I understand people feel powerless and angry with the world right now. but tearing each other apart over the most absurdly petty bullshit is not the way
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[CSA] To make my position clear: sexualizing children in any way is unquestionably wrong. CP/ loli/ cub porn/ etc is unacceptable. Predators use that material to normalize abuse when grooming children online. But an adult sitting there with a coloring book isn’t hurting anyone.
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I 100% don't support cub porn, but in fairness on your last point, I've seen a lot of people SAY "it's used for grooming" as a point, but when I ask for specifics, no one can ever seem to give me concrete studies that show that happening with any great frequency.
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With grooming the thing is it's kind of impossible to give irrefutable proof without exposing deep personal trauma and most victims would rather not expose themselves for the sake of an internet argument
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Okay, I can accept that and sympathize, but at the same time, that isn't *actionable* - "This happens and you just have to take my word for it" is not a good precedent for shunning people from the community. People who draw/buy that stuff aren't doing it for that purpose.
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And to be clear, I get that it's an uncomfortable topic to discuss. I'm a babyfur artist (I don't draw cub porn), and it's hard to talk about because it IS such a contentious thing. I have *visceral* disgust at that type of porn - but I also know something of its consumers.
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when I was 12-13 and started on the internet, on deviantart, a few dudes in their 20s tried to chat me up. Loli content came up in discussion often If you must have someone personally attest that this content can cause real problems out in the world, there you have it
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It didn’t escalate/ result in harm or trauma for me personally, but it’s one tool that they can employ to manipulate kids.
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Which is to say I pretty much completely agree with you - but I also think that even though I don't like cub porn, I think even *that* is more nuanced than any bright line can make it.
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(And it's possible that the *reason* no one can seem to give me any empirical data on grooming is because it's something that hasn't been widely studied - in which case it merits further study rather than hasty conclusions. As a person of science, surely you'd agree with that?)
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