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Thirty-something furry artist on FA. Certified original daddyfops. I draw ABDL/babyfur content (no cub porn), ye be warned. SFW content/NSFW faves. En/Es He/His

Southside Virginia
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    1.  🌹Youmacon show Sat at 11:59pm‏ @peppercoyote Apr 19
      Replying to @AliothFox

      Because they’re different things.

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    2. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
      Replying to @peppercoyote

      Everyone says that, but no one can ever say *how* they are different. They're really quick to say, "No wait, that's different," but when you think about it, it's really not.

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    3. Bippity Boppity Boop  🔜 MFF‏ @WrenYena Apr 19
      Replying to @AliothFox @peppercoyote

      Imo, furries are humans with animal characteristics added on. I'd argue that feral porn could be closer to a "gateway," but even then you can't use furry porn to convince an animal it's okay for you to have sex with it. That aspect is one of my bigger concerns with CP

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    4. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
      Replying to @WrenYena @peppercoyote

      It's not an easy topic, for sure. But as a babyfur artist (even though I don't draw cub porn myself), I know a lot of people commission cub porn not because they are sexually attracted to children, but because they fantasize about *being* the child in that scenario.

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    5. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
      Replying to @AliothFox @WrenYena @peppercoyote

      You seem to be approaching it from the angle of "but it could be used in [x] way." And that's a valid concern - but I think the problem is that it's turned into a narrative of "everyone who likes cub porn is a pedo," and I know for a fact that that isn't the case.

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    6. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
      Replying to @AliothFox @WrenYena @peppercoyote

      Certainly there *are* pedophiles in the cub scene - just like there are zoophiles in the furry scene. If we are to focus on "rooting out" a problematic part of the furry fandom, it needs to be based on how one ACTS, not on how one THINKS. That's a dangerous road to go down.

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    7. Bippity Boppity Boop  🔜 MFF‏ @WrenYena Apr 19
      Replying to @AliothFox @peppercoyote

      I agree that action is more important than thought (especially since there are folks coming forward that they're attracted to CP but wish they weren't), but commissioning and sharing of CP is also an action and not just thought.

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    8. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
      Replying to @WrenYena @peppercoyote

      I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but I generally do agree with you there. But I *also* would have to add the caveat that *focusing on* ridding the community of cub porn - rather than pedophiles - is focusing in the wrong place, especially when Twitter mobs form over it.

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    9. Bippity Boppity Boop  🔜 MFF‏ @WrenYena Apr 19
      Replying to @AliothFox @peppercoyote

      I wish that I could agree with you on that (since pedophilia is the primary issue at hand), but CP being used as a tool for pedophiles to convince kids that sex is okay is still enough reason for me to be opposed to supporting it.

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    10. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
      Replying to @WrenYena @peppercoyote

      I'm not asking you to *support* it - I don't support it myself (I spoke out against allowing it on Furry Network when it was a startup). I'm saying that making it the focal point of the discussion will do more harm than good.

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      Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
      Replying to @AliothFox @WrenYena @peppercoyote

      But in fact, FN is another great example of why this is a problem: I was unambiguously in favor of FN banning cub porn, which they did. But they also became *aggressive* about moderating any babyfur/ABDL art whatsoever, forcing mature/adult ratings on completely benign work.

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        2. Bippity Boppity Boop  🔜 MFF‏ @WrenYena Apr 19
          Replying to @AliothFox @peppercoyote

          Unless they were putting anything considered a kink under mature/adult ratings (including things like inflation without any sexual implication), I agree that's not the way to go about handling it.

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        3. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
          Replying to @WrenYena @peppercoyote

          In the rules, anything "considered a kink" was mature/adult, but the enforcement - in practice - was very unevenly stacked against babyfur artwork in particular (I know which images were flagged and which ones weren't). I don't think that was entirely Furry Network's doing, >>>

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        4. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
          Replying to @AliothFox @WrenYena @peppercoyote

          <<< because after all, they moderate based on community reports, but that, if anything, is a perfect example of why it is a problem for this to be a focal point.

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        5. Bippity Boppity Boop  🔜 MFF‏ @WrenYena Apr 19
          Replying to @AliothFox @peppercoyote

          In that case, I still feel that CP is worthwhile as a focal point, but also that ABDL/babyfur isn't inherently "bad," or a potential tool for abuse is also an important part of the current conversation.

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        6. Bippity Boppity Boop  🔜 MFF‏ @WrenYena Apr 19
          Replying to @WrenYena @AliothFox @peppercoyote

          From what I'm aware of and have seen (and I'm sure there's things I haven't seen), I have no reason to be opposed to ABDL/babyfur content, regardless of my personal taste, and I'm definitely opposed to folks pushing against it for that reason. But imo CP is its own separate issue

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        7. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
          Replying to @WrenYena @peppercoyote

          Cub porn is a separate issue, but people frequently conflate the two - that's my entire point. It's kind of McCarthyist in a weird sort of way, which is why I brought up Tacklebox; he's an example of a good artist who became a casualty due to *overblown* fears.

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        8. Alioth Daddyfops  🇺🇸‏ @AliothFox Apr 19
          Replying to @AliothFox @WrenYena @peppercoyote

          And when you turn the *art* into the focal point, you get into wasting resources in the wrong places, while people who are ACTUALLY problematic (like Zaush) go under the radar.

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        9. Bippity Boppity Boop  🔜 MFF‏ @WrenYena Apr 19
          Replying to @AliothFox

          I agree that Zaush has a much more problematic history and current situation going on here given his statements. I don't know enough about TB (outside of his art) to say whether or not he's a "casualty" (I'd be more likely to agree if he hadn't RT'd more graphic CP from others)

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