny, self-entitled SJWs that use emotional virtue signaling to bully the cub community. What the cub community (artists and fans alike) needs to understand is that deleting your account and leaving is NOT the answer. If you ask me it's the total opposite, all it really does is show them that their tactics are working, thus giving them more power to exterminate our community. We need to stand our ground and fight back, because if we don't eventually inkbunny might ban cub. Other fetish communities also need to do the same, because once they're done with us, who's to say they won't try to do the same to those communities? My point is that leaving isn't the answer and we need to STAND OUR GROUND.

Spread the word.
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Aaaah so there is a campaign! Heh.. Maybe I should join and poison the lot. >w>
AlexHusky47
3 months ago
Yep, we should lash back and take back our artistic liberties.
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Don't fight fire with fire.









Fight fire with dry ice. =w=
whitewulfe
3 months ago
I dunno, Leidenfrost effect might make it not as effective...  But on the flipside, as it does evaporate it releases a rather heavy amount of carbon dioxide, which is effective at snuffing out fires due to it displacing oxygen....

I suddenly now have a desire to throw a 5 or 10 lb block of dry ice into a small fire to see what happens >.>;;;;
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
One of those jokes that's funnier the more you think about it. XD
AlexHusky47
3 months ago
Yeah you're right it probably isn't the best way to deal with it.
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Believe me, I know how to collectively break down people like that. You just have to know how they tick, the root of their beheavior and why they think the way they do, and maliciously exploit it. XD
Kokatsuna
3 months ago
and Matthew 7:1-3 :P
obscenity
3 months ago
where do i sign up? X3
Zippo
3 months ago
Its just yet another thing that should be ignored, and if the thin-skinned are leaving so be it.
*goes back to drawing smuts*
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Oh it doesn't bother me. I've had my fair share try to do the same things to me, but I had a field day with those people. XD Don't troll a troll.

It was more so just the trend of the sheer amount of artists leaving within the last few months. Unfortunately not everyone has thick skin like you or I. XD
Viperman200221
3 months ago
AGREED! and good vid, lol!
MystBunny
3 months ago
A better response to it would be to commission lots and lots of cub rape. DO IT =D
obscenity
3 months ago
omai

i volunteer as tribute o3o
FrickFrack
3 months ago
I've seen like.. Four artists I really like drop out of drawing cub stuff over the last year. It's really upsetting.
KevinSnowpaw
3 months ago
they are likely getting shit on by the fanbase not active on IB such as FA tumblr and twitter. it's very sad.
FrickFrack
3 months ago
Well obviously not on Inkbunny. I don't think they would be able to stomach this site if they hate cub art so much. Honestly it shouldn't be a issue to them. You'd think they would avoid it. People not into scat don't look up scat pics.
MystBunny
3 months ago
" Well obviously not on Inkbunny.

That might explain why I haven't been getting any shit for it. I'm not active anywhere else.
GronV3
3 months ago
I like to bring up the fact that back in 2009 when I joined FA Cub Smut was allow very much like IB allows it.
They do not like it when you bring up FA was a cub smut heaven it was only recently after IMVU bought out FA that IMVU said no to cub smut.
KevinSnowpaw
3 months ago
oh i am well aware im still upset about it XD
Domzywomzy12
3 months ago
*baps the cute gator* But yes its mad stupid tbh. *sigh*
FrickFrack
3 months ago
D-don't bap me you turd!
Domzywomzy12
3 months ago
B-but you're a cutiepie <3
FrickFrack
3 months ago
W-weh
KevinSnowpaw
3 months ago
lmfao that was great.


in all seriusness the vast maority f people on IB are pro cub or dont care so I dont think to meny a holes will see this.
Domzywomzy12
3 months ago
I aint going nowhere sooo. fuck em lol.
Elderwolfyena
3 months ago
Hahaha indeed, doing the same reaction to to all the haters >:3
Meowz
3 months ago
Did something new happen that I missed by pure luck? ;( What kind of bashing? You mean the bashing that's been going on for years, or some kind of new resurgence?
moyomongoose
3 months ago
Here is how I perceive the bashers;

Judge Troll - The Self Appointed Judge by moyomongoose
SpoonFox
3 months ago
I had a couple bother me a few months back and I'm not even a fucking cub, I'm a midget. They're blind as balls. ~-~
Gj456
3 months ago
Cub porn is just art. It isn’t real life
obscenity
3 months ago
oh no, i didn't expect the video to be that scumbag X3

but yes, as a cub, i don't mind cub art at all~ hehe

this post would go great on FA
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Scumbag as in the character is a scumbag, or the actual actress playing Brittani is a scumbag? owo;

You know Brittani Venti is a character right?
ShanetheFreestyler
3 months ago
I'll say this loudly for the guys in back:

FICTION IS NOT REALITY!


No one bats an eye at drawings of blood and gore, even though murder is a crime in real life; but show one cub dick, and everyone loses their mind even though it's just as fictitious!

Fiction is fiction is fiction is fiction! If it's not real, then where's the crime?
obscenity
3 months ago
hehe, joker meme
ShanetheFreestyler
3 months ago
A bit unintentional, but I was thinking of that very scene.
Kokatsuna
3 months ago
that's double-standard retardation for ya lol
FatCatBat
3 months ago
"But furries are real, I see them all the time! In my actual eyes! Doing actual real things!"

I like poking fun at people who take fantasy seriously, like the one responsible for petitioning FN to ban cub, who also draws a gross fetish that they still defend with "it isn't real"
Danzer
3 months ago
i havent seen any of this honestly, and i watch a bunch of cub artists on twitter >.> guess the Japanese ones are safe?
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Yeah, that seems to be the case. Heck I've been more active on Pixiv as of late. Seems to be nonexistent over there.
DiegoandFriends
3 months ago
I had no idea there was an issue. I personally haven't had anyone give me crap or any of the artists I know. I know I lost my Tumblr recently, but I kinda expected that to happen the moment I started doing cub posts. *shrugs*
peacem92
3 months ago
ROFL  I agree if you don’t like it don’t look it up.
soggymaster
3 months ago
Nir butt is the best reaction, I say.
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Owo; But would Nir butt want to make people not jump ship? owo;
Failuremaster
3 months ago
You know this is rather crazy but the fact is most of this stuff on this site requires you to be logged in you're very own account on this particular site so what exactly are they doing if they hate that kind of stuff on this site with a setup account looking this stuff up and then harrasing people over it. And the answer that actaully makes more sense than any other is:there is no logic to begin with about sjws
frostcat
3 months ago
It's a horrific shame that this is STILL going on since '07-'08. I can only respond with my quote I came up with.

"People shouldn't focus on the person someone is pointing to. People should focus on that someone doing the pointing. Because one day, that someone will be pointing at them!"
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Well unfortunately its seem to have spiked as of late. Its hard to tell if theres been organized witch hunts massively increasing just this year alone, or this being a matter of coincidental timing?
AlbeonX
3 months ago
It seems some furries will do anything just to feel superior to other people. The fandom is getting more and more toxic just because a bunch of entitled little brats can't handle people who don't like what they like and think how they think. For a supposedly "open and inclusive" community, they can be downright puritanical at times.
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
The core of the fandom seems to have shifted. Someone made a journal a couple of months ago, wondering if the fandom has changed as of late. Honestly all evidence points towards it really has, and not just from "time changes things/nothing lasts forever" standpoint, but as a fundamental whole, its different.

The furries I personally knew starting out are all gone, all jumped ship and haven't looked back. It seems since 2016+, theres been a generation gap between the mid 2000's-mid 2010's furs and Generation Z kids who are turning 18ish now and most of the fandom are incorporated by newer generation kids. We couldn't say the fandom was really mainstream from 2005-2013, but after the Generation Z kids started gravitating in from Youtubers talking about the fandom, MLP, and a lot of games pandering to the fandom, the fandom became mainstream since, and I think theres too much of a wedge between the generation gap because of that. Most furries now are the Generation Z flash-in-the-pan, trendy hipsters. So those kind of people will do what other people are doing, mentality-wise. Which unfortunately includes witch hunts against particular individuals/minorities.
sonicrainboom
3 months ago
Someone with a deviant fetish trying to demonize someone else with a deviant fetish is funny. We are all animal fuckers to "normies"
Kittzy
3 months ago
I guess some people can't distinguish fantasy from reality. People have given me flak for drawing this so I just delete their comments or whatever they tried, block and ban the person from seeing my drawings.
Shuts them right up.
IGAKattack
3 months ago
I keep typing up some kind of massive rant... I'm sorry, my words keep running away with me.

You would think that after so many long and painful generations of human history... the whole human race would have learned... something... by now.

But I guess its too much to ask.

My defense, as a cub artist, will come down to the whole witch burning thing. Oh, and how suddenly, now, the church is also full of... well... you know.

"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

Oh, and the film/videogame industries, among other things, ALL have specific ratings so that people know what age group its for, and SPECIFICALLY what the film contains, so you DON'T have to watch it or play it. FFS.

The furry fandom does exactly the same thing; we have countless tags to apply to these pictures, and they are there specifically so that BOTH the people who do and do not want that content can identify those things in particular.
Kailestis
3 months ago
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
=D *Sharp surprised gasp!*
moyomongoose
3 months ago
Here's my reaction to the cub haters themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q_2nrp9OTg
skyboxmonster
3 months ago
well Peony just left the site and took everything with them... this is very upsetting to a dragon who only has 18 of their drawings downloaded. there is a unknown number more that I do not have in my collection.

its to the point I want a webcrawler to mass download IB's entire database.

FA used to have a webcrawler mirror site but I was unable to locate it again.
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Yeah after Peony being the 3rd one in two weeks, this shiz has just gotten ridiculous.

But I guess some can handle the pressure better than others. My whole life I've been abused by loved ones, peers, "friends" at the time, so guess I've learned how to deal with it by being a better asshole than them. =.=
Johnhopps86
3 months ago
I can't believe they left. I am following quite a few artists, and they are the third or fourth one to just up and leave in the past month or so. I wish they would leave the art up or just put it under friends only or something. I got my main character from Peony.

I guess I'm going to have go thru my 5900 favourites and start saving them to my computer. I wish there was an easy way to download all the pics in my fav's list.

But by giving in and taking down all their art just means that the bad guys win. If people are trolling you, then block them and report them, but don't give in, because that just means that their bullying has worked and they win. This is like at my work, if I gave in to my coworkers bullying I would of quit after about 3 months, but I have sucked it up and just be nicer to them, because bullies really hate that and I don't show that they are getting to me, I won't let my coworker win.

And likes others have said above, if you don't like something then don't look at it. If you don't like something, that doesn't give you the right to bully someone and torment them and write rude comments about their art. No one is forcing to look at it, so don't. And everything on here is fiction, which means not real. I personally like cub art and all that, I think it is cute, but I also know it is not real and it doesn't mean I want to do what is shown in the pictures in real life. Heck, I have 4 young nieces and I would never think of doing anything to hurt them or harm them in any way. And looking at the cub art with sex has not made me want to change my way of thinking towards young people either and never would.
skyboxmonster
3 months ago
At last count i have 130Gb of downloaded furry images saved as a backup. I could easily host my own furry website,
would be illegal though
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Oh! Have you tried Atfbooru or e621?
skyboxmonster
3 months ago
I know of E621 but Its hard to mass download from, never heard of the booru site
junkhunterjr
3 months ago
I take it this is in response to Peony up and leaving due to getting bashed for their cub art or just in general?
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Well it's been going on A LOT in general, but after Peony, it was just like a moment of levity of "Y'know what? This shit has gotten ridiculous" after so much of it just as of this year in general. So it wasn't just because of Peony, but she was the final nail in the coffin of this whole debacle.
Nir
Nir
3 months ago
Yeah, it's mostly geared towards human stuff, but as of late, cubs have been gaining in traction of appearing there, so it's worth it as strictly a backup. :p https://atfbooru.ninja/
PervRat
2 months, 3 weeks ago
The prejudice is as immutable as it is irrational and inconsistent.  Cub art is to pedophilia what the game grand theft auto is to real life robbery and murder.

Pedophilia, referring specifically to real life sexual exploitation of real life children, is and should be a crime.  Exploring the fantasy through stories, art, even games should be no more criminal than exploring real life robbery, murder and mayhem in movies, stories or computer games.  A real child has rights, a fictional one shouldn't and doesn't.

But, again, you can't really change one's mind.  I wouldn't argue the point, as there's nothing that can tend to change a mind on it ... but that's the real crux of it.  Prosecuting fictional crimes falls under thought crimes.
BrokenPupper
2 months, 3 weeks ago
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