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Christianity & White Nationalism

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It is a commonplace among White Nationalists to disparage Christianity. This is understandable inasmuch as most of the Christian denominations today have abandoned almost all of the tenets of Christianity. The typical Christian minister or priest is no longer a saver of souls but is instead an anti-white social justice warrior (SJW). “Is the Pope Catholic?” is no longer a self-evident joke but is now a serious question that must be answered in the negative. Millions of Christians hold fast to a historical faith that is actively opposed by institutional Christianity. The mainline Protestant denominations have been in spiritual decline since the end of the Second World War, the Catholic Church has been lost since Vatican II, and even the low-church Protestant denominations such as the Southern Baptist and the various Evangelical and Pentecostal denominations have succumbed to the inanities of the SJWs and the nonsense of dispensationalism, the latter being the ludicrous idea that, somehow, the Jews are still the Chosen People and that a powerful state of Israel is a necessary condition for the Second Coming of Christ.

The response by many White Nationalists to the spiritual collapse of Christianity in the West has been to write off the religion as a useless relic of the past that has no place in the coming ethnostate. This approach, I believe, is very shortsighted for several reasons. First, White Nationalists are rightly concerned with the organic nature of the nation-state. An ethnostate is by definition organically organized. As such, it is important to remember that Christianity has been an organic component of Western civilization for the past two millennia. It is unreasonable to think that worship of Zeus, Odin, or any sort of artificially created New Age substitute for Christianity will be any more successful than Antoine-François Momoro and Joseph Fouché’s attempt during the French Revolution to replace Christianity with the Cult of Reason. It is also important to remember that those countries that have most resisted the tyranny of globalism (Hungary, Poland, etc.) have done so by consciously asserting Christianity as an essential and organic part of their national identity. And second, yes, institutional Christianity is corrupt, immoral, hostile to white interests, and intellectually and spiritually bankrupt. So are the universities, large corporations, the press, and almost all government entities. Yet there will be universities, corporations, a press, and a government in the coming ethnostate. Any institution that has been corrupted can be uncorrupted, Christianity included.

The Gramsciian long march through the institutions began with the Church. In fact, the long march through the Church actually predates Gramsci’s formulation of the concept. In 1907, Pope Pius X authored the encyclical Pascendi dominici gregis (Feeding the Lord’s Flock) that denounced in the strongest terms the attempts by modernists within the Church to substitute Leftist ideology for Christian theology.[1] The Leftists eventually won in 1962, when Vatican II all but destroyed the historical faith. In Protestantism the rot set in much earlier, and one famous example can be seen in the work of the Transcendentalists, who, applying the tenets of literary criticism, replaced the theology of Calvin with the hippy-dippy feel-good theology of emotions that wrecked the Congregational Church and gave us the Unitarian-Universalists, a denomination that has no God and no theology, and exists mainly as a support group for overweight lesbians, transitioning beta males, and graybeard college humanities professors who think Woodstock Nation was akin to Periclean Athens.

With the corruption of the Church well underway, it was child’s play for the Left to attack the educational system. The GI Bill had horrible consequences for colleges and universities. After the conclusion of the Second World War, there were suddenly hundreds of thousands of unqualified veterans who were now able to afford college, thereby infusing billions of dollars into institutions that were in the process of being taken over by the Left. Academic standards began to fall in the late 1940s and have been in decline ever since. The Vietnam War also consolidated the Left’s grip on the universities because college students could claim exemption from the draft. And even when exemption policies changed, theology majors were always exempt from the draft. Thousands of radical Leftists with no religious vocation attended seminaries during the period of the Vietnam War to resist the draft, and ended up subverting the religious institutions in which they eventually became ordained.

Simply put, for the past fifty years, white persons of European descent have mostly been without religious and intellectual leadership — and yet man remains a religious creature. He yearns for intellectual and spiritual truth. An abiding idea that has permeated the Western conscience since the time of the ancient Greeks has been the search for the truth. Truth-seeking is one of the most distinguishing characteristics of the West. “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” is not just one of Jesus’ utterances in John 2; it is the underlying basis of our legal system, the scientific method, and even the concept of free speech. The Christian belief in the unwavering nature of God was an extremely important factor in the development of modern science that is rooted in discovering those laws of nature which are universally applicable.

Now we come to that White Nationalist bugaboo: the U-word, universal, defined as including or covering all or a whole collectively or distributively, without limit or exception, especially: (1) something available equitably to all members of a society, such as universal health coverage; (2a) present or occurring everywhere; (2b) existent or operative everywhere or under all conditions, as in universal cultural patterns; (3a) embracing a major part or the greatest portion (as of humankind), such as the idea of a universal state or universal practices; (3b) comprehensively broad and versatile, such as a universal genius; (4a) affirming or denying something in all members of a class, or of all values of a variable; (4b) denoting every member of a class using a universal term; and (5) something adaptable or adjustable to meet varied requirements (as of use, shape, or size), as in a universal gear cutter or a universal remote control.

Yes, Christianity is a religion that seeks to convert all humans. In this sense, it is universal. But there is absolutely nothing in Christian theology that commands, recommends, or even considers the notion of one-world government or open borders. In fact, Christianity is mostly unconcerned with temporal governments, since its emphasis is on the afterlife. “Render unto Caesar” — which can be understood simply as obey the law — is hardly the clarion call of an SJW calling on the Antifa to physically attack political opponents.

There is a great deal of confusion among non-Christians and Christians alike about the “universalism” of the Great Commission, that is, the commandment by Christ to spread Christianity throughout the world, to all nations. The word “nation” always appears in the plural. There is nothing in the Bible to support open borders, unlimited immigration, or to deny the right of a sovereign nation to control its borders. In fact, there is support for exactly the opposite. The Tower of Babel story, for example, strongly suggests that the division of humanity into distinct states based on linguistic, ethnic, and racial identities is divinely ordered.

It is also amusing that whenever Leftists try to use scriptural references to support their ideological positions, they use only half of the appropriate passage and/or quote things woefully out of context. Yes, it is true that the Holy Family fled Nazareth and hid out for a while in Egypt. The estimates of their stay in Egypt range on the low end from two weeks to the high end of several years. In a sense, they could be considered to be refugees. But the Holy Family went home. And while they were in Egypt, they behaved themselves. They did not insult or take advantage of the Egyptians, nor did they attempt to replace the indigenous population of Egypt with Nazarenes. Also, Leftists forget that during Christ’s lifetime, all of the Middle East was a part of the Roman Empire and was essentially one country, so the flight from Nazareth to Egypt was more akin to a hurricane victim from Florida staying in Virginia for a little while until the danger has subsided and he can go home. The Flight to Egypt, therefore, provides no support for open borders or unlimited acceptance of refugees.

Make no mistake about it: The restoration of sanity, and theological and intellectual rigor, to institutional Christianity will be a long and arduous task, not unlike those tasks we face with restoring every other Western institution that has been corrupted and weaponized against the white race. The benefits of a restored and white-friendly Christian Church will be enormous, however:

  • Renewed emphasis on the family and traditional gender roles/identities: The family unit headed by two parents of the opposite sex (with strong fathers taking the lead) is the cornerstone of a white Christian society. This will strengthen white society in general and help reduce any number of social ills currently afflicting whites as a result of multiculturalism. Unlike Islam, Christianity is not misogynistic, but recognizes that men and women have different roles in life that are rooted in biology. Freed from feminism, Christian women are able to be feminine and thereby affirm their natalist desires. More Christianity, more white births.
  • Traditional, masculine-dominated Christianity will tend to mitigate the proliferation of soyboys and metrosexuals. Gender confusion will be treated as the mental disorder that it actually is.
  • The restoration of theological, liturgical, and catechetical standards will do much to increase intellectual rigor in all aspects of white society. We need to be reminded that universities began their existence as cathedral schools, and that some of the greatest works of the human (that is, white) mind were written by men such as St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas. It may also come as a shock to many believing Christians today that in the past, great preachers were known for their intellectual prowess, and that sermons were actually published not only because of their theological and philosophical rigor, but also for the quality of their prose. And, of course, many of the greatest works of art, music, and architecture were those for use in the service of Christianity. The spiritual health of the entire white nation will be improved when white Christians abandon the sappy sounds of folk masses and worship bands celebrated in churches that look like Soviet-era brutalist apartment blocks, and instead perform Bach cantatas in churches that are both beautiful and sublime. White people who are exposed on a weekly basis to the greatest works of art and music will come to despise the negro-dominated pop culture that has done so much to destroy moral and aesthetic standards.
  • The restoration of institutional Christianity will actively work against the subversion of white society by Jewish interests. When Christians are disabused of the inanity of dispensationalism and once again realize that Jews are responsible for the murder of Christ, and that God’s covenant with the Jews no longer obtains, this will do much to restore sanity to American foreign policy. It will also make it easier to employ legal measures (such as anti-trust laws) to contain and reverse the pernicious influence of Jews in media and entertainment, the legal system, the financial sector, Big Pharma, and pornography.
  • The restoration of institutional Christianity will also bring about an overall return to rationality and a rejection of emotionalism. Ironically, a sense of the numinous is anything but emotional. There is a very big difference between mysticism and emotionalism. True religious experience is a rational realization that one does not have all of the answers and that one cannot go through life as an autonomous individual bereft of all community, be it the communion of the saints or as part of a human community. And in the long run, the “quest for community,” as Robert Nisbet so eloquently put it,[2] is at the heart of the White Nationalist struggle. A sense of mystery is not only part and parcel of the religious experience, it is also behind all intellectual discourse, even that of science. It seems to me, for example, that when I hear physicists discuss quantum mechanics or string theory, I hear discussions that are more related to metaphysics than physics. For the rational white man, there is a sense of wonder, a curiosity about the unknown, and a realization of the vastness and complexity of the universe that simultaneously urges him forward as it puts his individual experience of it into perspective. The Leftist-inspired dumbing-down of America has led to a situation in which ideas are not discussed rationally, and like two-year olds, most people experience the world in a solipsistic manner. People emote rather than think, and no problem was ever solved by emoting. The political arena, the churches, and institutions of learning are no longer centers in which ideas and solutions are discussed in order to seek out the truth; instead, they have become “safe spaces” where lies are deliberately told to save fragile adults who have the emotional maturity of two-year olds from unpleasant truths. For these emotionally-stunted “adults,” there is no community to be had. There is no possibility of experiencing the numinous. There is only the continuous demand for the satiation of desires, and violent responses when those demands are not immediately met.

In the end, I think that it will be harder to create a white homeland without Christianity than it will be with a restored institutional Church. White people need every institution that can bind us together. We need the community that a strong Church can support, and we need a shared vision of the world that a restored Church can inspire. Above all, we need institutions that are committed to the truth — all truths, theological, philosophical, political, and biological. And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Now there’s a motto for White Nationalism.

Notes

[1] For more on this, see Fr. Felix Sarda y Salvany, Liberalism Is a Sin (Charlotte: TAN Books, 1899 [reprint 1993]).

[2] Robert Nisbet, The Quest for Community: A Study in the Ethics of Order & Freedom (New York: Oxford University Press, [1953] 1969)

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24 Comments

  1. Elenka
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    The decline of mainline Protestantism since WWII exactly coincides with the ordination of women.

  2. Alfred Crisp
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Christianity’s stance on White nationalism is undefined. Christianity deals with matters of the eternal soul; whereas White nationalism is a response to physical circumstance. Imagine a (physically possible) world where only White people exist: White nationalism is no longer relevant – yet, the soul remains, as does the question of eternity. Christianity and White nationalism shouldn’t be referenced in support of each other; they are unrelated, they are non-contradictory. One can be Christian, White nationalist, neither, or both. Personally, I am Christian, and I support the right of people-groups, however associated, to form nations, including on the basis of race, with personal preference towards a free, White, nation.

    Rant: In software engineering, there is an anti-pattern called “coupling”, where an engineer would potentially program two unrelated tasks to execute together. For example, he might program “open curtains” alongside “look at sunset”, because, in one scenario, they are related, but, if one executes the task, “look at sunset”, while outdoors, then “open curtains” is not necessary, and may even be harmful. It is human tendency to couple unrelated ideas. Coupling is responsible for many thought errors. It is why the left thinks “Nazi” when they see a “MAGA” hat. It is why White nationalists think “plague” when they hear “Christianity”. It is why White nationalists think “essential” when they hear “Christianity”.

  3. Russell Womack
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    This was a great read. Keep up the content

  4. Niko
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    “The Tower of Babel story, for example, strongly suggests that the division of humanity into distinct states based on linguistic, ethnic, and racial identities is divinely ordered.”

    I keep seeing this argument, but I don’t get that from the Babel story. It’s not a story of God saying, “hey, I’m a great and good God and I say people should be different, so it is so and it is good and divine.” That’s obviously not the point of the story at all.

    In the story of the Tower of Babel, God punishes humans for their sin of arrogance and hubris by seperating them. The natural order of things before they sinned–by building a tower to reach heaven– was a unified humanity. In fact, God disunifies them so they are less powerful and this is obviously characterized as a punishment and a curse.

    There is at least one very consistent theme in Torah; humans defy God and so he punishes them with some semi-permenant or permanent handicap. These punishments are not seen so much as “divinley ordained,” because that would imply they are good in themselves for some reason; rather they are seen as divine curses from a wrathful, jealous, and vengeful God.

    So implying the “nations” are divinley ordained to be separate (and many add this means the separation goes on forever and ever, even in the afterlife) is very misleading. It was a divine punishment and a divine handicap on humanity– according to the Jews. And wouldn’t these curses be lifted if and when humanity redeems itself? The Jesus story could easily be read as a roadmap towards lifting these curses, either in heaven or on earth after some millenniarian event. And that’s not even an antimonian argument!

    • Greg Johnson
      Posted November 28, 2018 at 8:50 am | Permalink

      This is a very good argument. Perhaps you can expand it into a short article, since it deserves to stand on its own and circulate more.

    • Templar
      Posted November 28, 2018 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

      There is at least one very consistent theme in Torah; humans defy God and so he punishes them with some semi-permenant or permanent handicap. These punishments are not seen so much as “divinley ordained,” because that would imply they are good in themselves for some reason; rather they are seen as divine curses from a wrathful, jealous, and vengeful God.

      That’s the Jews for you. Christian traditions are rather different.

    • Julian von Pannwitz
      Posted November 28, 2018 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

      Except it was God’s plan from the beginning that people after Adam should spread around the entire Earth and (presumably) become diversified, as evidenced in the Adamic Covenant (Gen. 1:28) and reaffirmed to Noah (Gen. 9:1). Why would God promise a wide-spead humanity inhabiting different nations to two of His favourites if this were intended as a curse? In actual fact, these promises are made just after God blesses them!

      The founders of Babel went directly against God’s commission by gathering in one specific location and trying to absorb humanity into one sphere of government. God is right to punish them as this clearly goes against His stated intentions. You are right to say God imposes a handicap on humanity after Babel, but the text explicitly describes a linguistic confusion as the punishment (one that was partially remedied at Pentecost in Acts 2). I challenge you to come up with one fragment of scripture that states ethnic or cultural diversity was part of the punishment for Babel. Of course, this cannot be done as it would contradict God’s commission to Adam.

      Actualy the exact opposite is true. God repeatedly warns Israel and Judah after Solomon (i.e. in their decadent period) that they will be punished by being invaded by foreigners and be absorbed by the coming hordes. This is to say they will be destroyed as a people and lose their identity (i.e. “torn up root and branch”). God punishes no less than ten of the tribes of Jacob with this for turning to other Gods. On the other hand, strict customs of segregation were established by Moses before Israel’s decline. what do we have to stack-up against this to say God thinks it’s a good thing for nations to be absorbed into a homogeneous mass? Please let me know if you find anything, because I can’t find it in the Bible.

      But we don’t even need Scripture, creation tesitfies this all on its own. If God really is the author of the world–and I’m sure He is–have you ever seen an artist who delights more in variation than Him? Just go and look at the natural landscapes, or the epic diversity of space brought to us by the Hubble telescope, and your own eyes will refute you! I just can’t look at nature or the variations of culture in the world and say these are accidents or curses. These are good things, and all good things come from God.

  5. James O'Meara
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    Render unto Caesar is only the first step. We need to completely eviscerate all reference to the outside world. No political or ethical implications at all (Zionism included). If they agree to that, they can keep their vestments, crosses, scriptures etc., and we don’t have to bother reviving paganism. Everybody wins!

    Neville Goddard:

    “The Bible has no reference at all to any persons that ever existed, or to any events that ever occurred upon earth . . . It isn’t a secular history. It is divine history, the history of salvation. It is all psychological . . . Every man is destined to discover that scripture is his autobiography. It’s not written about individual beings like Jesus Christ, Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and so on who lived unnumbered years ago, but about the individual you! . . . Everything in the Bible takes place in the mind of man: the tree, the city, the people, everything. There is not a statement made in the Bible that does not represent some attribute of the human mind. They are all personifications of the mind and not things within the world. Consciousness is the one and only reality.”

  6. 21st Century WN
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    “The response by many White Nationalists to the spiritual collapse of Christianity in the West has been to write off the religion as a useless relic of the past that has no place in the coming ethnostate.”

    Although I am not a Christian, I tend to like them as people – especially Mormons. That said, a glaring example of white nationalism attempting to inject “Christianity” into the narrative was that of Matt Heimbach of the now defunct Traditionalist Workers Party. That experiment ended in a huge explosion of hypocrisy when Mr. Heimbach practiced his self-professed “Christian values” by banging his father-in-law’s wife while beating and choking his own. And there are many other examples. The moral of the story should be: practice Christianity if you want, but do so in private. In other words, do not use it as a public platform for our ideas. Because there are simply too many glaring hypocrites like Heimbach out there who will only make a lie of it.

    White nationalism (at this stage) should only be about how, and by what means, to ensure the preservation of the white race on this planet. Leave out all religion, “Nazis”, ramblings about “Jews”, and all the other dead end pursuits that too many in the WN movement follow into intellectual oblivion.

  7. alexei
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 6:11 am | Permalink

    “In fact, the long march through the Church actually predates Gramsci’s formulation of the concept.”
    You don’t say… Long, long before him, one of Marx’s intellectual idols, Saint-Simon, recognized that Christianity, far from being the enemy, is actually a perfect ally for the cause of global socialism.
    And you had a number of big name Catholic thinkers who argued for an alliance with Marxism. Not to mention nutcases like de Chardin, endgoal of whose “Christogenesis” means global transhumanist hivemind, entire mankind becoming one mind.

  8. Fróði Midjord
    Posted November 28, 2018 at 2:03 am | Permalink

    This article upholds the strong, Christian tradition of ignoring the fundamental criticism that has been aimed as Christianity as a worldview, and pretending that all problems have appeared only over the last few decades because of sinister outside forces. But the problem is not recent behaviour of the Christian churches; Christianity itself is the problem.

    Nothing fundamentally changed with Vatican II in 1965 (and you can’t blame Protestantism). The Vatican attacked National Socialism already in 1937, because racism, because it wasn’t compatible with the Universalist, cosmopolitan worldview of Christianity.

    The first Catholic president of the U.S., John F. Kennedy, started affirmative action in that country, and his family together with the Jewish lobby opened the borders to mass invasion in 1965 — the most disastrous betrayal in American history. The good men who fought for the restrictive 1924 immigration act, on the contrary, were WASPs.

    The darling of current trad Catholics, E. Michael Jones, has repeatedly said that ethnicity is defined by language, not ancestry. True to the Faith, he claims that race is irrelevant. Can’t blame that on Vatican II. Your ingroup is not who you are, your ancestry, but what you believe, your loyalty to the rabbi Jesus. And Catholicism is majority non-white (and that will never change, nor do Catholics, trad or not, WANT it to change). You do the math. 

    As long as the Dindus who replace us do the Lain mass and don’t have abortions, all will be fine…

    Nietzsche’s critique of Christianity for giving birth to the self-destructive worldview of liberalism and (Marxist) socialism, was written many decades before Vatican II, and is still valid today.

    We are in the current mess because of our value system, and that value system is Christian. It is the origin of the “proposition nation” idea: the origin of civic (Faith) nationalism.

    This dead horse has already been flogged in the comments here, but apparently needs more flogging. https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/12/the-christian-question-in-white-nationalism-2/

    (I’ll not even comment on the preposterous assertion that Christian belief in God has been an “extremely important factor in the development of modern science”.)

    • alexei
      Posted November 28, 2018 at 6:18 am | Permalink

      Whenever you listed to Jones for a longer time, he inevitably starts to smack of certain intellectual background. I don’t know anything about his history, but he leaves an impression of someone who was, at one point, very much a doctrinaire Marxist and never completely grew out of it. Certainly, whatever he speaks about, he’ll eventually employ socialist categories.

    • Quintilian
      Posted November 28, 2018 at 6:51 am | Permalink

      And yet, there was Father Jozef Tiso, a Roman Catholic priest, who was President of the Nazi-created Slovak Republic from 1939-1945. Franco in Spain and Salazar in Portugal were both ardent Christians and ethno-nationalists and enjoyed enormous support from the Catholic Church. Let us not forget that the two countries that have done the most to assert ethno-nationalism—that is, Hungary and Poland—have boldly asserted Christianity as an essential part of their ethnic and racial identity. Intelligent people try to imitate successful people. Why is it that so many American white nationalists glorify Hitler—who, we have to admit, was very unsuccessful other than coming to power—while they disparage the successful examples of Falangist Spain and Portugal and the contemporary examples of Poland and Hungary? There is a strong connection between the Christian worldview of the unchanging character of God and the scientific search for universal natural laws. [Darn it, there’s that pesky U-word again. I guess that white nationalists will have to forego science due to the universal applicability of its laws.] If you view God as unchanging in nature, it is logical to seek out unchanging—or universal—laws explaining nature. It’s interesting that the explosion of scientific discovery began in the West in the late Middle Ages, you know, that period referred to as the “Age of Faith.” And, of course, Isaac Newton, Blaise Pascal, Nicholas Copernicus, Carolus Linneaus, Johannes Kepler, among many other trail-blazing scientists, viewed their scientific work as being rooted in their Christian faith. But you’ve got a point. I have to admit that those amazing scientific discoveries of the chthonically organized and organic pagan Vikings—oops, there weren’t any. It’s surprising that Odin, Thor, and Loki weren’t able to inspire any great science while somehow the yahoo Christians managed to create universities, create scientific revolutions, and dominate the world. Something that anti-Christian Odinists, worshippers of Baal, and Holy Howlers at the Moon need to develop is the subtlety to understand that a concept can be both simultaneously universal in the abstract and particular in its application. Take the biblical injunction to “Love thy neighbor as thyself.” Wishing well of others does not mean that one wishes to have any further connection with the aforementioned others. Personally, I would like to see people of African descent be happy and productive people—in Africa. The same goes for Mexicans in Mexico, Guatemalans in Guatemala, etc., etc. Remember, even Carl Schmitt—He of Blessed Memory—said that one doesn’t have to hate one’s enemies and that one could even have a friend who is a member from the enemy side. This from the person who famously viewed sovereignty as being rooted in the friend/enemy distinction. I guess Schmitt turns out to be a Christian cuck after all and the pagans in our movement will need to retroactively strip Schmitt of his Nazi Party membership.

      • Fróði Midjord
        Posted November 28, 2018 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

        I assume this ludicrous theory about science comes from E. M. Jones, since he can never stop yapping about the Logos. Only, the idea of Logos, the idea that the universe has an ordered structure accessible to human reason, has nothing at all to do with Christianity. It comes from Stoic philosophy, which predates Christianity by centuries — and Stoic philosophy happened to be trendy among the intellectuals of Rome when (and long before) Christians started arriving from Palestine. Those uncouth, European, pagan, barbarian ancestors of ours that you so like to disparage…

        But the origin of the scientific mindset is even more appropriately credited to the empirical methods of Aristotle and other (again, pagan) ancient philosophers (i.e., conclusions based on systematic observations). Not exactly demonstrated by the Christians who desperately reject modern findings in biology and science that are not compatible with bronze age Hebrew scribblings.

        Every Catholic I have ever discussed with has failed to grasp the difference between Christians (people who happen to live in a place and time under Christian hegemony) and Christianity (the worldview), which I pointed to in the very first sentence of my comment above. And so they try to vindicate Christianity by naming a Christian who has been good or creative… But no one has ever claimed that Europeans immediately lost their creative abilities when they converted to Christianity — that would be quite absurd. Again, of course there have been Christian persons who have also been nationalists and not bad poeple, but the Christian worldview is at its core hostile to nationalism, because the world we see today is the end result of the Christian value system.

        It is amusing that Christians will always resort to ethnomasochism when attempting to defend the Faith: to deride their own ancestors in order to bolster the image of Christianity, thus proving my very point. And so, I am forced to repeat what I have made clear elsewhere:

        Europeans produced brilliant spirituality, art, philosophy, literature, and science for many centuries before Christianity came to Europe, we continued doing so under Christian hegemony, and after the death of Christianity. We reached all kinds of cultural heights without the aid of Christianity — we did just fine. In fact, Christianity needed Europeans in order to take part in any significant culture at all, not the other way around. Everything of value in Christian culture, it got from us, but we got ethnomasochism in return.

        • Quintilian
          Posted November 28, 2018 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

          No, the theory about the Christian origins of the scientific method come from ethnomasochistic, small-brained yahoos like Sir Isaac Newton, who wrote approximately 1.3 million words on religious topics. Yes, Stoics did have many beliefs that mimcked Christianity and rednecked know-nothings like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas did value very much the thinking of Plato and Aristotle. You deliberately miss the point of my argument. I am not saying that there needs to be a state religion, nor am I saying that you cannot continue to worship Odin or Baal. It’s just that white nationalists are always going on about the need for an organic state and want to restore white society and white institutions, but fail to recognize the organic relationship between Christianity and European civilization. Are we to eliminate every institution because it has become cucked by the left? If so, there will be no universities, government, libraries, museums, opera houses, sporting activities, or boy scouts in the white ethnostate. Go ahead and howl at the moon and worship whatever spirit or demon you please. But if you want to win politically, you are going to have to offer white people, the vast majority of whom are still Christians, something other than Latter-Day Druidism or Nazi revivals of Ultima Thule festivities.

      • Robert
        Posted November 28, 2018 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

        Most WN heathens recognize good deeds made by white christians in the past. But socalled WN christians always piss on their ancestors before christianity, this is another proof that socalled WN christiand always put their faith in the jewish carpenter above their race. So ancient Rome and sncirnt Greece didn’t contribute anything to our civilisation? If you believe that you are either ignorant or antiwhite either way you shouldnt call yourself a nationalist. The nordic peoples were conquering most of Europa with some of the greatest ships, navigation and weapons of their time, that you disrespect them to advance your jewish fairytales says alot about you.

      • Niko
        Posted November 28, 2018 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

        Maybe it’s my WASP nature, but honestly the Protestant critique of Catholicism is essentially correct. I was just reading about the Puritans today. They were dead on with all sorts of attacks on Catholicism as having been soft on paganism and actually sublimating pagan practices and worldviews.

        The fact is, Roman Catholicism was at it’s zenith when it was the furthest from actual textual basis in the bible itself. And now everyone can read the bible for themselves. The genie is out of the bottle.

    • Minsc
      Posted November 28, 2018 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

      re: Jones
      If someone wants a good exampleof what Midjord wrote, go and watch an interview with him about his book Barren Metal on YT. At one point he goes into labour theory and why, in his view, Germany and Tanzania had such different histories. If I were to write what he said, people would think that I’m trying to make him look bad. Just watch it.
      I’m writing this because he is invoked by commenters here often enough. Comrade Jones is no ally of ours, not even close.

  9. Posted November 27, 2018 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    Cogent arguments, Quintilian.

    Was anything more catastrophic for Western Civilization than the Reformation? Should we forget the Christian (usually Catholic) basis of the movements founded by Arcand, Degrelle, Szalasi, de Rivera, Coughlin, Tiso, Petain, Codreanu…?

    In regard to the Catholic church being subverted, Look Magazine published a valuable article at the time of Vatican II : “How the Jews changed Catholic thinking,” which can be googled.

    Can the Right (and does it even need to) do better than the Catholic social doctrine that motivated the acts of the Church prior to being subverted by liberals, and provided the ideological foundation for resistance to Marxism, liberalism and capitalism – based on the teachings of Christ (very much a Galilean, not a Judean)?

  10. Vehmgericht
    Posted November 27, 2018 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    The Church of England, the established church in England, headed by the monarch, exhibits this phenomenon in an advanced form.

    This is a declining institution, no longer able to fill churches (which are sold off, often to be converted into mosques). Annual synods are dominated by moves to install gay clergy: one suspects the transgender agenda is not far behind. This is of course repellant to the remaining traditional Christians in the church, but no matter as the hierarchy has been hijacked by activists.

    Sadly for the Catholic Church, it seems that Pope Francis is bent upon commencing the same ruinous path, in the name of justice and modernity. Yet while European Christendom destroys itself from within, Islam, which brooks no such accommodations, is gathering strength …

  11. expatriot
    Posted November 27, 2018 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    The biggest problem with the teachings of Christ is not the universalism but the valorization of victimhood: the idea that victimhood confers morally superiority on the victim. But apologists for Christianity never want to discuss the actual teachings of Christ. It’s telling that the glory days of Christianity were a period of time when nobody but a few monks actually read the Bible. Everything started going downhill when guys like Calvin started reading the thing and trying to make it make sense. What does it say about a religion that it achieves optimal results only when its holy book is ignored?

  12. Traddles
    Posted November 27, 2018 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Amen! Thank you for this well-reasoned piece, Quintilian.

    Where do I sign up? I’m sure I’m not the only one who hungers for old-fashioned, intellectually-based Christian institutions.

  13. BroncoColorado
    Posted November 27, 2018 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    A well balanced article and one to which even Dr William Pierce despite his profound reservations regarding Christianity would likely give an approving nod. The future ‘religion’ or binding agent for people of our WN ethno states is a mystery the passage of time will solve, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves. However, of one thing we can be fairly certain, namely the Churches, all of them, will become more stridently anti-White and Leftist in both ‘theology’ and practice. This will cause schism within the various Churches prior to a general collapse in the institutions of Christianity. We are presently observing the first tremors of schism within the previously granite-like facade of Catholicism.

  14. Robert
    Posted November 27, 2018 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    If we look at the movement as a microverse of the future ethnostate in regard to faith, I believe it’s quite representative. Most WNs are atheist, a minority is Christian and another minority is heathen.

    Those who are atheist are propably as unlikely to believe in Yoshua as in Wotan or Zeus. However the heathen stories are atleast made up from the beliefs of our ancestors. The old and the new testament is mainly jewish stories.

    Names like Ishmael, Abraham, Moses etc are middle-eastern, we might as well claim that Karl Marx is a part of our heritage. Another difference is that most devout Christian WNs will always put their faith above the fight for their race, while most heathens or atheists would not.

    Ofcourse we need to remember the good parts of our history as Christians, just as we should remember the things that were good in Soviet Russia or the liberal democracies we live in today.

    The best option for the movement as a whole is to focus on the rational and moral arguments for the ethnostate. When that part is secure Christians, heathens or whatever can do their best to convince their countrymen to follow their respective faith.

    It’s hard enough to convince most people of the validity of race that can be proven by science or just by observation. Trying to convince the masses of faith in God or gods that has no base in either science or observation is futile.

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