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社会学(エスノメソドロジー/会話分析、理論社会学、ジェンダー論、フェミニズムなど)。 『実践の中のジェンダー』発売中です。 http://socio-logic.jp/em_komiya2011.php …

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    KOMIYA Tomone‏ @frroots 14h14 hours ago

    これは誰に向けるわけでもない独り言ですが、「Aはよいか悪いか」のような争いのある規範的問いを詰めて議論しようと思うと、大体結論はどちらでもありえて、片方の結論が他方の結論を完全に排除するような議論をできることなんてほとんどないんです。

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    • U@Hentai impact 3 zmape マリコレ🌹エレガンス 富士川皇輝 クロ海苔bdän 葛西伸哉 琴子@ KIAぼす 館山緑@分岐バカ
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      2. KOMIYA Tomone‏ @frroots 14h14 hours ago

        だから大抵の場合重要なのは結論よりも理由のほうで、学術的には理由の分節化がどんどん細かくなっていって、同じ結論の立場どうしでも全然理由が違って議論をたたかわせることになる。

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      3. KOMIYA Tomone‏ @frroots 14h14 hours ago

        それはバーンと結論出してアジるようなのとは真逆の、みみっちく見える細かい論点へと議論を分解して分解して分解して個別に考えていく作業ですが、でもそういう作業をしないと多くの問題はちゃんと考えられない。

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      4. KOMIYA Tomone‏ @frroots 14h14 hours ago

        結論で人を分類して敵味方にわけ、相手を無理矢理どこかの結論に押し込め説明を要求し、自分の結論を支持できる理由であれば深く考えずに飛びつく、みたいなことしてても長い目で見たら何も残らないので、もうちょっと「結論はおいといて理由を分解する」作業に慣れることができたらなと思います。

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      5. KOMIYA Tomone‏ @frroots 14h14 hours ago

        KOMIYA Tomone Retweeted KOMIYA Tomone

        そのほうが結論と自分との距離を取れるし、↓のような悪循環に陥らずにすみます。主題が自分にとって大切なものであればあるほど。https://twitter.com/frroots/status/1054138091915534336 …

        KOMIYA Tomone added,

        KOMIYA Tomone @frroots
        批判に対する防御反応が攻撃性に転化して、攻撃性が強すぎる主張を導いて、強すぎる主張が批判を呼び込むという悪循環はいろんなところで起こってる感じがある。もうちょっと主張と人格を切り離せればいいんだろうけど。
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      1. (ぱ)‏ @table0901 2h2 hours ago
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        とうとう、どっちでもあり、とか言い始めたぞ。これは悪いことだから公的な場所から出て行け、と言ってた口からこんな独り言が出てくるとは。私も独り言ですが、多分今回の議論で一番評価を下げたのはセンセイ。

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      1. 新津孝太‏ @nytsukouta 14h14 hours ago
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        主張の分水嶺を見極めるとこを見たかったです

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      1. ファンシー海‏ @FancyUmi 11m11 minutes ago
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        結果ありきで、結論でるものじゃないから、この問題は先送りしましょう。という大人の回答で、教育の敗北ということですね。理解します

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