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Comely, on 28 Oct 2018 - 08:41 AM, said:

Because Kfans have learned the only useful method to get BigHit to actually do something when there's an issue going on. Tweeting the company won't ever solve anything wrong in other parts of the fandom.

I-fans’ diversity weakens us, even assuming enough of us had the willpower to effectively boycott, usually only certain segments get offended by certain things

I was going to keep my comments to myself but since this topic is still ongoing...

I think that Jimin knew just what he was wearing. Do I think him the devil? No, he was just insensitive and thoughtless. Many people are. Tbh, I didn't even realize something was wrong with the shirt and people pointed it out. I thought it was just historical facts on a shirt and that's it. But now that people pointed out how it seems like a celebration of the incident... Well, I stand corrected.

Do I think it warrants an apology? Not necessarily, unless it blows up more and the japanes fans or public actually call for it. It was offensive, but not something that was intended to offend on Jimin's part. It's not also something extraordinary or extreme. He's a celebrity too, in a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation. Also, sometimes silence is the best way to bury an issue.

jimseok, on 28 Oct 2018 - 04:22 AM, said:

idc how much you antis try to make some shit up the truth will come out just wait

and Innocent until proven guilty I will say that till the day I die I know Jimin would NEVER wear a shirt like that intentionally

 

he is not that type of person trust me please he really would not wear a shirt like that the most apolitical guy would fucking never

edit: can you all just WAIT for bighit/jimin to freaking say something?

did this user get banned just because she defended jimin?

pinkpanda_spirit, on 28 Oct 2018 - 08:45 AM, said:

did this user get banned just because she defended jimin?

Prolly a dupe. 

emile, on 28 Oct 2018 - 08:43 AM, said:

I-fans’ diversity weakens us, even assuming enough of us had the willpower to effectively boycott, usually only certain segments get offended by certain things

 

I do think I-fans have a hard time being organized to get anything done. It's funny considering international fanbases have 10 times more followers than korean ones... But to get BH's attention all you have to do is spam their mails and the fancafe. Maybe a hashtag if there's a real big issue involving the boys' reputation on Twitter... but otherwise I don't think they'll care much about what's going on. 

Map_Linh, on 28 Oct 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

Yes, they occupied Vietnam. As far as I know, many died because of famine bc of the shortage of food (since the Japanese took most of the rice).

Oh.. Thank you for that information..
I'm only know about War of Vietnam against USA..

they don't deserve their japanese popularity when their whole company is so ignorant on this issue

Edited by 1Q98, 28 October 2018 - 05:03 AM.

we love jimin who proud to be korean,bad fascist country japan

I had a skateboard that I rode for 3 months without realizing all of the graphic on it was related to drugs. I only started thinking about it when a friend pointed it out.

 

Korean liberation day t-shirt is fine. Having an atomic bomb reference on it is not.

 

Everything written on the t-shirt is in English. Jimin does not understand English to the point that he would understand what is said on the shirt. It's pretty common to see asians wear clothes that have questionable English text written on them be it political or not. The ones who wear them have no idea. Why didn't the stylist or Jimin himself put the puzzle pieces together? Maybe noone just paid attention. They wear thousands of shirts in a year, they are always in a rush and it is highly likely that they don't think about every small detail on their clothes when they are on their "off day".

 

Wearing this shirt was wrong but I don't think Jimin actually knew at that time what exactly was he wearing. My wild guess is, it wasn't intentional.

 

How to address this? 

I don't know, it's very difficult. Does he even have to?

 

If I had to explain my druggie skateboard:

I have never done drugs nor do I have any intention on doing them. I didn't realize what was on the board when I bought it. I just thought the colors were cool.

(not saying drugs and atomic bombs are on the same level, but you get what i mean)

Oof watch this get buried like it did the first time 

You have to be extremely dumb to not realize what that picture was about when you can see clearly it's a bomb (and not even something hidden behind colors and all, it's a clear picture on white background) and like other people said, this brand is famous for its references to korean history. There is no wayhe didn't knew

Personally, the best thing at this point is for everyone who has worn the shirt to acknowledge they were wrong wearing it. Either Jimin or the other idols because I think it is just as bad. It should not be worn by anyone, period.

I don't understand how such a shirt was even popular and how people thought it was a good idea to wear it. People were hurt and thought it was insensitive and they should be heard and their feeling should be taken seriously.

But I am afraid this is a damn if you do, damn if you don't situation and unfortunately I don't know if anything will happen.

TalkingSeaweed, on 28 Oct 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

I had a skateboard that I rode for 3 months without realizing all of the graphic on it was related to drugs. I only started thinking about it when a friend pointed it out.

Korean liberation day t-shirt is fine. Having an atomic bomb reference on it is not.

Everything written on the t-shirt is in English. Jimin does not understand English to the point that he would understand what is said on the shirt. It's pretty common to see asians wear clothes that have questionable English text written on them be it political or not. The ones who wear them have no idea. Why didn't the stylist or Jimin himself put the puzzle pieces together? Maybe noone just paid attention. They wear thousands of shirts in a year, they are always in a rush and it is highly likely that they don't think about every small detail on their clothes when they are on their "off day".

Wearing this shirt was wrong but I don't think Jimin actually knew at that time what exactly was he wearing. My wild guess is, it wasn't intentional.

How to address this?
I don't know, it's very difficult. Does he even have to?

If I had to explain my druggie skateboard:
I have never done drugs nor do I have any intention on doing them. I didn't realize what was on the board when I bought it. I just thought the colors were cool.
(not saying drugs and atomic bombs are on the same level, but you get what i mean)

I will agree with you if Jimin wear that t-shirt alone without anyone his friends, members, staff, & all related to Bts not with him when he wear it.. But

This is happened when all his members with him, all Bts staff with him, and already passed all check from producer & director to release that video..

With that comment you saying it's mean all people whom with him that time is stupid, and not know english like him.. Hahaha it's really delutional statement..

In my conclusion of this is Jimin maybe not have intention, but if he is have intention to atomic bomb then he really bad person i think..
And all members & staffs whom with him is responsibility for it too., because if they care to Jimin they should stop him if he did something's wrong.. That is the Real Friends/Comopanion..

But if you want and accept Jimin & all peoples whom with him that time get called dumb, stupid, and ignorant people.. Then it's your choice, i will not continue about it..

pinkpanda_spirit, on 28 Oct 2018 - 08:45 AM, said:

did this user get banned just because she defended jimin?

 

yes

okbut... whho the hell designed that shirt?? they intended to put that picure there and its so gross.. the person who made it deserves the most backlash imo

1Q98, on 28 Oct 2018 - 10:03 AM, said:

they don't deserve their japanese popularity when their whole company is so ignorant on this issue

Wtf can you not? They worked their ass off for years in japan, they very well deserved their popularity.

jimseok, on 28 Oct 2018 - 04:22 AM, said:

idc how much you antis try to make some shit up the truth will come out just wait
and Innocent until proven guilty I will say that till the day I die I know Jimin would NEVER wear a shirt like that intentionally

he is not that type of person trust me please he really would not wear a shirt like that the most apolitical guy would fucking never
edit: can you all just WAIT for bighit/jimin to freaking say something?

lmao why even need to wait bighit when it’s purely his ignorance, you looks dumb af defending him

jimseok, on 28 Oct 2018 - 04:22 AM, said:

idc how much you antis try to make some shit up the truth will come out just wait
and Innocent until proven guilty I will say that till the day I die I know Jimin would NEVER wear a shirt like that intentionally

he is not that type of person trust me please he really would not wear a shirt like that the most apolitical guy would fucking never
edit: can you all just WAIT for bighit/jimin to freaking say something?

lmao why even need to wait bighit when it’s purely his ignorance, you looks dumb af defending him

I can't read kanji and the first thing that I do when I see a shirt with kanji on it is asking what does it mean? maybe I would like it aesthetically but I would never buy it if I'm not 100% sure of the translation. And I'm not a public figure.

Yikes

Edgemoon, on 28 Oct 2018 - 4:02 PM, said:

I can't read kanji and the first thing that I do when I see a shirt with kanji on it is asking what does it mean? maybe I would like it aesthetically but I would never buy it if I'm not 100% sure of the translation. And I'm not a public figure.

As we’ve seen countless times idols 100% will buy shirts with English phrases that are completely inappropriate
Edited by emile, 28 October 2018 - 02:25 PM.