A ring was removed? why?

Here's the exact note I received (admin's name removed to avoid heat from the higher-ups):

Submission removal: With This Ring...
Sent By: [Name Removed] to Synwolf On: October 11th, 2012 11:11

I mist issue you my congratulations, but I must also inform you that this submission was removed for violation of the Acceptable Upload Policy concerning photos of items that were manufactured neither for you or by you.

Manufactured & Collected Items - Images that focus on collections of mass-manufactured/commercially available items may not be uploaded unless they were personally developed by or for the user. This includes items such as DVDs, games and consoles, toys, firearms/weapons, vehicles, computers and other electronics, plush/inflatable animals or objects, posters, clothing or other commercial items.

What the hell is the POINT of rules like this?! What unspeakable horror are they trying to prevent, by not letting people upload photos of their own POSSESSIONS?! Not everything is about murry-purry furfaggotry and snuggly-wuggly yiffles--we're REAL people behind our fursonas, with lives and special events that they wish to celebrate and share with friends and watchers. How the FUCK does this harm ANYONE? X_X

that is the biggest load of Bullshit I've ever heard.

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's ridiculous. =/

Agreed. This is ridiculous. I may return to Deviant Art, despite the fact that site sucks balls and a lot of fur stuff can't be submitted. I liked the rules back in the days when we could upload our possessions. What's next? We can't submit pictures of ourselves if we're not in a fursuit? I wouldn't be surprised.

It's getting pretty ridiculous, I'll say that much. =/

I guess they don't want folks posting a million photos that have something they purchased that they did not make. I removed my airsoft gun photos voluntarily some time ago to avoid this.

Makes perfect sense if you ask me.

It's the context that's insensitive. It's someone's -engagement ring-. Someone (me) wanting to share a very significant milestone of my life with people, out of a sense of joy. It's pretty callous to try and flaunt some bullshit "copyright protection" rule, when there's copyright infringement all OVER this site. Rule 34 much? =/

"this submission was removed for violation of the Acceptable Upload Policy concerning photos of items that were manufactured neither for you or by you."

How was that photo not "for you"? That's really weird...

I have to agree with you and everyone else on this. That's a bit hard to believe they would create a rule as such. I have seen countless others posted on here which would fall into that same category.

I mean I have recently started to wonder if dragoneer and the others are purposely trying to kill their site by all these off rules they been creating and enforcing. I have also heard there are one or two others who are creating new fan based sites to give FA a run for it's users.

I have decided to stop posting my photos and pictures here. Best way to avoid breaking a rule. But like so many others I have already started to seek out new places to go to for artwork loading spots.

Thats a load of crap. I got a pic of me wearing boxer shorts over my fur suit taken down, but yet a photo of me weith a jock strap over my fur suit is still up, and then ever other photo, im not wearing any thing over my fur suit thus making me NAKED!!! lol i don't get theri logic

Perhaps they were jealous :v

I'm just slowly getting so damn fed up with all the bullshit rules that don't have anything to do with copyright infringement or preventing harassment/theft in some way. THOSE I can respect and agree with. But then there are so many rules that are so absolutely pointlessly ASININE that they just boggle the imagination. >_<

I read that post up there and that describes like a bunch of posts I've seen on there.

Just..

What.

Inconsistencies Dx

It's pretty much amounting up to "if it isn't an animal and/or we can't fap to it, GTFO". Furries aren't just "yiff-yaff, gimme scritches!", we're actual PEOPLE, too. With lives that have more value to them than just what fursuits we wear, what furry art we draw, and/or what fur cons we go to. They're basically validating and feeding all of the worst furry stereotypes that non-furs say about us. "They only care about things that are related to furry stuff!"

Welp ... way to prove 'em right, FA!

The fandoms.

:I

There's a bunch of crap like this in the Brony fandom as well.

Crazy silly stupid obsessed people :<

Guh, so many anger feels. T.T;;

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbri.....5FV1qcb5h6.jpg

:I

damn....why cant there be a "like" button, for this comment

Because despite all the privacy-abusing horseshit, there are some aspects in which Facebook is superior to all other social-networking sites, LOL.

thats true, and to be honest i feel for you. There's some things in this fandom that get me irritated, like the lack of originality, and pigeonholing everyone into liking certain things.

Btw, How's Homestead? hear the Ferrari's running around there, last week? x3

LOL, well, I'm not living at the new house yet, still in the process of doing all the conversions and finishing up all the painting/landscaping stuff. We prolly won't be in there til at -least- the second week of November, if all goes well. =3

good luck with all the NASCAR traffic at that time.

LOL, I actually doubt I'll hear it, seeing as how the neighborhood I'll be living in is pretty damn secluded (it's more on the southmost border of what could still be called Homestead, rather than smack-dab IN it). Nearest shopping center is about 10 mins away. XD

cool. I usually love going there, but for NASCAR - I avoid like the plague cause of all the traffic. the population literally swells for those 3 days

Now how do THEY know your engagement ring wasn't made especially for YOU? DO you know how many pieces of jewelry are made specifically for the person purchasing it??? How in the name of Moses do they know?? Is this Admin a jewelry expert? Please!

Our wedding rings were made LIKE the one in the case BUT I had changes that made it specifically mine. Changes that I'm sure no one did.

And not even just that. The ring was PURCHASED for ME. How does it break any rules to display something that I now OWN, after legitimately purchasing it? I'm not claiming the -copyright- on the ring design. That © at the bottom of the image there? That doesn't say "Syn owns the copyright on the ring model", it says "Syn owns the copyright to THAT PHOTOGRAPH". Are these people fucking -retarded-?! @_@;;

Their comment to you makes absolutely no sense. At least YOU have the love and the ring to prove it.

Thankfully, that exact picture is on my Facebook, but still. It was a painful jab for them to do that to me, for LITERALLY no valid reason. It's a bullshit rule, and they know it.

weasyl.com baby ;D

I'm damn tempted, I'll admit. XD

For the time being, I'm kinda waiting and seeing how the community develops, as well as how the site staff handles things and keeps the site running, before I make any decisions. I got all super-excited when IB first started up and jumped right on board straight away, only for it to turn out to be a crapshoot "cub-club", LOL.

So I'mma let this one marinate for a bit before I go diving in head-first. X3 If I like what I see, once it's out of beta and it settles in a bit, then I'll definitely make and use an account there.

Yeah I'm so far loving the shit out of it (and when they re enable invites I'll be happy to spare you one). I'm trying to get as many people to sign up so that it can THRIVE

If nothin' else, I'd definitely use my invite to snag my username there, til I decide whether or not to start uploadin' there. X3

Should least like you said snag your name. I did so cause I know to people that work over there and they both wonderful people :D

IB became such a dump because one of the admins only uploaded the cub crap. When you have someone like that as one of the main founders, shit like that will, sadly, attract a strange crowd bent on one thing :/

You really should swing on over the Weasyl. It's such a nice site. Everything is so clean, the admins are on top of their bugs and the 'commissions' tab actually works! I don't really browse through recent submissions but from what I have seen, not an underage upload in site :3

You CAN get into beta right now IF you donate. Otherwise wait until it's out of beta, which I will do because I refuse to monetarily support any art site, let alone a furry one.

Yeah, that's the thing, I'm about as flat-broke as I can get. Any and all windfall "income" basically has to go straight to either food or gas. I even had to let my WoW account go inactive, til the financial situation re-stabilizes. >_<;;

So either until invites are working or it goes out of beta, I don't mind waiting. Not like I ever post very often anyway. =P

It's a little extreme; but they're just scared that THEY can get sued because it's a manufactured product, with a design featured by another company. hosted on their website. I'm just glad they still haven't outlawed images of characters based on pre-existing properties. That'd prolly crush the fandom though.

It's still somewhat pointless. They go after the stuff that's TRULY benign, but they freely allow stuff that (if they were REALLY all that worried about getting cease and desist notices) COULD get them in legal hot water.

Picture of someone's engagement ring, that for all they know might be a custom commissioned piece = Class-A threat; delete, delete, delete!

Fetish ridden freak-porn of copyrighted characters that AREN'T public domain = A-okay!

All they're doing is pissing off their userbase, and not actually problem-solving. It's like they're just doing it to say "Hey, we do TO delete stuff, watch!", rather than actually covering their asses. S'like covering every square inch of yourself in armor, but leaving exposed the one spot that's most likely to get hit, LOL.

Never said they were executing their thought-process WELL >XD I agree with you.

Well-known fact: Admins can't brain. Critical case of The Dumbs.

That fact is a lie, I used to be a game Admin and I brained just fine :D

No, no, I meant the FA kind, LOL.

I've known PLENTY of other admins, outside FA, that were great. Hell, not even ALL the FA admins are bad, but the far outnumber the good. =/

True, true X3

If that were teh case. Ford would sue for pictures of Mustangs on facebook.

'Xactly. XD

You'd think the suit would be invalid; the item in question is not for sale; and it's image appears with the intent to generate interest in the product itself; becoming free advertisement by way of reaching more people online than could ever be reached in physical passing.

There is no copyright infringement with a photo like that; especially since no money is involved, and every outcome would solely benefit the company that made the ring. On top of that; there is no "CLEARLY STATED DECLARATION OF NO PHOTO REPRODUCTION". Simple, cut and dried.

The Truth; (which I love to flaunt since the First Amendment allows me to); is that since 'neer has the site in his own back pocket; he feels he's free to change the TOS as he sees fit. He's acting like a huge chain store with a whole STABLE of lawyers which make their money simply by driving the store chain nearly insane with 'What if' lawsuits. It's a bullsh*t sandwich; and 'neer is perpetuating it through ignorance. It's like Wal-Mart and their 'OMG Copyright infringement if we print it' bullcrap. BUT; since they had to point out that extremely unlikely lawsuit scenario; and it DID become a common 'concern'; now it's a solid part of their TOS. To be blunt; Stupid is as Stupid does; with a little help from its friends. (This goes back to reflect on previous completely ridiculous additions to the TOS; like instantly calling nearly any canon character from Sonic a 'cub'; despite horrendous evidence to the contrary; but that's a whole other rant.)

This, this, fucking THIS, so damn hard. ^^^^^^^^^^^^

And it's all in vain, because they still freely allow copyrighted franchises and franchise characters to be depicted in pornographic situations, all over their site. Regardless of whether or not said characters are legal age, they're still the properly of their respective creators (most of whom I'm PRETTY damn sure wouldn't be too keen about seeing their creations getting violated by tentacle monsters or shitting in diapers while sucking each other off, or whatever other WTF-inducing weirdo porn is floating around on this site).

That CONVENIENTLY is still allowed, while all the completely harmless stuff receives worse treatment than Jews in a concentration camp, LOL.

Aye. Worst part about most of it is some people hide behind a messed-up take on "Freedom of Expression" or "Artistic License". "Fanart" is relative; and the errata concerning it gets a little vague and wonky; which allows for some simply abhorrent stuff to get through... "Personal taste"; meh; whatever. I'd drive a hatchet through the skull of a lot of these 'cubbers'; who, to me, are part of the 'hanger-on' group of the Fandom (which sadly makes up a pretty sizeable portion). The vast difference between a cub (a little kid) and someone much more in the appropriate range (like 17 or so) is blatantly obvious; and the random fanbase for hardcore Cream art just...seriously WTFingF?!

(to cubbers) Kids are Kids, people; not sexy. If you look at some 5-year old and start getting all warm and tingly; do us all a favor; dip yourself in tar, set yourself ablaze, and then leap into the Grand Canyon. And when the rants of those (because I've hilariously been challenged on many such fetishes) who are kiddie-pr0n fans start heading this way; they may want to note the fact that Kiddie-pr0n-idolization comes from a root of feeling intimidated by peers of the selected gender, mostly out of a self-loathing or inferiority complex. This perceived intimidation; in turn; makes kids seem much more accepting; since they lack the mental and physical fortitude; and the level of judgement necessary to analyze and fully understand their situation. (Source: High "A" in College Psychology; years of personal research on human behavior) Know what that means; Cubbers? It means there is no 'special love' Bullsh*t you LOVE to rant on about; it's forceful abuse by taking advantage of those weaker than you, brought on through self-delusion. (Side note; the folks who came up with 'Toddlers in Tiaras' need to be shot; and then shot again)

(ANYway; back on track) Yeah; I'll admit I've got favorite characters; and yeah, I may enjoy some of the art made of them (and yeah; most of it would tweak out the original creators); but even I have limits XD It's like...how do I say this... It's like; to me, there's got to be a certain logic to it...you know what I mean? Like "Person A would likely get with Person B because they have a lot in common; and Person B falls within a lot of established original traits and beliefs of Person A". It's the "Person A gets with Person M; who is completely counter to Person A's established personality; Thing Q; which has 47 Wangs, spewing neon spooge everywhere, and regularly goes after Persons H,T,Y,42,N,N,N,N,N,N,N, and Bob, because they commissioned it." (the commission being simply the only reason for said image) It might be because I look at each image from an 'in-character' perspective. True, each character could, in theory, simply have some strange and twisted urge to just go sex crazy and boff just about whoever is the nearest and has a pulse (but it's highly unlikely; and is steered instead ONLY on a fleeting fantasy). Kinda why I don't have huge amounts of 'norty' pics with my character; he's not of the mind to just 'Yiff' everything and everyone; he knows there's a time and place for such things. (Not saying he doesn't have an imagination, of course ^^)



And "Badmouthing the Establishment"? Why Syn; that's what the First Amendment is all about ^^ You get slapped down for saying something about a site (that's not pointed squarely at another user to the point of slander/defamation [Ironic to note, however, the factual TRUTH cannot be stopped in such case]) and good 'ol Neer's gonna need a prayer; cuz he'll be heading to Federal Court ^^ If the TOS is actually listing that as a requirement of use; then they're leaving themselves wide open for lawsuits. (Sing-song) Irony-y-y-y-y.

I mean; sure; we've had some presidents totally screw up and break the First Amendment (cough cough Good 'ol G.W. cough); but they got away with it due to public ignorance.

(Source: Raging "A" in Politics; Huge Nerd-fan of the Constitution; especially in the Bill of Rights.)

All of my this. So very hard.

PREACH IT, BROTHA!

Digimon © Toei

Oh, the irony.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of those situations where either the admin that answered it had something against you or even whomever may have reported it.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, but in this case, I think this is just some "good lil' admin" enforcing a VERY bullshit "rule".