Yeah I felt the cracked article was received really positively by the furry community considering it focuses entirely on making money from porn when being a full time self employed artist is a LOT more than just how you negotiate cum rates or what you will/wont draw.

They didn't mention anything in their article about the low barriers to entry for doing furry art from a business POV, the low set up costs, the potential reach of your content or working at furry conventions. Just seems like they wanted to focus on the oddities of drawing furry porn specifically :/

To be fair, Cracked is cancer xP

^QFT.

qft?

quite fucking true??

Sorry, I dont speak shorthand. I'm not hip enough

It means "Quoted For Truth."

Oh, thanks hun. now i know *rainbows* and knowing is growing

Quoted for truth

Most of this is horrible and I'm sorry your content control keeps being pulled from you....
.... but that tweet you made still has me laughing like a maniac.

i just looked for it and i can't stop laughing help

The cracked article was a much more even-handed take than I've seen in a lot of places, but they're a comedy website. Of COURSE they're gonna make fun of the absurdity of all this. I think it's progress though, there actually was some substance there, and sadly enough, all the "Durr look at the creepy freaks" stuff will probably insure that it gets read more.

I skimmed the Cracked article and honestly gotta say it could have been much much worse, considering some of their other new-ish content.
It was surprisingly even-handed, but still full of their standard hyperbole, just without being "LOL FUCKING FURRIES AMIRITE"

I'm with you on that, though we are making some amazing strides especially in the last month's people will not be ready to fully accept us ha-ha. We'll get there one day. Once people realize there is literally no difference between what we are and do and what everyone else fucking does.

*sigh* Same shit every day, I swear. :l

I'm sorry to hear this kinda shit keeps happening to you both.

I'm a fan of game theory but yeah, Matt is generally someone who likes science and proof. I lost a bit of faith in him in this one. He knowingly misrepresented a subculture for shock value like you mentioned. Also, why mention a game in development (not even finished)?

He totally missed the objective of his channel miserably on this one. He states himself that his show is made to educate his viewers (on science and other stuff, there are cultural segments on his channel, btw).

Matt on that one, you deserved a F (like in Fail).

Forgive me if I seem like an idealistic doof but I would cut Mat some slack; I would prefer to think that at least this once he did that for humoristic purposes. Rather than merely complain I would suggest bombarding his inbox with reqquests on a yiff theory.

Actually, I sent some stuff about Dust the Elysian tale. x3

I mostly let mainstream coverage fester on it's own. It doesn't affect my own enjoyment of what I like.
On top of that, most of us here (actually I should hope ALL of us) know that all of these are just very shallow, uneducated pokes of fun at something the examples don't understand properly.

Again, doesn't affect my enjoyment of something I like. If people wanna be uneducated let 'em. That's their own ignorance.

*puts feet up*

Friends outside of the scene or in tangential scenes to furry have commentated on how off-putting it seemed that the artists were so negative to commissioners- but it seems you're saying that Crack curated that demeanor and took it out of context? That's unfortunate, I'm sorry to hear that

I was upset by the article due to my own misgivings with IF's owner and my inability to escape my abuser's presence, but that's tangential.

We might start by kicking out peophiles, people who condone bestiality and sick fucks out of the fandom. That might help.

That'd without a doubt help immensely. People walking around convention centers with shit in their diapers is especially not the kind of publicity this fandom needs.

That is literally impossible for we cannot say who is or is not part of the fandom. Most people who don't even consider themselves part of the fandom, would be taken as a part of it.

On inkbunny there are a lot of pedo furfags who post pedo art or behave like absolute pedos. Eliminating all that shit is a start.
Also telling idiotic furfags who do idiotic/cringey shit to stop and grow the fuck up is also a start

Haahah good to know! That is definitely a place I will steer clear from ! :D

Doing either one of those things is a waste of time.
According to you we should remove everything and everyone, remotely not normal or frowned upon because we do not like it or 'want' it.
Its fine you do not like it or want to be associated with them or it.
But you are being no better than anyone saying the Furry Fandom should be removed from the face of the earth.
Let the people who want to do or see whatever they want, do just that.
As long it doesn't harm anyone but themselves, they should have the freedom to do whatever they please.

>Doing either one of those things is a waste of time.

Not really, at least people will stop thinking that we're all pedos and zoophiles and stuff

>According to you we should remove everything and everyone, remotely not normal or frowned upon because we do not like it or 'want' it.

No I just said we should remove degenerates, pedos and idiots, not everyone.

>But you are literally being no better than anyone saying the Furry Fandom should be removed from the face of the earth.

So being against idiots, degenerates and pedos is a bad thing? k

>Let the people who want to do or see whatever they want, do just that.

If they do stupid shit I will call them out on it. If they do sick shit they need to be kicked out. Period.

>As long it doesn't harm anyone but themselves, they should have the freedom to do whatever they please.

I should also have the freedom to call them out on their BS

Preblem though? We're all degenerates ;p Let's not try to bullshit ourselves and say that's not why most of us are here and yes you have as much right to call any one out you want but when you make a rallying cry to "remove the bad element" well that's when we have an issue.

He is right though, It is for the most part, a waste of energy, unless we are talking about illegal content here. As far as I can tell, FA is not full of cub-art, at least I don't see a lot of it, but that's just my experience. So it is already a niche inside what I already see as a niche. Even if you could, trough some obscure vodoo magic, get rid of ALL the questionable content on FA, it won't dissapear from the internet. And do you even believe for a second, that people out there will differentiate or care about if you tell them, but the users on FA are not supporting it!
This is not a new problem, and Furries are sure not the last one that will suffer from this. I mean take a lookt at Russia for example, where they are just one step away from throwing Pedophiles and Homosexuals in the same group, for many people they already are the same. What ever if we like it or not.

You do realize the fandom isn't just FA right?

Also I wasn't talking about removing stuff from the internet, but about rejecting it. By doing this we'll send a positive message. We won't be able to convince everyone or even the majority of people but at least we tried.

You realize that's removing one of the main things about the fandom: The openly creative content.
Some people may not like babyfurs, cub artists or even guro artists but they are not hurting anyone and are just expressing an artistic vision in a digital and sometimes physical media for themselves and their fans. As long as no one is hurting anyone, then just let them be (just like my stance on someones' gender/sex/sexual orientation.)

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I see, but it doesn't really change much in my opinion. You are talking about sending a message, even if that would be possible, to people that already made up their mind anyway. And those that do not think negatively about the Furry community, don't need this message in the first place. Hence, it's just lost energy on something, I think isn't possible anyway. The Furry community is in that sense like the Punk movement, or some form of art. There is no spokes person or leadership that could be seen as some kind of authority here which has the power to decide what's now part of the Furry-Community and what isn't. It isn't like Cons and communities don't already try to paint a positive image. But it still didn't prevent the stuff from above to happen.

They are hurting the fandom. The first thing one sees while browsing FA unfiltered is copious amounts of "art" depicting someone having a shit. I doubt I'm speaking only for myself by saying that most people not into that kind of stuff don't want to be associated with scat-fans and pedophiles. And associated with them they will be, as someone from outside the fandom has no ability or need to view it as multiple, almost separate fandoms.
Since art depicting outlandish fetishes is typically outlandishly bad, there's little that can be lost by excluding people like that to their own sites.

You do understand though that what you said can be pretty much said about ANYTHING that's remotely sexual in the Furry community. I am sure there are people which can't stand vore, inflation, size play or simply gay content. But who's to decide what is now worth something or what isn't? I understand that not everyone likes everything. That's absolutely fair and I respect that. This is just another, they like chocolate we like vanilla argument at it's core. And I never understood this need for removing a certain kind of art.
But that's beside the point. Point is, even if you get rid of ALL that crazy fetish stuff, no one, no one of those haters out there is going to ever change his opinion on Furries, just because of that. All you're basically doing at that point, is to give in on their pressure, you let their hatreted and bigotry win over you. That's it. And you won't even win anything from it. As they are going to STILL paint every Furry as crazy fetishist or worse, a pedophile - by the way I didn't knew that cub art makes you a pedophile. I guess looking at homosexual images makes you gay too.

A lot of cub art is just cute af anyway, with or without nudity or sexual content, lol.

So should we get rid of all the LGBT porn here also, by your logic? Since those haters also think LGBT people are "weird/gross" too. Your comment is a slippery slope honestly

You might want to take a history lesson before you spend a lot of time on a campaign to remove elements you consider undesirable from the fandom. "Rejecting" a particular sub-group just pushes them to where you aren't, giving you even less of a say over how they represent you than before.

Case in point: FA banned cub porn back in 2010 (albeit primarily due to financial considerations, not moral ones). This action was key in Inkbunny becoming one of the leading hosts for furry artists after FA.

Or look at FA itself, which grew enormously after SheezyArt and y!Gallery banned furry porn. Sure didn't stop those porn artists "making furry look bad" by sexualizing anthropomorphic animals - and the two sites in question are now dead and stagnant respectively.

Or might actually understand what I'm trying to say before writing stupid shit like this.

I vote we kick you out first though.

sick burn m8

How does one "kick someone out" of a fandom? especially if the fandom is the furry community?

I agree, but you can't honestly say nobody saw it coming. The language in EVERY cracked article is superlative and dramatic, especially the titles, because they believe that's the only way they can get page views. Journalism is a dirty business; I used to be one.

Yep, modern journalism is basically clickbait and shit.

If it's any comfort, the media is a bad scene all around, not just for furries. There's a reason journalists don't do well in surveys about professions

As much as I think Cracked is cancer, I'm honestly happy it wasn't worse. It wasn't a Chewfox or Culpeo, and it wasn't a CSI (thankfully, because holy shit that gave enough negative reaction to last lifetimes).

I can't imagine why you'd ever trust a reporter to write a story the way you want it. Every news outlet is going to go for the shock value, you know this. Lesson learned. Stop talking to the press if you want things written your way. *^^*

All publicity is good publicity!

i watched the game theory video and it caught me way off guard to see it there... i wasnt sure how to respond to the outright negative view he gave on it but still...

at this point ive kinda given up trying to stop people mocking us. because they never. ever. will. v.v

Every fandom will be mocked in some way so both you and Jason are right.

*shrugs* i ho[e people sort their shit out though...

why cant we just get along?

Shit happens! People can be assholes! And we have very little chance of going back!

history has proved that to me.

OH WELL. BACK TO RACING FAST CARS

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Honestly unless you go out of your way to literally find this, chances are you will not hear about any of this, unless a friend tells you, it trends on Twitter or hits the news and newspapers.

I rarely ever hear or see anything negative being said about the Furry Community, simply because I never look for it or hear about it anywhere.

Not sure why you'd think the Furry Community is getting as much hate like twenty years ago.

Speaking of, how is Amorous comin along? Its been a while since I've seen anything.

To tell you the truth, I don't really care xD While having a good rep i awesome, I tend to stick with the people who matter to me, and who can understand, everyone else can go fuck themselves, to be honest with you.

And yeah, I really did enjoyed the matpat joke :p While he could have gone in more depth about he game, it would have subtracted from the joke, unless he aims to talk about it next time. That would be cool I guess.

Well there's a phrase: "Sex sells!"

And to this day I hate Matpat for it

The more I see people being anti-furry or anti-furry porn, the more I thoroughly enjoy seeing their denial-ridden minds being deflowered by the most juicy examples of the naughty side of our world.

Cracked is just a bunch of bullshit. Like tabloids.

Well if there is one thing you and Kabier can take solace in. It'd be that the author of that "article", Mark Hill, is just another Clickbait/Titlebait using cuckold.

Mainstream exposure will never really change for the better of the fandom. The positive side of the fandom isn't juicy enough for people to take time to write/document about for THEIR audience when compared to the very negative minority of things that exist here as well that they can shock people with.

^ This is pretty much true with everything nowadays when it comes to media. I think I see about... 10 or so articles that are about, well, negative or bad things before I even see one thing about something good happening. After all, the only way the media is ever going to get exposure is if it covers everything that's bad. Clickbaiting comes to mind as well.

Just don't trust any news articles to give a positive outlook on most anything if they want an interview. They WILL take things out of context.

It'll get better~ but it'll take awhile. Still, this stereotype will be a comedy element for awhile. However we've had good publicity over the past two years. Not perfect but there are some legitimately mainstream media sources that have reported positively, or neutral with a paragraph that addresses the stereotype but disclaims it. Again, we should expect tabloid bullshit like this from time to time. I'm still a little salty over MSNBC and Inside Edition's grotesque coverage of the MFF incident. "LOOK AT THIS TIGER WEARING A DRESS"! Oh Jesus fuck! Forget about the (thankfully not) dangerous situation and pick on a guy who might be transgender :| but whatever~

Also, cracked claimed InkedFur hooked them up with these interviews, did they in y'all's case or was it just a seek-out?

"Out of the 22 thunbnails, 20 were porn, most of which barely represents the community."

This IS the furry community though. Plugging your ears and trying to deny the existence of these individuals in the fandom or trying to make them out as some minority is not being truthful. Now granted, depending on the fetish, maybe not the majority of furs have a specific fetish, but to try and deny the sexual aspect of I would argue a majority of furs existing and the fact that there are a number of folks who simply are just weird or socially awkward in the fandom is simply not being honest with yourself or the people reading this in the same way you are criticizing those articles for misrepresenting furs.

You say that one needs to "go out of their way to find *insert more extreme fetish*". I beg to differ. Hell, looking at the "Browse" feature here on FA will usually find at minimum a few extreme pics that people have done. And searching for a specific picture will almost always bring up porn, if not extreme shit. It's not as hard to come by as you make it out to be, which puts me in the position to say that it seems like you're being just as bad about misrepresenting a chunk of the fandom as the sources you linked. It's not as bad as those articles and videos always make it out, but it's certainly not lilacs and daisies either.

The Cracked article, beyond the way it did cherry pick at first, seemed pretty damn accurate with what it described with most of what it described, whether it be peoples' experiences on the artist end or the descriptions of the customers. So beyond it just not showing what you WANT it to show, I don't think it's that wrong.

Also, the idea of furries being seen in a negative light is nothing new, but if anything, it's still only gotten better over the years and I only see articles like this go over the basics of what does happen in parts of the fandom.

I mean shit, the title starts out "We draw furry porn", what did you expect?

This.

Greatly exaggerated, hitting browse right now generated 62 images. 5 of them were porn, 2 were extreme fetishes. I only knew Kabier/Doxy before reading the article, and I browse here pretty much every other week.



More like intentionally misleading to beat a dead horse, that's the annoying part.

How was I exaggerating in my statement? I just did it myself and counted at least 17 porn pics (more if you don't count those sexual in nature) and about 6 in extreme nature. But I digress. It doesn't matter what you or I find at one particular moment and it certainly doesn't speak for all the total artwork uploaded, even if you browse 'every other week'. You've missed the point if you can't look at the whole picture rather than snapshots by browsing at one particular moment, let alone the fact that it's Easter. And whether the porn is 'extreme' or not is kind of irrelevant to begin with. I'll concede that cherry picking more extreme porn is dishonest, but if you look up some of the statistics for 'extreme' porn in the fandom like pageviews, you notice that some of the most extreme stuff, while not favorited as much, is viewed waayy more than most clean art that becomes popular. It doesn't mean that it will happen every time or that clean art can't be immensely popular, but as you know yourself, porn sells.

It's not misleading though. Find all the sections of the article that you feel are false and point them out to me rather than just vague statements about how they are not true about the fandom and we can discuss those, rather than what you feel is exaggerated even if it's technically true.

Also, what did you really expect from a news outlet when talking about furries and furry porn artists? As others have pointed out, furry art in general has shock value to it. Extreme porn is just a subset of what other's outside the fandom already think is really weird.

Did you actually expect Cracked.com to not be full of shit?

Eh, there's a lot of great articles there too. After all, they're not all written by the same people.

the amount of dribbling shit that pours from Cracked kind of offsets that a bit

Eh, it's a matter of taste. I've been reading their stuff since around 2008. Titles have gone to shitty clickbait, but there's really good stuff around there. Like I said, some of their writers are great.

This article I couldn't even get angry at, because it's just meh.

I stopped watching Game Theory a while ago. He tries to pass off a lot of his ideas as legitimate facts. When he presents an argument with little evidence (or far-fetched), he just simply states, "It's just a theory", and he assumes that justifies his weak arguments.

I remember his video about finding the gender/sexual orientation of Pyro. He used scientific facts that should not apply to video games, like using finger length differences between the ring & index fingers, which Gnoggin touched on. Plus, his voice is annoying.

Ugh, bias, bias everywhere.
Well, cracked being a humor site cannot be really taken seriously, but some people actually do. And honestly is such a cheap shot using the cringe/morbid factor to gain readers. And perhaps stuff like this won't change on mainstream media for a while, they don't care about the truth, they only care about enterraining, keeping a captive audience and the revenue it generates.

Money baby.

Its not gonna change for awhile so..

That first link was fucking hilarious.

I actually really like Game Theory and Brutalmoose, but I'm sorry that this is happening to you guys.

To be honest you don't need to go out of your way at all to find TF or Hyper you need to go out of your to find stuff like certain kinds of vore or preg stuff. As for what happened? What did you expect from an online media? Hell any media? It's never about potraying people correctly or fairly it's about getting clicks or views. Never contribute to hese people but since you have the only thing you can do is point them out for what they've done and do so publically

I stopped liking Matt a few months ago when it became more obvious that he's a shill desperate for attention.

You are right about this dude, and I feel bad for showing you the link to the video theory that has your guy's game

i havent seen te other ones so i cant comment on those, but i dont think brutal moose really meant any harm. he makes jokes about porn whether its furry or not, hes played porn games with people and made fun of them
but i understand how you feel

It does make me deeply wish people would stop seeing furries from the majority of what it's usually seen by: porn. I mean, you even have artists that don't do porn, yet they're not credited as much as those who do porn mostly.

I actually do like the fact that in Amorous there's gameplay involving your character's relationship with some of the dates; It gives you a connection to them and draws you into them on an emotional level and not solely on the level that he/she's hot and you want to fuck them.

I usually watch the Game Theorists only on games I really like, but after hearing this.. I don't think I'm gonna be watching GT as much anymore. So sorry they did this to both of you and you two deserve better.

Armorous kind of rewards you with sex once you get to have conversations with any of the 3 current choices you're allowed with. Seth and Jax for instance have some good material to their past which can help me connect to them better than some badly written movie characters.

There are many artists that can draw combinations of clean art and porn. Few examples off the top of my head are Scappo, Braeburned and seth iova. Do artists like that have a better chance of having both their styles represented more positively?

For Game Theory, have only seen a couple of their videos but this is kind of making me want to avoid them

True, but you do get to connect with them on the dates before the sex. You even get to see their most vulnerable moments. Those moments made me want to hug them both tightly.

There's also Rukis, Goldenemotions, and others just to name a few. The sad truth of it is, is that FA is mostly seen as a porn site due to the majority of the art here being porn, with those who specialize in porn art getting most of the attention and love. It makes me wish those who do either solely clean and/or those with combinations of clean and porn art got more recognition and attention, not to mention have their stiles represented in a more positive aspect.

Yeah.. I still remember the guy there try to make a theory that Sans from Undertale was actually Ness from Earthbound, and Tobyfox (Undertale creator) confirmed Sans was not Ness and to "GTFO". It's like GT is really pissing off people now.

I have ever heard of those webs tbh so i cant say much after all :/

I didn't realize cracked cherry picked THAT hard. Good lord. And to think I thought the article was a good one too. Yeah, if I'm I hadn't already jumped ship on them, you can believe I sure as hell am now.

I think people find the most absurd thing of a community and make it to be the stereotype of that community, in which is potrayed everywhere now. I actually saw the Kuledud3 video and found it funny, even commenting on it. I don't think furries should hate these people, just enjoy! c:

Expect as much "representation" as regular porn gets.
It's porn. A very specific niche of it too. How do you expect any mainstream media at all to react?

As for a general lack of representation of "furries", are you kidding me there is so much media with some anthromorphic animal in it, it isn't even funny. That's not going anywhere.
If you tell someone that you like zootopia and httyd and secret of nimh and mickey mouse and dragon heart and alien and dust and whatever else, nobody will give a shit.

So wait, you did an interview with cracked.com, a site that is well known for cherry picking for humor, and you are surprised that they cherry picked quotes? Not sure I'm following you here on that one.

What I'm dissapointed in, was the amount of work/time the author put into it only to cop out and go the lazy 'ew furries!' route. I could have come up with far more ways to make the piece interesting/funny without just spamming shock porn.

Ide like voice a little of my thoughts on the subject (although I'm pretty much a nobody in the fandom and I'm content with that). Ever since I became a furry I've always admired both sides of the art (SFW and NSFW), and to be quite honest I've been a huge fan girl of both you and Kabier's work. As much as people go on about the porn aspect of the fandom and what not, they seem to jump to conclusion that we all joined the fandom for that reason and they don't bother looking at the creative side to it. Besides if you look at artists from 16th and 17th centuries you don't see their artwork of nudity being taken out of museums due to it being 'pornographic', they don't cause nudity in art can be very beautiful to look at and admire how curvaceous the lines. Our society today focuses to much on outlining how things can be 'poison' just cause of nudity or a depiction of a sexual act. Yes I do also agree that people will always find a way to put us down but it's just cause they don't understand us and honestly it may take some time before we start becoming more accepted in society or we may never be cause you can't please everyone right. Anyways that's my little rant for the day lol I know I probably went off on something probably unrelated lol

Wow, i really didn't expect game theory to have to stoop so low to the point of having to make fun of a furry dating game.

This is why i avoid any mainstream things that people put out involving furries, it's always just "Wow look at all this weird porn they make!"

Cracked always sucks, Game Theory has become cancer as well, and although I'm not sure why she would play it I think kuledud3 wasn't to bad with it as someone who isn't a furry.

I just linked recent mentions and references. Doesn't necessarily mean that I find it all offensive.

"There's some sick satisfaction when I torture myself to undying ends, and dating sims are the best way to accomplish just that. Make it a furry dating sim and I'm almost guaranteed to consider drowning myself."

Maybe the video isn't too bad considering how others say the same with far more negative connotations, but the description below the kuledud3 video sums up the thoughts he has, I believe.

Don't worry Jason, nomatter what i support you all the way man. Keep being AWSOME!

I don't find it surprising in the least that cracked pulled that stunt.

I remember that Brutal Moose video, and I honestly didn't even know that was your art in it when he mentions the porn for the game. It's on the screen for barely a second and it's mostly blurred out, I don't know how offensive that'd be. He isn't really mocking us or anything either, just pointing out a fact.

The other stuff I never saw or heard about, but judging from other reactions, it's not worth looking into. I never really pay much attention anyway to what the world says about furries. If they can't accept us then too bad. I'm not changing for them and they don't have to worry about me.

I agree he's just making a quick gag.

Furries are amazing, and while I do have a sona, I really am not a furry. I'm only here for the hawt sexxxy porn you guys make, not so much the suits or the conventions or (SFW) art.

Why did I bother reading that cracked article WHY!!! It was just... so damn bad and disengenuouse

at least Gnoggin has a decent video * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhDHx6Cisdg * I'd even argue pretty good

That pretty much sums up how society works. Nobody cares about the truth.

ITs funny, as non furry porn can have the same exact things in them that are just as cringe worthy. And gettingone or two individuals to represent the WHOLE fandom..DOESNT WORK.. If anything a Forum with every individual on the world would be more accurate then justone!...mabey..but you get what I mean.. They use it as a ridiculous "if they don't say what we want we'll get someone stupider, or just crop out HALF of our conversation." Just a gimmick that everyone not involved in will fall for, but then when its at THEM they go "OH WHAT DO YOU MEAN WERE FALSE???". Its like the titanic movie, but everyones that 6 year old girl going "ROSE ISNT REAL???!" .

I think anytime the mainstream acknowledges "not-of-the-norm" fetishes like furry, their reactions are usually shock or disgust. Although, I think it's really a cycle. Any fetish that gets coverage will get downed at first, but then it becomes the norm later on. For example, BDSM. I'm sure it was not received well at first, but now almost everyone can mention it without discomfort. According to Pornhub, the category "cartoon" is starting to be one of their most searched terms on the site ( http://media.vocativ.com/photos/201.....1726039277.png ).

I'm not entirely sure MatPat still writes his episodes, a couple months ago he made a video explaining how he someone else to edit his videos. I wouldn't be surprised if he got someone else to write them aswell

It's funny how this has just become a miasma of circle-jerking hate towards "modern journalism". Modern journalism doesn't just consist of clickbait BuzzFeed articles.

I think I pointed out the irony on Matts video, I doubt that he has any disdain for furries though, I guess he just played dumb to what and anthropomorph was so he could put a joke in his video, which is somewhat understandable.

Although, many of the people commenting here would fit in the more...sexual category of furries, I still don't like how people, especially the media misrepresent the whole fandom. Of the people/groups you cited I think that the only one trying to incite general misinformation was Cracked. And it's not the first time media has asked furries for information and proceeded to shit in out faces, remember CSI? *shudders*

My logic is quick and easy to follow:
If you dont like it, pout the fucking thing down or put it away. Its not hard.
We have all done a good job in trying to get the public eye's best reactions when it comes to the fandom but it seems like now and then something really fucked up happens that changes the light completely and the news covers it like white on rice. This isnt just for us-its for every fandom really.
The questions is- can we ignore it like the way I said above? Probably not.
Prejudice versus bias really.
This is just prejudiced bias.
Of which should not be acceptable and does deserve a reaction or to be taken down.
Also this dude is very late for this article-furries arent news anymore. They are just being shed a shadow on by poorly researched journalism and libelious articles in the media.

People still complain about same-se marriage so there is always gonna be someone out there for us.

Ah leaches. They always try to suck off the negativity of thing they find easy to exploit. Its for there own self benefit. This is especially apparent with fandoms, not just ours, that are token out of context due to ether stereotyping or when people are force fed bullshit that exploiters want them to see. But when it gets to the point where people actually listen to that crap and hate people due to there lack of perspective on the matter (meaning not even wanting to listen or hear them out), it starts to create controversy, lack of respect, and down right bullying over a matter so trivial. Hell, Ive been in a situation where I was chilling with some furies and they were talking about some bronys they ran into. They pointed out them from the other side of the room and said how they were "lunatics" for what they liked... what they had to say perplexed me, when they, as furies, have there own fandom to appreciate.

Here's the thing. Its not fair how people are treated for something they like. Honestly, if you know your limits and don't obsess over the porn aspect to much, why should it be an issue. You like what you want to like, and if it doesn't hurt anyone,... and in other cases anything, in real life then keep it that way. Its societies fault for not wanting to be sympathetic, not ours for having a different perspective. And hell, you don't have to be a furry to like the porn. Maybe you like the people and the art as the art. Or even just go to furcon once in awhile and see what's up. Honestly, who cares. I don't get into a costume at furcon but I think the people who do are amazing and free spirited.

So seriously, no one here is ashamed or should be ashamed to be a furry. Its your perspective.

I just hope I explained that in a reasonable manner.

We all know the media tends to represent anything not mainstream with a bad light for the sake of ratings, but what people tend to forget is that it lessens with time. The more something is publicized, the more people know about it, and the more it becomes "normal" to some degree. Look at Zootopia.

The furry fandom will be less of a punching bag over time, even in the eyes of the media; they'll find something else to make fun of/criticize. Condemning the illegal and unpalatable activities will help that along, certainly. In the mean-time, no one can blame you for not stepping into the spotlight or getting frustrated when it's still resulting in this sort of outcome.

I feel like cracked should get a bit of a pass, their whole point is humour and they use hyperbole to acheive that effect quite a lot, actually. I dunno.

Okay I will agree that Game Theory was kind of a dingus when it came to showing your game just for shock value, although the Cracked article was about furry porn and it was an article documenting strange jobs and the job they were focusing on was being a furry porn artist. Of course they are going to mention all the weird stuff furries are into because the idea was to find the weird stuff they do for money. Also, not all of Kabier's comments were used negatively, one comment (which actually somewhat confused me considering her journals) was when they were talking about how yiff artists' parents think of their profession, the quote they took from Kabier was saying how her parents supported her and personally I don't that's negative nor positive.

Anyway that's just my two cents.

Well, at the end of the Kuledud3 video she does say that she doesn't care it's a furry game, and it's more for the dating sim part. Previous videos on the channel also involve dating sims. I won't say the video doesn't have any offensive undertones, but I don't think it was made to be that way. Kule just doesn't seem like the type of person to purposefully discriminate against a group, and that may be reinforced by the fact she's transgender and one of many "real horsefuckerz."

I wrote you an essay, but I'll just summarize:

I disagree. Our fandom is very sex heavy, and we have a ton of kinks that are little more than skin deep (I'm surprised you say you have to look for this stuff; I can find it within five minutes of browsing FA in SFW mode). We're comfortable with that, and we really like to advertise it as a centerpiece because it's funny. I've no problem with others getting in on the joke. If we feel like this isn't our community, and isn't our focus, then we need to prove it to ourselves first, in my opinion.

That's all.

-V

http://www.highlevelgames.ca/blog/5.....-about-furries
I think you'll like this one.

Unfortunately, "modern folk" have been judging "furries" as "pedophiles" and will stick to that judgement like their life depends on it. Most of the "sources" I get from these people who claim that Furries are scum of the earth and all furry art is bla bla bla, consists mostly of people who're not even as bad. They're just doing some unusual activity that "normal people" don't do.

tl;dr: Waiting for that one day that everyone understands that THIS IS THE WORLD, and there's SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE on it. Nobody perfect, everyone's different. Mind yer own damn bi'ness.

To be fair, Kyledud3 said at the end of his video that he doesn't have anything against furries or the fandom.
It was pretty clear to me, at least, that most of the criticism was directed at the dialogue and Amorous itself.

It was probably a lapse in judgement to do anything for cracked.

*TRIGGERED*

It's only damaging to people who give way too much of a shit about what people who don't even know them think. That and the overwhelming majority of comments were either positive or from people who weren't bothered by it as long as furries weren't getting in their face. While the comments might have been cherry picked I don't think they reflected poorly upon anyone. If anything it was one of the most positive representations of the mature side of the fandom that I've seen.

You get what you pay for. When people find out that the community is largely based on people collecting drawings of their personal character and the most popular ones are revolved around pornography, statistics will tell you that hyper-sexuality is not very acceptable in the outside world as from any other fandom. So that imprinted an image to the society based on this industry that furries love this animal-hentai, and im sure that many people will cringe away from you knowingly that you posses very graphic content of the character that you personally created. Bring any fandom, its the same pattern. If furries would focus on fields that does not involve pornography, such as in comedy, animation, video games to balance out the numbers, people would think less about the dark side. This is why most people usually accept if you like anime, because most popular anime is pretty PG for a kid to watch on TV. As in an example, they dont know that lion king is a "furry" show, its just a cartoon Disney show for kids, so innocence plays out in that role without any thought that it belongs to anthropomorphic fandom. Zootopia had helped the positive view for furries. Its just what the members of the fandom need to focus on a large scale, and we have to do it collectively.

I'd seen Cracked's article in a tag I follow on Tumblr and didn't dare read it considering well...when in history have furries been treated fairly in the media, lol.

Yeah well, that's why I never use the word 'furry' when talking about my drawings.
I say I draw cartoon animals and the usual response is "Wow, cool!"

Yiff has its place as does hentai in anime - there really are few aspects of life that humor and playfulness do not spice up - but it's a pity that the creepiest what-has-been-seen-cannot-be-unseen stuff stains a great art style.

I fucking love brutalmoose

The guys at cracked were comparatively fair considering shock value pays their bills, they could have gone much farther.

You do have to understand though, with normal people, the explicit end of this group will always stand out more and be used for humor.
Not unlike how S/M and homosexuality were used in popular culture, it seems to happen to any sexual abnormality.