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Recovered from suspension :3    

By blitzdrachin, 2 months ago
Today I've been suspended because a Riolu pic I uploaded years ago. FA wouldn't normally have problems with it, but the 18-19 years old me was stupid enough to tag the same pic as ''cub'' in IB to get more feedback.

Moral of a fable: ̶t̶r̶a̶v̶e̶l̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶h̶i̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶s̶e̶l̶f̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶a̶c̶e̶ Check your tags on your other galleries (specially for old content) and be sure these are correct and doesn't have the ''cub'' word just because yes.
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  luvdiz

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Welcome back and yeah always best to be careful with stuff like that
  afoxnamedbox

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
There's been a couple of jackasses running around lately trawling through galleries of people who upload on multiple sites looking for that. Sometimes they have a point, more often than not they just got a bug up their butt about something. Had a couple of friends get their accounts suspended over the same thing, one for posting a cropped image, the other for posting an image that wasn't cub, but was tagged by users on another site.
  terastas

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
It's become an epidemic after the admins announced that they had become wise to the code words being used by the white nationalists that were adopted after the last time the white nationalists all got kicked off of F.A.

I've been targeted too on more than one occasion. Including by one asshole who ended up getting permanently banned for the exact same thing for which he ran squealing to the admins to try to get me banned.
  rothar

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
So they suspended you because the same picture had a tag they didn't allow (if used on NSFW content) but on a different site?
Never knew they did that, or even that they could.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Basically, yes, so artists have to be careful with their tags on other sites :s
  rothar

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Yeah. I don't really have to worry about cub stuff since that's not my cup of tea. But it worries me that they can take something said elsewhere and suspend you on this site for it.
Might just be limited to the cub thing? Feels like it but you never know when it comes to FA and their rules so it makes you kinda paranoid you might do something on a different site that is later used against you on FA.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
I think is just for stuff wrongly tagged as cub or another thing that isn't allowed on FA.
  leafysnivy

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Sounds weird, what if there are other submissions not on this site thats on IB for example?
Can they suspend you for that? Submissions with cub that aren't on this site?
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Nope, since it's not on this site.
  leafysnivy

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
I wonder if it could if it's related? Like an alternate image? On another site. Not on this but the main one is on this site.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Depends, If you upload a fully SFW cub pic on this site, it is fine no matter how many alts you upload on other sites.
But, if you upload a nsfw pic of chibi characters like pokemon here, and upload the same pic on IB and tag it as cub, you may be a suspension.
  makoto177

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Estoy al pendiente de mis dibujos antiguos, borre todos y ni los volvi a resubir, empeze con nuevo contenido... si algo me encuentran mal por lo menos es algo limpio :v
  pbfan

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Glad you pulled through.
  taufox

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Ah, so that's what it was. Interesting.

Well, I think the policy actually makes sense. Some people who regularly draw cub art really do try to claim that the same art isn't cub when they upload it to FA. I can see why they established that policy, and I understand that they're obligated to enforce it consistently.

I'm glad you've gotten this sorted out. I hope dealing with the administration wasn't too trying.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
They answered kinda fast, and understood my situation.
  taufox

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Good, good.
  beowulf100

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
AAAAAA Te suspendieron por un dibujo viejo? y cual era?
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Un Riolu shiny cubierto de fluidos sospechosos xD. Ya no está en mi galeria, pero se puede encotnrar en e621 por ''blitzdrachin Riolu''
  beowulf100

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
uhm supongo que hay que tener mas cuidado en ahora en adelante con los tags, y eso hablando en general, por que face me bloqueo por un mes por pasar una imagen de derpibooru, creo que por que detecto los tags
  sjru

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Ah por eso era xd
  subwooferfuhr

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Welcome back. That guy likes to also sneak tags onto other people's work on sites that allow users to tag and use those too. Even using sites like e621 and the like where the artist didn't do the upload.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
I just asked a question to the staff related to that, what acions would they take for sites where the artist have no control over the tags like e621.
  subwooferfuhr

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Originally they suspended a few people for that but I think most of them have been unsuspended.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
https://i.imgur.com/YBs2fNl.png They said it shouldn't affect
  harutotetsu

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
This is why I ask the question, if FA is so against cub porn...why let us link to our IB accounts as a site feature?
  shinigamiinochi

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
because just because you have an IB account, it doesn't mean you post cub porn.
  atendedordeboludos

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
por eso hay que tagear lo justo y necesario.
  takiro

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
This is so shitty. People can add tags to other peoples works on sites like Inkbunny or e621. Someone could simply go crazy, tag stuff as cub on e621 and than get the artist banned on FA with that. This is just not right. Especially with Pokemon where an Arcanine, that evolved through a stone right after it was born, could be just as cub as a Riolu.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
It doesn't apply to e621 unless the artist itself tagged it as cub. Luckily, you can see who tagged the pic on e621 before taking action.
  takiro

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Unfortunately someone could create an account with the artists name and then it doesn't work anymore. How do you prove an account is not yours?
And other archive sites aren't that transparent, like AGNPH or VCL.
FA should only apply its policies to FA, not to other websites.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
The artist can still appeal and explain the situation. But yeah, I agree that FA should enforce their rules inside their site only.
  takiro

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Still, a ban or a suspension should not be the result of a forbidden tag you had on someone else's website. In cases like that, the artist should get the benefit of the doubt.
I often see users demanding the banning of artist on FA for cub art they upload on other sites although the artist doesn't uploading anything cub on FA, meaning they want to get cub artist banned from FA for just being cub artists, no matter what they upload to FA. I guess that situations like yours is a result of FA staff slowly giving in to that demand.
I've even seen users that demand that everything cub related should be banned from FA, even SFW works.
I've already seen a lot of artist who paint overly cute characters, that could be mistaken for cubs, moving from FA because they fear the accusations of drawing cub porn, but that's a different story.
  talius

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Just out of curiosity what is IB?
  jayfiregrowlithe

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Inkbunny
  talius

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Ok, thanks for answering. Was worrying about this tag thing.
  zippo

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Is why I dont post here anymore and moved to a less restrictive environment.
  rysyn

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Pretty sure the same just happened to Dacad. Pretty sure was stated pokemon were exempt from this. Someone is obviously going around reporting riolu pics in peoples galleries from a long time ago.
  teko

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
It's happening to a lot of artists who do Pokemon art --- people are reporting them as 'cub artists' and getting them banned. I guess this is what happens when you create an artificially restrictive environment for anthropomorphic artwork.
  helioeccentric~

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Man, that's waaay too invasive, chasing artists up over shit on separate platforms. This kinda shit bothers me a lot, even though it doesn't affect me personally.
What were the staff even trying to prove here? That they'll happily stalk people across the net in the name of some moral agenda?
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
I don't think it's the staff chasing artists, I think that some specific user is searching for old pokemon art over different platforms and reporting them.
  helioeccentric~

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Yeah, but the staff are acting on it. Even though it shouldn't have any effect on one's standing with this website. They should just ignore these dumb reports, and then the reports would stop. If artists keep getting suspended over this then the people filing reports are probably going to do it more, right?
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
yeah :/, Also I would like that they would be more specific with that rule on their Upload Policy, so artists can be more careful.
  mezasalvador

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Recordé que hace tiempo recién cuando me uní a FA, había un tipo que si subía dibujos tipo 'cub' art pornográfico y no había pasado nada en ese entonces, pero las reglas cambiaron a lo largo del tiempo y sí... lo habían suspendido definitivamente porque era claramente que no estaba permitido la pornografía cub porque era básicamente pornografía infantil pero en furry, tomando cuenta de que significa 'cachorro'

Puede que sea algo relacionado con lo que te había pasado, aunque de todos modos hay que estar prevenida e informada.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
La cosa era es que me reportaron un dibujó diciendo que era cub, me suspendieron y me tiraron una ofensa nivel 4 (o sea 1 report mas y chao), pero al final ni era cub, además que el mismo staff me habia dicho que Pokemon no aplica a esa regla y desde ese entonces no han modificado esa regla.
  mezasalvador

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
ah ya veo, entonces no tenía que nada que ver, simplemente hate los que te reportaron
  wolfmanb

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
I'm sorry for asking this, but why did they suspend you?

And how long were you suspended for?
  haruau

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
He said why in the journal, how long? I don’t know.
  wolfmanb

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
I know that.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
It was going to be 1 week of suspension. The reason of the suspension is on the journal.
  wolfmanb

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Wait, I know that FA punishes users for cub "material".

But you're saying that your picture on FA, which wasn't labeled as cub, was labeled cub on an entirely different website and you still got banned for it here?

Did someone report you or something?
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Yup, it seems someoneis mass wrongly reporting stuff that may look like cub, like chibi characters.
  luismipro465

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Staff is becoming more and more stupid & useless.
  argonvile

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
I was suspended yesterday because I had a picture on inkbunny with 20 characters, including nooklings, and a similar picture on FA with 18 characters, and the nooklings omitted. I guess they didn't notice the difference and suspended me
  dracosblackwing

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
So they don't want to even be able to be associated vaguely with cub content. I guess I can see that being the case with things posted here and labeled as such, but doesn't the actual content of the image bear any weight as compared to the tags?

I don't know if I saw the image or not but does the character in it *look* like it's a cub, or does it look adult? I would think that would be much more telling than a tag.

If this can be used as a way to ban someone, then what happens when your art is posted to e621 or some other site, then someone else tags it as a cub image incorrectly? Would they ban you for that too? Seems like that could be abused to get people in trouble if so.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Nope, it looked more like a chibi than a cub, it's just a Riolu, and the same staff told me that Pokemon doesn't apply to the cub rule, but on this case, the same pic had the ''cub'' tag on IB, which caused problems.
About he e621 question, they told me that doesn't apply since the artist doesn't have control over the tags there.
And yeah, someone is abusing of the ticket system here, because lately there is a lot of artist having the same issue I had.
  glomiagui

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
eso significa que puedo subir cubs sin decir que son cubs para pasar piola?
  argonvile

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
hey suspension buddies! i was suspended too.

i had a "cub" picture on IB which wasn't even the same picture. but i guess they didn't notice
  deviantsearching

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
...not all Riolu are underage, FA. Get on with it.
  vinchenzothejackal

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Welcome back! Sorry you went through such a stupid mess. Hope all is well now.
  xsini

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
Hmm, I don't believe that tagging a submission as "X" on an entirely separate site changes how you tag it on FA - or the content of the submission, for that matter.
  blitzdrachin

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
https://i.imgur.com/uo7wh9s.png believe it or not, it happened :/
  janie7

#link     Posted: 2 months ago

 
This fable hit me so many times when I try to clean up my computer files... old pictures, old stories, old musics... oh my DX

I feel like if I living in the past for ever, it make me feel very dizzy.