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I'm sorry, Identity and Pronouns    

By Tanookicatoon, 2 years ago
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But...

Okay...

I'm usually decently respectable about what people want to be...but, like...

Here's where I am on this.

SEX and GENDER

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND that they're two different things.

But...seriously.

Your Genitals...that is your sex. You were born with that.

No matter if you chop it off and start taking a bunch of hormone medication to make your body think it's the opposite sex...

The MOMENT you stop. You change back.

It fucking hurts. I goddamn know. But that's some Strange Case of Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde shit.

I KNOW first hand. I knew a guy going into the military who was transsexual, and HE was female.
Like NO SHIT, was female...but still had his junk...and...used it...
So he decided to stop taking his meds,
Changed back into a male
And went insane.
Like...
Seriosuly...don't do that to yourself...

But...anyway...

I went on a tangent there.

I'm going on about something else.

I'm going on about what people like and prefer to be called.

You can prefer to be one or the other.

Which is okay and such...but...

If your...

NEITHER

Please...just pick a side...THEY/THEM is not a singular pronoun.

It's just not.

I don't speak Ebonics.

I speak English.

Decent American English.

And saying they/them as a pronoun doesn't sound intelligent.

Like...fuck it. I'll just go total Japanese on you and refer to you by name everytime I'm going to talk about you.
15 comments

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  greyscarborough

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
I. Am. So. Fucking. Rustled. I. Will. Poop. My. Pants.
  tanookicatoon

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
GIMME THOSE JIMMIES BRO

I WANT THEM
  plumpproductions

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
You're just asking for drama dude.. >.<
  tanookicatoon

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
BUT I SAID I"M SORRY FIRST,

I really don't care. lol
  haystack

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
http://grammarist.com/usage/they/

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/w.....he-versus-they

https://motivatedgrammar.wordpress......-why-its-corre ct/

seriously, it's not a problem. using "they" and variants for uncertain gender is modern grammatical usage.
  tanookicatoon

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
"Modern"

Essentially what all those articles summarize into is the basic usage of the word in the way it's meant and is still used as.

As in using it in a context of being so far away from actually attaching an identity to what you are referring them to.

Who is them? Who are they? They and Them are a concept.

That's why it's so strange to want to be called They and Them.

It's still neither male nor female which is what I understand what "they", or rather, said person who is not wanting to be male nor female, is intending, but it's still not referring to a singular person either.
And that's where using they as a singular pronoun would be wrong.

I'm not trying to be a grammar Nazi as, the first few paragraphs of the third link might suggest.
Good gawd, was that something to try to skim over.

Something I would do in English, to see if something sounded right, was I would switch certain linking verbs around.
Y'know. Is, Are, Am and...whichever ones we use without thinking of....

Much like saying "He and I are doing this" versus "Him and I is doing this"
The plural pronoun would be we. So saying "We is doing this", well, just isn't right.

Y'see what I'm saying?

You learned it. It's being taught.

You can speak the way you want and so can everyone else,

But that doesn't make it right. lol
  tanookicatoon

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
TL;DR

They/Them isn't a singular pronoun.

It's essentially a placeholder that anyone can place their own identity into.

anyone

Neither he nor she.

But it's still not correct to use it to refer to a singular person who actually has an identity and is right in front of you and everyone to see.

It just makes you want to swap all around your own words...he her you,
  kryphosdrgn

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
Language can and does change over time. Don't get me wrong, I think it sounds strange as well. But in the absence of a gender neutral or a gender absent pronoun, I guess they/them will have to do. But I can also say that I have encountered and interacted with thousands of people, mostly furries, and I haven't encountered a single person that falls in this description. Rare, I guess.
  tanookicatoon

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
Just call yourself a S/he like in final fantasy. Heck, spell check accepts it.
Or that one Japanese word that they called Samus Aran in the original Metroid instruction booklet. Can't remember it off the top of my head.
Like, I said, Japan doesn't normally use pronouns, if at all, (there's Japanese books that don't use a single pronoun leaving certain character's sex a mystery to the reader) but even the FEW they do have are non binary. It's more like saying "this person" than anything.
  stormyrange

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
I identify as GENDER ono
  felikks

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
I'm just like, life is too short to spend my time and money on that stuff. I was given what I was given, and I will, thoroughly, enjoy it.
  christykitsune

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
You identify as fat ass
  tanookicatoon

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
Something like that. >w>
  ronintendo

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
A male mind is the mind of a person who is biologically male. A female mind is the mind of a person who is biologically female.

It's stereotyping expected behavior based on sex that causes the most harm, followed by patronizing people and enabling their delusions.

It doesn't matter how much of a mincing fruit I might be, with pink as one of my favorite colors, love of kittens and unicorns, loving to read and write fiction, preferring the taste of wine to beer and salad to steak. Doesn't matter that by my nature I am docile and domestic, more nurturing than aggressive. None of this actually makes me a female even if large swaths of my personality are more stereotypically feminine.

When I was ten I identified as an alien cat from a planet I made up. When I was twelve people stopped humoring me and I had to face reality and it hurt like heck, but I grew from the experience.
  rainbowdragon

#link     Posted: 2 years ago

 
I kinda wonder with all the transgender tfs I see on the site though.